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# US State Department Admits Plans To Meddle In Hungary's Democracy

by Tyler Durden
Nov 25, 2017 12:30 PM
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As we noted last week, hypocrisy may be the only consistent guiding principle of US foreign policy.

The Rex Tillerson State Department will pump $700,000 into Hungarian media to remove Viktor Orban.

TheDuran's Alex Christoforou writes:

> When another nation state uses media to communicate it’s point of view, its flagged as a foreign agent, a “bad actor”, and often declared as an “act of war (i.e. RT).

> When the US government uses its petrodollar strength to insert its agenda into another country’s politics it’s branded “democracy and human rights programming”.

According to The Gateway Pundit, Rex Tillerson State Department is spending over $700,000 to defeat PM Orban in Hungary.

> The deep state is vehemently opposed to Orban’s nation statism…his conservatism and his stance against open borders. For the neo-liberal cabal under the watchful eye of George Soros, Orban must go.

> In his speech accepting his party’s endorsement, Orban said he was fighting against “globalist” views that threaten the EU’s Christian nations and their moral foundations, for which he blamed Soros.

> “Some countries in Europe decided to transcend Christianity and their own national character,” he said. “They want to step into a post-Christian, post-national era.”

> “To execute Soros’s plan they want to root out governments which represent national interests around Europe, and that includes us,” he said. “They act like Soviet agitprop agents once did. We old war-horses know them by their smell.”

Breitbart.com reports…

> The U.S. State Department has courted controversy by announcing it will plough $700,000 into Hungarian media, angering the country’s anti-globalist, conservative government.

> The funding was announced by U.S. Chargé d‘Affaires David Kostelancik, who has previously appeared to openly criticise the Trump administration by alluding to “apparent inconsistencies in [U.S.] foreign policy” and remarking that “not every criticism of the government is ‘fake news’.”

> Breitbart London spoke to a State Department official who confirmed it supports what it calls “democracy and human rights programming” in many countries, and that its intentions in Hungary — a NATO ally — are to “support media outlets operating outside the capital … to produce fact-based reporting and increase their audience and economic sustainability”.

> The State Department also echoed Kostelancik’s claim that too many Hungarian news outlets are sympathetic to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s popular conservative government — which has earned powerful enemies by opposing the European Union on mass migration, building a highly effective border wall, and exposing the network of European politicians deemed “reliable allies” by billionaire open borders campaigner George Soros.

As we previously concluded, perhaps it's inaccurate to accuse the US government of hypocrisy in this case. After all, pressuring RT America with the intent of silencing the news network and spending our tax dollars propping up US-friendly media outlets in the Hungarian countryside are actually two sides of the same coin: the US government will tell you what kind of media you are allowed to consume.

If you are a media network in the United States that allows voices who oppose Washington's neocon-dominated foreign policy they will shut you down. If you are a news outlet in the Hungarian countryside that spews the US party line, they will prop you up. Both cases are the same: your media will toe the US government official line or else.

* * *

Note to Washington: This is not 1950. Hungary has been a fully free and democratic country with plenty of free elections under its belt. It does not need you to come in and attempt to manipulate its newspapers and broadcast media. What would you do if China sent in a few million dollars to prop up US publications who agreed to push the Beijing line? What about if Tehran sent some money to publications pushing the Ayatollah party line? You cannot even tolerate RT America -- which is largely staffed by Americans but dares to feature prominent Americans who challenge the neocon foreign policy line. Hands off Hungary!

Note to Viktor Orban: You risked arrest -- and worse -- in June, 1989 when you directly confronted the communists who were occupying your country. Now that Hungary's freedom has been won -- in no small way due to your efforts -- do not allow Washington's neocons to take it away from you! If you do not confront this violation of Hungarian sovereignty, the neocons will continue to increase the pressure. The neocons want you out! Just this week, neocon commentator Anne Applebaum wrote that you are a "neo-Bolshevik" who has "little to do with the right that has been part of Western politics since World War II, and...no connection to existing conservative parties." Do a little research and you will notice that Applebaum is a member of the International Advisory Council of the Center for European Policy Analysis -- the organization your own government funded for a big conference this summer! Neocon knives are out for you. You'd be smart to make a better assessment of who are your friends and enemies in the United States...before it's too late.

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Crazy Or Not Nov 25, 2017 12:34 PM

Putin's now running weekend workshops on election hacking?

TahoeBilly2012 Crazy Or Not Nov 25, 2017 12:37 PM

Why not just let Israel do it and remove a degree of seperation. Oh yea, I forgot, the charade of Free America keeping everyone free.

Troy Ounce TahoeBilly2012 Nov 25, 2017 12:45 PM

The world is getting Kafka-esk now.

38BWD22 Troy Ounce Nov 25, 2017 12:48 PM

Hungary is a nice country, I have been there twice. Used to buy Hungarian bearings long ago.

Leave Hungary alone, dammit!

BarkingCat 38BWD22 Nov 25, 2017 12:55 PM

I wish they would fuck off and quit trying to piss in the goulash

macholatte BarkingCat Nov 25, 2017 1:26 PM

The “Tillerson” State Department?
Not unless and untill he fires and replaces 50% of the liberal rats infesting the place.

91% of DC voted Hitlary
99% of DOJ & State Dept. political contributions went to Hitlary

Do you see a pattern?

Billy the Poet macholatte Nov 25, 2017 1:31 PM

Tillerson succeed in making the Boy Scouts of America and openly homosexual organization. He's scum.

TheLastTrump Billy the Poet Nov 25, 2017 1:46 PM

No shit? Did not know he was involved.

iClaudius TheLastTrump Nov 25, 2017 1:50 PM

Right up to his ... neck.

bobcatz iClaudius Nov 25, 2017 4:28 PM

"US State Department Admits Plans To Meddle In Hungary's Democracy"

Pfft! That's Nothing!

"US Government Won't Admit Their Tacit Finance of Apartheid Israhell" http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-1u

fleur de lis bobcatz Nov 25, 2017 11:27 PM

The DC Swamp has finally descended into gang warfare.

The State Dept., the Spooks, the central bankers, the Deep State, etc., all of them are out of control.

The turf wars are domestic and foreign, and the taxpayers pick up all tabs for their malicious mischief.

Battlefield USA fleur de lis Nov 25, 2017 11:59 PM

And by the way... Trump is not America's savior, but its judgement.

We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn... America.

You are NEVER getting your freedom and liberty back America. Ever.

The only ones that can ever destroy the Deep State in America... are Americans. And they don't have the balls to do it. Because skeered. And look! More shiny objects and destractions!

MonetaryApostate iClaudius Nov 25, 2017 9:54 PM

When are they going to admit to printing over $2 quadrillion US Dollars? (And a million times that in fake investments & debt!)

https://plus.google.com/+GaleInnes/posts/CdLuBK4GcMy

Billy the Poet TheLastTrump Nov 25, 2017 2:28 PM
Irving-Based Boy Scouts Will Admit Trans Boys, Continuing a Path Paved By Rex Tillerson

Four years ago, as the BSA moved toward allowing gay scouts to participate for the first time, then president of the organization Rex Tillerson was instrumental in pushing the scouts forward toward acceptance. Tillerson is now the Secretary of State in the Trump administration.

“Something about change we all have to remember; you really do get swamped with what is changing,” he told an annual BSA meeting in 2013. “It’s overwhelming. It’s really useful to step back and look at everything and recognize what’s not changing. More often than not, most things are not changing.”

http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/irving-based-boy-scouts-will-admit-tr...

In hindsight his use of the word "swamped" is interesting.

Chupacabra-322 macholatte Nov 25, 2017 1:41 PM

@ macholatte,

The pattern?

They’re all Criminal Accessories to War Crimes, Treason, Sedition, Crimes Against Humanity & Crimes Against The American People.

Tyrannical Lawless

Deep State Agents & Operatives.

dirty fingernails macholatte Nov 25, 2017 1:40 PM

You just keep right on letting them play the same games of blaming the other team while the same shit goes on even when the administrations change. So, by your reasoning Tillerson isn't in charge. Riiiigggghht.

TheLastTrump dirty fingernails Nov 25, 2017 1:52 PM

Yes.

President Trump isn't in full charge of the US government yet, either.

You clearly have not been paying attention to actual facts happening livestream but instead have chosen to eat that stupid internet narrative that the sides are interchangeable.

Anyone with a pulse should be able to differentiate what Trump is DOING from what Obama DID.

Anyone with a pulse should be able to see the obfuscation from some Republicans and almost all Democrats.

Anyone with a pulse should be able to see what media is trying to do & what Trump manages to make happen despite the obstructionism.

Anyone else notice the leaks have mostly stopped? Especially the classified ones. :)

Trump is riding all of you fuckers into the ground.

38BWD22 TheLastTrump Nov 25, 2017 1:57 PM

Yes.

And until I see convincing evidence otherwise, Trump <> to the Democrat fraudster/criminals/perverts.

Drain.The.Swamp.Donny.

waspwench TheLastTrump Nov 25, 2017 2:20 PM

I question whether Trump ever will be in full charge of our criminal, so-called government.

There are so many people fighting against him and scheming behind his back. They would kill him if they thought they could get away with it, and they will if they see an opportunity. He is surrounded by enemies.

pynky01 waspwench Nov 25, 2017 2:33 PM

...the govt hires a lot of knee grows... all/most of these folks voted and pant for the hildog ... clean this black swamp... scratch a black and you will find a nigger... luckliy they dont have the brain power to get past their passive-aggressive degeneracy...

dirty fingernails TheLastTrump Nov 25, 2017 4:45 PM

How does any of that change the facts on the ground? He's expanding wars, his tax plan is a bad joke of Trickle Down 2.0, his cabinet is thieves, elitists, morons, and war criminals. He lets his failure of a SIL run around the globe playing ambassador, he doesn't seem to have an original thought or idea outside of trolling. IDK about you, but I don't see "messing with people" as a leadership skill, nor flip flopping, or being thin skinned, or clearly having SHITTY judgement of employees. Sure, he's getting resistance, but not like he was before he started playing ball. You all seem to forget the GOP's official stance under Obama was to be "the party of No". The whole system is disfunctional and there are no easy fixes that make those on top and those on the bottom happy at the same time. The cabinet of billionaielres should be all the clue you need about just how populist he is.

Of course you're an ever-Trumper and he could skull fuck your granny while eating your children and you'd still worship him.

Stop pretending Trump, Tillerson, etc don't get briefed on what is going on and sign off. You think they couldn't purges at the SD if they wanted? Ha! Stop giving these assholes free reign to do as they please. There isn't much we can do, but you aren't required to believe their BS. Watch what they do, vs what they say.

But, I do agree that he isn't in control. The junta is in control and he's just the front-man. That doesn't exonerate him though.

Oh, and I should add that despite my dislike for him, he was *still* the best choice vs Hillary.

brianshell BarkingCat Nov 25, 2017 1:27 PM

If Tillerson is behind this, then Tillerson has to go.

President Trump now has two men to replace.

dirty fingernails brianshell Nov 25, 2017 1:38 PM

You think he doesn't have Trump's approval? Same as Sessions, he's doing what he's told.

caconhma dirty fingernails Nov 25, 2017 7:26 PM

Never forget that

- ALL members of the Trump's inner-circle are members of the same criminal/lying gang
- Trump and Soros are two sides of the same coin
- So far, despite all noise, there are no much differences between Trump & Obama except their deceptive rhetorics.

Folkvar brianshell Nov 25, 2017 1:58 PM

Trump does what his Jewish masters tell him to do. Hungary cannot be allowed to stand in the way of the Jewish white genocide agenda.

44magnum Folkvar Nov 25, 2017 3:06 PM

Seems the ONLY Nationalism thats proper and just is Israelis. All other countries its bad and needs to be exterminated. Hmmm i wonder why?

343 Guilty Spark 38BWD22 Nov 25, 2017 1:47 PM

I always assume Trump is being deceptive. Not to folk like you an me but rather to the elite class.

Tillerson pushing cash to oust a nationalist is completely antithetical to what Trump is all about. However we do know that Soros is doing the same in Hungary but much more quietly (because he is truly hated and any real coverage on it would cause serious blowback for Soros).

Being very obvious to piss off the population and reinforce Orbon, is something Trump would do.

I could be completely wrong but the theory fits with what we know about Trump and Soros.

38BWD22 343 Guilty Spark Nov 25, 2017 1:59 PM

For certain I have no special insights into diplomatic machinations.

waspwench 38BWD22 Nov 25, 2017 2:28 PM

This is absolutely outrageous. It is an act of war.

We have been making an incredible fuss over the possibility that Russia may have had some small influence on our last presidential election, but we openly announce that we intend to undermine and bring down the legally elected leader of a foreign country and that's OK.

AND is it not interesting that Orban is one of the very few voices raised in defence of preventing the invasion of Europe and the destruction of it's Christian culture and traditions.

America has become The Evil Empire that we have accused others of being.

Crazy Or Not Troy Ounce Nov 25, 2017 1:35 PM

>The world is getting Kafka-esk now.

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the war Room!"

Snípéir_Ag_Obair TahoeBilly2012 Nov 25, 2017 1:21 PM

Funny how RT must register as a foreign agent under Trump, but AIPAC, which is expressly refused to... is not being made to:

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/11/20/whos-foreign-agent/

or JINSA

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/17/us-intervention-in-syria-at-crossr...

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/11/syria-why-the-us-occupation-or-pres...

Why is Orange Jesus expanding the US footprint in Syria again?

Is this what 'winning' looks like?

Benedict Swamp sure hopes you think so...

Big Whoop Snípéir_Ag_Obair Nov 25, 2017 1:58 PM

America is the shining jewel of the world. As such everyone has a stake in America’s elections. We won’t complain about foreign influence - as long as they’re communists.

pynky01 TahoeBilly2012 Nov 25, 2017 2:44 PM

...remove the anti-christian marxist jew out of USA govt... jews have been persecuted and thrown out of countries for 2000 years.., ya think (((they))) must have been DOING SOMETHING WRONG... remove the jew and remove the problem... and we get WORLD PEACE AS A BONUS... the marxist jew is our enemy... LEAVE HUNGARY ALONE....who the fuk are WE SUPPORTING NOW it was ISIS you know the ones that murdered all those children in Egypt couple of days ago... ... we now support SOROS the jew... WE NOw SUPPORT THE SHIT ASS SOROS WHO WANTS TO DESTROY OUR NATION... are we completely bowed and kowtowed down to the jews... stand on your feet Tillerson ... NOT ON YOUR KNEES... boycott israhel... GOYIM UNITE, you know peacefully... don't hurt nobody's feelings or get near their safe spaces... just mill around eat some grass and ACT LIKE THE CATTLE we have become.. IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE NUKES WE WOULD ALREADY BE SPEAKING RUSSIAN...

HRClinton Crazy Or Not Nov 25, 2017 4:17 PM

As a recent ZH article finally figured out, it's not People v. People, or even Country v. Country.

It's Elites v. Elites, Aristocrats v. Aristocrats, Oligarchs v. Oligarchs, Cartels v. Cartels. Power v. Power.

In the case of the US and its ZOG, it's (((Z Usurpers))), seeking to expand their Global-lust network, though the injection of their own (((Franchise))) regime.

Nothing changes until you start hanging Global-lust Banksters.

monk27 HRClinton Nov 25, 2017 7:10 PM

It's morons vs morons, at all levels...

hongdo Nov 25, 2017 12:40 PM

I spent a pleasant week in Hungary years ago after the fall of USSR. Now I'm on the badguys side?

State Dept meet Hieronymus Bosch.

White Devil Nov 25, 2017 12:41 PM

ameriKa.

dirty fingernails Nov 25, 2017 12:44 PM

Cue the excuses about how God Emperor of Freedumb can't stop this sort of thing because of super secret swamp draining and like other stuff, yo. Or blame anyone but the people in power. Why not? It worked for Obama's true beleivers and so far its worked flawlessly for the Trumptards.

BarkingCat dirty fingernails Nov 25, 2017 12:57 PM

Yeah, Trump has made a career with a very simple phrase. He should start saying it again - "you're fired".

skipjack BarkingCat Nov 25, 2017 4:37 PM

All you brilliant numb-nuts should read up on civil service laws. The reason this shit happens is because you can't just fire who you want to fire...anyone here ever been in a union ? Can't fire them either. The swamp has laws to protect itself. This is an Obummer/Bush holdover who thinks he's more expert than Tillerson. Fixing this shit doesn't happen in 3 days, 3 months, but I sure hope it happens within 3 years.

dirty fingernails skipjack Nov 25, 2017 6:17 PM

Civil servants can be fired the moment they disobey direct orders. All you need to documentation. I had a civil service job once, in another life. Tillerson says x and your underlings do y, its YOUR ass as supervisor.

chunga dirty fingernails Nov 25, 2017 1:00 PM

Browbeating the sports players seems to be the go to diversion for the faithful these days. It whips 'em right into a patriotic frenzy. Most likely he'll just ignore it like Seth Rich and Julian Assange.

Of course the frauds in congress will vote unanimously to ignore this too.

Fireman Nov 25, 2017 12:45 PM

The more USSA messes with Hungary for the benefit of its anglozionazi criminal pedophile elite, the more Europe will despise it and turn to Russia. So a paltry 700,000 grand which USSANS don't have is going to buy the fierce pride of Hungarians...what a fucking joke.

My money is on Hungary. These people know the stench of fascism all too well.

If Hungarians gallantly resisted the USSR (on their doorstep) imagine what they will do to the shoddy and collapsing USSA living as it is off handouts and Chinese credit...for the moment at least.

http://time.com/3878232/the-hungarian-revolution-of-1956-photos-from-the...

serotonindumptruck Nov 25, 2017 12:47 PM

As an Amerikan, I stand with Viktor Orban.

Sudden Debt Nov 25, 2017 12:51 PM

Anybody can use russian bots for a low fee on social media.

I'm 100% sure the FEDs and CIA did the same with American elections.

BUT! IT ALL COUNTS ON 1 THING AND 1 THING ONLY!!!!

=> HOW STUPID ARE THE PEOPLE

And nobody likes to admit it but everybody is extremely influenceable.

And as the average IQ in America is as high a the average parot.... well the outcome is pretty easy to predict.

And secondly, not a single dumbass American will see a problem in these meddle operation in other countries just like they don't mind that their patriots rape children and woman for the fun of it.

The only thing Americans really care for is stupid television. And they've sold everything for it.

38BWD22 Sudden Debt Nov 25, 2017 1:24 PM

Not all of us are like that, mi amigo.

* * *

BTW, our family hopes to pass near your country next summer. But my brother and his wife are committed to the river cruise and do not want to go even a bit out of the way to visit your country.

Perhaps another time before too long.

* * *

In the meantime, best wishes to you and yours!

Sudden Debt 38BWD22 Nov 25, 2017 1:51 PM

I'm talking about the 99% of the population and rest assured, over here in Europe we've got the same kind of people.

Last week we also had that black friday shit and well... I seriously pissed me off to see how the sheep flocked in line.

there's just no people to who you can talk about this shit and everything the media tells them is good...

And if you do the Cruise, you'll pass Ghent or Antwerp and you should really visit the cities ;)

Best wishes to you and your family to brother!

moneybots Nov 25, 2017 12:53 PM

The Hungarians will see right through it, just as the British saw through Obama's meddling in Brexit.

Son of Captain Nemo Nov 25, 2017 12:53 PM

Looks like Russia needs to find the equivalent of a Nikki Haley that repeats often "Amerikansky can NYET be TRUSTED"!...

But lets face it... The psychopath "Uncle Sammy" took his mask off long ago...

After this (http://www.ae911truth.org/) and the narrative report that followed it the U.S. government ain't been hiding anything!

venturen Nov 25, 2017 1:02 PM

DO AS I SAY...not as I do!

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