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# The US Is Definitely "Meddling" In The Venezuelan Election

Authored by Roger Harris via ConsortiumNews.com,

As Venezuelans go to the polls today, the U.S. is working to disrupt the re-election of Nicolas Maduro and rollback left-wing governments in the region...

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro is the frontrunner in the presidential elections that will take place today. If past pronouncements and practice by the United States are any indication, every effort will be made to oust an avowed socialist from the the U.S. “backyard.”

This week, the leftist president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, tweeted:

> “Before the elections they (U.S. and allies) will carry out violent actions supported by the media and after the elections they will try a military invasion with Armed Forces from neighboring countries.”

U.S. antipathy towards the Venezuelan government started with the election of Hugo Chávez in 1998, followed by a brief and unsuccessful U.S.-backed coup in 2002. Chávez made the magnanimous, but politically imprudent, gesture of pardoning the golpistas, who are still trying to achieve by extra-parliamentary means what they have been unable to realize democratically. After Chávez died in 2013, the Venezuelans elected Maduro to carry on what has become known as the Bolivarian Revolution.

### The Phantom Menace

In 2015 then U.S. President Barack Obama declared “a national emergency” because of a supposed Venezuelan threat to the U.S. The U.S. has military bases to the west of Venezuela in Colombia and to the east in the Dutch colonial islands. The Fourth Fleet patrols Venezuela’s Caribbean coast. Yet somehow in the twisted logic of imperialism, the phantom of Venezuela posed a menacing, “extraordinary threat” to the U.S.

Each year Obama renewed and deepened sanctions against Venezuela under the National Emergencies Act. Taking no chances that his successor might not be sufficiently hostile to Venezuela, Obama prematurely renewed the sanctions his last year in office even though the sanctions would not have expired until two months into Trump’s tenure.

The fear was that presumptive U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson might try to normalize U.S. -Venezuelan relations to negotiate an oil deal between Venezuela and his former employer Exxon. As it turns out, the Democrats need not have feared Trump going soft on regime change.

Last August, Donald Trump publicly raised the “military option” to overthrow Venezuela’s democratically-elected government. Then David Smilde of the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA) counseled for regime change, not by military means, but by “deepening the current sanctions” to “save Venezuela.” The somewhat liberal, inside-the-beltway NGO argued against a direct military invasion because the Venezuelan military would resist, not because such an act is the gravest violation of international law.

Maduro: Phony threat to the U.S.

Meanwhile the sanctions have taken a punishing toll on the Venezuelan people, even causing death. Sanctions are designed, in Richard Nixon’s blood-curdling words, to “make the economy scream” so that the people will abandon their democratically elected government for one vetted by the U.S.

In January, Trump’s first State of the Union address called for regime change of leftist governments in Latin America, boasting, “My government has imposed harsh sanctions on the communist and socialist dictatorships of Cuba and Venezuela.” Hearing these stirring words, both Democrats and Republicans burst out in thunderous applause.

“Dictatorships,” as the term is wielded by the U.S. government and mainstream media, should be understood as countries that try to govern in the interests of their own peoples rather than privileging the dictates of the U.S. State Department and the prerogatives of international capital.

### Attack of the Clones

In addition to summoning Venezuela’s sycophantic domestic opposition, who support sanctions against their own people, the U.S. has gone on the offensive using the regional Lima Group to destabilize Venezuela. The group was established last August in Lima, the capital of Peru, as a block to oppose Venezuela.

The eighth Summit of the Americas was held in Lima in April under the lofty slogan of “democratic governance against corruption.” Unfortunately for the imperialists, the president of the host country was unable to greet the other U.S. clones. A few days earlier he had been forced to resign because of corruption. Venezuelan President Maduro was barred from attending.

Along with Peru and the U.S. ’ ever faithful junior partner Canada, other members of the Lima Group are:

- Mexico, a prime participant of the U.S. -sponsored War on Drugs, is plagued with drug cartel violence. The frontrunner for the July presidential election is left-of-center Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO), who is widely believed to have won the last two elections only to have them stolen from him.

- Panama’s government is a direct descendent of the one installed on a U.S. warship when the U.S. invaded Panama in 1989. Recall the triggering incident that unleashed U.S. bombs and 26,000 troops into Panama against a defense force of 3,000: a GI in civilian clothes was fatally shot running a military checkpoint and another GI and his wife were assaulted. What similarly grave affront to the global hegemon might precipitate a comparable military response for Venezuela? Panama imposed sanctions against Venezuela in a spat in April, accusing Venezuela of money laundering. Panama is a regional money laundering center for the illicit drug trade (some alleged through aTrump-owned hotel).

- Argentina elected Mauricio Macri president in 2015. He immediately sold the country out to the vulture funds and the IMF while imposing severe austerity measures on working people. The economy has tanked, reversing the gains of the previous left-leaning presidencies of Néstor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández. Military and diplomatic deference to the U.S. has become the order of the day. Macri has negotiated installation of two U.S. military bases in Argentina, first with Obama and now with Trump.

- Brazil deposed its left-leaning, democratically elected President Dilma Rousseff in a 2016 parliamentary coup. Her successor, the unelected Michel Temer, has imposed austerity measures and cooperated with the U.S. in joint military exercises along the Brazilian border with Venezuela. Temer suffers from single digit popularity ratings and is barred from running for public office due to a corruption conviction. Former left-leaning president “Lula” da Silva is the frontrunner in October’s presidential election but was imprisoned in April by Temer’s government.

- Chile was the victim of the U.S. -backed coup, which overthrew the elected left-leaning government of Salvador Allende in 1973. A reign of terror followed with the extreme rightwing government of Gen. Augusto Pinochet killing thousands. An economic and diplomatic destabilization campaign coordinated by Washington set the stage for the coup. The Chilean regime-change scenario could be the model for Venezuela. The rightwing opposition in Venezuela torched a maternity hospital with mothers and babies inside and even poured gasoline on suspected Chávez supporters, burning them alive.

- Colombia is the U.S. ’ closest ally in the region, the recipient of the most U.S. military aid, and the source of the greatest amount of illicit drugs afflicting the U.S. . The Colombian government has flaunted its recent peace accords with the FARC and continues to be a world leader with 7 million internally displaced persons and political assassinations of trade union leaders, human rights workers, and journalists. In cooperation with the U.S. , Colombia has been provocatively massing troops along its border with Venezuela.

- Costa Rica is a neoliberal state that has been a staunch silent partner of U.S. imperialism ever since it served as a base for the Contra war against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua.

- Guatemala is a major source of undocumented immigrants fleeing violence into the relative safety of the U.S. . Femicide is rampant as is criminal impunity, all legacies of the U.S. -backed dirty war of genocide from the 1960s through the ‘80s, which claimed some 200,000 Mayan lives.

- Honduras’ left-leaning President Zelaya was deposed in a U.S. -backed coup in 2009. In the aftermath of rightwing repression and domestic violence, Honduras earned the title of murder capital of the world. The current rightwing president was reelected last November in an election so blatantly fraudulent that even the Organization of American States (OAS) failed to endorse the results.

- Paraguay is the site of the first of the rightwing parliamentary coups in the region when left-leaning President Fernando Lugo was deposed in 2012.

Pinochet: Torturer and Murderer backed by U.S.

Such is the nature of the rightwing states allied against Venezuela in contemporary Latin America. Perhaps the most dangerous aspect of this right tide is the willingness of Brazil and Argentina to allow U.S. military installations in their border areas as well as conducting joint U.S. -led military exercises with contingents from Panama, Colombia and other countries.

Cuba, Bolivia, and Nicaragua are Venezuela’s few remaining regional allies, all of which have been subject to U.S. -backed regime-change schemes. Most recently, the Nicaraguan government undertook modest measures to increase workers’ and employers’ contributions but lower benefits. It led to violent demonstrations. Some sources hostile to the Ortega government labelled the protests as “made in the U.S. A.” In the face of such protests, the government rescinded the changes on April 23.

### The Empire Strikes Back

In early April, the U.S. Southern Command conducted a series of military exercises, dubbed “Fused Response,” just 10 miles off the Venezuelan coast, simulating an invasion.

Later that month, Juan Cruz, Special Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Western Hemisphere Affairs, was asked whether the U.S. government supports a military coup in Venezuela. Speaking for the White House and dripping with imperial arrogance, he responded affirmatively:

> “If you look at the history of Venezuela, there’s never been a seminal movement in Venezuela’s history, politics, that did not involve the military. And so it would be naïve for us to think that a solution in Venezuela wouldn’t in some fashion include a very strong nod – at a minimum – strong nod from the military, a whisper in the ear, a coaxing or a nudging, or something a lot stronger than that.”

Across the Atlantic on May 3, the European Parliament demanded Venezuela suspend presidential elections. Four days later, U.S. Vice President Pence called on the OAS to expel Venezuela. Adding injury to insult, the U.S. announced yet another round of sanctions. Then the next day, U.S. ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley joined the chorus calling on President Maduro to cancel the presidential election and resign.

Haley: End Venezuelan election. (UN Photo/Eskinder Debebe)

Far more blatant and frightening is the Plan to Overthrow the Venezuelan Dictatorship – Masterstroke, dated February 23, 2018.Masterstrokewas leaked on the websiteVoltairenet.org and picked up by Stella Calloni in the reliable and respected Resumen Latinoamericano. Although Masterstroke is unverified, the contents as reported by Calloni are entirely consistent with U.S. policy and pronouncements:

> “The document signed by the head of the U.S. Southern Command demands making the Maduro government unsustainable by forcing him to give up, negotiate or escape. This Plan to end in very short terms the so-called ‘dictatorship’ of Venezuela calls for, ‘Increase internal instability to critical levels, intensifying the decapitalization of the country, the escape of foreign capital and the deterioration of the national currency, through the application of new inflationary measures that increase this deterioration.’”

That is, blame the Venezuelan government for the conditions imposed upon it by its enemies.

Masterstroke calls for, “Continuing to harden the condition within the (Venezuelan) Armed Forces to carry out a coup d’état, before the end of 2018, if this crisis does not cause the dictatorship to collapse or if the dictator (Maduro) does not decide to step aside.”

Failing an internal coup, Masterstroke plans an international military invasion: “Uniting Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Panama to contribute a good number of troops, make use of their geographic proximity…”

### A New Hope

With the urging of the Pope and under the auspices of the government of the Dominican Republic, the Maduro government and elements of the opposition agreed to sit down to negotiate last January in the hopes of ending the cycle of violence and the deterioration of living conditions in Venezuela.

By early February they had come to a tentative agreement to hold elections. The Maduro government initially opposed a UN election observation team as a violation of national sovereignty, but then accepted it as a concession to the opposition. The opposition in turn would work to end the unilateral sanctions by the U.S. , Canada, and the EU, which are so severely crippling the daily life of ordinary Venezuelans. Two years of adroit diplomacy by the Maduro government with the less extreme elements of the opposition were bearing fruit.

The agreement had been crafted and a meeting was called for the government and the opposition to sign on. The government came to the final meeting, but not the opposition. The opposition as good clones of Washington had gotten a call from their handlers to bail.

In a damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don’t scenario, the U.S. first accused Venezuela of not scheduling presidential elections. Then elections were scheduled, but too early for the U.S. . Then the date of the elections was moved to April and then extended to May. No matter what, the U.S. would not abide by any elections in Venezuela.Ipso factoelections are considered fraudulent by U.S. if the people might vote for the wrong candidate.

Mesa de la Unidad Democrática(MUD), the coalition of Venezuelan opposition groups allied with and partially funded by the U.S., are accordingly boycotting Sunday’s election and are putting pressure on Henri Falcón to withdraw his candidacy. Falcón is Maduro’s main competition in the election. MUD has already concluded that the election is fraudulent and are doing all they can to discourage voting.

CNBC, reflecting the Washington consensus, expects the U.S. to directly target the Venezuelan oil industry immediately after the election in what they describe as “a huge sucker punch to Maduro’s socialist administration, which is depending almost entirely on crude sales to try and decelerate a deepening economic crisis.”

Ever hopeful and always militant, Maduro launched the new Petro cryptocurrency and revalued the country’s traditional currency, the Bolivar, in March. The Petro is collateralized on Venezuela’s vast mineral resources: the largest petroleum reserves in the world and large reserves of gold and other precious metals. The U.S. immediately accused Venezuela of sinisterly trying to circumvent the sanctions…which is precisely the intent of the Petro and other economic reforms, some of which are promised for after the presidential election.

### The Force Awakens

Latin America has been considered the U.S. empire’s proprietary backyard since the proclamation of the Monroe Document in 1823, reaffirmed by John F. Kennedy’s Alliance for Progress in 1961, and asserted by today’s open military posturing by President Trump.

Kissinger: Issue too important for democracy.

The so-called Pink Tide of left-leaning governments spearheaded by Venezuela in the early part of this century served as a counter-hegemonic force. By any objective estimation that force has been ebbing but can awaken.

Before Chávez, all of Latin America suffered under neoliberal regimes except Cuba. If Maduro is overthrown, a major obstacle to re-establishing this hemispheric wide neoliberalism would be gone.

The future of Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution is pivotal to the future of the counter-hegemonic project, which is why it is the empire’s prime target in the Western Hemisphere. If the Venezuelan government falls, all Latin American progressive movements could suffer immensely: AMLO’s campaign in Mexico, the resistance in Honduras and Argentina, maybe the complete end of the peace accords in Colombia, a left alternative to Lenin Moreno in Ecuador, the Sandinista social programs in Nicaragua, the struggle for Lula’s presidency in Brazil, and even Morales and the indigenous movements in Bolivia.

As U.S. National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger said in 1970: “I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.”

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TheWholeYearInn Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:19 Permalink

Damn American RUSSIANS!

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???ö? TheWholeYearInn Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:01 Permalink

NOT meddling. DEMOCRACY !

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Ahmeexnal ???ö? Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:05 Permalink

Maduro, a "left wing socialist"....posing with thousand dollar haircut, hand tailored kleptocrat suit, and to top it off...jewel crowns like an european satrap. Sad POS. Hope he gets a Louis XVI ending.

Yes, the US meddles in LatAm all the time. Just look at Cuba: they deposed Batista and planted a hollywood 3rd rate actor (look it up, it's true!) as a "dictator". Castro was Rockefeller's boy and Cuba is a testing place for world government "boot stamping in a human face forever" style.

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1 Alabama Ahmeexnal Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:18 Permalink

what will these knucklers do once war is outlawed?

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OpTwoMistic 1 Alabama Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:34 Permalink

Who in US is doing this? Hang em.

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dirty fingernails OpTwoMistic Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:15 Permalink

One would think that Trump would be very against such behavior after what he went against, and if he was truly a "white hat". Same with domestic spying. Instead we get the typical double standards. Disappointing.

Fucking outlaw empire

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Bring the Gold dirty fingernails Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:54 Permalink

Right I just came here for the cognitive dissonance. Blah blah SOCIALISM!!!! **poster conveniently ignores sanctions and CIA activity**

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cheka Bring the Gold Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:10 Permalink

and nyc skype are destroying their currency

vipers love genocide

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FBaggins cheka Sun, 05/20/2018 - 21:49 Permalink

Yes they are, but all Venezuela has to do is trade oil for Yuan and forget to Bolivar. Their central bank system is not reliable. If they want some stabilization to avoid the recurring Spanish disease and to avoid falling into the clutches of the US and becoming an exploited client state, they will need a more stable currency not pegged on their own oil production. What a sick choice they have. Either be ruled by a bunch of asinine Marxists or by a tyrannical dictator who does not give a shit about the exploitation by the oil giants and F'ing your people with the cultural dictates of the IMF or the World Bank. Of course Trump and Co. are completely oblivious to any middle ground. Their only real tools are the CIA and the military. Where one fails the other is brought in to do the wet work. If you are spending $850 billion a year on the military and have sold your soul to the devil with CIA, there is not much in between you can afford to do.

The bottom line for the US is that any real progress and independent development of any nation with oil is a threat to US interests. Therefore, in this age of information, Venezuela will itself without the US find the middle ground and the US will lose out again.

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Leakanthrophy FBaggins Sun, 05/20/2018 - 22:48 Permalink

Maduro doesn't need outside enemies to destroy his country.

He's doing a splendid job ALL BY HIMSELF.

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El Vaquero Bring the Gold Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:13 Permalink

I have no doubt the CIA is down there fucking around, however, the CIA did not tell Chavez and Maduro to run the country like a banana republic and rely on oil exports, after seizing the oil fields and putting their cronies in the army in charge of running it, leading to a decline in output. Nor did the CIA make Maduro fire up the printing press and institute price controls. Thinking that the CIA is killing Venezuela is like thinking that a terminal patient on a morphine drip that speeds the death was killed by the doctor.

Whatever nefarious purpose the CIA has in mind, Venezuela is toast with or without its meddling.

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DemandSider El Vaquero Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:23 Permalink

You don't think American banks had anything to do with the low oil price?

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El Vaquero DemandSider Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:29 Permalink

I think Chavez and Maduro were idiots for relying only on oil to begin with. If they had a diversified economy with a wee bit less central planning, they would be much less subject to such a shock. And banks are always fucking with commodity prices. I doubt getting Venezuela was the reason that the price dropped below what our domestic producers in shale need to turn a positive cash flow though.

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DemandSider El Vaquero Sun, 05/20/2018 - 18:00 Permalink

"If they had a diversified economy with a wee bit less central planning, they would be much less subject to such a shock."

CITGO Feels Effect of U.S. Sanctions Against Venezuela

http://www.cspdailynews.com/industry-news-analysis/corporate-news/artic…

Qatar and Saudi Arabia are just as reliant on oil, and I'm still waiting on American sanctions for The Yemen murder, Wahhabi terrorism funding, 911 links, etc. Norway is able to diversify, thanks to socialist Statoil investments. And our largest corporations seem to love central planning, actually:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Government-owned_companies_of_Ch…

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El Vaquero DemandSider Sun, 05/20/2018 - 23:05 Permalink

I don't exactly care for our largest corporations. Because they like central planning and bailouts. And they often ride on the status of the USD as the world reserve currency.

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bh2 DemandSider Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:33 Permalink

No.

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BennyBoy bh2 Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:39 Permalink

Fuck the CIA.

And its corporate masters.

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ZIRPY DemandSider Sun, 05/20/2018 - 21:19 Permalink

because printing lots of money leads to lower oil prices?

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DemandSider ZIRPY Sun, 05/20/2018 - 22:23 Permalink

When it's propping up relatively expensive tar sands and fracking, yes. It's a pretty clever way to tame OPEC and damage Russia, Venezuela and other leftist movements in Latin America. But, high oil means more petrodollar recycling, enabling more spending, and more debt. So, low oil is not something banks want, long term.

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silver140 El Vaquero Sun, 05/20/2018 - 19:21 Permalink

"Meanwhile the sanctions have taken a punishing toll on the Venezuelan people, even causing death. Sanctions are designed, in Richard Nixon’s blood-curdling words, to “make the economy scream” so that the people will abandon their democratically elected government for one vetted by the U.S."

The US does this to every government in Latin American that has had or has an independent, honest president and congress that does not allow US corporate fascists to rape and pillage their country. To NOT know this overwhelming fact is ignorance in the extreme, or blatant intellectual dishonesty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_chang…

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El Vaquero silver140 Sun, 05/20/2018 - 22:59 Permalink

And if Venezuela manufactured its basic necessities, which they have the natural resources to do, they'd outlast the sanctions. The world is not a nice place. You know those crazy cultural Marxists running around our college campuses starting to get policy changed? They're likely the result of a zombie process set in place by the Soviet Union. Other countries fuck with us to, and if we don't come to terms with our weaknesses, they will be taken advantage of, and we will get fucked. And we do have weaknesses that are much bigger than during the cold war.

Should we be fucking with other countries like we do? No. But we have the world reserve currency, and to maintain that status, we have to fuck with other countries. And losing WRC status is some scary shit. Picture losing 15%-20% of the oil that we lose over night and what that would do to the transport of goods and employment.

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DemandSider El Vaquero Sun, 05/20/2018 - 23:32 Permalink

"You know those crazy cultural Marxists"

But, you don't seem to care that real Marxists are doing the manufacturing for Wall Street, while the American middle class dies en masse in Opium War III: Fentanyl, China's Revenge.

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El Vaquero DemandSider Sun, 05/20/2018 - 23:52 Permalink

You think those are marxists? Nope. They're whatever they need to be to get what they want. They're the people who take over marxist revolutions and turn them into nightmares. That kind of person will always exist. They're the sociopaths, psychopaths and malignant narcissists. They're the sycophants who follow them. The CIA is full of them, and I guarantee that Venezuela's government is as well. And those kinds of people will exist long after we are gone.

Quit looking for simple single causes to the world's problems. Because there are multiple problems. And in Venezuela's case, we could be hands off and they'd still be fucked. And beyond sanctions, nobody has provided any evidence of what the CIA has done down there.

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Bob Bring the Gold Sun, 05/20/2018 - 19:02 Permalink

Me too.

Freak shows get old after a while, though, when they're unrelenting.

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nmewn OpTwoMistic Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:03 Permalink

"Who in US is doing this? Hang em."

Out of curiosity, I read the entire article and I found zero evidence The US Is Definitely "Meddling" In The Venezuelan Election.

It was like trying to read the CPUSA website, a disjointed hodgepodge of irrelevant factoids searching in vain for their place on a tapestry of coherence.

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El Vaquero nmewn Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:15 Permalink

I saw something about the Bolivian president saying so. And the CIA fucks with everything,so there probably are some CIA niggers down there. But the only things they can really do is either speed the process up, slow it down by getting caught outright and causing some backlash, or just sit on their duffs waiting to "influence" things when something finally does happen.

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Michigander Ahmeexnal Sun, 05/20/2018 - 18:59 Permalink

If we were really going to meddle, we'd take our Afghan heroin profits and air drop thousands of assault weapons across venezuela. Then, just let nature take its course.

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Jack Oliver ???ö? Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:34 Permalink

Countries like China and Russia are changing their constitutions so that a President can stay for however long is needed !!

This will help negate colour revolutions and Zio/US meddling - for however long it takes !!

The ‘Rothschild’s’ have never relinquished the top monetary control position.

The planned unseating of the Rothschild’s ( as is going on now ) will have a profound effect on the future of this planet !

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Bring the Gold Jack Oliver Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:56 Permalink

Do you have some evidence to back up the claim Rothschild's are being unseated? I would love for that to be true, would love to see some proof. I saw the helicopter/plane crash over the Rothschild estate in England. Got anything more?

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Majestic12 ???ö? Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:35 Permalink

"NOT meddling. DEMOCRACY !"

Chavez and Maduro were "democratically elected" (3 times under UN auspices)...sarc, right?.

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Bring the Gold Majestic12 Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:58 Permalink

Right because elections in the US have been legit since 2000 right? Also, it's WAY better to have the kind denizens at Langley make all those decisions rather than poor people in their own country. Maduro and Chavez are just as legit as W, Obama and Trump. Which is to say not at all, but at least domestic forces enshrined them? Or maybe it's just all fucked.

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jmack Bring the Gold Sun, 05/20/2018 - 19:14 Permalink

How is Trump illegitimate? He beat the establishment deep state candidate, so I am just curious how he cheated to win the election?

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lasvegaspersona ???ö? Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:11 Permalink

Obama...the commie...worried about a socialist government?...doubtful....more likely Obama was not included in the conversation.

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Bring the Gold lasvegaspersona Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:00 Permalink

Obama wasn't a Commie you fucking easily duped rube. Communism hasn't been a thing in a long, LONG time. You're mistaking crony capitalism corruption for Communism.

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jmack Bring the Gold Sun, 05/20/2018 - 19:17 Permalink

wow BtG, your stupidity levels are impressive.

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PlayMoney ???ö? Sun, 05/20/2018 - 18:48 Permalink

We USers meddle as much as any country, maybe more, in other peoples elections. Always have. With todays technology, its just like spying....everybody does it.

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J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:19 Permalink

Name one nation (besides Israel, of course) where the U.S. does NOT meddle.

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monk27 J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:27 Permalink

We meddled in Israel too, just unsuccessfully :) Obozo tried hard NOT to get Bibi re-elected in 2015. However, being the moronic clown that he is, Obozo failed miserably...

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Billy the Poet monk27 Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:33 Permalink

I'm your wicked Uncle Ernie
I'm glad you won't see or hear me
As I fiddle about
Fiddle about
Fiddle about !

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ogretown Billy the Poet Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:12 Permalink

Danke schoen...

Pinochet, August Pinochet
Killing socialists, each and every day
Pinochet, August Pinochet
Maybe Hitler's chum
But your no bum
Killing off the socialist scum...

I cannot remember the next sixteen verses, but you get the point.

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Bring the Gold ogretown Sun, 05/20/2018 - 17:01 Permalink

I do get the point, you're a piece of shit cheering on death squads.

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jmack ogretown Sun, 05/20/2018 - 19:19 Permalink

extremism in the killing of socialists is no vice. moderation in the face of tyranny is no virtue.

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1 Alabama Billy the Poet Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:24 Permalink

I am your wicked uncle sam

the one holding a ham.

my diplomacy is a sham

and i dont give a dam

b/c I am sam the man

who can fan the financial flash pan.

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homiegot J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:39 Permalink

Israel meddles with us. We meddle with everyone.

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11th_Harmonic J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 15:35 Permalink

One that plays with fire will eventually get burned.

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mark1955 J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 16:04 Permalink

Agree 100%!!!

The Hypocrisy of Our Country ( The United States ) is Astounding!

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bIlluminati J S Bach Sun, 05/20/2018 - 21:54 Permalink

The U.S., in the 1990s, while therapist Clinton was Prez, got Israel a non-Likud prime minister by magickally producing a million new voters. By the next election, these voters magickally disappeared into the ether.

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y3maxx Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:19 Permalink

Socialism works...just look at Venezuela.

sarc off

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monk27 y3maxx Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:27 Permalink

Better look at China.

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css1971 monk27 Sun, 05/20/2018 - 14:45 Permalink

China dropped socialism in 1982 when it reformed it's constitution. ;)

The Chinese communist party is commie in name only.

Oh, and Pinochet did nothing wrong.

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