>>6349
>I don't know where you draw of line at "human value" because bullets wouldn't exist without humans either so you can only start "valuing" things if you start from a level where humans did not "manufacture" anything yet. When do things start to have "value"?
Let's move this out of /blog/ because this is a discussion now. Ranting is ok for blogging but if I start replying it isn't a blog anymore, then we start talking to each other and not shouting at the wall as intended.

It's what I said: human value is often overrated by a lot. Most people produce only fertilizer in their lives at most. The most probable lifetime production of a common human today is a huge pile of trash that nature can't even break down. That is the physical karma they leave, which remain when they are re-incarnated next time. Then they wonder why they live in a world with no resources and no good culture.

If they don't cultivate themselves spiritually, they will just produce waste, things they have no way to regenerate, and that is why they later reincarnate as rocks, and get mined. If you were able to make a common person at all productive outside of producing literal shit for bacteria to live in, maybe their only use is to take a bullet in a war for a better society? It's that low, that may be the only thing one person can do, because they have no productive ability at all. Producing food for people who don't cultivate themselves or achieve anything at all which can lead to any kind of awakening or ascension, that is also a waste of natural resources.

So I mean it in a real, literal hard calculation way: if you send 100 000 soldiers into battle and they die, but they somehow contributed to a better society through that collective effort, then maybe that was the maximum value they had when pushed to the limit. From a spiritual awakening perspective.