>>1627
>I am posting Tempest´s one for now but yayponies has all of them and we can share some opinions or make them visible over here...just because.
Yeah why not? Gives us something else to discus and helps increase the post count. Good idea.

>>1642
I have 2 or 3 comics worth to post at some point. For now, this could serve to have an archive for some material to read if we are bored or something.
I will upload the 2nd part whenever it comes. I have The Friends Forever #30 in my folder and that´s what could probably come next.

>>1646
test

Updating this thread with the 2nd part.
It seems that the storytelling has flowed naturally and the next one fortunately, goes with the same pattern.

and this arc is over

so there it goes the backstory or sequel for Tempest after the movie with these two comics.
Far from being a one trick pony, they have announced more appearances so we are going to have more of her (too bad Emily Blunt costs a lot of money to bring her back in the animated medium)

Let´s see how this one goes but the next arc features a curious combination of characters to consider. Comics are really unstable and a roller-coaster of quality but I think this one starts the thread with a good first step.

>>1769
I honestly am hyped for this one. though even if it sucks do to the curious mix it still could be of interest.

>>1815
the dynamic will be fairly interesting. I have read Whitley´s interview and while I always expect every new comic to be shit, he has shown himself to be pretty excited making this arc.

It tells ya somethng that even with Whitley I'm stil pretty hyped. Though it's good to be questioning, especially with him...

>>1830
in theory, it should start around October, so the comics are going to complement the series and serve us for the hiatus. Fingers crossed though...

>>1835
Fingers crossed indeed. Though even if they do mess it up I hope they do it in unique way as opposed to just being stupid OCC with lazy writing and/or some background agenda like they usually do. (not just talking about being slightly SJW, but a writer wanting to prove a point with a character or something)

I am posting the book of Celestia from the Princess Collection, originally published in 2015.
I read it yesterday and it surprisingly fits for the season we are in.

so this is it.
I have personally colored and edited the chapter pages and the introductory one just to add more variety instead of having complete black and white pages all the time.
I do have the link for the books and there a few threads in /mlp/ which contain all of them.

I personally believe that this story makes more sense to read this type of Celestia´s personality than back in 2015 when we expected more mystical stuff.

Enjoy it if you are out there, anon. Praise the sun!

>>1950
>I have personally colored and edited the chapter pages and the introductory one just to add more variety instead of having complete black and white pages all the time.

Cool. Its a simple edit but it adds a nice tounch.

>Enjoy it if you are out there, anon. Praise the sun!
Praise the sun indeed. I've had a busy last few days, so this is a proof of life shitposst. Will be doing full replies later, so keep the bridges crossed!

>>1951
yeah,they do. Just to add a little more variety and I had to cut the screencaps anyway,so editing them a bit didn't cost me much more additional time.

Don't think that I have had much more free time either during these two days(they have been intense in terms of progress),I am having the 2nd exams period for the next two weeks. I usually don't defend myself as brightly here than in June but I have to give it a fair shot everytime.

The bridges have always been crossed and stayed healthy during this period if you ask about them.

And waiting for the full replies...

>>1952
>Don't think that I have had much more free time either during these two days(they have been intense in terms of progress),I am having the 2nd exams period for the next two weeks. I usually don't defend myself as brightly here than in June but I have to give it a fair shot everytime.
Next week I'm thinking I'll be back to normal. Just had a lot of stuff on my plate this one, so I'll be back to keeping them crossed.

>>1962
>Just had a lot of stuff on my plate this one, so I'll be back to keeping them crossed.
Alright perfect, take your time because there is a lot of stuff to reply and catch on. Don´t worry about the bridges despite the /end/ misadventure.

Second pillar takes initiative for once

>>2221
this get is a comic get

>>2223
I see this is a fanservice issue.

>>2227
/end/

>>2228
My verdict is that is too soon to judge. I've seen some confusion from others on this conflicting with the previous minor verse works but I'm not familiar enough with the comic storyline. Them treating the princess' powers once again as an obstacle to a good story over simply making them weaker so we don't have to pretend they're supper strong could be an annoyance if they don't do anything good with the team, but I can't pass judgment at this time.

>>2229
>My verdict is that is too soon to judge.
same here honestly.
>I've seen some confusion from others on this conflicting with the previous minor verse works but I'm not familiar enough with the comic storyline.
that confusion comes because >>2211 >>2212 >>2213 meeting the pony of shadows would mean that they are interacting with another universe. He appeared in Legends of Magic arc and he was supposed to be the alternate version of Stygian.
Basically what it does here is that they use meta context to introduce the problem, it´s used as the excuse that Luna has to rescue her sister, even though that pony of shadows may not exist anymore.
It´s certainly confusing because it follow a meta universe created from IDW and not based on the show, but even Stygian admits that despite introducing the problem with his own dreams, the pony of shadows barely has an influence in the current timeline.

>Them treating the princess' powers once again as an obstacle to a good story over simply making them weaker so we don't have to pretend they're supper strong could be an annoyance if they don't do anything good with the team, but I can't pass judgment at this time.
literally almost the same as the Mane 6 without magic in the finale....and even then, Luna is weaker than Celestia as stated here, so they get rid of them and look for others who help her.

The biggest highlight and I think the purpose of this comic is how exvillains interact and these two surprisingly enough have a good chemistry.

The biggest flaws are what you have commented about and this picture >>2220. Confusing but at the same time funny because Sombra is playing against two Rarities.

>>2228
also thanks for uploading the comic. I knew I had forgotten about something when I turned off the computer and a few minutes after, I saw the cover of this issue uploaded and cursed myself a little bit for not doing it.

>>2276
>It´s certainly confusing because it follow a meta universe created from IDW and not based on the show, but even Stygian admits that despite introducing the problem with his own dreams, the pony of shadows barely has an influence in the current timeline.
The cannon is a bit of a mess isn't it? Not awful but with them at times trying to have a united front it the lore between the comics, show, and books recently (acknowledging the journal of the two sisters in season 7 after contradicting it a season ago). Though this will likely be only felt within IDW cannon, it still is seeing if this will be ignored later, explained away, or if they will be an explanation later on in the comic.

>and this picture >>2220. Confusing but at the same time funny because Sombra is playing against two Rarities.
Actually didn't catch that! Brings me a bit of a chuckle. I'd say that in descending level of likelihood, (A, background gag for fun, (B, they actually forgot, (C they will actually bring multiple Rarities for some fan servicy reason. Though A and B could easily be upgraded to C later on at some point now that I think about it.

>>2277
No problem. Don't stress about that kinda stuff anyway, especially with ll the other stuff going on.

>>2286
>The cannon is a bit of a mess isn't it? Not awful but with them at times trying to have a united front it the lore between the comics, show, and books recently (acknowledging the journal of the two sisters in season 7 after contradicting it a season ago).
yeah, it´s a bit inconsistent because I will always mention this whenever it comes to this franchise/gen. MLP wasn´t supposed nor created with high amounts of lore in mind, the fact that it jumped onto this route over time and try to justify required a lot of effort and projection to make it work somehow, especially the 1000 years time lapse. From season 4 onwards, whatever thing has been introduced has had its lore way more defined than the setup for a children show. A big flaw but the effort at trying to redeem it are welcome to see.

One of the reasons one cannot ask for perfection, the character interactions are what has made it and still dominates it, but lore has come subtly within them. However, the franchise doesn´t introduce it that greatly whenever it explicitly does it in high doses. It has found effective ways scattered through several episodes

>Though this will likely be only felt within IDW cannon, it still is seeing if this will be ignored later, explained away, or if they will be an explanation later on in the comic.
yep. Cannot think much more other than what you said.

>>2287
>Don't stress about that kinda stuff anyway, especially with ll the other stuff going on.
nah, it was a little moment when I thought about it. As soon as I got to sleep, I had forgotten about it nor I cared much other than seeing it posted.

>yeah, it´s a bit inconsistent because I will always mention this whenever it comes to this franchise/gen. MLP wasn´t supposed nor created with high amounts of lore in mind, the fact that it jumped onto this route over time and try to justify required a lot of effort and projection to make it work somehow
Frankly, I'm fine with the way it is over it trying to have a hard continuity. Though I'm not a huge fa of much of what was out currently it does seem like a lot of fiction just started goig crazy with lore, too the poit where I'd even say they put lore first before story.

>One of the reasons one cannot ask for perfection, the character interactions are what has made it and still dominates it, but lore has come subtly within them
This still relates to my point above. This is exactly the way I like lore, with a little mystery and a little subtlety. I was concerned for the end of season 7 that the show was going to be obsessed with answering every question and leaving no stone unturned with giant amounts of fanservice that would grow tiresome. I think I like what they have going with the harmony tree being intelligent and the fact that it wasn't just flat out stated to us it's full intent or history spelled out in that episode. Probably my favorite thing from season 8: implications over explanations.

>>2302
>Though I'm not a huge fa of much of what was out currently it does seem like a lot of fiction just started goig crazy with lore, too the poit where I'd even say they put lore first before story.
lore is fine....in a small doses as far as I am concerned. The fandom overhyped that stuff a lot when MLP was scarce in that part but now, several RPGs would kill for having such defined lore and backstory as this franchise does. Even the mane 6 have overcome more adventures than the typical RPG character, some of them would have died in the middle of the road.

I do like lore for the fanfic stories and I even use them for context or explanations, but lore should not be used as a headline goal. It should lead to character interactions and backstories but the characters always go first. This is why School Raze or To Where and Back Again work so well. They have some stuff behind by introducing new places but what make them so great, are what the protagonists do and say between each other so those introductions don´t feel so intrusive.


>This still relates to my point above. This is exactly the way I like lore, with a little mystery and a little subtlety.
Absolutely. Hence my long explanations in almost every episode for this season.
>I was concerned for the end of season 7 that the show was going to be obsessed with answering every question and leaving no stone unturned with giant amounts of fanservice that would grow tiresome.
A Rockhoof and A Hard Place was the antidote to that concern. It translated all the heavy lore into a slice of life story but putting the pillars as normal ponies with one of them struggling to adapt into the modern life.
About fanservice, unless we talk about Slice of Life and meta episodes, at first, it feels like the show brings fanservice onto the table but it makes it natural somehow. Starswirl, Celestia episodes, the comeback of Trixie, the CMC with their cutie marks....they were introduced as something the fans asked a lot for a while and it feels like they were listening. However, they WORK and mold them in order to feel like a natural step, so you cannot point them out so easily whenever you are a newfag to the show or after they received a good amount of time in the show.
>I think I like what they have going with the harmony tree being intelligent and the fact that it wasn't just flat out stated to us it's full intent or history spelled out in that episode. Probably my favorite thing from season 8: implications over explanations.
Agreed. Maybe FiM is one of those rare shows which has found a perfect balance between going slice of life with that little detail that raises questions around to entertain the audience for a little bit. It could be either censorship, Hasbro´s restrictions, plans for toys, etc; but the show manages to break the limits and even make it more interesting that releasing all the heavy stuff at once.
It could show all of it in a very short period but it doesn´t really need it in the first place but it adds something and builds into a payoff that becomes natural and inherent to what we know after a few episodes as I have explained in my previous lines.

Implications do bring bigger interpretations so the ratings could be more varied depending on the message caught by the viewer´s perception. However, that also makes them so fun to analyze and even appreciate for a second time. It´s mindblowing to see how a show put the message so clearly at the end of each episode and now, some fans struggle a bit to see the intentions from the episodes and put it secretly during the 22 minutes.

A fan in reddit (inb4 going to reddit)said that he didn´t like the show for being so different from the early seasons. It´s the same show and everything looks the same, but the way the pace flows, how the characters don´t act as innocent as they did back in season 1, bringing some real life messages into the magical setting....

FiM has died and reborn several times and it still goes with all the things learned on the road.....with a smile ironically.

>>3216
>lore is fine....in a small doses as far as I am concerned. The fandom overhyped that stuff a lot when MLP was scarce in that part but now, several RPGs would kill for having such defined lore and backstory as this franchise does. Even the mane 6 have overcome more adventures than the typical RPG character, some of them would have died in the middle of the road.
You bet. I remember earlier on fandom works would often barrow from RPGs and other high fantasy a lot for settings and such. That still happens some but now this universe has enough rules or implications at the very least that makes it were it has its own logic and we have a pretty good idea when adding our own stuff made from scratch. From small things like owlbears being brought in to pad out for creatures for minty fresh adventure to the world of MLP being governed by high fantasy rules, such borrowing still happens but it isn't a necessity like it used to.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/04/pony-platforming-project-3-minty-fresh.html
(this game used to be a classic, but it has faded into obscurity.)
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/its-dangerous-business-going-out-your.html
(this would be an example of a lot of the earlier major fics, with it's toe and world building it feels both familiar and alien. Probably too long to read I never fiished it but it is interesting to just look through for a time capsule perspective Not saying you should just liking for reference)

>Agreed. Maybe FiM is one of those rare shows which has found a perfect balance between going slice of life with that little detail that raises questions around to entertain the audience for a little bit. It could be either censorship, Hasbro´s restrictions, plans for toys, etc; but the show manages to break the limits and even make it more interesting that releasing all the heavy stuff at once.
A feel like we got into a logic of playing all the cars at once then making up more cards with a lot of stuff. Adventure Time could be a perfect example of a show where the lore killed everything else, now that I think about it. Though I never was a big AT fan.

> Agreed. Maybe FiM is one of those rare shows which has found a perfect balance between going slice of life with that little detail that raises questions around to entertain the audience for a little bit. It could be either censorship, Hasbro´s restrictions, plans for toys, etc; but the show manages to break the limits and even make it more interesting that releasing all the heavy stuff at once.
Mostly agreement here also.

>A fan in reddit (inb4 going to reddit)said that he didn´t like the show for being so different from the early seasons. It´s the same show and everything looks the same, but the way the pace flows, how the characters don´t act as innocent as they did back in season 1, bringing some real life messages into the magical setting....
I'd actually have to think on how much or in what ways I see the show has changed before I'd be able to give my honest answer on that. (maybe part of some mid hiatus discussion?) ** I actually try to track as many mlp fan sites I can, (though I have fallen behind this year for sure) I sometimes visit there too. So we are both a bt plebeian *

>>2324
>I remember earlier on fandom works would often barrow from RPGs and other high fantasy a lot for settings and such.
yeah, in fact I am checking your 2nd link and the fandom was actually pretty obsessed with war topics, armor, setups for any battle and make it seem more mature by going into that route. There are still generals on /mlp/ about it and they would basically compile every RPG element and making it seem special because it has ponies on it

>now this universe has enough rules or implications at the very least that makes it were it has its own logic and we have a pretty good idea when adding our own stuff made from scratch.
indeed. In fact, you can actually imagine a lot of things and epic, if you wanted with all the canon material considered. It has found its own way and the show could actually use it but it´s not the original spirit we are all looking for, or at least, for the first objective. I liked that Tirek vs Twilight battle scene but having too much action would bore me as hell. Jumping into some random adventure to keep the season a bit interesting like What Lies Beneath or even doing those quests mindlessly like Stranger Than Fanfiction or The End in Friend (2ns part) make the show shine at what it does the best.

>From small things like owlbears being brought in to pad out for creatures for minty fresh adventure to the world of MLP being governed by high fantasy rules, such borrowing still happens but it isn't a necessity like it used to.
MLP still has a fantasy setting just that the morals and circumstances are written in the way it feels close to the real life stuff, especially this season. Just that we are all used to seeing it and barely surprises at anyone because it exposes those places and normalizes them over time. We have bugbears and wild creatures that have been imprisoned in the Tartarus and tons of races to play with for any setting in Equestria. The borrowing might be fun for future ideas. Whenever they add bat ponies to the show, I think the franchise will have mostly sucked up the fanservice. Notice how the fandom has discussed more over the show than the early headcanons over the past years. The headcanons point out or reference the show rules instead of creating their own ones. Not to mention that the fan content you have posted was doomed to be a short term project.
>(this game used to be a classic, but it has faded into obscurity.)
Minuette as well has disappeared from the fandom´s eyes. If she hadn´t appeared in Amending Fences, she would be even less mentioned than this timeline.

>>2324
>(this would be an example of a lot of the earlier major fics, with it's toe and world building it feels both familiar and alien. Probably too long to read I never fiished it but it is interesting to just look through for a time capsule perspective Not saying you should just liking for reference)
It seems that Jetfire has received positive criticism and 19 chapters for a fic written in the golden era, I should learn something from there (yet I know I won´t because I admit that I care more about the fandom state than the content it produces for it for the most part). Some comments are 7 years old and it could possibly fit as time capsule for a bit of nostalgia, worth remembering for some fans out there . Though it makes you wonder what the actual roots of this fandom were. Sure, /mlp/ was one of them but in terms of fics, art, headcanons....so much diversity in content yet you remember a part of it and probably some /mlp/fags barely care about it.

>Adventure Time could be a perfect example of a show where the lore killed everything else, now that I think about it.
most fans say that after season 4, things got into different places though those are just voices I have checked while lurking
>Though I never was a big AT fan.
you tell me. I have only watched MLP because I rejected PKMN because the protagonist was too annoying for my taste to withstand in the long term. Otherwise I would have been stuck to video games and MLP got me in a moment when I was too bored and I had nothing else to do. I have begun to care about the cartoon industry and community because of this show. So, my voice only speaks in an outsider view because I have barely watched cartoons since I was 15 or so.

>I'd actually have to think on how much or in what ways I see the show has changed before I'd be able to give my honest answer on that.
that project would be like doing a end career work. You would have to put some serious dedication. Even if this show was simple, the amount of content to digest and compare is just overwhelming.

> I actually try to track as many mlp fan sites I can, (though I have fallen behind this year for sure) I sometimes visit there too. So we are both a bt plebeian *
though there are not many fan sites out there. /mlp/ is as plebeian as you can get. 8ch has become the contrarian choice along with /mlpol/ (although I haven´t checked about them these days) and /end/ is just a small hole for two plebeians that fail to accomplish one cliche or another because they check the rest of the fan sites. So I suppose that the patrician choice is lurking on Ponychan because of its unpopularity and some early fan MLP chan before /mlp/ was created.
I also share that I have checked less fan sites and only care about the main pillars and set up this one for an uncertain future that has yet to be defined....

>>2333
oh very nice. Wasting the trips without any picture in mind.

Fabulous, darling. Just amazing how I wasted the opportunity for it.

>>2334
It's alright. I've already made worse judgments. Besides, with the attack going on right now we are having other issues anyway! (btw, this is not isolated just to the /end/ either 8chan too has been other attack from what I understand)

>>2332
>yeah, in fact I am checking your 2nd link and the fandom was actually pretty obsessed with war topics, armor, setups for any battle and make it seem more mature by going into that route.
I think it was also driven by the fact that it was a fantasy setting and many anon simply had little to work with, especially for the first season.


>indeed. In fact, you can actually imagine a lot of things and epic, if you wanted with all the canon material considered. It has found its own way and the show could actually use it but it´s not the original spirit we are all looking for, or at least, for the first objective.
I remember those earlier on who wanted ta stay within a more canon portrayal of things often had rules that now seem ridiculous like normal unicorns being almost unable to kill things with their magic (which died durring the use of combat magic in the canterlot wedding) or the most surface tier innocent world. Amazing what you can do now just with hasbro's canon.

> I liked that Tirek vs Twilight battle scene but having too much action would bore me as hell.
For me I love low stakes action mixed in with secondary adventure. Think Canterlot Wedding or when spike got his wings over high tier fanservice. Nice fight but I almost consider it a mistake would have ta make a whole other post on that though to explain myself and it probably be more fitting in the season 8 thread

>Minuette as well has disappeared from the fandom´s eyes. If she hadn´t appeared in Amending Fences, she would be even less mentioned than this timeline.
Yep. So many side characters now some of the originals have lost their once huge fandoms, not that is a bad thing though.

>>2333
>It seems that Jetfire has received positive criticism and 19 chapters for a fic written in the golden era, I should learn something from there (yet I know I won´t because I admit that I care more about the fandom state than the content it produces for it for the most part)
Not a bad thing at all.

>Though it makes you wonder what the actual roots of this fandom were. Sure, /mlp/ was one of them but in terms of fics, art, headcanons....so much diversity in content yet you remember a part of it and probably some /mlp/fags barely care about it.
That is an interesting point to bring up. Though I still hold that th heart of this fandom was shaped by anons from /co/ and /b/ considering who founded the pillars of the fandom. You never know what ya find when looking back. Sometimes I find things that surprise even though I was there.

>I have begun to care about the cartoon industry and community because of this show. So, my voice only speaks in an outsider view because I have barely watched cartoons since I was 15 or so.
Ha ha ha. I barely watched cartoons since my early teens and never really got into any of the other fandoms yet I too also have started to be become interested in the industry and will now lurk some in many /co/ places out of curiosity.

>that project would be like doing a end career work. You would have to put some serious dedication. Even if this show was simple, the amount of content to digest and compare is just overwhelming.
Agreed.

>>2333
>So I suppose that the patrician choice is lurking on Ponychan because of its unpopularity and some early fan MLP chan before /mlp/ was created.
Most patrician choice probably would have been the old FiMchan. Lot of earlier artist hanged out there, though nopony else so it died a long long long time ago in fandom years. I'll honestly have to think before I decide today if /mlp/ is considered plebeian, but that be my pick if you wanted something to be really uppity about being part of an elite club.

>>2335
>with the attack going on right now we are having other issues anyway! (btw, this is not isolated just to the /end/ either 8chan too has been other attack from what I understand)
yeah, not sure if the Russians have something personal with /endchan/ or if it´s the usual walk around from the security intelligence. I was a bit surprised when I noticed that 8chan was affected as well this time around, I guess they want to ruin the alt chans a little bit.
Anyway, there is always an advantage for that and you know what it means.

I could have prevented the digits because I was mostly unaffected with the .org version of the site.

>it was a fantasy setting and many anon simply had little to work with, especially for the first season.
the first season brought the lore but you could barely do anything with it, not to mention that it barely showed episodes that would cut the edge unless you count Party of One or the cockatrice from the Stare Master. So many introductions but too little and too soon to use them. Basically the fandom was starving in those times yet when it hasn´t been hungry, it creates less content than the period when the show didn´t deliver. Time doesn´t always makes justice

>rules that now seem ridiculous like normal unicorns being almost unable to kill things with their magic (which died durring the use of combat magic in the canterlot wedding) or the most surface tier innocent world. Amazing what you can do now just with hasbro's canon.
but time is a funny thing as well. It gets even more hilarious when almost all the villains are unicorns or display magic of any kind.Save maybe Cozy Glow, unicorns have dominated the villains department. Those who said it may laugh at themselves for saying that and eating their own words. Who said that Hasbro wouldn´take those risks? I guess we all underestimated the show capabilities for what it can offer.

>I love low stakes action mixed in with secondary adventure. Think Canterlot Wedding or when spike got his wings over high tier fanservice. Nice fight but I almost consider it a mistake would have ta make a whole other post on that though to explain myself and it probably be more fitting in the season 8 thread
fanservice at once like Slice of Life doesn´t do many favors in general because it either becomes too awkward or out of place. Spike´s growth or A Canterlot Wedding added progression for the show (character development and a new species) so they can be justified with proper arguments. The mistake or that fight....go for the season 8 thread.

>So many side characters now some of the originals have lost their once huge fandoms, not that is a bad thing though.
they have been replaced by secondary characters instead. The Students, the Pie family,movie characters, the princesses, the villains.... moving onto relevant characters that bring their own canon backstory instead of figuring out one. Those days seem so far away...

>You never know what ya find when looking back. Sometimes I find things that surprise even though I was there.
one of the pictures of Celestia got featured this year and it seems like a classic pic from 2011 but it didn´t earn the fame until Derpi brought it into the spotlight. Story revisionism plays a big part whenever this gen ends.

>never really got into any of the other fandoms yet I too also have started to be become interested in the industry and will now lurk some in many /co/ places out of curiosity.
I don´t lurk /co/ with as intensively as you may do but I lurk around every now and then to check a few things out there to see what is going on out there. Also, this is the first actual fandom for me as well despite knowing how the Sonic one works in the early 10s and that I could played a part in the PKMN instead. Lurking around their communities (forums) served me to know how this stuff works on the internet but I never took part on them. Even if I tried to go to another fandom or forums, I cannot escape or forget the influences from this one.

>>2337
>Most patrician choice probably would have been the old FiMchan. Lot of earlier artist hanged out there, though nopony else so it died a long long long time ago in fandom years.
that´s what I meant, the old chans created as a protest because of banning ponies on 4chan in general until the both of /mlp/ happened besides Ponychan. If nobody went there, then it´s no wonder it faded into obscurity that quick. Also the design and interface look really primitive (early 00s), considering that FiMFiction was created before it.

>I'll honestly have to think before I decide today if /mlp/ is considered plebeian, but that be my pick if you wanted something to be really uppity about being part of an elite club.
shame that I never had the chance to join the elite club and point out the rest for going into plebeian routes....oh well, we´ll have the /end/ anyway. It balances the pleb taste a little bit.

/mlp/ is plebeian to my eyes because it holds one of the main roots and columns of this "meme fandom". Not to mention that the anniversary party always gets an article from EQD. In addition, the 4chan Cup also received some attention from outsiders so if it´s not plebeian, I don´t know what it could possibly be qualified with that term.

>>2549
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2018/11/andy-price-teasing-new-mlp-character-on.html
"This may or may not be that character. Over on Instagram, Andy Price shared the image above with the tease "She's Coming... Look to the Stars". That seems to go against the male gender announced at the convention for Cosmos. It could have been a derp at the panel, a late change, or even another character entirely. Whoever it ends up being, that is one creepy eye."

First trans villian confirmed

>>2561
>La Criatura
>Dolores´s pic
3spooky5me

>First trans villian confirmed
yeah,yeah but the most important question,like /mlp/ would say, is:

How do I clop to this?

posting the 2nd part of Nightmare Knights.

Enjoy!

Now, so leaving NSFW for a while, let´s focus a bit on this comic.

Instead of trying to promise action, it basically sets up the group that Whitley wants to build and give it a name of fame:

Nightmare Knights.....with the cover letters when Luna mentions it >>2630. A team full of former villains stepping into a parallel world in which all the canon and non-canon villains are found. Backstory aside and now looking for profit...I guess.

Anyway, it basically compiles previous releases before this arc: Legends of Magic for Stygian and Tempest´s comics. It´s basically a presentation of what Suicide Squad did before but reusing characters that don´t usually take the leading role very often (save Trixie and Luna). Basically, what you would call fanservice and random fun coming from the writer. Their presentations >>2624, >>2627 and >>2629 reminds me of Jojo´s stands or Smash reveal trailers new characters (when funnily enough we already knew them).

What shines the most in this part is showing the routine of former villains and how they keep going on with their lives. Trixie tours with up and, well, questionable downs, Capper sold himself out for the Flim Flam brothers until Luna offers him a quest that would give him a greater fame and Tempest has already found her comfortable residence in the Crystal Empire.

Is it just me or do IDW writers really enjoy writing Tempest? I have yet to see an out of character or misstep coming from her but she doesn´t. She acts like you would expect: looking down at ponies and saying that silly things are stupid >>2630. Down to earth yet that slice of intimidation and cuteness make her even greater.

Capper....well, I thought he cared more about money but giving the middle finger to the Flim Flam brothers sure left them stunned.

About Luna and Stygian, well I have not much to talk about them save that Luna has admitted to embrace her old dark side. So yeah, she´s Nightmare Moon with a different face and that her sister may not have done her homework yet in that aspect.

Someone should draw the entire team with these costumes someday.>>2631

easy things go first so....here we have it, the 3rd part of NK.

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #76
Katie Cook & Andy Price (w) • Andy Price (a & CVR A) • Sara Richard (CVR B) • Diego Jourdan Pereira (1:10 RI CVR)

The search for the missing stars of the Andalusian constellation continues! With Pinkie Pie, Big Mac, Zecora, and the Cutie Mark Crusaders on the case, this expedition’s in the bag! …Right?! Things aren’t always what they seem in this thrilling new adventure featuring your favorite ponies and Equestria’s biggest villain yet—Cosmos!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Follow your favorite fillies and their friends a they seek to unravel the mystery of the missing constellation!
Twists and turns abound in this new story by Pony-favorites Katie Cook and Andy Price!


>Andalusian constellation
Ladies and gentlecolts,we are floating in Spanish space

Part 4 of Nightmare Knights

and that was it for the 4th part of this arc.

the comics have something left to say yet. They are not over,much less when the villain goes full King Kong

Ya'know I ought to sit down and finally read these suckers. I really feel in a mood too draw from secondary canon sources.

>>3551
>I really feel in a mood too draw from secondary canon sources.
nice

also I have just downloaded for the 75th issue. Yes, Cosmos arc has started and we can start whenever one wants but I am feeling like waiting for Nightmare Knights to end properly first, discuss it for a bit and then catch up with the next arc.

The last issue has been finally published.

It´s been a while since last October and so, this arc is ending, folks. Here it is, the 5th part of Nightmare Knights

well, this is it for Nightmare Knights.
5 months for this and it has filled with pony content this last gen 4 hiatus.

Considering that these long arcs for IDW are controversial, this one in comparison and on its, shines by itself. Despite arriving pretty late in the ride, they have managed to deliver some nice entertainment to keep someone engaged until the end.

Not an arc that you would have seen on the show but we all know that this was written for a more specific public this time around. All in all, it´s over.

Any review,comments or thoughts about it are welcome.

>>3663
also, adding some background music for that ending and feel back home after a long adventure like that so (I suppose) it feels more rewarding. Not to mention that Luna has tried and failed to bond the alternate universe with the real one because of one pony. I think that she has experienced in a different way....what her sister felt back then....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fwMYKqBJvMQ [Embed]

>>3664
Nice!
I'll read this as reward for when I get my fic done.

so, what comic is going to be posted next? About a certain student that even writers admitted that was undeveloped...

For those who were looking for more season 8/s9 content, I am leaving this comic here.

I know that it will be easier to discuss about other things, especially when one has to consider that this is supplementary material that only a few will give it a read and forget about it.

This comic isn´t part of the season 10 series from IDW, so this is mostly a plot reserved for Ocellus. She didn´t have any episode focused on her as the center point of the conflict so this is the closest thing that you will get from her so far.

Also, it´s worth mentioning that this comic was drawn by Pencils (Kuusisto). I have been seeing a few pessimistic comments coming out of him behind the process of this comic. I wanted to bring some of his work over here so I feel that this issue (#84) is worth of sharing it in this thread.

So yeah, I am giving a higher profile to this material from my part.

Have a nice time for those who read it.

What does this comic offer us?

Well, maybe not a lot of people have asked for this but from a standpoint of character development and filling some holes out there, it does its job.

This little slice of life story basically gives the spotlight to Ocellus, who hasn´t received a single episode in the show (understandably so because the cast was already big before the students were introduced) and yes, it exposes both the students and the school for them.

As shown in 2,4,6 Great, Ocellus has always wanted to do something else instead of changing forms and scaring in the public eye, leading to some confusions and having some regrets of having only that feature (that´s why she joined into cheerleading and do something different). Here, we deal with that unique aspect again: how disguising into others can become productive.

Ocellus hasn´t shown herself as a nerdy student in the past and here, the midterm presentation becomes from a chill out activity to a stressful task for her, just because in less than 10 minutes, she intended to transform herself into 346 entities. This explains why characters like Celestia, the pillars,Sombra and Chrysalis are shown in this comic: >>5016,>>5022,>>5025 and >>5026.

All of this came from her personal will and she took it to really extreme levels of perfection and that becomes evident when she reaffirms her ideas in front of Silverstream (Page 10):>>5021.

And of course, this leads to a problem that should be reported to Twilight because Ocellus has been sleeping on a few classes because of such ambition.

Now,you would think that Ocellus is the only one that gets some sort of development here (really needed by the way) but Sliverstream and Twilight also do as well.

Silverstream shows a really close dialogue with Ocellus and as soon as she sees her friend, the hug given after not seeing themselves for a while, it could even get some potential of combining these two for more stories. However, the most remarkable aspect of the pink hippogriff is that despite her intense emotions shown at times (getting excited at certain things like Pinkie Pie does), she really shows signs of worry for her friend, watching for her struggles that affect her daily routine. >>5019, >>5020,>>5021 and >>5023.

But this story also gives a chance for Twilight to shine as a mentor. It´s ironic how she had these type of mistakes back in the earlier seasons and now, she is teaching lessons from her own experience >>5024. Not sure if this could have counted as a little step in her path to inherit the throne of the Royal Sisters, but she proves her mastership here. The midterm presentation was more of a relaxed activity rather than a demanding activity, hence Spike reacted astonished for such decision coming from her mouth.

So yeah, the comics don´t get to shine much these days and I haven´t posted ones like the arc of Cosmos or other slice of life stories.

I have been personally uncertain on what comics I should pick and share over here...and this one truly deserved my attention. I think that this one offers an organic story with the students (reminiscent of the slice of life that the fanbase normally sees), the characters are really well drawn here (Toni Kuusisto (Pencils) really kills it) and it gives development to a character that didn´t stand out much on its own to a personal level.

It´s sad to use the comics as a secondary resource in order to justify the traits of characters that didn´t get to shine but it´s what it is, Ocellus simply didn´t get a single episode and this comic reflects a little bit more of her personality.

I could also comment on Pencils comments behind the production of this comic. For now, I am leaving this link here, so you can shape your own conclusions.

https://derpibooru.org/2187060

Also, I am posting the alternate cover for this issue.It´s the least that I can do with this material.

For those who are looking for a full download, here´s the link for the complete pack (both uncompressed and for the 4chan limit):

252384.rar/file">http://www.mediafire.com/file/sgixx1qtjkgyk3e252384.rar/file

>>5030
Will get to this soon. I've been busy prepping for the GCR I've been planing since September. Hopefully I'll get ta post later tonight but if not PoLS.

> I haven´t posted ones like the arc of Cosmos
I'm going to be talking care of this arc.

>>5032
>I've been busy prepping for the GCR. I've been planing since September.

Feeling better Bridgefag? Between the review of the finale (rewatching it again with a variable score) and your project, it´s no wonder that you have been busy making the results visible here. I owe you the replies for it now that you have wrapped it up.It´s highly likely that I reply properly to your thoughts in the next few days even though I can predict those emotions that you have felt for my case. It might not be the enjoyment factor but the inability to see the last goodbye from gen 4 again even if it´s legitimately great.

For now, Proof of Life shitpost.

>Will get to this soon.I'm going to be talking care of this arc.
no need to rush. After 5000 replies, the effort brought from your part is huge and the more I think about it, the more I see as a miracle that /endpone/ keeps going.

>>5038
> I owe you the replies for it now that you have wrapped it up.It´s highly likely that I reply properly to your thoughts in the next few days even though I can predict those emotions that you have felt for my case.
Take your time! In the mean time I'll check out this comic and bring my thoughts on the table.

>Feeling better Bridgefag?
Actually overall I feel pretty good.

>Between the review of the finale (rewatching it again with a variable score) and your project, it´s no wonder that you have been busy making the results visible here.
Yes, been very busy as I've been trying to get several things in place for here.

>>5042
>Actually overall I feel pretty good.
nice to hear that after getting into the finale again. Let´s see if I can have that luck as well.

>been very busy as I've been trying to get several things in place for here.
understandable, it´s not hard to see why.
>Take your time!
alright thanks. Replying to your review might take quite a lot of time even if my posts could be cheap, it´s quite a lot of text to analyze and offer my personal thoughts along with it. One last effort at showing the appreciation for the show feels somewhat overwhelming even if it´s not necessary to do this but from the inside, one knows that rushing it doesn´t make enough justice for what the show has delivered in the end.

>In the mean time I'll check out this comic and bring my thoughts on the table.
cool, I am doing that with the replies that are not about your review, so the big deal comes exclusively focused on those episodes. Even though I have the general idea of those episodes,you have shown yourself helpless at concluding something really solid. This material easily speaks more for the emotions than the rational side (in the good sense though).

For now, I am finishing my session tonight with this post.

>>5028
This comic was pretty good. Not a 10/10 but I like some of the dynamics here. Ocellus finally got something devoted to herself. Though they did hint at her fears with the image of the changeling species (and by extension hers own image) in What Lies Beneath, it never was fully explored. I like it as a driving dynamic here. A good arc (that maybe possible in the comics) would have been to have it a thing to have her slowly overcome. Have it be constantly driving her actions in a way, sometimes subtle, sometimes direct, with her gradually growing confidence and trust in herself and ponies accepting her. It would still be a bit of a Fluttershy clone but give more of a twist.

>>5029
> she really shows signs of worry for her friend, watching for her struggles that affect her daily routine.
It was good to have her take initiative with that. I'm trying to recall if she had any hints of this in the show or has she really been only goofy.

>But this story also gives a chance for Twilight to shine as a mentor. It´s ironic how she had these type of mistakes back in the earlier seasons and now, she is teaching lessons from her own experience
THIS. I would have liked to have seen this somewhat more strongly in the show. We saw hints of it but I think if they had this stronger in season 8 it would've helped with the whole feel of transition to the thrown not feeling to sprung on her. I mean, it's like they tried to put her in that roll since Dolores but Dolores has often helped and consoled Twilight more than the other way since her reformation.

>>5030
>I could also comment on Pencils comments behind the production of this comic. For now, I am leaving this link here, so you can shape your own conclusions.
I would need to compare it to his other work in other comics before I could say it's better or worse than his standard but it looks very good for the standards of FiM comics. I will say that the quality of the ponies is much more consistent for sure but there are perhaps some places where I could see a rushed feel. I have only wondered into pencil's tumblr a few times it's probably been a year as I am not really a big fan of his stuff but I remember seeing blogposts of him mentioning the strungle of meeting deadlines and him working till his hand couldn't write do to the perils of being a freelace artist. Is there is some drama involving him lieing or being lazy? Because I have always taken it pretty sincere and felt sorry for the dude.

>It´s sad to use the comics as a secondary resource in order to justify the traits of characters that didn´t get to shine but it´s what it is, Ocellus simply didn´t get a single episode and this comic reflects a little bit more of her personality.
They really should have given each of them an introductory ep... Oh well.

>ave been personally uncertain on what comics I should pick and share over here.
I'm gonna pic the next one...

>>5073
>This comic was pretty good. Not a 10/10 but I like some of the dynamics
obviously it isn´t certainly a big deal nor a masterpiece that everyone should read. However, out of the ones released that could explore a little bit more these characters that ended up a little bit in the middle on the road, this one fills a few holes and goes back to the formula that we know from the show, without any awkward formulas nor questionable twists for reaching that objective.

>Ocellus finally got something devoted to herself.
and she truly needed that in some form even if very few get to notice this. What could be so special about her that the show has offered? Not much really and this doesn´t only show her dedication and passion but her fear of letting down the public.

>I like it as a driving dynamic here. A good arc (that maybe possible in the comics) would have been to have it a thing to have her slowly overcome.
>It would still be a bit of a Fluttershy clone but give more of a twist.
in fact, she is the closest one that reminds a lot of Fluttershy even though she doesn´t manage to get on that level. They sort of exposed that with What Lies Beneath and 2,4,6 Great at earning confidence but what I complain the most about her is not about her struggles reminding a lot of Fluttershy´s, but the lack of dedicated attention for those struggles. But yeah, I agree a lot with that idea for an arc but she could get a few detours during that development considering that she has 5 friends who are there to support her all the time, not to mention that she could overcome them quicker unless she finds herself truly alone.

>I'm trying to recall if she had any hints of this in the show or has she really been only goofy.
that catches me off guard. I mean, one could foresee this attitude coming out from her in an implied way but when it comes to explicit moments of this kind, I suppose that Student Counsel comes as the closest material that you can get from her.Almost everything else is delivered with the rest of her friends.

>I would have liked to have seen this somewhat more strongly in the show.
>I think if they had this stronger in season 8 it would've helped with the whole feel of transition to the thrown not feeling to sprung on her.
>they tried to put her in that roll since Dolores but Dolores has often helped and consoled Twilight more than the other way since her reformation.
Dolores ends up halfway there between a Twilight´s student and a loyal partner for Twilight´s castle, so she is more like a royal supporter for her plans (that School Daze scene comes to my mind) but she is also learning from her lessons, placing herself in a lower level that Twilight does in terms of knowledge (but not in terms of power).

Anyway, I am pretty sure as well that if there were connection of this style thrown at the show instead of episodes like Non Compete Clause where the students grow a genuine connection with their teachers and even remind of those past events that they experienced in the past, this would have closed the circle of the mane 6 acting like the past and the students coming as the future generations.

In this case, Twilight could have received a few positives if this comic were thrown onto the table and transmitting that feeling of a elder pony, prepared for higher stakes without having to use a plot device of Luna and Celestia calling for their replacement all of a sudden in The Beginning of The End. This would spoil a little bit the premiere but as you say, the transition would feel a lot more natural (especially when you consider how many radical changes this show has faced over time).

This secondary material proves how eclectic the show is and moves onto something else without going further with the established material. It doesn´t only apply to the students but they are the most recent and visible case that one can point out from this gen. The show has been using the 5th or 6th gear when it could have gone a little bit slower even though it carried all the responsibility at establishing the canon material.

>>5074
>I would need to compare it to his other work in other comics before I could say it's better or worse than his standard but it looks very good for the standards of FiM comics.
neither do I have the ability to compare to its earlier work. However, I can compare this to the rest of the comics I have seen over there and the quality is outstanding, especially when you take into account that this issue was rushed and IDW told him to change his plans for drawing this comic instead of the one he was working on.

>I will say that the quality of the ponies is much more consistent for sure but there are perhaps some places where I could see a rushed feel.
eeeyup and he has admitted it several times in the thread in which he posted the backstory of this comic.

>I have only wondered into pencil's tumblr a few times it's probably been a year as I am not really a big fan of his stuff but I remember seeing blogposts of him mentioning the strungle of meeting deadlines and him working till his hand couldn't write do to the perils of being a freelace artist. Is there is some drama involving him lieing or being lazy? Because I have always taken it pretty sincere and felt sorry for the dude.
I do believe that it´s not a matter of being insincere because he has to be quite dedicated for lying and getting things to his side.
I´ve posted this just because it was way more interesting to discuss than shitposting negative reactions towards gen 4.5 (even though its hype has almost vanished surprisingly enough). Besides that, it shows how working on what you actually wish, as soon as the dreams become real,a lot of disappointments could await after reaching it.

I am not really fond about him nor I have followed him enough for obtaining a really valid opinion to make proper judgements that others know better, I leave this here so if anyone who knows him better can illuminate us or give a complete perspective of it. It also serves as an inherent context that gives this comic a little bit of depth for more discussion.

Either way, what I can say here is that Pencils wanted to draw for a comic related to the Pie Sisters (Maud and Marble Pie), characters that Pencils would draw with more passion. It turns out that IDW decides to change the task assigned for him and he feels really disappointed at drawing Ocellus instead. So this comic wasn´t the desirable plan that he would have liked to work on but he still delivers a really nice product.

What it is worrisome as well is that he expresses himself a little bit about not being as appreciated as he would have expected (calling him or the crew lazy at times) and he has to deal with these problems behind the creation of his works, running out of passion or becoming a little bit stale towards MLP mentally speaking.

I cannot do anything about it so I decided to cherish his effort here despite his confronted wishes.

>They really should have given each of them an introductory ep... Oh well.
they didn´t but at least, we get something that doesn´t count all that much but certainly helps for those care or look forward to more content related to them.

>I'm gonna pic the next one...
there are a lot of atrocities or questionable ones out there but still...surprise me.

also, I should also mention this little detail that I didn´t get while reading it for the first time but I find this image really remarkable: >>5025

Ocellus transformed into the four main characters (Dolores, Trixie, Discord and Thorax) that took over the hive, saved the mane 6+ the princesses from Chrysalis and lead the changelings to a new era: To Where and Back Again. Considering that she said in the end that she exposed "her" story, it doesn´t seem strange at all that she studied the past of her species, let alone if she had an actual identity before getting the butterfly body.

Twilight appears there as well and I suppose that´s because she was the one who had approved Spike´s decision at accepting Thorax before the S6´s finale occurred.

>>5083
>misspelled GCR...
Here it is. The GCR has begun! What does GRC mean?
GRAND COMIC REVIEW!

It is my attempt at a small board wide event. Do to circumstances it has been somewhat reduced in scale from my earlier plans but at last after planing since September it is started! I will try to post one of the Cosmos arc every week with a mix of observations, and secondary OC. Why am I doing this? First, because I wanted at the time to revitalize the comic thread though you beat me too it and two, because I wanted to see what one of the arces could offer and how much I could get OC and such from it.

>>5105
The nature of Cosmos' possession of the princesses really interests me a lot more than I thought it would. Twilight Sparkle seems in control at first but says he hears a voice saying "Find the rest" over and over again. I tried to go back and look to see when exactly Cosmos took full control but upon reread I'm a bit confused on the nature of it. Cosmos Luna reply in pic related and Twilight still making an incredibly detailed plan with notes after it seemed like it had switched over to Cosmos being in control almost makes me think there was a bit of them shining through or a bit of a mind merge going on. It's interesting to think about, albeit one that probably wasn't thought out by the writer (at least with what I have currently read more than once). Afterall, pic related was a joke line.

>>5080
> This would spoil a little bit the premiere
Not necessarily. If it had been still done subtly like a few more mentor moments and perhaps a storyline where she disagreed with Celestia in something strongly and you could have had a more reasonable set up why Celestia thought that way. Though better yet they could have tried to just connect to the moments where TS did show leadership and just not have it been in a few days as for a full transition of power as there initial plan.

>and she truly needed that in some form even if very few get to notice this. What could be so special about her that the show has offered? Not much really and this doesn´t only show her dedication and passion but her fear of letting down the public.
If they had introduced this stronger and had more stuff on the changelings than perhaps I would've liked her better maybe the comics will still surprise me.

>>5081
> neither do I have the ability to compare to its earlier work. However, I can compare this to the rest of the comics I have seen over there and the quality is outstanding, especially when you take into account that this issue was rushed and IDW told him to change his plans for drawing this comic instead of the one he was working on.
Indeed. The consistence of his ponies is why above average of these comics.

>I cannot do anything about it so I decided to cherish his effort here despite his confronted wishes.
I say it's good to thrown some positive vibes. Even if you don't like the student 6, there was still more effort than this needed to have and it at least brings a bit to the table with character development.

>there are a lot of atrocities or questionable ones out there but still...surprise me.
Surprise!

>>5082
>Twilight appears there as well and I suppose that´s because she was the one who had approved Spike´s decision at accepting Thorax before the S6´s finale occurred.
It also could be the friendship school (or both).

>>5107
>If it had been still done subtly like a few more mentor moments and perhaps a storyline where she disagreed with Celestia in something strongly and you could have had a more reasonable set up why Celestia thought that way.
I mean yeah, that could work...if it weren´t by the fact that Twilight takes a lot of care before disagreeing with Celestia. The effort wouldn´t consist in the disagreement but setting the proper situation for implementing it.

>Though better yet they could have tried to just connect to the moments where TS did show leadership and just not have it been in a few days as for a full transition of power as there initial plan.
yeah, I think that we share the idea of reinforcing her transition with more arguments to back it up instead of getting a few first minutes of the premiere with that twist from the moment it begins.

>If they had introduced this stronger and had more stuff on the changelings than perhaps I would've liked her better
you, me and basically the fanbase would have found arguments and unique traits about her if that introduction had happened. The opinions could vary but at least, Ocellus wouldn´t have fallen into indifference.

>It also could be the friendship school (or both).
oh...yeah, I didn´t think about it in that way. It´s no wonder that Ocellus would transform into her teacher because of the valuable lessons. You have nailed it here.

>maybe the comics will still surprise me.
>The consistence of his ponies is why above average of these comics.
>it's good to thrown some positive vibes. Even if you don't like the student 6, there was still more effort than this needed to have and it at least brings a bit to the table with character development.
I see that you notice where I was going for with this comic. In terms of writing, it comes close to the feeling that the show brought and no character acts out of character and in terms of art skills, the effort was indeed way too much for what it delivered, because there aren´t any action scenes nor diverse backgrounds or places for this story (and you aren´t the first one I´ve seen that has said this same statement)

I point these out because you´ve got to be careful at picking the comics. It´s not like I´ve got a heavenly selective mind for the task, it´s simply that there is always a huge skepticism towards them because a lot of writers involved in the team have not watched the show and have attempted to their thing (this would explain why some fans see them as official fanfics).
However, a few OC characters really appeal to the eyes because of their designs and when the comics manage to deliver an overall good product, it feels really good to get that jewel and appreciate it as a little treasure for you.

I won´t get tired of giving this warning but it´s how comcis work, either you get rubbish or you get unexpected efforts. As you say, this one shows the students but the effort made for this one cannot be overlooked at all.

And now, I believe that I am going to jump sooner or later to the new lady and...

>Surprise!
Pinkie!What the hell are you doing h...? Oh, it´s actually Surprise.Well, we are going back in time to the 1st gen. I hope that the parties are celebrated like they do in Back to the Future...

>>5145
>haven't thought of surprise in years
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... I'll may put my thoughts later. As with >>5050 I've been more of a lurker.

>>5104
>Here it is. The GCR has begun! What does GRC mean? GRAND COMIC REVIEW!
well, it´s finally revealed. I was wondering what that acronym meant until this post.

>It is my attempt at a small board wide event.
with a little fic and banner alongside this review, opening the arc of her character.

>it has been somewhat reduced in scale from my earlier plans but at last after planing since September it is started!
it´s never too late to do well. Not only we are busy with our lives but also operating the board with other stuff. Now that the show has ended, the comics come to replace that role instead (more or less).

>I will try to post one of the Cosmos arc every week with a mix of observations, and secondary OC.
with additional pictures that are related to her and going deeper into her themes.

>Why am I doing this? First, because I wanted at the time to revitalize the comic thread though you beat me too it
that "revival" I did was because of a reaction towards Pony Life. Instead of discussing that trailer, I wanted to dive into one of the holes that the show staff left, including a bit of meta discussion on top of it.

>I wanted to see what one of the arces could offer and how much I could get OC and such from it.
now, that´s enthusiasm towards the comics. Without further ado, let´s go for it.

>>5105
>the first part in the Cosmos arc, I would say is a alright start.
it´s serviceable. What stands out the most is the comedy but it lacks the interesting dynamics that Cosmos and Discord have personally. It lacks that punch and while the comic attempts to make it seem like a normal episode for the mane 6 and the others (which is respectable because it introduces the lore, slowly building it up as it should and none of the characters seem to act out of character except when they are possessed), it leaves a sour taste in the central point of this setup.

>Most of the problems I have are not with the comic itself but with the the dynamics introduced and or implied
THIS. These pages aren´t badly written at all, I have no problems while reading it but more like its flaw comes from its approach.

>I say for the overall set up. Andalusian constellation backstory, Twilight and the others spiting up to go find all the fallen stars, etc. Was done okay. I didn't find the Mane6 acting out of character.
none of the characters do really. You are pointing out Twilight but I must say that Rainbow Dash, Pinkie and AJ don´t fall short when it comes to comedy or the dynamics we are expected to see from them. The backstory serves as a means to an end for revitalizing Cosmos, serving as well as a plot device for starting this adventure.

>Twilight's enthusiasm for such things covering for any odd behavior and mainly Apple Jack having a hint of suspicion is pretty believable of how I think such an ordeal would play out in the show. In fact it is perhaps better than some canon incidents with impostors if I'm being wholly honest.
one of the biggest strengths of AJ is how supportive and good chemistry she has when she is paired with Twilight and her reaction towards that reveal was pretty natural for her character. As I said before, the writer of this arc has come really close to the traits of the mane 6 so far and if that was carried to the show, we would find these situations among them believable. The only awkward part comes at introducing the royal figures for blaming Discord and that´s because of the implications behind it.

>My favorite parts was when Possessed Twilight and Apple Jack fought, because Earth Ponies need more love and seeing AJ put up a fight was nice over being just magically immobilized or being stupid
ehem* Celestia being knocked out in any fight she was put in *ehem. Now, that kick was very strong and if the lady of chaos has admitted that power, without the chaos that Cosmos has, AJ could have prevented her from going further with her plan.

>>5105
>Discord and Fluttershy accidentally bringing one of the stars to Cosmos.
>some would call it arbitrary but honestly I'd call it pretty cleaver over having some arbitrary rule or strange logic that we have seen the comics and show sometimes resort too. The point is I can fully see Fluttershy wanting to do this and she made some pretty good points (with perhaps Celestia having a good track record with threats being something that I could find issue with in an overall canon context but I still don't know enough of the comic canon)
Celestia does have a good track record if we consider her constant need of the Elements of Harmony, the creatures that were locked in Tartarus and...well, that she´s had like an entire millennia to deal with them (she (or maybe Luna) said in the season 9 premiere that Equestria was found in the most peaceful age that it´s ever been), so...who knows what we don´t know. Call it a plothole or something unexplained that writers didn´t care all that much or we don´t know from the comics.

The cleverness of Fluttershy bringing that star could have been more brilliant if Cosmos made her a greater problem for her plan. What I mean is that she shouldn´t have focused on using chaotic magic to get rid of her but understand why Discord prefers the yellow pony over her. The core point of this arc should rely more on the interactions of these with the added element of Fluttershy interfering there instead of subtly build a relationship that doesn´t expose much depth beyond first contact lines between them. It´s logically made from a writing standpoint...it´s simply that it mistook slice of life material for a pseudo adventure.

>The art was a bit all over the place in quality. It's hard to judge as somewhat sloppy and loose can be a stylistic choice yet sometimes the characters do seem just poorly drawn outright.
after seeing Pencils´style, the rest feels underwhelming in comparison (especially in the second part). The only noteworthy pages in terms of drawing are the ones that end the comic and the Andalusian constellation ones, whose appearances immerse a little bit more the reader. It looks better when one uses the full screen but the thumbnails make it seem poorer and that somewhat discourages a little bit the curiosity for checking out this arc. Believe it or not, I was doubting to post this arc because of this reason alone (at the time).

>I don't think the ponies need to be drawn consistent on model and a sloopy loose style can work but sometimes they feel too wonky.
eeeyup, indeed.

>Would I like about Comsos is that she is intimidating and interesting in some of the implications around her existence and actions, but I have issue with the overall dynamic she sets up
you are summing up why this arc doesn´t beat Nightmare Knights.

>7/10 is my rating.
fair enough. It´s enjoyable to read and save the art, except for the implications, the story is logically built with the main characters spot on (so far).

>>5106
>The nature of Cosmos' possession of the princesses really interests me a lot more than I thought it would.
uhhh,someone out there has a mind control fetish...

>Twilight Sparkle seems in control at first but says he hears a voice saying "Find the rest" over and over again. I tried to go back and look to see when exactly Cosmos took full control but upon reread I'm a bit confused on the nature of it.
I suppose that the abundant reference of that answer comes because of a progressive but a slow build up of that problem. You see this formula constantly in episodes in which every little thing that goes wrong leads to a great disaster (like the finale for example). About its nature, I imply that the voice is Cosmos, starting first with her mind and then taking all over her voice the more Twilight wears the necklace, the more she gets stronger and more capabilities to take over her bodies and then, her actual body. About taking over Luna so soon, I suppose that her levels were enough to conquer her body by that time.

>Cosmos Luna reply in pic related and Twilight still making an incredibly detailed plan with notes after it seemed like it had switched over to Cosmos being in control almost makes me think there was a bit of them shining through or a bit of a mind merge going on.
eeeyup, it´s more like talking to her own self but with different takes at those thoughts she is exposing to Discord, like inner roleplaying for expressing her wish towards Discord. In the end, they are all less than puppets and more like representations of her mind scattered in those stars (and now, characters)

>Afterall, pic related was a joke line.
eeeyup, how can one know about her boredom if no one can hear Cosmos?
I think that the thing gets even more ridiculous when Luna and Twilight are dancing because of the "Always Wanted" line.

>>6384
that black Twilight face though. She must have been influenced by the Pony of Shadows (Stygian is there) and Cadence smiles but at the same time, I get that the impression that she is looking mischievous. Nice ironic reference to the finale, Tempest.

>>6385
>Honestly the one I'm more looking forward to atm.
well, at least they have used Quibble Pants properly for the introduction. I can´t tell if this happens after the finale though (she says: "My most recent imprisonment") or if she is like a recurring villain to use over and over for these stories no matter the context (kind of like the Team Rocket in Pokemon)

And yeah, those are changelings from other worlds (I wonder if the Equestrian reformed ones will appear at some point) so here we have the plot device of this entire arc: desperate reinforcements.

Still we are talking about IDW and while we are going back to the traditional Equestria universe that we all know, I am not trying to get any hype. What should be more interesting to watch will come from the Transformers fans or how /co/ will handle this arc. Their reactions should be priceless to watch.

>>6392
I am trying to not get any hype*.
fixed. Basically, I have no expectations and if there are a few issues worth reading and reviewing out of the bunch, I will be satisfied. Despite delivering an arc like Nightmare Knights, we shouldn´t forget that IDW doesn´t provide quality content all that often and it has had its ups and huge downs. So, we should be really cautious here.

Let´s not forget that they could insert the IDW´s OCs when they didn´t appear in the canonical universe of the show. I am saying this because Discord is using scissors on a drawing of him with Cosmos (perhaps, he´s trying to forget her(?), I don´t know). So, don´t raise your standards of everything making sense in terms of lore or any solid consistency at times.

I HAD this saved to hard drive, in .cbz format (a .zip file with expectations on the contents) converted by hand from ... DA, I think?

I *think* it was wiped when I moved the hard drive to the new computer. I was _so_sure_ ...

But while I go looking for the think I'm looking for, have an unspoken twenty six part youtube series ... in spanish.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EFWI1nCQ7Ss [Embed]

It's what I can find on such short notice.

>>6486
Can't find it. Can't get page 76.
https://www.deviantart.com/arofatamahn/art/FiM-TNtMD-Page-76-It-s-Not-Swearing-375082746
I'm not going to create a DA account for one flipping jpeg.
I think I'd been able to find it on 20pc last time this happened...but of course, e621 either doesn't have the series or it's not in a pool.

>>6487
N/M I found a "backup" way to see the literal image.

>>6486
>>6488
finished 114 of 136 but I need to get my sleep back. I'll post the CBZ tomorrow, then.

I don't have Comical installed so I can't test this, but you should be able to rename this file to .cbz, then read it with any digital comic book reader.

Index on DA is here
https://www.deviantart.com/arofatamahn/journal/Friendship-is-Magic-The-Night-the-Magic-Died-318852697
and the artist also has an FA account, and the full comic seems to be there too. You might consider going to the last two pages (135 & 136) and reading the artist's text, as he has a lot to say about the process of making this, and some good opinions about the show, and shows like it.

>>6493
I will definitely check it out. I may split the show opinions part of his post to the FiM discusion thread though.

>>6489
>>6488
alright, nice job with the backup. It´s perfectly set for reading the whole thing without any problems (for me,at least).

Anyway, do you want a review of the whole thing? The last two pages that you have mentioned? Or just a disinterested generic commentary about it without diving into anything in specific?

About the artist´s text, what a time machine the context is, back when the season 2 finale was about to air! This whole project lasted two entire years...quite substantial for a fan comic of 136 pages. My respects for the commitment (and reading those last two pages beforehand, the artist left a meaningful message along the way)

>>6553
>And how it explained that the sun, and moon, were pony made constructs on a world that would not have allowed ponies to live without them.
which is seen literally at the very beginning by the way.

>It was the understanding of magic itself, that grabbed me
I´ll keep that comment in mind if I have to rely on a point of guaranteed discussion

>I guess just comment on what grabs you. Or what pushes you away.
so a free style review according to my preferences then. Alright. If you are familiar with my posts on the season discussion thread, you can more or less expect a review of that kind. Perhaps I will find myself in muddy waters at first (that applies to anything that is new for me in general) but let´s see how it goes. Then I will reply to your comments related to it (what you have said here in this reply).

>>6553
Alright, I have already read the whole comic and I am still trying to figure out how I should approach it even though there isn´t a specific requirement for it. In the meantime, I have been wondering about one question related to that picture you have posted.

Did you know about /endpone/ before 2017,CB anon? Particularly May 2016.
Mostly because I was revisiting a few old threads last night and I saw that same image posted in this thread right here (the favorite pony one which has AJ in the OP), namely >>152

Perhaps it´s a coincidence but given that so few people know about this place, I wonder if you were one of those original oldfags (for this board) that had come temporarily from 8kun when the servers migrated over here for a short period.

>>6565
Quite likely; I've never seen anyone else post or talk about that, but it's been a favorite for a while.

Also I remember trying to be edgy with that particular post, because being serious didn't seem to get much response and 8kun was coming back on line at times.

>>6567
That post is obviously slightly older than the thread I started in late May '16, but I did mention somewhere that 'writefags untie' was still in the catalog.
>>178

So I've poked my head in here at times, for quite a while yeah.

>>6567
>Quite likely; I've never seen anyone else post or talk about that, but it's been a favorite for a while.

>mfw you are actually one of the original oldfags of the 1st wave for /endpone/
then Bridgefag and I cannot beat you in this regard (the 2nd era started in December 2017). You might not have been the first though because there are posts that were published in January 2016 but you still come from the 1st era (it stopped around the 230-240 posts). So, you have my respects for being committed to an obscure altchan for 4 years.

>Also I remember trying to be edgy with that particular post, because being serious didn't seem to get much response and 8kun was coming back on line at times.
that sentence is one the greatest ironies I have heard, at least, this week.

I mean, that posts hasn´t received any single reply nor any slice of attention until now. In fact, if you scroll down, the posts that were published from 2018 onwards displayed a different dynamic/tone than the one coming from the first ones. What a contrast! Besides...

>>6568
>but I did mention somewhere that 'writefags untie' was still in the catalog. >>178 So I've poked my head in here at times, for quite a while yeah.
you had created a first attempt of your fanfic general. You were trying to write the Conversion Bureau story that year, right? It´s quite funny to see that even your first try is still here.

It feels haunting to look at everything in hindsight, isn´t it?

>>6568
>>6567
by the way, do you happen to know Tournevis? Because I would like to see his face about accidentally creating the main /endpone/ general with a shitpost >>233 (that pic was Fluttershy reaction image, the original idea of Not Much Activity in /Endpone/, NMAiE)

>>6571
>by the way, do you happen to know Tournevis?

No, sorry. I can't even picture the image in my head, although I can almost remember "My mane is so big you could take a nap in it" one but honestly even that is mostly a blank.

<< insert HI ANON candyass face

>>6573
>No, sorry
well, no problem, I had to ask this even if the negative answer was almost guaranteed. It was this image by the way.

>I can almost remember "My mane is so big you could take a nap in it" one but honestly even that is mostly a blank.
Endchan messed it up big time back in spring 2018 (I think that it was in April) and one of the volunteers (or maybe Odilitime himself) reported that he ran into the image problem with the change of servers (deleting a few posts that were published the previous days before that change) and Endchan´s staff washed their hands of this issue by saying to its users how to get the images back. Except for a handful of pictures, all /endpone/ pictures basically vanished and we had to restart almost from scratch despite setting up a few threads by the time it occurred.

The relevant threads were saved by posting them again in the same thread(mostly thanks to the thumbnail and sharing the same size that you would find the original picture on any booru) but the rest...you wouldn´t have a clue if the thumbnail name differed

><< insert HI ANON candyass face
ironically enough, the HI Anon image started the 2nd era of this board in the Tournevis thread. I wonder if that user who posted that Celestia version of that face is going to come back someday...

Well, I´ve got plenty of time to review this during this afternoon so, I´ll attempt to depict my thoughts about this comic. Here it is:

Friendship is Magic--The Night the Magic Died ( by ArofaTamahn, 2012-2014)

Where do I start with this one? Overall, I´ve liked it. I could leave it at that and close the thread right here. However, let´s dig a little bit deeper of certain moments that I have decided to write down.

For this comic, we have to keep in mind that there are 3 original characters inserted for this story: Arofa Nahmat (Nat as a disguised pony), Garret and Gralo (hidden inside the griffon).

What happens here is that both the griffon and the wolf correct perspectives about a problem those two. Nahmat (the worlf) is a bounty hunter who is going after Gralo yet she blames it all to the griffon. The griffon however, because he displayed more proper manners in order to cause a good impression, he managed to convince about his studies in the university (abandoning them but Garret was registered in order to leave a mark). He follows a route of self learning and in one his spells, the results ended up being nasty and there you have the plot device.

He manages to convince both the princesses and the mane 6, he warns about the presence of Nahmat before she shows up and apparently, she acts like the villain (or at least, presented as someone suspicious). These manners of pushing around the mane 6 and speaking with so much force to the princesses inside their minds, acting like CB anon said >>6493, not in a clever way but more like a jerk. These little details turn out to be a handicap for her, losing the battle of persuading the ponies that she was right about her version. She was, thought she omitted certain points she hadn´t been aware until the last quarter of this comic.

Turns out that she had held a few fears in the way she acted (especially towards Fluttershy because of the stare) and the only way, she had changed her point was with the introduced couple from A Canterlot Wedding.

Now, here it comes the part that unfortunately didn´t happen in the show and I wish we got more material about these two characters. For once, Cadence and Shining Armor manage to get some spotlight for themselves. These are the moments that the fan can warm up with them beyond implying that they were introduced for selling toys. I mean, they´ve got their episodes after all but always with a secondary role.

So, both Cadence and Shining Armor are the medium and the ones who manage to give Nahmat a chance, especially Cadence because she hadn´t witnessed the jerky moment. So in this moment, one of the messages coming from this whole comic is that ponies are so full of magic that they don´t even realize, hence they use it in a more inconsequential way and they don´t even notice that said excess made them numb at noticing how much quantity the land of Equestria has.

Then, the magic that cannot be corrupted (by Gralo after revealing himself) is located in the place that ponies feared for so long during the first seasons: the Everfree Forest. That scary mysterious place has been infamous because ponies have been adapting so much their own ecosystem that for them, facing a natural forest looks really menacing for them. In the show, throughout the entire gen, you can see that the more it advances, the more the characters go through it to the Castle of the Two Sisters without being a big deal for them, it slowly becomes a normal forest to cross for them (from season 4 onwards)

So, Nahmat serves as the main character to illustrate to the ponies how Earth´s physics and nature work, teaching both the couple and the two royal sisters the power of Insight. In her planet, as magic is more scarce, Nahmat is capable to see it but ponies don´t because of the overwhelming excess of magic (I digress a little bit here but I suppose that CB anon meant with Earth Ponies having magic, like AJ kicking the apple trees and thus, all the apples fall at once without doing anything else).

It clearly shows that this comic was written in the early era because of the references of A Canterlot Wedding, The Best Night Ever, the opener (FiM) and the Return of Harmony (among other integrated elements like the stare from the Stare Master, or Pinkie´s sense in Feeling Pinkie Keen)