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>Those gurus despite having said experiences, insist on the preconceived idea that this should not be.
I don't think they say that. Or maybe you mean different people than the ones I know. Of course the current reality will still be experienced, but it will be perceived from a more zoomed out, non personal perspective. As if you were watching yourself from a bird's view

>I have the opposite idea that one should not only maximize the access to higher experiences, one should maximize the experience of this reality as well.
I don't disagree with this

>The "monk life" is precluded on the idea that sacrificing this existence will grant you more higher experiences in life or after it, which is simply not true. And actually contrary to the truth. You are not even giving yourself more time to practice self-knowledge, you are wasting time and effort in controlling something that requires no control.
I am not in favor of a monk life or moving away from civilization to find transcendence in a cave or whatever. The transcendence can be found while in civilization as well. And there is no control involved in it

I like both Gurdjieff and J. Krishnamurti's approaches. Both of what they talk about requires no control or no monk type of life