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[Make a Post]Or it's a screen for the operators activities. Adding more users probably isn't that expensive and creates more noise
They have extra services for regular donators like domain linking and aliasing.
>>1295
yeah, and goyscord has nitro, that doesn't mean that they don't consume all the data you give it, faggot
Alright, then point to where Disroot has gone wrong. Or better yet, provide a better alternative. I can point to Matomo or the white nationalist account shut down in May 2018 in the case of Protonmail, so what can you point to in the case of Disroot?
Or are you just going to whine and complain endlessly, screaming in all caps at people who call you out for being a defeatist faggot? Put up or shut up. Speak up and take the lead or shut the hell up and allow the productive anons to keep trying to be productive.
>>1277
What you're saying makes sense, except Disroot stores all emails in plaintext. There's no encryption on their side to speak of.
The only truly private service we have is Posteo. Surprise surprise, it's paid. That's how decent services work in the real world. You kids are too used to everything getting handed to you for free, even though that was a product of predatory web practices that envisioned you as the product.
Posteo actually has the plausible deniability stuff OP talks about, in addition to retaining a bunch of lawyers in order to fight governments (at least long enough for the logs to clear). They've also been around for a long time.
>>1343
>Hurr its in plaintext
Don't trust the service to do encryption for you m8. You cannot guarantee that their encryption is performed at all, or if it is up to standard, or if government snoops on the plaintext.
The service can only be trusted to not keep logs of your activity, and that's out of necessity not preference - there's no way to force the service to delete logs. Ultimately you, the user, must be responsible for encrypting all your data and providing as little metadata as is feasible.
>can't create an account without enabling niggerscript
Any email providers that don't require JS?
>>1442
I think cockmail doesn't require javashit for signup, but their webmail does. No problem since you can use an IMAP client with ease.
I use dismail.de. They offer XMPP and mail (you have to request that the mail is enabled through XMPP). Hosted in Germany, powered by donations, everything is encrypted, servers run OpenBSD, registration doesn't require JS (you can register through an XMPP client) and they run off donations. Of course, encrypt everything, or better yet, don't do risqué shit on the internet.
Email isn't secure you fucktard. It by design gets routed all over the place and has bloated ass MIME and even HTML/JS/CSS and such bullshit. The most secure way to do email with common tools is to manually PGP-encrypt your message and then paste it into an email.
> The only solution then, is Plausible Deniability. A service that operates on a zero information policy.
JUST
USE
PGP
FAGGOT
I literally use end-to-end crypto with cock.li for sensitive info with my landlord. There's not even any excuse for you faggots to do anything less secure.
>even if I'm a Nazi
And you jaywalk too?
The most secure email service is Autistici/Inventati, plus Tor and PGP. The R*Plan was so ahead of its time, technologically.
That said, the protocols of e-mail are insecure by design. It's more than decent enough to use for buying drugs or whatever, but most of us here want philosophical freedom, and email won't give that
>disrood
>riseub
>audisdigi
no dhangs. i don'd egbegd serbiges run by hard lefd agdibisd groubs do sdill sdand by dheir bringibles when dhey find oud i'm nod of dheir dribe.
I still can't find any tor based secure mail so I am bumping up this thread.
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>What is the most secure email, and why is it ${service}?
Surely if you want to know something is actually secure, you must host it yourself, where you are in control.
https://disroot.org/en/tos
>You may not engage in the following activities through the services provided by disroot.org:
>...
>2. Contributing to the discrimination, harassment or harm against any individual or group. That includes the spread of hate and bigotry through racism, ethnophobia, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of discriminatory behavior.
Elude is best.
Paranoid sounds nice as well, but you ironically need an email to get an invite from them lmao.
Paranoid sounds nice as well, but you ironically need an email to get an invite from them lmao.
Disroot are leftists with a predisposition towards doxing or ddosing people/orgs they don't like (ask Ordo Evangelistarum).
>>5336
Found this in Elude's privacy policy:
>We will not read, search, or process any of your incoming or outgoing mail other than to protect you from viruses and spam
It's pretty snkeakily hidden, I didn't notice it untill like my 3rd read. It looks like Eludemail reads and proceses all your mail, but I don't know how vague/specific "protect you from viruses and spam" is.
Anyone know anything about bote? It looks promising.
https://i2pbote.xyz/
Found this in Elude's privacy policy:
>We will not read, search, or process any of your incoming or outgoing mail other than to protect you from viruses and spam
It's pretty snkeakily hidden, I didn't notice it untill like my 3rd read. It looks like Eludemail reads and proceses all your mail, but I don't know how vague/specific "protect you from viruses and spam" is.
Anyone know anything about bote? It looks promising.
https://i2pbote.xyz/
>>6567
Secure email is an oxymoron anyways. I use GPG if I want that, or a different protocol to exchange messages.
Secure email is an oxymoron anyways. I use GPG if I want that, or a different protocol to exchange messages.
>>6567
>This is completely insecure. Don't trust anything daniel puts out.
why not? because he's a pedo and got his servers hacked by police?
>This is completely insecure. Don't trust anything daniel puts out.
why not? because he's a pedo and got his servers hacked by police?
Google his full name. You will instantly see the arrest record. He is clearly running a honeypot. All of his services are honeypots.
>>6587
Google blocks me. I tried Startpage and DDG instead with his name and even with "arrest record" but nothing like that comes up. All I found was https://www.darkowl.com/blog/2018/daniel-of-the-darknet-goes-dark which talks about how antipedos are running his chat site.
Google blocks me. I tried Startpage and DDG instead with his name and even with "arrest record" but nothing like that comes up. All I found was https://www.darkowl.com/blog/2018/daniel-of-the-darknet-goes-dark which talks about how antipedos are running his chat site.
>ELUDE...onion
LMAO WTF ARE YOU NIGGERZ DOING? WHY DO YOU NEED A """PRIVATE""" EMAIL ON TOR LIKE WTF MAN OMG JUST USE PGP OR SOME SHIT
LMAO WTF ARE YOU NIGGERZ DOING? WHY DO YOU NEED A """PRIVATE""" EMAIL ON TOR LIKE WTF MAN OMG JUST USE PGP OR SOME SHIT
>What is the most secure email
your own. all you need is postfix and mutt. if you want to send email you'll have to shell a few bux for a vps (your home ip is blocked)
your own. all you need is postfix and mutt. if you want to send email you'll have to shell a few bux for a vps (your home ip is blocked)
I believe Riseup is as good as Disroot when it comes to privacy, but you do need an invite to join though. (I can provide one if somebody wants one, just make a disposable email at cock.li)
but both Riseup and Disroot are extremely left leaning and is used by Antifa.
Another alternative is cock.li which is also great. (My main email adress)
All 3 can be accessed through tor.
but both Riseup and Disroot are extremely left leaning and is used by Antifa.
Another alternative is cock.li which is also great. (My main email adress)
All 3 can be accessed through tor.
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>>6712
>left leaning
Why does it matter when it comes to email where you will not be proving your identity at all and using pgp all the time? Like, why the fuck should I care whether the site is run by some nazi scum or by antifa scum?
>left leaning
Why does it matter when it comes to email where you will not be proving your identity at all and using pgp all the time? Like, why the fuck should I care whether the site is run by some nazi scum or by antifa scum?
>>6742
Because a right leaning faggot won't delete your account on sight once they figure out the opinions you hold.
Because a right leaning faggot won't delete your account on sight once they figure out the opinions you hold.
t. neutral "enlightened"
Every time I try to sign up for Disroot they want me to write a 150 word essay about my dick.
>>6781
everyone's a faggot, anon.
everyone's a faggot, anon.
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>Here we are defining secure as "even if I'm a scary nigger-hating nazi, the email host doesn't know and if the feds come knocking all they have to turn over is a bunch of encrypted data with no password."
KYS you fucking retarded faggot. This is true for any email as long as you use end to end crypto.
If you are not using end to end crypto, it means you're talking to some fucking retard on gmail, who is leaking all his data everywhere anyway.
And if you're using one of those meme websites that do crypto for you, it's strictly less secure than using your own software.
I don't care if this thread is a year old. As long as I see this moronic shit I will post here telling you to fuck off.
KYS you fucking retarded faggot. This is true for any email as long as you use end to end crypto.
If you are not using end to end crypto, it means you're talking to some fucking retard on gmail, who is leaking all his data everywhere anyway.
And if you're using one of those meme websites that do crypto for you, it's strictly less secure than using your own software.
I don't care if this thread is a year old. As long as I see this moronic shit I will post here telling you to fuck off.
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>>6420
I don't use it (i2pbote) but apparently alot do. They were talking about it in i2prc some.
>>6658
Then whoever you send to has your IP and everything else in the mail headers. If the person needs to get back to you, use USENET alt.anonymous.messages (if I remember the group right) w/mixmaster and PGP. No one knows anyone's real name/IP and the whole thing is encrypted. No timing attacks either. Or check out i2pbote.
I don't use it (i2pbote) but apparently alot do. They were talking about it in i2prc some.
>>6658
Then whoever you send to has your IP and everything else in the mail headers. If the person needs to get back to you, use USENET alt.anonymous.messages (if I remember the group right) w/mixmaster and PGP. No one knows anyone's real name/IP and the whole thing is encrypted. No timing attacks either. Or check out i2pbote.
>>7241
>i2pbote or USENET w/mixmaster
I'm a noobfag so please bear with me.
Isn't the i2p the best choice at the moment for simple correspondence? It was designed with anonymity in mind and many different users and types of cover traffic exist within i2p providing much greater obfuscation. I'm fairly skeptical of USENET topography and design even with a remailer. I would rather have my correspondents on i2p and wait for out-proxy development.
Does anyone know the status on message padding thus far?
>i2pbote or USENET w/mixmaster
I'm a noobfag so please bear with me.
Isn't the i2p the best choice at the moment for simple correspondence? It was designed with anonymity in mind and many different users and types of cover traffic exist within i2p providing much greater obfuscation. I'm fairly skeptical of USENET topography and design even with a remailer. I would rather have my correspondents on i2p and wait for out-proxy development.
Does anyone know the status on message padding thus far?
>>7241
>use USENET alt.anonymous.messages (if I remember the group right) w/mixmaster and PGP.
Is there any native linux client and a proper way to get this working under Tor?
Quicksilver runs under wine, but you have to run wine in the first place. Also you have to read those usenet messages through Tor, and frankly I don't know whether there are any free nntp servers left.
>use USENET alt.anonymous.messages (if I remember the group right) w/mixmaster and PGP.
Is there any native linux client and a proper way to get this working under Tor?
Quicksilver runs under wine, but you have to run wine in the first place. Also you have to read those usenet messages through Tor, and frankly I don't know whether there are any free nntp servers left.
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What is the most secure email, and why is it Disroot?
Here we are defining secure as "even if I'm a scary nigger-hating nazi, the email host doesn't know and if the feds come knocking all they have to turn over is a bunch of encrypted data with no password."
It's inevitable that all email is insecure. A good example is protonmail using its Switzerland location as a marketing gimmick. In truth, Switzerland has a legal agreement with the US and will gladly hand over data if they're "asked." Services hiding behind "court orders" are equally worthless, since it's trivial for governments to draft up a quick court order. And these are just some of the many issues.
The only solution then, is Plausible Deniability. A service that operates on a zero information policy. When the feds come knocking, all they'll have are worthless encrypted files. This forces the feds to compromise the user's end, and if you're playing light on your feet rather than trying to be the big macho hackerman you'll be able to avoid them for the most part.
Along these lines, I propose Disroot. Discuss and disagree.
https://disroot.org/en/