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# Trump Warns Russia "Missiles Are Coming" At Syria After Moscow Vows To Shoot Them Down

A shooting war between the US and Russia appears imminent.

Following overnight speculation that the US may launch an airstrike on Syria at any moment, this morning, in his latest fiery tweetstorm, after slamming the failing New York Times and again lashing out at the Russia collusion probe and Cohen's office raid, Trump tweeted that "Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"

> Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!

> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2018

The tweet prompted several observers to point out the following Trumps statement from the historical archives:

> @walaa_3ssaf No, dopey, I would not go into Syria, but if I did it would be by surprise and not blurted all over the media like fools.

> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 29, 2013

In any case, Trump's comment came in response to a statement by the Russian ambassador to Lebanon Alexander Zasypkin who said overnight that any U.S. missiles fired at Syria will be shot down and their launch sites targeted in response to Trump promise of a forceful response to an alleged chemical attack on a rebel enclave near Damascus.

"If there is a strike by the Americans, then we refer to the statements of President [Vladimir] Putin and the chief of staff that the missiles will be downed and even the sources from which the missiles were fired," Zasypkin told Hezbollah's al-Manar TV.

> #Russian ambassdor in beirut : "If there is a strike by the Americans on #Syria , then... the missiles will be downed and even the sources from which the missiles were fired," Zasypkin told Hezbollah's al-Manar TV, speaking in Arabic. pic.twitter.com/iMGKMLxWp4

> — Nasser Atta (@nasseratta5) April 11, 2018

In response, Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that US "smart missiles should fly towards terrorists, not a legitimate government that has been fighting international terrorism for several years on its territory" and sarcastically noted that the US "smart missiles" could be an attempt to destroy evidence of the alleged "chemical attack" on the ground in Syria.

> RUSSIA RESPONDS TO Trump missiles-are-coming tweet.
> Foreign Ministry’s Maria Zakharova: “Missiles must fly towards terrorists, not a legitimate government that has been fighting international terrorism in its territory for several years.”
> And missiles would “destroy evidence.” pic.twitter.com/ZgYX0sMXuS

> — Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) April 11, 2018

Earlier, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that Russia “categorically” disagrees that a chemical attack took place in Syria. "I still want to hope that all parties will avoid any steps, which in reality aren’t provoked by anything, that can destabilize the already fragile situation in the region."

Peskov also said that Putin has no plans so far for phone talks with Donald Trump, while adding that Russian market volatility is partly emotional, partly speculative; Russian economy has sufficient durability, Peskov says

Meanwhile, indicating that a US strike on Syria is imminent, on Tuesday Trump canceled a trip to Latin America to focus on the Syria incident, the White House said. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis also canceled plans to travel to California in the coming days, as Trump told reporters all options were on the table regarding Syria.

As we reported on Monday, the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, left a port in Cyprus on Monday. The guided missile destroyer is armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, which were used a year ago after an alleged sarin gas attack on Syrian civilians.

Also overnight, Eurocontrol, the European air traffic control agency, warned airlines Tuesday to exercise caution in the eastern Mediterranean due to possible airstrikes in the next 72 hours.

Retired Adm. James Stavridis, a former head of NATO and an NBC News analyst, warned that any U.S. strike on Syria would likely require manned aircraft and characterized it as a "high-risk operation."

“Last year was about sending a signal,” Stavridis said, referring to the April 2017 strike ordered by Trump. “This year its about destroying actual Syrian capability."

Of course, if Russia is serious and it intends to shoot down not only US missiles but their sources - including ships and fighter jets - what happens in the next several hours could unleash World War III. Which would be bizarre if the only purpose for that is for Trump to prove to Mueller that he is not, in fact, a Russian puppet, even as the Military Industrial Complex enjoys its final victory.

Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, futures did not like the news that war between the US and Russia may be coming, and slumped to session lows.

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Looney Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:18 Permalink

Drain the Swamp??? HE is the Swamp!

Fuck this orange cocksucker – I want my vote back!

Looney

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general ambivalent Looney Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:21 Permalink

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All Drumpftards, please KYS.

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D.T.Barnum general ambivalent Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:23 Permalink

> You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!

What a drama queen. He lives in some kind of quasi-reality WWE fantasy land, where people can really get hurt, yet everything is fake.

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Slack Jack D.T.Barnum Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:24 Permalink

This latest chemical attack in Syria is yet another FALSE FLAG.

Just like all the previous chemical attacks in Syria were FALSE FLAG events.

Just like the Skripal "chemical attack" in Britain was a FALSE FLAG event.

Trump is a Jew (so is Theresa May, by the way).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=630
http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf

It seems the Jews want war,.... yet again.

If you wish to see how real wars are conducted, read:

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

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strannick Slack Jack Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:24 Permalink

America ruins the world to rule it.

Russia warned of false flag chemical attacks 3 weeks ago.

https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/russia-warned-about-…

America has been trying to destroy Syria since 2014 when Iran Iraq Syria announced their pipeline.

Like America destroyed Iraq for Euro oil trade.

Like America destroyed Libya for its gold dinar oil trade.

Like its trying to destroy China (tariffs) Russia (sanctions) for their PetroYuan Ruble oil trade. Look how the Yuan keeps going up. Look how oils been pushing up and now this morning is breaking thru its 3 year high. Commods going with it.

Zio Deep Statists will push us towards nuclear war for their Greater Isreal Petrodollar schemes. Putins patience keeps the world intact. Trump pushes against these evil men to take America from Syria. Muellers FBI Gestapo invade his lawyers office to blackmail him to keep him there.

What a piece of shit country

Pray for Putin and Trump. Prayer is powerful. "the One in you is greater than the one in the world".

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skbull44 strannick Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:26 Permalink

As I've been saying:

I miss the Trump that campaigned speaking truth to power and promising to bring home the troops and stop policing the world. The President Trump seems to be far from that person...and doing exactly what many of us expected Hillary to do.

Https://Olduvai.ca

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EuroPox skbull44 Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:29 Permalink

This is all looking very risky. Can’t Trump just lie and say that the US has attacked Syria and it has been a total success. Get Hollywood to put together a fake video, then declare victory and say everyone is coming home. Mission accomplished!

Who needs proof these days anyway?

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Slack Jack EuroPox Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:33 Permalink

Remember, the evil people, Theresa May, Stoltenberg, Trump and the rest, are damning Russia with obvious lies.

The Novichok nerve agents don't even exist.

HERE IS THE PROOF:

The Novichok nerve agents are supposedly much more toxic than the nerve gases VX or Sarin (and yet the Skripals are still alive!?).

Mirzayanov's book, published in 2008, contains the formulas he alleges can be used to create Novichoks. In 1995, he explained that "the chemical components or precursors" of Novichok are "ordinary organophosphates that can be made at commercial chemical companies that manufacture such products as fertilizers and pesticides."

https://www.amazon.com/State-Secrets-Insiders-Chronicle-Chemical/dp/143…

Basically, Mirzayanov claims that it is relatively easy to make the Novichok nerve agents.

So, some enterprising Arabs could buy a few chemists to make a few tons of it and then spray it all over the little Satan.

Do you really think that the Jews who run the United States would allow the publication of information that could lead to thousands of deaths in Israel?

Do you really think they would protect the publisher of such information by giving him residence in the United States?

Remember, Mirzayanov was given residence (and a University position) in the United States after he was kicked out of Russia.

There are also a number of "people who should know" that have stated that there is zero solid evidence for the existence of the Novichok nerve agents. For example: Robin Black in Development, Historical Use and Properties of Chemical Warfare Agents (2016):

"In recent years, there has been much speculation that a fourth generation of nerve agents, ‘Novichoks’ (newcomer), was developed in Russia, beginning in the 1970s as part of the ‘Foliant’ programme, with the aim of finding agents that would compromise defensive countermeasures. Information on these compounds has been sparse in the public domain, mostly originating from a dissident Russian military chemist, Vil Mirzayanov. No independent confirmation of the structures or the properties of such compounds has been published."

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-i…

And, Alexander Shulgin, Russia's representative to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (2018):

"There has never been a ‘Novichok’ research project conducted in Russia,... But in the West, some countries carried out such research, which they called 'Novichok,' for some reason."

CONCLUSION: The Novichok nerve agents don't even exist.

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:34 Permalink

Trump: "We will drop thousands of tons of nerve gas on the monster Assad and his devils, we will continue till they learn that they cannot use such evil chemical weapons on defenseless little angels." — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2018

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JimmyJones Slack Jack Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:36 Permalink

Is this a distraction? It's pretty rare the media gets moving like it did last night and then nothing. A few days ago Steve Pezineck said that Kelly would resign before we would go to war, General Mattis would too. They have not. The military is not for another war especially to back up the CIA Frankenstein aka ISIS.

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Manthong JimmyJones Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:41 Permalink

He might just get the impeachment that was deserved by his three preceders.

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various1 Manthong Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:48 Permalink

So, right after Trump disciplines his generals to pull out of Syria, mysterious chemical attack without any proof is trumpeted by media.
Trump does the 180 and tries to attack Syria.

This feeble guy is unstable.

Declare that rebels did it, and help Syria and Russia to eradicate all the rebels and restore Syria to democracy.

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HopefulCynical various1 Wed, 04/11/2018 - 07:58 Permalink

Looks like the Jews will get their goyim slaughter after all. I have no words to express my rage over all this.

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two hoots HopefulCynical Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:05 Permalink

"bombs will be "nice and new and smart" A adult with new toys. What kind of talk is that? Is Syria the weapons test ground?

Trump has moved on……..over us, passed us. He is getting to play on the big screen, world stage, name in marquee lights and he loves it. Think he also might have made BS comments to the Saudi guy and who knows what he told Bibi and he’ll stick to them, but not to us. George Carlin comes to mind.

He might have had good intentions but what he can do for us takes Congress to cooperate and they, Congress, have also……moved on.

And,

He threw us a bone yesterday by saying wanted to look at welfare abuse? “That will appease the little thinkers.”

And:

2 years from now a look at the ME/Israel, trade balance, national debt will define Trump vs his BS.

I see lots of resignations, military retirements in the near future.

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tmosley two hoots Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:27 Permalink

The extent of the delusion in both the author and in the peanut gallery is really amazing.

Human brains are fundamentally flawed. When they go into "mass hysteria mode" they can't even process the most BASIC logic.

IE Trump publicly warning Russia that he is going to shoot missiles DAYS before he does it is not an invasion, and the Russians shooting them down is not a "shooting war".

For those who are NOT participating in the mass hysteria (I think at this point I may be writing this for myself only), watch what how the peanutz react when it becomes plain as day that it is a nothingburger just like last year. They will NOT calm down, they will get more extreme in their hate. This is a cult attractor (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ZQG9cwKbct2LtmL3p/evaporative-cooling-o…) and it will PROBABLY be the end of the ZH comment section. There will still be people here, but they will be cultists with zero useful insight. Just a quasi-libertarian circlejerk.

Those participating in the mass hysteria--WAKE UP. If you can. A few dozen missiles impacting empty airfields had no effect last time and this time will be no different. Don't let this place turn into a circlejerk, which it will if I and any others like me do decide to leave (read the above link).

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Oldwood tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:31 Permalink

Trump only wins here by over the top rhetoric demonstrating his willingness to step over the line while stalling long enough for doubts to the validity of the chemical attack to take hold.

This is my HOPE.

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ThanksChump Oldwood Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:48 Permalink

My hope too, but if he attacks anyone other than the Saudis (for 9/11) or the Israelis (for ... everything), the bromance is over.

I won't follow some beta male bitch who can't make up his own mind.

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Luc X. Ifer ThanksChump Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:02 Permalink

Did sheeple noticed that there is total silence with regards to North Korea?

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tmosley Luc X. Ifer Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:16 Permalink

Hush now. We don't talk about that in the "We Hate Donald Drumpf" cult!

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BullyBearish tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:53 Permalink

hey shrump--BIOYA

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Pinto Currency BullyBearish Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:21 Permalink

Not that facts matters in this massive fraud:

Syrian Army Discovers White Helmets’ Filming Site in Eastern Ghouta

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804111063422215-white-helmets-fake-video-site/

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beepbop Pinto Currency Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:27 Permalink

A MUST SEE:

Artist's IMPRESSION of Satanyahoo RIDING Trump

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General Fuster Cluck beepbop Wed, 04/11/2018 - 11:04 Permalink

What will the USA do when Russia sinks a US Navel vessel?

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Jim in MN Pinto Currency Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:30 Permalink

What the world needs, desperately, is smoking gun-mushroom cloud evidence of the planning and complicity in such atrocities by the US and UK deep state rogue spooks.

That would blow this all to Hell, where it and they truly belong.

But it has to be the real deal--inside documents, validated on-the-ground video, stuff like that.

You know, a WHISTLEBLOWER.

Step forward! You will be recognized!

HELP!!!!!!!

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FBaggins BullyBearish Wed, 04/11/2018 - 11:07 Permalink

In these dark days never has anyone with an ounce of self respect been given such startling evidence to realize how all of mainstream media together with 90% of our elected representatives LIE, LIE, LIE, repeating in unison with the same words what they are told to say by some establishment-deep-state insider either paying them or threatening them – saying over and over again without a shred of any real evidence, mantras like, “the Russians did it” or “Assad poisoned his people.” They and anyone stupid or dishonest enough to believe and follow them are equally to blame for all the unjust wars and slaughters the Western puppet masters continually engineer.

There is not a spot in the body politic of our Western nations which is not covered with the sores and puss from the corruption of payoffs, threats and lies, and nothing now can be changed by any peaceful means, even if there was a will in the masses to just rebel – and there isn’t. Except for a distinct few there is no real resolve out there even for a more peaceful cure to our sickness. Our only prayer in the war to come, which our establishment has so carefully engineered, and the corrupted, weak, and brainwashed masses have so readily approved, is that not just some of the tentacles of this monster be destroyed in the process but all of its arms and its many heads be completely cut off and destroyed.

Our Western establishment is thoroughly corrupt. Our governments have been thoroughly corrupted. Our politicians have been thoroughly corrupted. Our elections and voting systems have become thoroughly corrupted. Our media is thoroughly corrupt. Because they play their reality games and shed the blood of innocent people, all of them must pay the ultimate price. The same should hold for all the functionaries and button pushers who think they will have a defence by saying they were only following orders.

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Give Me Some Truth Luc X. Ifer Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:29 Permalink

Re: The silence on North Korea.

I don’t think the neocons care which war “takes” or doesn’t. For their purposes any will do. If and when a “world war” commences, North Korea will also and quickly become hot.

Plus, that brief silence on North Korea will go away soon enough. You think North Korea is going to voluntarily give up any nuclear deterrence it may or may not possess NOW?

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chunga Give Me Some Truth Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:38 Permalink

No kidding. Who in their right mind is going to believe the US on anything if this happens. Commander in Chief david dennison is very creepy.

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tmosley Give Me Some Truth Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:48 Permalink

Neocons don't want world war, they want US domination, mainly by preventing new powers from rising in the world. That ship has sailed RE China.

And yes, North Korea IS going to give up its nukes.

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Give Me Some Truth tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:11 Permalink

Re: Yes, North Korea is going to give up its nukes.

Want to bet?

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Mr Hankey tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:33 Permalink

NK only has the nukes China wants it to have.

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maxwellsdemon Give Me Some Truth Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:49 Permalink

The Israeli firsters only want to take out NK because of their paranoia that they will sell nukes to Iran. Israeli as you can easily verify, sold nukes to apartheid South Africa in the 1970s. The psychology of the Israeli's is very clear and in your face; the only way to coexist, as the Russians are figuring out (and Hitler didn't) is to see them as a global force controlling all levers of power in the West. Hitler felt he could negotiate with England and the US, that the Jews controlling both countries would be logical. As we see now, that isn't the case and only by threatening the destruction of every country that is controlled by Jews (France, England, US, Israel, Saudi Arabia...etc) can a basis for coexistence be formed. However, I'm afraid the Russians now are not willing to take any chance so WW3 is coming now. It's not what the Jews want; they want Russia to back down by the way.

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BarkingCat Give Me Some Truth Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:52 Permalink

In Kim's shoes I would not have given them up before.

I made that statement right after Bill Clinton attacked Serbia. I said that any tin pot dictator would want nuclear weapons to keep the US from attacking.

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Give Me Some Truth BarkingCat Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:16 Permalink

10-4. There actually is a REASON these people/nations want to have nukes. A good reason.

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Carl Spackler BarkingCat Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:17 Permalink

Has anyone here considered other possibilities???

The deep state rogues in Israel may have access to their nuclear weapons. Must choke those people off to safely end the cabal.

Perhaps, it takes 3 global powers to do that.

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JimmyJones Luc X. Ifer Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:39 Permalink

They aren't serving their purpose of being the boogey man, so the media has moved to this chemical weapon false flag, Russia and Iran as the new Boogeymen. I think if Trump can drag this out another couple of days the media push will die on the vine and they will have to do another gas attack. What is odd and openly admitted is that the sight of the Gas attack controlled by our "rebels" is off limits to our military for inspection.

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moon_unit Luc X. Ifer Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:40 Permalink

Apart from the Brits have sent a ship to harass them. Well you know, Brits have a long and noble SouthEast Asian culture, they all learn Korean at school...
Burn them.

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FEDbuster Oldwood Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:14 Permalink

President Chump was reminded by the Saudi Crown Prince that he is on Team Sunni, and Team Sunni won't rest till Assad is out.

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DillyDilly tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:35 Permalink

fuck you to hell mosley

You're fundamentally flawed because the reactions here aren't 'mass hysteria'... Instead ~ they're normal everyday people telling their elected leaders to STOP THE FUCKING HORSESHIT GAMES...

There's ZERO reason for any of it...

I don't have any kids, but if I did I'd be even more pissed... Who does this HORSE'S ASS DJT think he is? You work hard, try and raise a family and you've got a HORSE'S ASS POTUS joking around about missles to bomb a country on a false flag...

& then you mosley [the Trump Mini-me], have the fucking nerve to come on here telling everyone their brains are fundamentally flawed because they don't see the 'cool calculating mathematics' and [GOOD] that will come when 100 missles are blown up which they'll then be on the taxpayer hook for replacing...??

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tmosley DillyDilly Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:37 Permalink

Case in point.

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DillyDilly tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:38 Permalink

fuck off

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tmosley DillyDilly Wed, 04/11/2018 - 08:45 Permalink

So you can have a nice echo chamber cult?

I might. We'll see how many come out of it after it becomes clear that this is a nothingburger.

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dirty fingernails tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:00 Permalink

Buh bye, douche

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tmosley dirty fingernails Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:16 Permalink

Hahaha, you think that such an action on my part would be a victory for you?

Of course you do. You're a peanut!

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dirty fingernails tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:31 Permalink

Typical neocon, narcissistic, psychopath response: only giving a shit about your "wins" and your social status. Go fuck yourself.

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moon_unit dirty fingernails Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:42 Permalink

Scorch the bones of the sodomite sailors. Burn them black and send them to Hades.

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tmosley dirty fingernails Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:49 Permalink

You don't understand group dynamics. If the "voice of reason" leaves, those who remain become more extreme. That is how cults are formed.

Do you WANT to be a part of a cult?

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dirty fingernails tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:10 Permalink

You, the voice of reason? Perhaps you should go read this:https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-10/american-dunning-kruger-epidemic-or-why-ignorant-people-are-so-sure-theyre-right

Then again, I'm sure you can't see yourself in this syndrome. Unlike you, I don't think I'm an expert in strategy, Trump, geopolitics, general knowledge, bitcoin, silver, and every-other-damned-thing. I realize I might not be right. You, ma'am, are a poster child for this syndrome, only slightly less than BillofRights on spelling and grammar. You very well might be experiencing normalcy bias as well.

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spyware-free tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 10:48 Permalink

mosley, can you not at least acknowledge that this time may not be the same as last time? There is a very real possibility this shit goes sideways if Russia follows through on their threats of retaliation and the situation escalates. You cannot deny that in our lifetimes the U.S. has not militarily fought a near peer adversary and a nuclear power like Russia. I'm hopeful that this time at worst would be like last year where missiles are sent to isolated locations with notice given. The way things are setting up it doesn't look that way though. Which if you value your life or at least your standard of life scares the shit out of a normal, sane person even if there is a small chance of armageddon. We all lose in that scenario and for what? A lie.

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Luc X. Ifer tmosley Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:26 Permalink

Actually you and 2xDilly are both right. Not everyone is well versed in understanding high stake games - like global level strategical interests, and how they are played, and these people are expected and entitled to feel very stressed about the situation and potential consequences. These people don't play highly complicated strategical games in their lives and don't care about them, it is just as simple as that, most people are not chess players and even less - advanced one with knowledge of human psychology and sociology and how these aspects are used to play these games, most people are just highly emotional poor beings.

To cool down the things and hopefully help many people here regain the cool and return to life and enjoy it, I'll explain the nothing-burger. Folks, I hope it is already well known to you that Trump is a master troller, and I have to give it to him he is probably by far the best at this in the world at this moment. In the given political context at home and internationally - Trump actually does the right thing mega-trolling and if you think Russians don't get it you are really ignorant, nobody wants to see nuclear mushrooms popping up everywhere in the north hemisphere - Trump included.

When Trump does the trolling one has to look not at the face value of what he trolls about, what one has to be observe is the context, the emotional setup with regards to the attached psychological and sociological load and the true target of the trolling.

Trump's real battle is with the left fascists at home and he has to employ a great variety of tools and strategy to lead and win the battle and showing toughness vs Russia is a must in this context, and Russians knows it and they go with the game as such.

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dirty fingernails Luc X. Ifer Wed, 04/11/2018 - 09:33 Permalink

So the entire Russian military is on combat alert carrying anti-ship missiles and tensions are high so that Trump can score some ephemeral political points at home? *facepalm*

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