The Bids Are In: Amazon Offered Up To $7 Billion In Tax Breaks ($140k Per Employee) For Second U.S. HQ | Zero Hedge
Description: Now that the bids are in, we have the opportunity to review some of the staggering tax subsidies offered to one of Silicon Valley's biggest companies.
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# The Bids Are In: Amazon Offered Up To $7 Billion In Tax Breaks ($140k Per Employee) For Second U.S. HQ

by Tyler Durden
Oct 19, 2017 9:35 AM
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For the past several months, cities all across the country have been competing for the opportunity to host Amazon's second headquarters which promises $5 billion in capital investment and 50,000 new jobs over a period of time. And now that the bids are in, we have the opportunity to review some of the staggering tax subsidies offered to one of Silicon Valley's biggest companies.

New Jersey apparently 'wins' the prize for 'biggest tax cuts' after offering $7 billion in state and city tax credits, or roughly $140,000 per job promised by Amazon...which should be plenty to once again thrust Bezos to the top of the world's richest list. Per Reuters:

> New Jersey proposed $7 billion in potential credits against state and city taxes if Amazon locates in Newark and sticks to hiring commitments, according to a Monday news release from the governor’s office.

> Across the Hudson River, New York City made a proposal without incentives special for Amazon, though the state is expected to offer some, a spokesman for the city’s economic development corporation said on Wednesday.

> And across the country, California is offering some $300 million in incentives over several years and other benefits, the governor said in an Oct. 11 letter to Amazon’s Chief Executive Jeff Bezos, published online by the Orange County Register.

But, while dozens of cities and states have submitted proposals for Amazon's "HQ2", credit ratings and research company Moody’s has ranked Austin as the most likely to win based on its labor pool, costs of doing business and quality of life, among other criteria.

That said, here are the 9 other cities that Bloomberg says also have a good shot:

> Atlanta: The southern U.S. city, home of Amazon delivery partner United Parcel Service Inc., is a major flight hub, and the greater metro area houses a dynamic population of almost 6 million, as well as the headquarters of major corporations like Coca-Cola Co. and Home Depot Inc. Still, Atlanta is a relatively suburban city, compared with the urban HQ1 of Seattle.

> Boston: Several Amazon executives have already advocated putting HQ2 in Boston, due to its proximity to Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology; an airport with nonstop flights to Seattle and Washington D.C.; and a lower cost of living than some other large urban areas. Amazon has ties with Boston already, having purchased local robot maker Kiva Systems Inc. for $775 million in 2012. The city also won General Electric Co.’s 2015 new headquarters bid, and has provided more than $100 million in grants, property tax relief and programs for GE – though the city has said it won’t negotiate any incentives with Amazon until Boston makes it past the first round of the selection process.

> Chicago: The Windy City ranks second in Anderson Economic Group’s analysis of 35 cities competing for the precious HQ2, focusing on its talent, diverse ecosystem and access to transportation in its bid. Just last month, Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner reauthorized the Economic Development for a Growing Economy (EDGE) tax-credit program, which provides special tax incentives to companies relocating to Illinois or expanding operations in the state when another state is actively competing, according to BNA. One issue? The city isn’t known as a center of technology.

> Denver: Denver has a busy international airport and is surrounded by a highly educated workforce. It’s also home to a surge of millennials looking for high-tech and energy jobs in Colorado, and boasts an outdoorsy lifestyle that’s an easy fit for Amazon’s quality-of-life considerations. Colorado has also chosen eight sites that meet Amazon’s requirements for HQ2. Still, other cities are offering larger tax breaks than Denver.

> Detroit: Detroit offers low rent and the potential for larger tax breaks, because the city and the state of Michigan are still trying to turn themselves around and diversify from manufacturing. Michigan is also home to three big universities that produce a broad pool of talent. According to Michigan State University, 70 percent of its engineering graduates remained in the state. Even so, Governor Rick Snyder has said he will not ask the state legislature to approve additional incentives just for Amazon, according to Crain's Detroit Business. The city’s mass transit system also isn’t on par with some other cities in the running, and Detroit has a smaller tech scene.

> New York: In its bid for HQ2, the Big Apple is pitching its diverse workforce, robust university ecosystem and access to advertising, fashion and other industries. Brooklyn is emerging as an attractive component of the bid, with its building boom and throngs of young residents. New York is so serious about HQ2 that Mayor Bill de Blasio had landmarks around the city, including the Empire State Building and One World Trade, lit up in "Amazon orange" on Wednesday night. (Neighboring Newark, New Jersey, is also jumping in to bid, offering practically the same workforce with $7 billion in potential tax credits.) The bid by the biggest U.S. city may be at a disadvantage because of limited space for construction and already-high housing costs.

> Pittsburgh: The city is home to a large labor force and well-respected research institutes like top AI and robotics university Carnegie Mellon. It’s also close to major distribution hubs and has an industrial manufacturing background that could be useful for Amazon’s warehousing projects. Yet it’s far from other major metro areas and tech hubs.

> Toronto: Canada’s biggest city is already home to 800 Amazon employees and boasts a large population of computer science, engineering and artificial intelligence graduates and programs. Municipalities in the Toronto region have teamed up to increase their chances at scoring Amazon’s HQ2, and Ontario just announced a plan to boost STEM graduates, saying that it can offer talent at 30 percent less than other big tech jurisdictions. Yet going to Canada holds political risks: Moving integral operations and workforce from the U.S. may step up tension with President Donald Trump.

> Washington: The U.S. capital city’s urban location, highly educated workforce and public transportation are top selling points for its HQ2 bid. Not to mention Jeff Bezos already has a strong presence there: the Amazon founder owns the Washington Post, and last year purchased the largest home in the city. Washington didn’t disclose what it may offer Amazon in financial incentives, but the district has been active in providing taxpayer dollars to corporations in the past, according to the Post. Cons include the city’s expensive housing market and limited space for building.

And while most large companies employ an army of consultants to negotiate with state and local municipalities, tax incentives are so important to the Amazon business model that the company decided to hire it's own internal army. Per the Wall Street Journal:

> While Amazon is considering many factors such as the labor pool, cultural fit and access to airports and major highways, its emphasis on taking advantage of incentives is part of the retail giant’s culture of frugality.

> Amazon’s approach differs from most other companies, which often rely on outside consulting firms to scout locations and negotiate tax incentive deals with state and local governments. Instead, Amazon in recent years has brought those services in-house and made them the responsibility of its economic development team, a sign of the company pouring resources into new, promising initiatives.

> Amazon’s team is led by specialists who come from different parts of the economic development world. The group finds sites for new projects and negotiates tax breaks to help fuel Amazon’s rapid expansion, acting as liaisons with local and state governments.

> Mike Grella, who worked at PwC before joining the web giant, joined Amazon as director of economic development in 2012. He was joined by Eric Murray, who had worked in-house on real estate and economic development at Lockheed Martin Corp. , in 2014, and Holly Sullivan, who worked on economic development for local governments in Maryland and Tennessee, in 2016. Mr. Grella leads economic development for the company’s cloud-services business, while Ms. Sullivan, also a director of economic development, is responsible for the rest of the company.

Amazon has said it will announce a decision for its second campus, in addition to its Seattle headquarters, next year.

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shankster Oct 19, 2017 9:36 AM

Dang..and I'm still stuck in the 99% group.

GlassHouse101 shankster Oct 19, 2017 9:38 AM

If they choose the city close to me, I am moving to the MOUNTAINS.

Shitonya Serfs GlassHouse101 Oct 19, 2017 9:41 AM

AMZN will probably end up choosing the location with the most Red voters (and closest margin of victory in '16). They can use this ruse, HQ2, as the cover to inject libs there. So probably Detroit, Atlanta, or Pitt.

BullyBearish Shitonya Serfs Oct 19, 2017 9:42 AM

guarantee that amazon will jack up prices enough to negate the tax break in a behind the scenes deal...who would know?

Phat Stax BullyBearish Oct 19, 2017 9:47 AM

So Silicon Valley has now extended to include Seattle?

Thought Processor Phat Stax Oct 19, 2017 9:59 AM

I would think Atlanta has the best chance. Boston is less likely due to the site in East Boston that the city is recommending.

The only upside to Detroit would be that they could conceivable take over the entire city with relative ease. But then why would anyone want to do that?

Son of Loki Thought Processor Oct 19, 2017 10:08 AM

Even I am amazed at how fast they deliver stuff. I ordered an office item and by the next day it was on my doorstep.

Incredible!

I'll miss going to the mall or office max where i have a good chnce of being mugged or shot by one of Obama's sons or a felon from the NFL.

swmnguy Son of Loki Oct 19, 2017 10:11 AM

It's even crazier if you have a Prime warehouse nearby. My son and his buddy were building a computer, and my son had ordered the wrong kind of RAM chips for the motherboard he had. His buddy's dad had a Prime membership, so they went online and bought the correct RAM chips. Within 45 minutes, a guy was standing on my front porch with a brown paper bag with the correct RAM chips in it. It looked like a dope deal. I was simply astonished how quick it was. It would have taken longer to drive to the local computer parts store, and that's assuming they stocked that exact type of RAM chip which is no sure thing.

American Psycho swmnguy Oct 19, 2017 10:13 AM

As taxation is theft, I have no issues with this. I only wish local politicians would offer such incentives to ALL companies.

jcaz American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 10:35 AM

Put it in Detroit. I wanna see how long Bezos lasts cruising thru the more colorful areas in Flint.......

Dukes jcaz Oct 19, 2017 10:42 AM

"Diversity is their strength" LOL

Joe Davola Dukes Oct 19, 2017 10:51 AM

http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/regional/s_498742.html

Hey at least Westinghouse survived, albeit barely, 10 of the 15 years of the tax breaks. I'm sure it will be different with Amazon.

Stuck on Zero jcaz Oct 19, 2017 11:20 AM

There's a giant Amazon warehouse/fulfillment center about 40 miles from here. Probably 200 trucks parked around it. About 20 cars. My guess is that there are only 50 employees in the whole place.

City_Of_Champyinz Stuck on Zero Oct 19, 2017 11:33 AM

Probably less, and they don't make shit. Fuck Bezos, nothing but a pathetically corrupt tax cheat.

Siamo pazzi City_Of_Champyinz Oct 19, 2017 11:39 AM

I say we boycott them to hell in an Amazon box ! Gotta do ut. I have opted to go direct to manufacturers sites whenever possible to avoid the bastard Besos !

HowdyDoody Siamo pazzi Oct 19, 2017 11:48 AM

"Fuck Bezos, nothing but a pathetically corrupt tax cheat."

The correct term is 'subsidy farming'.

cheech_wizard Siamo pazzi Oct 19, 2017 11:56 AM

That's how I buy everything now. Direct from the manufacturer.

Offthebeach American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 10:56 AM

Mass, Ill-noise, New York and the rest of the tax rape states will make up this sucker pitch in two years. Smart move by the political parasites. This time we're different!

gatorengineer American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 11:03 AM

Ahhh goober exactly whose money are they giving to Amazon? Its your money. You should be passed.

American Psycho gatorengineer Oct 19, 2017 11:19 AM

I think it is important to recognize that corporations do not pay taxes, their customers pay them via higher prices or their employees receive lower wages.

gatorengineer American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 11:58 AM

What are you talking about? Amazon is looking to build a billion dollar plus building. Lets conservatively say that the building would pay 10 million in local property taxes here in PA, that money goes to pay for the schools that the kids of the 5000 workers in that building use. We have a billion dollar casino that to get 1500 minimum wage jobs, we gave away 10 million a year in property taxes annually. So we got nothing doubled our police force, and have a ton of trashy people in the area....

If you havent looked lately Amazon generally has NO compeition for 90 percent of what they sell, its a monopoly. so what you have is Higher prices, and Low wage warehouse jobs....

Your post is way off base for the present situation.....

Also note that this is a corporate headquarters think average wage probably 80K (depending upon how many H1bs they get), not a distribution center.

American Psycho gatorengineer Oct 19, 2017 12:30 PM

I guess we can agree to disagree Gator as I feel my comment is right on the mark. I would rather invite a company to come to my state with tax incentives thereby hiring local people, who will spend their paychecks in the community generally speaking, then to send them elsewhere to fill those jobs. Where does that $10MM in property taxes get paid from; profits of course. Furthermore, the idea of higher paying corporate jobs should be even a bigger selling point. Just my $0.02

CJgipper American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 11:05 AM

How is a local company supposed to compete when their tax money is being used to subsidize their competition?

American Psycho CJgipper Oct 19, 2017 11:27 AM

100% agree Gipper, which is why I would like all taxes to be removed. A similar thing happens in the film industry; production companies go where they receive the largest tax incentive. Shocking that they go to the places where the 'cost to do business' is lowest. Why would the same phenomenon not happen in every other industry. Lower barriers of entry and let the market decide who is offering the best product / service.

p.s. your biography line is hilarious.

you enjoy myself American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 11:59 AM

How about individuals? For the life of me I can't understand how "tax incentives" specific to a company are legal. I don't see it as any different than a special tax rate for a single private citizen.

drendebe10 American Psycho Oct 19, 2017 12:52 PM

Fuk companies, how about working U.S. citizens

DaveyJones swmnguy Oct 19, 2017 11:32 AM

Their Sub-Prime membership is even crazier. It takes the money out of your account before you even order

yaright Son of Loki Oct 19, 2017 10:44 AM

It is amazing one click and 2 days later its at my door and the price is almost always great. But i do tend to buy as much as I can from local owned shops.

SoDamnMad Shitonya Serfs Oct 19, 2017 10:21 AM

Sure, put it in Newark. 300 Amazon employees to every 300 security guards trying to prevent them from stealing all the Chinese shit.

rpboxster Shitonya Serfs Oct 19, 2017 11:14 AM

I hope it doesn't come to Raleigh or Durham

JimmyJones GlassHouse101 Oct 19, 2017 9:40 AM

I have a feeling that they will not locate in a major city my guess is just outside of one enough that, that major city is easily accessable but the workers and more importantly the bosses commuttee doesn't totally blow on a daily basis.

Oldwood JimmyJones Oct 19, 2017 9:50 AM

The big question is....how much are you willing to pay for your job?

Economic development is based upon shifting tax burdens on to existing businesses. Personally I don't believe we should tax business at all, but what we instead see is some businesses given advantage over others through corrupted tax schemes. I have owned my business for over thirty years and have yet to see any consideration given through tax, fees or regulation, but for those willing to relocate or expand, THEY are given plenty.

Here in Dallas we have recently seen State Farm, Toyota, NTT Data Kubota and many others given significant considerations while the rest of us enjoy increasing taxes, fees and regulation. Crony capitalism.....for GROWTH, that typically always comes at someone's expense.

LetThemEatRand Oldwood Oct 19, 2017 10:01 AM

Damn straight. Not only that, but I notice in the article he's being offered $7B in tax breaks for a $5B investment by the company. Pretty good deal to say the least. Of course the guys who end up working in the warehouse will pay 100% of local, state, and federal taxes on their meager income, not to mention tolls to get to work, taxes on their vehicles to get to work, Obamacare costs, etc. May as well say "we're going to go ahead and let you build in our town with no tax liability for decades, and we'll extract all of those taxes from your workers." It's good to be the King.

Son of Loki LetThemEatRand Oct 19, 2017 10:11 AM

Sadly, these politicans ignore the small businesses and in Obama's case he hated small businesses.

Blue Boat Son of Loki Oct 19, 2017 10:45 AM

"in Obama's case he hated small businesses." --- yes, he did. I figure the reason why is because he knew he would be an epic flunk at building a business. Listening to his reponses during debates regarding business topics, my eyes would pop-out out at his juvenile and simply clueless responses.

I remain amazed that our country didn't economically crash and burn during his tenure. What a d-bag.

MrBoompi Blue Boat Oct 19, 2017 11:07 AM

Obama doesn't hate small business becuase he said he liked small business. You don't believe he lied do you?

BarkingCat Blue Boat Oct 19, 2017 11:12 AM

In reality we really did,... Crash and Burn. It was really covered up by the insane monetary pumping of the Federal Reserve. Had the Federal Reserve behaved like they have in the past and had the government released honest statistics we will have been in the deep deep depression.

woody188 Blue Boat Oct 19, 2017 12:33 PM

Yup, crashed in 2008 and they burned Ferguson and a few other cities in 2014.

economessed Son of Loki Oct 19, 2017 11:22 AM

TOTALLY AGREE: only the massive companies who already have every tax and regulatory advantage provided to them are offered incentives to locate their businesses.

As a small business owner, I am attacked through fees, regulations, and inequity in competitive opportunity on a daily basis. And all of it comes from the government at the local, State and Federal level.

It is becoming VERY TEMPTING to establish a foreign holding company for my little business so I can protect what little I work so hard for - just like the mega companies do.

If anyone wants to offer me $140K per employee in tax subsidies, send me pictures of all the vacant buildings in your downtown area, and I'll pick one and head on over.

Oldwood economessed Oct 19, 2017 12:05 PM

Don't hold your breath.

Joe Davola JimmyJones Oct 19, 2017 9:49 AM

You forgot the part about having a group of local politicos willing to sell out their taxpayers based on promises that will most certainly be reneged on in the future.

Pittsburgh hired outside consultants for something like $250k to prepare their kneepads, er bid.

Dapper Dan JimmyJones Oct 19, 2017 10:28 AM

Milam county Texas, just north east of Austin is the rumor going around

FEDbuster Dapper Dan Oct 19, 2017 11:27 AM

Income tax free Texas.

No Time for Fishing FEDbuster Oct 19, 2017 11:42 AM

Much better deal the NJ. NJ will give the company $7 billion break and get it back triple from the employees.

EveningInAmerica GlassHouse101 Oct 19, 2017 10:16 AM

Do yourself a favor and hang on for the property appreciation. If they move to the city near me I'm buying property in the "hip" neighborhoods. If things take a turn in 5 years when the full 50K employee base has moved in I'll move out and sell.

j0nx shankster Oct 19, 2017 9:51 AM

Amazon is a slave ship. You work there and you should expect to be worked like a red headed step donkey.

shuckster j0nx Oct 19, 2017 11:46 AM

worked there for a couple months. It was Amazing how they managed to make my paycheck last me just until my next paycheck

Kidbuck shankster Oct 19, 2017 9:54 AM

140K/$7.00 per hour.

These employees won't be making enough money to pay any income taxes, won't be making enough to buy a new car to pay sales tax, won't be making enough to ever own a house and pay property taxes. Half will still be on welfare, SSDI, SNAP, medicaid and/or medicare, will require Section 8 housing, schools for their children that they contribute not a dime towards, free emergency room treatments and many more govt sponsored perks. Why would an honest politician want this?

j0nx Kidbuck Oct 19, 2017 10:17 AM

Yeah and if they work there in the warehouse they won't need to join a gym because they are moving so fast and so hard that they will never get fat. Last I heard, Amazon had very high performance levels their warehouse folks had to meet as far as speed is concerned or they were gone. No idea if this is still the case but don't see why it wouldn't be. Mush little donkey mush! Earn that $7 an hour because Bezos' bank account aint gonna pad itself.

SoDamnMad j0nx Oct 19, 2017 10:25 AM

I worked for Tech-Data in CA and pick,pack and ship is a grinding business on the little guy. After 6 months you are dying to be let go for performance reasons.

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