Bernd 10/08/2021 (Fri) 14:27:15 No.45227 del
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>I'm fairly sure not Gazprom manipulated the EU into a energy crisis.

Gazprom isn't single source of problems, but current gas prices are result from it's work too. At least Gazprom trying to use current environment for NS2 goals.

Of course it is mostly result of EU politics, but there is no big difference in terms of "green" energy from last winter, and last winter had no such high prices. This time there is unexpected rise from nothing, while EU energy politics didn't change.

>A whole industry is getting built on non-fossil basis, they need to sell their shit somewhere, what is better for starter as the big unified inner market of the EU?

On large time scale - yes, it is good that gas prices are rising. But local shocking price rise still is a problem.

>And this will even better since EU will depend less on natural gas Russia is offering, and the EU can stuff its own companies with the monies which went to Russia up until then. They're planning to go full fossil independent in the next decade, which means no need for gas from Russia anymore.

It is optimistic plan, but somewhat unrealistic, especially when nuclear power is also marked "not good" (although still allowed).

Allowed renewables (solar/wind) have problematic reliability. For reliable system they require excessive complex storage systems that overlap average demand multiple times. Otherwise system may collapse in bad weather conditions. This is tremendous amount of money. And most of electronic/battery tech is made in China (and will be), so EU will change one monopoly to another with same results.