>>65704 Metaphysical discussion =/= crackhead rambling. Besides, metaphysics aside, we're clearly both still anti-kike - that's what matters.
>>65718 >your ridiculous notion that we all used to be jews on another earth to cure us I'm not saying that, I'm saying that when we had younger souls we would've had more kikey behaviour. What I'm saying is that people with petty souls now are more likely to be kikey, and when our souls were pettier, we would've had kikier behaviour. You're taking what I'm saying wrong. I'm trying to say kikes have shit souls.
>>65713 >WE WHO WERE NOT BORN JEWS >WE NEVER HAD SPIRITUAL CONNECTION TO THEM Spirit is not a collective thing, the individual has the individual spirit.
>THEIR FATE IS SPIRITUAL DESTRUCTION Definitely for some, I know Jesus' soul was destroyed for arrogance. Physically though, the Jews will eventually go extinct naturally.
>>65745 >I know Jesus' soul was destroyed for arrogance You again. You've said that on this board before. I should've known. The convenient "everybody's souls were kikey" fits in with your similar belief of jews and their Talmud. No one even has to believe in Jesus themselves to know how easily kikes are outed by their hatred of him. Say, 14 minutes and 15 seconds passed between this incredibly subversive post >>65746 and yours >>65745 on this crawling board. You wouldn't admit if you posted that, would you?
>>65745 >Definitely for some, I know Jesus' soul was destroyed for arrogance. explain yourself. interesting that the first man to strongly condemn the teachings of the Pharisees (which were the oral tradition to later be codified (and kike-ishly/lawerly bargained and re-bargained over time to become the written Talmud) would garner such an accusation from yourself.
>>65750 >>65751 >You wouldn't admit if you posted that, would you? >explain yourself I didn't post that actually, you should both settle down. Jesus' spirit wasn't destroyed in his life as Jesus, it was destroyed in future lives where he'd reincarnated as a person with less metaphysical abilities.
Holy crap anon, beaded curtains were the fad during the 60s and early 70s anon, very "groovy" amongst the peaceniks. And think this fad is long outdated, I don't know anyone who installs these anymore. But for those who do, whatever, that's their choice and they have the right to make it as consumers. It all boils down to consumer choice.
>>16308 Beaded curtains make sound when someone passes through them without being obvious that that is their intended purpose. Next time you're in a restaurant or a shop and you see them in an interior doorway, you will understand why they are there.
Pozzed antifa fags dox - they've been gloating over the Charlottesville chaos and harassing family members of Andrew Dodson. Here's they dox; be sure to -not- have fun with them!! It's also rumored that "Emily" is fleeing to Germany.
>>26883 I read his short story collection, "Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman." I felt like none of the stories had a point behind them. I'll give his novels a chance when I can,at the very least he is a good writer.
>>26893 I read a couple Kawabata's novels. I feel like the prose itself is really good and the characters come off as real in it, but maybe Japanese literature doesn't have the overarching point that western literature does? Maybe it just went over my head, but both the Kawabata books I read were like, life's messy but you figure shit out I guess.
If I wanted to make a semi-decent visual novel with RPG elements, are there any good places I could share it or sell it? Making a game no one will play feels top much like masturbation for me to be assed. I wish there were comiket conventions outside Japan so I could at least try to set up a booth and sell my game for $5 when it's done. Steam wants $100 for a shot at the green light which is a ripoff.
There's not much thread creation right now, so here goes.
I've noticed that there's several different personalities, or types, of jews. Keep in mind that I haven't experienced much besides my home state yet (save for vacations), so I'm mainly going to go into the local varieties, these variants may be different depending upon where you live.
--The Status Quo Jew--
These jews typically will be unaware that they are jews. They'll likely call you conspiracy theorist, racist nazi, etc. They are sticklers for the rules, if they notice that you are different/National Socialist/"conspiracy theorist," they will both consciously and unconsciously target you, and they will nitpick your statements to see that anything "out of the norm" will be blown out of proportion, often becoming major hypocrites; someone who they consider "normal" will be able to say things to them that when said by you will make this jew burst out in anger. Thankfully, they tend to be victims of this consumerist society just as much as you are, if not worse.
--The "Woke" Jew--
These jews, unlike the status quo jews, appear to have a problem with society, at least at first glance. They will agree with you when you say that there's an oppressive, secretive elite around. Curiously, however, they never seem to be aware of the fact that Hitler was the good guy. They will typically substitute the word jew for words like elite, the top 1%, globalists (funnily enough a lot of them might even support the concept of globalism, and go with the "evil nationalist whites in government" narrative), etc. Mostly these guys are liberals, but there's a significant portion of conservative "woke" jews.
--The #NotAllJews Jew--
This jew will likely be a part of the aut-kike, but not always, and they will frequently make efforts to appear "red-pilled," some proficiently deceptive and intelligent jews might even convince those less capable of j-dar that they "agree with Hitler." Of course, deep down, they don't. Typically, as the name suggests, they're subversive by claiming to be red-pilled, but also claiming that "not all jews are subversive" as "totally evidenced by themselves le XD." They will also likely shill for some lesser known (at least to your typical aut-kike retard) jew/puppet, people like Putin, Trump, etc. They might also claim that they hate other jews, which obviously is a lie. Brother Nathanel is a perfect example of this subtype.
--The Silver Spoon Jew--
This jew is likely to be a professor, in a high paying job such as big pharma, or at the very least accepted into Harvard (or an equivalent college) with full-payed scholarship(s) handed to them like candy. Pretty much they've had stuff handed to them on a silver platter all their life. Occasionally, you'll find one who'll have had to work hard for their life, though. surprisingly enough, they're competent, or appear that way. They'll typically be raking in the cash. I've noticed that they are susceptible to being freemasons.
That's all I can think of for now. If you want, you can add types that you've noticed, too. I might add some more later if I get a sudden burst of intuition.
>>65739 >By studying Kabbalism with an Orthodox jew. Well they know it from their perspective. >Then don't be Christian if you believe the stories are fairy tales Pretty sure you can't stop me, bro. My faith is in Christ. >what actually doesn't happen with American Christians Biblical literalists almost always seem to be Americans. I'm sure there are others around the world, but per capita, everyone else is more reasonable. >They don't like being contradicted with their own verses Yea, that's the hallmark of an uneducated mind. They really need scholasticism, but there are just bigger underlying issues. >Matthew 12:42 Aye, Solomon was said to be wise. I'm not disputing that. But it doesn't give evidence of his existence. >His association was violently murdering them Yea, my point is that he shouldn't have taken the word of others that it needed doing. >Really? You're doing that now? Yea, i'm not a fan of the American conflicts. >How is it you do not see that what you type continues to implicate you? Did you expect me to support the war in 'Nam or something?
>>65742 >Well they know it from their perspective. And we know the divisiveness of their religion from verses in their Talmud, which they consistently try to play off through their religious excuse to deceive. "Learning" from liars is impossible, as you would believe the lies they tell to make themselves not look bad. >Pretty sure you can't stop me, bro. My faith is in Christ. Not trying to stop you. I'm telling you it's foolish to dismiss your own texts. >Biblical literalists almost always seem to be Americans. I have never said the entire bible is meant to be taken literally. The existence of people named within is, however. Names of OT individuals are not the metaphorical parables of Jesus. As I told you before, American Christians are frequently not literalists. They exist in the opposite direction, that everything is metaphor and nothing should be taken seriously. >scholasticism To harmonize Christianity with ancient Greek philosophy? I'm sure kikes would love that implementation of erastes, that is legal pedophilia the ancient Greeks practiced. >But it doesn't give evidence of his existence. He is mentioned by Jesus. You're a "faith in Christ" type. Jesus speaks of Solomon's existence. Therefore you claim Jesus is a liar. >Yea, i'm not a fan of the American conflicts. No. You do not get to ride the "avoid what was said" rollercoaster. >Did you expect me to support the war in 'Nam or something? Nam was an earlier conflict. Get off your distraction techniques. You said "Like a good goy." That is a very heavy implication against you. Kikes use the terms goy and goyim. Gentiles do not, unless as reference of kikes utilizing the terms. You expressly saying that, I didn't even have to accuse you. You implicated yourself by saying "goy". >Because critical analysis says so. Feel free to try it. "Because whatever I say is critical analysis."
>>65742 >Because it popped up in 1703 as a private lodge, had constitutions *possibly* dating from 1693, and then after the Grand Lodge of London & Westminster (GLE) formed, called itself the Grand York Lodge/Grand Lodge of All England. And none of the records actually mention (((Oliver))). What records? I only have your word. No sources I could dismiss with a wave of my hand in the same vein you do. Only that you have access to "records". >It was just trying to get famous on the coattails of others. The nefarious one you clearly despise with your (((CIA echoes))) was Cromwell associated with the Grand Lodge of York. >Just whomever made that macro, because they didn't do actual research on the topic. Yeah, I didn't make that infographic. So King Charles I of England never tried to arrest five members of Parliament for obstructive behavior? The civil war in England never toppled the Stuart dynasty, nor was King Charles I beheaded. Or was it just influential Rosicrucian Kabbalistic Marrano jews working in tandem with Cromwell that bothers you? >It's impossible he would ever have joined because it went against his core beliefs Covered that. >Gonna need a source on that one. h ttp://w ww.freemasons-freemasonry.com/freemasons_history_germany.html >it doesn't change the fact that Masonic lodges were very Catholic and even a bit Anglican around the horror of Cromwell's reign It actually does. If those lodges were liberalized, which is supported by the Quatuor Coronati Lodge in London dedicated to Masonic research. I'm sure you'll find a reason why their prominence is irrelevant as well.
>>65746 Was it your intention to post that translation with such a subversive jewish kvetching element of deception? To insinuate that it's a "forgery" even though Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu was published in 1864 while the First Zionist Congress held at Basle under Theodore Herzl was in 1897. All any of that proves is that jews have no originality.
>>65664 >>65667 >>65669 >No media unless DVR'd and pre-watched. I find this somewhat overdone, but not in the sense that I disagree with your methods, but more a matter of taste/expediency. There are I believe certain general categories of media that are easily permissable if the corresponding enjoyment and relevancy to the child is high enough, ie even sub-par nature documentaries are ok no matter what, and most John Wayne movies for an older age, etc. Too much direct control of a child's life tends to have unpredictable consequences and this is to be avoided, but of course this truth must also be balanced against the necessity of keeping degeneracy OUT which you identify. >>65672 Yeah, with the amount of degeneracy that is propagated on the screens, monitoring for your family's sake is a good idea. What about with social media though? >It's practically inescapable and the children will inevitably feel disconnected from their friends because of that in the future (unless of course you have a big family). 1) No social media, period. It's worse than useless, it turns people into slaves. No state sponsored intelligence collection complicity for anyone I command, children or otherwise. 2)If you aren't homeschooling, or running your own charter school or private school in a small town, within which there would be a wealth of irl social interaction among children de-facto, making irrelevant (((social-media))) you're already missing a bigger piece of the puzzle...
>>65727 >ie even sub-par nature documentaries are ok no matter what, and most John Wayne movies for an older age, etc. The problem being that the Discovery channel (kike CEO David Zaslav) has produced numerous anti-white propaganda historical alterations. >John Wayne My father is heavily into that guy's films. I've seen the majority of them numerous times. Perhaps for boys, but they would grow bored of them. I did. I have two girls. >Too much direct control of a child's life tends to have unpredictable consequences and this is to be avoided You can't avoid it. When they become hormonal teenagers with the cognitive function of their brains the least developed in their entire lifetimes as myelin (neuron conductivity) is busy being formed, while the pleasure centers of their brains are most developed, that makes for a horny and functionally retarded mix of hormone hostility. Every teenager I have ever met believes they're always right and everyone else is wrong. I have countless stories of white teens I've met whom I have tried to turn around from their interracial stupidity. It always ends badly for them, yet they don't see why. I can only hope my girls understand the importance of not rebelling to that extent when they become absolutely retarded teens. They're intelligent now. I'm dreading the day when they lose that.
>>65727 I also worry about the circumstance where the child discovers something is being hidden from them, which would then lead them to wonder why it was hidden from them. Being sheltered from things only increases feeling of vice which children (or adults with child-like minds) are excited by. I feel like if I saw my child watching degenerate media, I'd ask them why they're watching it until I've dug deep enough to make them question why they would even want to watch something so degenerate in the first place. Perhaps I just have too much faith in the individual, but I think sheltering or censoring only works as a temporary solution most times.
>>65741 >I have tried to turn I think it's more efficient to have them turn themselves through tapping into their subconscious; lots of asking "Why?". I remember with my partner, she was talking about masturbating and I pointed out how I never do it because it's literally playing with your genitalia in order to encourage "ooga booga" good feels and makes a slimy, disgusting mess. She was like: "Oh well I don't want to do it anymore; I don't want you to think of me like that." Wasn't even my intention, I just genuinely think it's disgusting personally. We're both still teenagers too, most of what I do is just shit-talking because I like rambling and come off as angry and domineering; can't help it. I feel kinda bad because she adapts to my lifestyle in order to keep me around (as if it were necessary), though I don't think there's a real ethical problem so long as I'm not abusive.
Life may be all fun and games now in the USA, but as offshoring increases, illegal immigration rises, hard-working Americans die off or dropout due to higher taxes and more regulations, the national debt climbs, there is more terrorism as the result of illegal American wars, the police become more brutal enforcing draconian decrees, the US Ponzi economy and stock markets collapse, cash is banned, Americans are implanted with microchips, and real crises and false flags are used to force Americans to go to the gulags and finally to the gas chambers and ovens, will Americans wish that they had spoken out earlier against the dangers of wars, debt, and tyranny?
>>1393 >My taste could have gone a lot edgier than that but I like the evening dress to show that edge. I like some class for putting it into the spotlight. >It sounds sad as hell indeed. It has its upbeat moments as well,
I don't think your taste is edgy.. at least in a negative connotation of the word. For you the edgyness is not an aesthetic but an expression. You aren't wholly defined by it either.
>>1401 >Especially Rush, which I knew and head marvelous things about them. No wonder, they consider 2112 a masterpiece.
That is one of my favorites as well. it's also ant collectivist in meaning if you can't tell Most people consider there early stuff to be the best with it starting to go downhill somepoint in the mid 80's. Though there recent stuff is considered more true to form. I actually listen to a fair bit beyond what is considered good albums by most and have a few songs I like from that era. There songs became more depressing and reflective rather then wrapped in a fantasy or sci-fi concept albums, philosophy and there rabid individualist themes (not saying some of there early stuff didn't ever touch on those themes). They also did a lot of experimentation in style as well, rather then in complexity. While I don't hate most of there work from that era i can understand why it is off putting to some.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YoE1SrWWyNA [Embed] slightly more popish song with an out of no where rap segment being one of best examples of more mixed reception on experimentation
Welp, of all things I am being interputed mid posting agian. Not sure if I'll have another chance to post today. Maybe someday I'll get to the rest of this. Good luck!
Okay so while I will listen to your links after 2112. I am finding myself a little bit busy as well these days.
As you can see,I have had the tendency to show darkness or even edgyness as an expression for a lot of posts. So, with the /endpone/ mascot having a goth past and ponies like Inky Rose and Moonlight Raven and the bats aesthetic.....let's see where the roots come from.
So,this woman had dark thoughts about her life as well and proto created this movement(with the help of heroin and rape she suffered around 16). She has covered The End (a song from the Doors) with a sinister vibe and I think that no ideas come from nowhere. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7QZu8FrzgpU
Funnily enough,she has lived a lot of things we have talked about for these months and accidentally moved other bands to drive their creativity into that direction. This album cover shows a horse ironically.
I am going to leave this here and may the Golden Gate be with you.
>>1403 >So,this woman had dark thoughts about her life as well and proto created this movement(with the help of heroin and rape she suffered around 16). She has covered The End (a song from the Doors) with a sinister vibe and I think that no ideas come from nowhere.
Interesting and frankly haunting. I listened to several songs including her cover of thhe /end/. Though I wouldn't call it my taste from the surface this feels like a very good mood setter in a way for the /end/ sometimes. I truly am in respect of this. It's darkness shaped out of experience. In a strange way almost feels reserved. I like the tone despite me not being most drawn to sad. Again, I have some sad things I listen to often as a mood setter or an expression of an emotion. Some of ths may become part of that. Though it's entirely possible I was exposed to her via my father it seems totally unfamiliar to me, thanks.
>Funnily enough,she has lived a lot of things we have talked about for these months and accidentally moved other bands to drive their creativity into that direction. This album cover shows a horse ironically.
Almost creepy in a way. Is this another sign of the power of the /end/?
>>1393 >obscure? well, it has sold over 3 million vcopies over the world, 40000 in Spain, certainly not unpopular but not that praised either(4.1 in Pitchfork).
My knowledge on music is very sporadic and often past down from my father. Their is a few bands I know their entire life stories yet others that someone would think I should know and yet I don't know anything about. Heck, I haven't even taken th time to organize what my top bands would be as stupid as that sounds. I'd probably count as one of those extreme causal "sheeple" who only listens to singles if it wasn't for the taste I retained from my dad and what that guided me too.
>>1401 >For now, here you have my chart and influences.
>>1393 >I wouldn´t have told about them if they were edgy teenage material. It goes a little bit further than that.
I know fam. I actually meant it as in I would likly find something that would be good do to having at least some familiarity with isolation. Besides I went to cringier songs before as a mood setter anyway.
FOX News should be required to have 7 hours a day of information that exposes its propaganda. One of those hours should be in Prime time, one at 11:00 PM, one at 6 PM and the rest during the day starting at 7 AM. None should occur between midnight and 7 AM. On weekends It should be 9 hours. There should be a 2 hour segment at 10 AM on Saturday and Sunday morning. An entire department (Call it the Truth Department) should be funded by FOX.
Hannity and similar shows should announce at the begining and 4 more times throughout the show, that he is expressing his opinions and that what he says should not be construed as news.
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>>12718 If two or more people don't want that link up, I can just take it down. It would be up on >>>/os/ since the person running /os/ is also hosting it for someone that goes to both /os/ and /tech/. It's not a true collective effort to say the least, it's just one guy who's curating the links and picked some ideas from a thread that he made on /tech/ so that he could make the claim that it was a collaboration, which if you treat him and the Endwall guy as /tech/ users, then sure, why not. It is not however, the "official end/tech/'s secure computing practices links". If you've got a better list, I might consider putting that up as well if it isn't half assed.
>>12718 >All those exculsions He needs to trim the exculsions way down and explain why each country is chosen. Ohterwise he is making people more insecure using that exclusion list rather than more secure.
If he doesn't understand what he is doing here (simple copy/paste from some random anon) he should remove that information entirely.
>>12721 The link is fine and he does have a disclaimer at the bottom, but that Tor exclusion list needs a heavy revision or be removed.
>>12721 It should stay up, but if you disagree with the contents then debate it in the thread about the list, and that debate process would make it collective / community based. So that's 1 vote for to keep it up + >>12736 .
The tournament starts now with USA - Canada. Leafs have Connor McDavid, because the Oilers suck. 05/04 Games >Group A Russia - France 10.15 AM ET Sweden- Belarus 2.15 PM ET >Group B USA -Canada 10.15 AM ET Germany - Denmark 2.15 PM ET
Nominally confucian, but without the emphasis on public "face". In many ways I've some adopted the surrounding beliefs as well, such as "危篤", to be humble, and to be self-reliant. These would be my virtues I aspire to, a practical but conservative upbringing my parents and grandparents believed in.
Those matter more than divine inspiration. I am not remotely white
"And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet."
I'm pretty sure some people were screming end of the world after hearing about recent crisis in Syria with all the big world powers involved so I figured I might post something about this topic. Actually I wanted to post it earlier because it's popular topic and often weird ideas become popular and are then ascribed to Christianity.
So there's this dude, st. Robert Bellarmine, who wrote a book "Controversies" which touches this subject. From what I understand he basically gathered all info about end times from the Bible and early Christian tradition and compiled it. Unfortunately the book hasn't been translated to polish yet so I hadn't read it, but there's this sermon by a cool priest which is basically a tl;dr of st. Bellarmine's book.
It seems like this sermon is a continuation of another sermon but sadly I couldn't find it on the web.
a tl;dr of what is going to happen before the end off the top of my head: - a great apostasy in the church - society will turn to immorality and baganism - Antichrist will come, he's a literal person, he's not devil himself but he's devil's perfect tool - Antichrist will be Jew, will observe Jewish law and will be received by Jews as the messiah - before Antichrist comes, Jews will rebuild their temple in Jerusalem - Antichrist will do many miracles imitating Jesus and many will follow him, he will declare himself to be god
Today is Pentecost Sunday. Approximately 1985 years ago Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles, giving them many abilities like speaking in tongues which helped kickstart first christian community. It is also day in which Catholic Church has it's 1985 birthday :^) happy birthday, Catholic Church.
>>16589 It's like spoon-feeding information to people. Only some captions are needed (similar to deaf people). >she is afraid of dogs >the cat is afraid of dogs >the dogs seem to be playful >they are hurt by the dogs etc etc
I'm gonna red-white-greenpill you on Hungarian football. It isn't a secret that the football of our country in our days is pretty weak but this wasn't always the case so I thought a glimpse in this could be interesting. It won't be only about the past, but I try to introduce the present as well. Some parts will be kinda memey and not too precise I think. I have some material gathered for this already, I'll try and create new posts in timely fashion. I don't plan it to be too long tho coz I'll never finish it.
This also can be a thread dedicated for sports or kinda /fit/ as we have people who do that kind of activites, and it can be one for outdoors too ofc.
The seed of the sport was planted in the late 19th century, they called it "kicker" (rugdaló), "kickball" or "English kickball" at first, then used the English football expression, then Magyarized to futball but also used the term "ballkicking" (labdarúgás) in parallel and both remained up to this date. It's nickname is foci (pronounced something like fozi and not foki). In the beginning it was all but one sport of many practiced by athletic clubs with mostly members of noble birth, and the footballers excelled and competed in other sports like swimming, boxing or fencing. It wasn't a spectator sport either. The first "training match" was played about two decades after the arrival of football, in 1897, by two teams of the Budapesti Torna Club (BTC), the blues beat the reds by 5-0 in front of an audience of one hundred people. The same teams performed an exhibition game in a small town few months later, then in October the first international match was played by the BTC against the Cricketers, i.e. the Vieanna Cricket and Football Club. Englishmen were very influential and essential in the football world of Austria-Hungary: the BTC sported two gentlemen from the UK, while the Cricketers had 7 or 9(!) such players. The BTC was defeated: 0-2 was the result. Many amateur clubs formed quickly. By 1901 these clubs were all over the country but only the capital had real football, in that year members of 13 clubs - all from Budapest - formed the Magyar Labdarúgó Szövetség (MLSZ = Hungarian Football Federation) and organized the first football tournament ever in the country. They created two leagues, English style: the 1st and 2nd Divisions with 5 and 8 teams. They divided the clubs by their previous results played with other Hungarian and foreign opponents. The two last of the 1st Division could be relegated to the 2nd and the two first of the 2nd Division had the opportunity to rise into the 1st. The clubs played two games with every other club (home and away), they got 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. A new age started.
First pic is the team of Budapest Torna Club (BTC), the second is the Cricketers. The dude with the many medals is Hajós Alfréd, a player of BTC, later referee, international as well, coach of the national football team in 1906. During the 1896 Summer Olympics (the first modern Olympics) he won the 100 and 1200 m freestyle swimming contests.
By this time athletics weren't only the nobles' past time. The new clubs were founded by all kinds of people, public servants, factory workers, university students etc. One of the earliest clubs which featured football in it's profile was created by... Jews. It was the Magyar Testgyakorlók Köre (MTK) and supposedly it had to be founded because antisemitism, they were cast out from every club they wanted into. At least this is the official narrative. I don't think this is true. While back then everyone was antisemite more or less this happened after Jewish emancipation so they could do whatever they liked and there were Jews in other clubs, great example the aforementioned Hajós. And it seems these clubs weren't founded just by groups of acquaintances as it wasn't unique that they shared similar ethnic background (for example, the Ferencvárosi Torna Club - FTC - was created by Germans/Swabians) so I believe that group of particular Jews simply just did the same. Nevertheless MTK became one of the three top clubs (other two: FTC and ÚTE) few years after the league formed, and otherwise Jews played a great role in Hungarian football and sports in general. The club's chairman (from 1905), Brüll Alfréd was especially into these stuff. He was an industrialist with passion for sports. Football, swimming, athletics, wrestling (not the gay theatrical show, but the other gay real one), sailing, he poured much money into them and with the money official titles came with their power. Supposedly he owned the first automobile in the country and he was one of those who created the Hungarian auto-motorsport as well. He was the chairman of MTK and owner of the club. He built their arena from his own money and payed much "pocket-money" for the players and helped them getting jobs. But he (supposedly) was also the chairman of 26 other athletic clubs (not sure how many had football teams among these). At that time he couldn't have been if he didn't finance them as well. One year when the league was reorganized and there was no official season, he initiated the "Brüll Cup" round-robin tournament.
Noteworthy: There were other Jewish teams in Europe. In Austria-Hungary there were Hakoah Vienna, Makkabi Brünn and the Hungarian Vívó és Atlétikai Club (VAC, today: Maccabi VAC) for example.
I'm going to share some news from polish football. There was a match in Poznań today where I live. Two teams: Lech Poznań and Legia Warszawa were playing against each other and I tell you fans hate each other more than anything else. Fans of Legia here are usually escorted by police from the train station to the stadium for their security. Legia scored 2:0 and before end of the match Lech fans went mad, started throwing flares and basically went full bydlo. https://youtube.com/watch?v=DTmSGqVhk_4 [Embed] Match was stopped and Lech was punished with walkover, which results in the hated team winning over the host and getting title of polish champion on the host own stadium. Thankfully I live in a rural area, distant from the stadium, but I expect tomorrow I'll be witnessing results of riots when I go to the city.
>>16593 Haha! Good times! They have quite a good voice. This always makes me wonder how impressive had to be the battle-cries of medieval armies. And how terrifying if some had planned and coordinated shouts in unusual voices.
FTC vs UTE derby from 1999. These two teams - I mentioned here: >>16580 - have the second oldest rivalry in Europe. Their derbies are always very intense. https://youtube.com/watch?v=qJJ18ioZeLg [Embed] Up to 2:30 the footage is coherent, after that some pieces are mixed into some interview.