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# Trump Proposes Bonus For Teachers Who Carry Guns

Just hours after President Trump angrily declared on Twitter that he never suggested that "teachers with guns" would be an appropriate deterrent to stop school shootings (before launching into a tirade about why doing precisely that would be a sensible solution), the president has proposed that the "20% or so" of teachers who agree to keep weapons should receive "a little bit of a bonus."

> "You can't hire enough security guards, but you could have concealed [carry weapons] on the teachers," Trump said, according to a pool report cited by the Daily Beast.

> "You won't have these shootings because these people are cowards. They're not going to walk into a school if 20% of the teachers have guns. And what I would recommend doing is, the people who do carry, you give them a little bit of a bonus."

Trump added that leaving schools "gun free" makes them too vulnerable to school shootings like the one that left 17 students of Marjorie Douglas Tillman high school in Parkland, Fla. dead and more than a dozen injured.

> Per pool, Trump said gun-free zones make it like "going in for the ice cream" for school shooters.

> — Tarini Parti (@tparti) February 22, 2018

Trump added that he would want teachers to go through "rigorous training" to "harden our sites." He also said that "people like to blame" the NRA and said he supported age restrictions for long-gun purchases, saying "it should all be 21" - referring to the age a person needs to be before they can purchase a gun. Trump claimed that the NRA - who he said are good people who want the best for the country - would go along with this...

The NRA presently opposes tightening age restrictions for gun buyers...

Watch Trump's remarks in full below:

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Number 9 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:09 Permalink

well this should be interesting..

some days don you really out do your self

but he does have the answer.. good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns..

of course that is NOT what the libs want..they want people with guns to take our guns so they are the only ones with guns..

clear yet?

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1777 Number 9 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:11 Permalink

What a great idea!

I bet that stops the attacks.

Criminals love defenceless victims...

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Bokkenrijder 1777 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:14 Permalink

Sure, the more guns the merrier! What could possibly go wrong? (/sarc)

Another 'brilliant' plan from the Tweeter in Chief...

Hint: nutcases that shoot up schools (or any other place) probably want to die in a hail of bullets, so perhaps they won't be deterred much? Fuck, it might even add to the thrill for some of them, sort of like a real live shooter computer game.

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Countrybunkererd Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:18 Permalink

It used to be that we all had guns in our trucks at school. We would even fight next to the trucks (with the guns inside) and no problems. So how is the gun the problem here if it wasn't in the past? Where was all the LAW when everyone knew Cruz was off the rails and stated he would do it many times?

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Bokkenrijder Countrybunkererd Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:20 Permalink

"So how is the gun the problem here if it wasn't in the past?"

Now that's closer to diagnosing the problem, but IMHO more guns won't be the answer. The real question is: why do people do this sort of sick shit? Why are there so many mentally sick people in the US?

Adding more guns to the already HUGE arsenal won't make any difference.

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MagicHandPuppet Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:22 Permalink

I am all for the 2nd Amendment and will ensure that MY children are protected from these kinds of events - as it is my responsibility to keep them safe. The ones who I personally hire and screen to care for my children will be armed.

Sadly, however, I grew up in a city going to public schools with a bunch of low IQ Dindus for teachers. The thought of them carrying does not make me want to send my children to their care instead. Trust me on this.

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Chupacabra-322 MagicHandPuppet Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:42 Permalink

@ Magic,

Agreed. Last thing a Conservative Parents want is some Liberal nut job Democratic Teacher with a Gun next to our Kids. Seems as though the only Group shooting Senators and such are Liberal Democratic nut jobs.

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Manthong Chupacabra-322 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:56 Permalink

In my districts, most teachers would get the vapors if they even saw a gun except on a government agent.

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nmewn Manthong Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:13 Permalink

Fucking progs, what a bunch of moonbats...lol. One day it's:

Cop + gun = good.

Next day it's:

Cop + gun = bad.

At least they're consistent on one thing:

Citizen + gun = bad ;-)

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Automatic Choke nmewn Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:20 Permalink

re: making uniform gun-ownership age to 21:

That is a good idea, since liquor is also limited to over 21. Shooting and booze just go together naturally......

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idahobandito Manthong Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:18 Permalink

Im in Idaho and the teachers are allowed to conceal carry, (so is everyone else now)and they don't get paid extra, but they stay alive.

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One of We Chupacabra-322 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:26 Permalink

I live in a small drinking village with a liberal problem in AK and I can't think of more than a couple teachers I know of that would be up to the task but I know most of the parents would. I'm not much for fundraisers or licking envelopes but I would be willing to stand armed watch a few hours per week at my kids' school.

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Handful of Dust One of We Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:31 Permalink

"I love this guy!"

Winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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clade7 Handful of Dust Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:56 Permalink

MAGA! Screw the little bonus! Pay a Bounty!

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Meat Hammer MagicHandPuppet Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:44 Permalink

Libtards won't carry...good.

Non-libtards will carry...good.

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kralizec Meat Hammer Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:00 Permalink

Yup.

And the real bonus is popping scumbags and making snowflake heads spin!

Woo hoo!

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Nobody For President MagicHandPuppet Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:54 Permalink

One word: Homeschool.

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FoggyWorld Nobody For President Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:36 Permalink

Sounds good but think it through. Look at the people the next time you are in your supermarket.

Do you really believe that all parents are capable of providing decent Home Schooling?

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kralizec FoggyWorld Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:53 Permalink

Where do you shop? Just curious...

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eclectic syncretist Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:23 Permalink

Did I just hear Little Brian Stelter's head explode?????!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJlILDmeoGU

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gatorengineer Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:23 Permalink

1) Spanking your kid is child abuse.

2) Big Pharma has to make money, if you have any kind of problem I have a pill to ""Fix"" it

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Bokkenrijder gatorengineer Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:38 Permalink

Yes, it's the typically lazy 'quick-fix' American solution to all problems, just like arming teachers.

So let's look at the cluster fuck;

1) The 'left' says: "gun control and no spanking your kid"

2) The Pharma lobbyists say: "buy our 'medicines.'

3) The 'right' says: buy more guns!

Unfortunately nobody says: "HOLD A FUCKING MIRROR IN FRONT OF THE FACE OF SOCIETY!"

Don't expect any solutions from your intellectually light weight Orange Flip-Flopper in Chief.

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Squid-puppets … Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:17 Permalink

Its not the 'lazy fix' - its the only solution that will have a pragmatic, short term improvement in the safety of our children

You could enact tighter gun laws with draconian bi-partisan support tomorrow, it would take 20 years of disarmament programs to make a proper impact. And even then, the LAST ppl to surrender weapons would be the criminals and the crazies - the good guys would surrender first.

There's no "wave a magic policy wand & you're in Utopia" solution, so get pragmatic.

& in the ethics of pragmatism, when even shopping malls have armed security - how does the Left justify keeping school grounds as the softest targets for crazies in our society? Its almost like there's a subconscious agenda to keep our children in harm's way, as a petulant response to not getting your ideological preference

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Countrybunkererd Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:26 Permalink

LOL. Rather- COL. Why? If you have to ask you need to dig more.

- No hope

- No God

- No Family

- Full of "MEDICINES"

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AnonymousCitizen Countrybunkererd Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:33 Permalink

"Okay. Nobody is getting recess until my gun is put back into my desk drawer. I'll turn my back and whoever took should put it back."

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Countrybunkererd AnonymousCitizen Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:42 Permalink

I know it isn't worth it but here goes:

"Okay. Nobody is getting recess until my pen (shoe string, belt, lock in the sock, pencil, paperclip...) is put back into my desk drawer. I'll turn my back and whoever took should put it back."

And I will add... "If this happens again, I will mow you all down with my car in the morning!"

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Deep Snorkeler AnonymousCitizen Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:42 Permalink

Half the teachers were made crazy by the system.

Half the students were made crazy by society.

Half of the police are pathological.

Throw teachers' guns into this gravity-warping vortex

and you know what's going to happen.

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Got The Wrong No Deep Snorkeler Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:33 Permalink

If background checks restrict crazies from getting guns then the nut job teachers won't be able to carry. As usual, you don't have much of an argument. As a bonus, the background checks may find other reasons to get rid of the crazy teachers.

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Automatic Choke Got The Wrong No Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:23 Permalink

I had teachers in elementary school that, given the chance, almost certainly would have shot me. I was an ornery little bastard. Perhaps I still am.....

(edit: actually, I am bigger now.)

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ThaBigPerm Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:30 Permalink

At the risk of being pedantic, nobody's talking about "more" guns - as in cranking up the assembly lines and getting us from 350-old million guns to 400-some-odd million guns. What's being discussed is taking guns already here, and moving them from the safe at home to a guard and/or teacher's waistband or shoulder holster at work. Where they could actually be used to defend against an attacker.

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Meat Hammer ThaBigPerm Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:57 Permalink

It’ll work and completely destroy their gun control argument. They know that. That’s why they don’t want this.

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Kurpak Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:48 Permalink

It would make a difference to the person getting shot at if they could shoot back.

What are they supposed to do, use harsh language?

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Perimetr Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:51 Permalink

Yeah but you just suggested that the guns should be taken away,

And you don't have to "add more guns", you just have to carry one

that is, if you want to protect yourself and your family.

The criminals will always have guns, regardless of laws.

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MEFOBILLS Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:58 Permalink

The real question is: why do people do this sort of sick shit? Why are there so many mentally sick people in the US?

Because the economy has been fully monetized. That means that everything reduces to a monetary price.

In the old days, there were aspects to being a human that did not devolve to money price.

For example, what are social costs of having women at home? Women networked and volunteered, were eyes on the streets, and basically kept civilization afloat. Women were not paid for this, but it was a signal service. What are the social costs of destroying the nuclear family?

Men did business and women took care of culture and children. Now that women have been induced into leaving the home and "making money" kids are relegated to being latch key, or shoved off into daycare centers, etc. Women in workforce as labor is great for starting a new debt cycle, which is exactly what happened starting in early 70's. This new labor can then pay off new debts. New debt pay off old debts (supposedly).

Nuclear families have moved away for jobs so there is loss of familial continuity. The banking "international" wants to break down nations, so national history is now being wiped out. We also have to listen to nonsense like all the races are the same, all the sexes are the same, and everything is relative.

It all boils down to the money system, which is why debt money has to be scrapped.

www.sovereignmoney.eu

By the way, there is an example in history where broken pieces of society were put back together... post Weimar Germany, during the years 1933-1938. During this period they did issue their own legal money, and don't let anybody else tell you otherwise. I'm telling you straight up, that is what happened, and the major reason for German "miracle."

But, horrors - we are not allowed to examine that history, because ((certain)) people won't allow it.

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gatorengineer Countrybunkererd Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:22 Permalink

You went to church on Sunday and respected your parents..... You thought about something beyond yourself and immediate needs.

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Chupacabra-322 Countrybunkererd Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:38 Permalink

@ Country,

There was never a problem a Generation ago with Guns. What’s changed? I would suffice it to say there were more guns per capita a Generation ago as well.

Answers me this?

There are & were plenty of Federal & State Laws on the books along with PROCEDURES that were not followed upon by FBI.

If the Laws that are already on the books, which were not procedurally followed by Law Enforcement didn’t prevent this tragedy. How is another set of Laws on top of the ones we already have, which failed, supposed to fix the problem?

It can’t. It’s a False argument.

Their False Flags, “Drills”, PsyOps, Divide & Conquer will continue until the objective is met.

They want you disarmed.

Period.

The Teen Drunk driving & teen driving death statistics alone Warrant we take away their cars. I would bet those stats well surpass gun deaths.

Same argument.

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youshallnotkill Countrybunkererd Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:36 Permalink

I doubt those guns were AR-15. Nobody wants to ban sport and hunting rifles.

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the6thBook Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:22 Permalink

Well then why don't they just go out and shoot at the police?

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SergeA.Storms the6thBook Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:51 Permalink

Because we shoot back, usually very effectively. There is a reason sheepdogs protect the sheep. And fuck you if you buy into the local grand conspiracy of bad cops policing your cities and taking your shit. Yeah, a bad one shows up now and again, and they make the news and get hammered. Frankly, any bad cop should be ground into the earth as a disgrace to a once respected and trusted occupation. Now due to a previous presidents anti-police stance and the piling on by the media of a false narrative many really GOOD men and women suffer a career they entered wanting to help their community. If you wonder why a cop is treating you like an asshole, look in the mirror, you might be an asshole too. You want policing to improve, work with your local department, not against it. Some people are bad, hurt others in many ways and need to be captured and contained in a cage. Most can’t take on this calling as most are not sheepdogs.

Most teachers should NOT be armed. They and the children should be safe in school. Pay the money and put a sheepdog on every campus with the means to engage any predator. This protects liability of the school, the teachers, and the community at large. Statistically speaking, and knowing the hearts and intentions of GOOD police officers everywhere, this is the best solution to the immediate scare society is experiencing. And I carry the street cred, 10 years teaching, 15 years policing, and a heart to serve my community, now retired. There are more with these character traits in policing and teaching than you know because these are the norm and never make the news. There IS a lot that must change, the vast majority of it needs to happen in people’s houses and families first.

Let the rebuttals and haters proceed in the comments.

Most people don’t like the ugliness of policing, however when needed, they do want it done.

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TabakLover SergeA.Storms Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:08 Permalink

Being a cop is not even one of the top 10 most dangerous jobs in America (fact...shut up.). When are we going to start thanking loggers and fisherman for their service?

TPTB have brainwashed Americans with worship of their once and future pit bulls; Cops and the Military.

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Automatic Choke TabakLover Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:28 Permalink

How about mandatory gun-safety training in public schools (perhaps around age 14 or so?). Every kid, (and every teacher) becomes comfortable with guns, knows how to shoot, knows how to be safe. Takes the mystique away from it all. I'd bet we'd end up with about the same number of people actually owning guns, but it would provoke a lot of discussion that would take the heat out of these crazies that want to shoot up everything.

Then, let teachers (who are proficient and comfortable doing it) carry at school.

Plus, mandatory gun training in school would explode thousands of heads, in a good way.

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Meat Hammer Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:29 Permalink

You just unwittingly admitted that the plan would work. die in a hail of bullets...

+1 for you, Sparky.

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Consuelo Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:29 Permalink

Hint:

The 'nutcase' in this case, is --- still alive...

And in case you haven't studied up on it, 'nutcases' actually do have fear. Of the unknown.

As in: If the threat against himself is unknown (who might be carrying), then his diabolical plot might not work out quite the way he had planned...

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Madmartygan Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:31 Permalink

If these nutcases really wanted to die in a hail of bullets, why do they almost exclusively choose gun free zones?

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Twee Surgeon Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:32 Permalink

"Sure, the more guns the merrier! What could possibly go wrong? (/sarc) "

How about the Nazis Blitzkrieg into Poland with multiple divisions of Armor and Artillery and Infantry and are met by soldiers on horseback, charging with Sabres drawn? That could happen and did happen. Not the best analogy but It wouldn't be hard to dig a few out yourself.

How about the on duty cop's sitting around Schools in their cars when there are no crimes being reported instead of sitting around the Bat-Cave or lurking on the Highways looking for broken tail-lights ?

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Cloud9.5 Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:38 Permalink

What they want to do is swap anonymity for infamous. They want to go from nothing to the topic of conversation for days. If they wanted to go out in a hail of bullets, the attacks would be on police stations.

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EddieLomax Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:03 Permalink

It is strange, these "nutcases" almost never go up against an armed target, must be lucky...

He has a point and this would help, although I'd say the real problem is nihilism, but that's much harder to fix.

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Pumpkin Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 15:58 Permalink

Hint: nutcases that shoot up schools (or any other place) probably want to die in a hail of bullets , so perhaps they won't be deterred much?

Do dead people actually need to be deterred much?

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FreedomWriter Bokkenrijder Thu, 02/22/2018 - 16:15 Permalink

Yes perhaps, but armed resistance will slow them down and ensure that their death wish is granted more quickly. Win-win

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Killtruck 1777 Thu, 02/22/2018 - 14:14 Permalink

21 years old to buy a long-gun?

So we're raising the age of entering military service to 21 as well then, yes?

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