Catalan Independence Movement Furious After Spain Jails Two Leaders For Possible Sedition | Zero Hedge
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# Catalan Independence Movement Furious After Spain Jails Two Leaders For Possible Sedition

by Tyler Durden
Oct 16, 2017 6:24 PM
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Political prisoners in Europe used to be a thing of the past; as of Monday afternoon, Spain has two.

Spanish judge Carmen Lamela has ruled that the leaders of the two biggest grassroots pro-independence associations in Catalonia should remain in prison without bail on possible charges of sedition for which, if convicted, they could face prison sentences of up to 10 years.

The legal investigation claims Jordi Sanchez, the leader of Catalan National Assembly (ANC) movement, and Jordi Cuixart, who heads the Omnium Cultural association, were heavily involved in organising the massive protest aimed at hindering a Guardia Civil investigation in Barcelona into the build-up for the 1 October illegal referendum. Specifically, members of the Guardia Civil were trapped in Catalan government offices on 20 September as a result of thousands of protestors encircling the building, in what has been described as a "siege" and during which three police vehicles were destroyed.

Now, in a decision that could further enflame separatist passions, both Cuixart and Sanchez are set to spend the night in a prison near Madrid; the two earlier refused to answer questions from the judge overseeing the investigation. Summoned to court twice on Monday, on entering they gave clenched fists victory salutes to a small group of supporters.

Cuixart, left, and Sanchez arrive to the Audiencia Nacional Court to testify

The ANC and Omnium are the two most powerful non-institutional Catalan separatist organisations, responsible for organising the annual marches in which several hundred thousand people are estimated to take part.

As reported earlier, the chief of the Catalan police, Josep Lluis Trapero, was also questioned in the same courtroom on Monday for a second time in ten days, on possible charges of sedition over the regional police force’s allegedly overly passive role during the build-up to the 1 October referendum. Trapero, who prosecutors had also asked to be detained, was finally released without bail, although his passport was confiscated.

Predictably the imprisonment of two of their best-known local leaders has provoked outrage amongst the separatist movement according to The Independent, further raising tension on an already exceptionally fraught day in Spain’s prolonged political crisis in Catalonia.

According To The Spain Report, Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont tweeted the judge's decision was "very bad news".

"Imprisoning Jordi Cuixart and Jordi Sánchez is very bad news. They mean to imprison ideas but they make the need for freedom stronger in us."

Deputy First Minister Oriol Junqueras also responded on Twitter within minutes, in English: "We ask to sit and talk and the PP, through the Public Prosecutor, responds with unconditional imprisonment for @jordisanchezp and @jcuixart".

> We ask to sit and talk and the PP, through the Public Prosecutor, responds with unconditional imprisonment for @jordisanchezp and @jcuixart

> — Oriol Junqueras (@junqueras) October 16, 2017

The independence movements were clearly outraged: Omnium Cultural tweeted: "The loss of liberty for the chairmen of Omnium and the ANC is unacceptable in a democratic society. The mobilisation continues, they cannot imprison a whole people!". The ANC released a pre-recorded message from Mr. Sánchez, in which he said his imprisonment did not respond "to any principle of justice", and that the court sought to "frighten us, punish us for having defended liberty".

The Catalan government's Director of Foreign Communications, Joan Maria Pique, tweeted: "Shame. Spain, the Turkey of the west".

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I hate cunton Oct 16, 2017 6:29 PM

Shiv them.

y3maxx I hate cunton Oct 16, 2017 6:33 PM

-Spanish Judge should be imprisoned.....as should Obama for his anti Brexit speach.

I hate cunton y3maxx Oct 16, 2017 6:34 PM

Shiv them all. It's the latest trend.

johngaltfla I hate cunton Oct 16, 2017 6:39 PM

Civil War with Nazis, Franco, "Globalist Democracy", Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Man is this going to be A LOT nastier civil war than the 1930's....

stacking12321 johngaltfla Oct 16, 2017 6:43 PM

well, i didn't expect the spanish inquisition!

tmosley stacking12321 Oct 16, 2017 7:17 PM

Imagine if 5% of Catalans marched to the jail where they were imprisoned and demanded to either go into the jail as fellow traitors, or for them to release the two.

Not much they could do against more tha na third of a million people.

fbazzrea tmosley Oct 16, 2017 7:49 PM

imagine if 5% of Americans marched upon their respective state capitals demanding our Congress and Senate representatives declare all non-U.S. military bases closed and recall military personnel including mercenaries return to the U.S. immediately.

we could then cut military budget in half, at least.

Slack Jack fbazzrea Oct 16, 2017 7:51 PM

Don't be fooled into violence and war.

This article outlines roughly how people were fooled into the second world war:

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

knukles I hate cunton Oct 16, 2017 6:40 PM

Well what the fuck do we expect when people try to break apart a copuntry?
Not that I don't agree and encourage smaller entities, biut of course dickheads steering the big countries into the NWO ain't gonna sit for it.

Jesus! They might ebven get their own cardinal!

greenspanator knukles Oct 16, 2017 6:59 PM

Here in ZH you don't get half the shit right. You see this process as creating a traditional entity full of white european traditional happy people.

In reality, look at the family names of these people: Sanchez, Gabriel, Trapero... all are of Andalusian origin, what in Catalonia call charnegos (filthy and poor immigrants of Andalusian origin). For Christ sake, they are Spanish!

Also, they are pro-NWO, pro immigration and leftist. They don't seek to destroy the EU, they seek to empower it, they are profusely pro-Brussels WTF! you complain about not having sovereignty and the second you get it you dump it on the streets of Brussels?

This movement has been supported by Freemasons from all over the world, they have even hosted a celebration for the 300 anniversary of Freemasonry in the Catalan Parliament.

They say they deserve independence because they have a different culture yet they welcome third world immigrants and become an open border republic, they have even complained about the central government not living up to the refugee quotas assigned by the EU, and have started regional reallocation programs. To me, this does not look like love for one's culture but like an accelerated self-loathing ethnic replacement.

Gentlement, Spain has been a bacon for Christendom and European values. Destroy it and you will loose a precious trench against the NWO.

Yen Cross greenspanator Oct 16, 2017 7:07 PM

Z/H is an information based site. . They[Tylers] simply post facts and let the readers sort the aggregate out.

If you don't like it, then go find another site that fits your narratives. [good luck]

Don Diego Yen Cross Oct 16, 2017 7:15 PM

On this issue ZH is hardly neutral. That is fine, it is a private website and the owners do as they see fit. I think they have been fooled and are on the wrong side, like most of the people commenting. However, I see a positive evolution in the comments as more and more posters are smarting up to the Cataliban drama queens masquerading as freedom fighters.

rwe2late Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 7:22 PM

Have you any criticism for the Spanish(Madrid) authorities?

Or do you simply give your unqualified support to Madrid?

Don Diego rwe2late Oct 16, 2017 7:35 PM

Don't get me started on those Madrid traitors. However, for once, so far, they are playing this beautifully. I insist in so far, I do not trust them and we can get betrayed at any minute but so far so good.

To explain the origin of the problem very shortly: For three decades, in order to get parlamentary majority, mainstream left and right wing parties depended on the parlamentary support of the Catalan main party. In exchange for what? let them indoctrinate the Catalan children in the madrasas and transform the local TV on Der Sturmer. We are paying now the price of betrayals during 30 years.

For me the ideal solution would be for Spain to take over the indoctrination department (or even better, close it down and let the parents organize the education of their children) and close the public TVs with non-stop anti-Spanish hate. Later, I would be generous and let the King pardon a few of the ringleaders every year.

fbazzrea Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 7:55 PM

thanks for your insight... it only makes sense the West MSM's perspective of the Catalan issue would be pro-NWO.

this is why the ZH comments are so important to me. i always learn more here than in the articles. they just get the conversation started. the broad mix of ZHers do the rest. (:

nmewn rwe2late Oct 16, 2017 7:36 PM

Sorta self-evident ain't it? ;-)

MozartIII Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 7:29 PM

If it helps, Catalonia can have our drama queens as well!!

EddieLomax greenspanator Oct 16, 2017 7:23 PM

The Catalan "independence" movement sound very much like the plastic nationalists that are Scotlands SNP.

They will declare anyone who takes up residence in Scotland as being a Scottish person, well anyone but the English - so Pakistani, African etc is all good. They demand independence from London, but insist on having their laws made in Brussels.

The real situation is so far from reality anyone would think that the media and certain people in power are trying to push through some sort of sinister ideology...

stacking12321 greenspanator Oct 16, 2017 7:30 PM

that's a very interesting viewpoint, one i haven't heard before.

but are you suggesting that the spanish government is pro freedom and anti nwo?

if it denies people the right to determine their own destiny, then what good are they?

rajoy seems like a dictatorial tyrant to me.

tyrrany is not a christian or european value - or if it is, it's one that should be discarded.

Don Diego stacking12321 Oct 16, 2017 7:54 PM

the current Spanish goverment is pro-NWO and anti-freedom, of course. However, the Catalibans are even more pro-NWO and anti-freedom.

In any case, in a couple of generations, it will not matter, just go to a maternity ward, or kindergarten, in any Western country.

MozartIII greenspanator Oct 16, 2017 7:32 PM

"Spain has been a bacon for Christendom and European values" Sounds kind of greasy!!!

Don Diego MozartIII Oct 16, 2017 7:55 PM

yes and not very kosher either.

Dame Ednas Possum Oct 16, 2017 6:30 PM

Power to the people.

stacking12321 Dame Ednas Possum Oct 16, 2017 6:41 PM

down with people!

power to the persons!

secretargentman Oct 16, 2017 6:32 PM

Letting them be kidnapped without a fight?? There should be 24/7 protection on all the important players.

Don Diego secretargentman Oct 16, 2017 7:16 PM

LOLZ, the Spaniards of the forum warned you several times that the capture of one of those idiots was as easy as a judicial summons.

hotrod Oct 16, 2017 6:34 PM

Have the Spanish people given up their guns like most of Europe?

USA, listen and learn

Best way is to stop paying your taxes in mass but you better know how to subsist

Hongcha hotrod Oct 16, 2017 7:06 PM

Although Spain's guns are not turned over like India or Australia, they are under very strict control along with the ammo. The Spanish FED can go to people's homes on short notice to inspect to make sure they are not"stickpiling" ammunition.

Don Diego Hongcha Oct 16, 2017 7:19 PM

in practice nobody in the gun club I frequent when I go there had one of those visits. The police has better things to do than bother law abiding citizens. If that rule was applied, it would be as easy as stockpiling the ammo at your mother's.

GoldHermit Oct 16, 2017 6:33 PM

OK now they're really pissed and leaving. This time for sure.

Don Diego GoldHermit Oct 16, 2017 7:23 PM

LOLZ, yes they are leaving for the extended weekend, probably the last time you can go to the beach before May. This is Spain bru. Only a few radicals care for those two taxpayer-subsidized agitators.

nmewn Oct 16, 2017 6:33 PM

Maybe they can petition King Felipe for their freedom, cuz "democracy".

Ya know? ;-)

rjdsaldanha Oct 16, 2017 6:34 PM

Power to the non Lib-Turd people.

Hank Stinkhammer Oct 16, 2017 6:35 PM

Devolution , aided and abetted by technology, will be the downfall of the technocrats everywhere.

G-R-U-N-T Oct 16, 2017 6:41 PM

This will only inflame the Catalonian's more then they already are. Fascist Rajoy is pulling out the whip ready to lash them into submission as capital vacates to the U.S. share market. He, Merkel's and Brussels EU experiment are fanning the flames of their own eventual demise. The sooner member States detach the better!

Don Diego G-R-U-N-T Oct 16, 2017 7:02 PM

The Catalans are getting pissed off yes, but at the conmen who promised them Nirvana. Instead they are losing dozens of companies per day.

HRClinton Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 7:16 PM

That's how sharks, like Doris and the Rothschilds operate: cause a national crisis, buy dirt cheap.

stacking12321 Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 7:33 PM

can you expound on " losing dozens of companies per day.", please?

Don Diego stacking12321 Oct 16, 2017 7:45 PM

http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-finanzas/noticias/8677853/10/17/Unas...

stacking12321 Don Diego Oct 16, 2017 8:01 PM

ok, thanks.

my spanish is not great, so i used google translate, i get the impression that the businesses aren't really leaving or shutting down, but rather just relocating their official HQ

so governance of those companies would be affected, but not their actual day to day business, which would continue operating in catalonia, if i understand correctly.

wisehiney Oct 16, 2017 6:37 PM

Lock em up.

They are all fucking socialist.

Every day they go at each other more and more and everywhere over their failed ideas.

freedom1798 Oct 16, 2017 6:38 PM

Puigdemont should have some balls and immediately declare independence. One doesn't let the enemy put your leaders in jail without a fight. Hopefully some of the Catalan citizens have weapons. The Catalan police need to start caching weapons in the countryside. Fuck Spain. And I say to Catalonia, "Grow a pair."

Don Diego freedom1798 Oct 16, 2017 7:04 PM

weapons are useless without "cojones", as Americans demonstrate everyday by not revolting against their AIPAC masters.

CaptainMoonlight Oct 16, 2017 6:39 PM

Fire it up, people.

Just remember how few people they actually have in the government compared to your numbers. This is your country, not theirs.

Grab your pitchfork.

BiggestLoser Oct 16, 2017 6:43 PM

That's not news, Spain has always been the Turkey of the west.

Don Diego BiggestLoser Oct 16, 2017 7:06 PM

I guess it is not worse than being the Israel of the West like your country.

Joe Dirt Oct 16, 2017 6:48 PM

Watching this Pantaloonia independence drive play out reminds me:

A) The world is ruled by force.

B) Politics are a substitute for violence.

nmewn Joe Dirt Oct 16, 2017 6:53 PM

Yes, the world is ruled by force, peace is merely the absence of violence...nothing else...and politics is the art of boiling a frog very slowly so he doesn't jump out.

asierguti Oct 16, 2017 6:53 PM

There is no grassroots revolution. Every revolution is the product of a highly organized group of professionals. Look at Ukraine, with Nuland and Soros.

These guys are a couple of marxists that are being used to destabilize Spain and Europe.

peddling-fiction asierguti Oct 16, 2017 7:12 PM

<-- truth causes butthurt <chuckle>

Exactly.

Script perfect.

These are two future leaders, with "prison" cred.

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