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# Polexit Threat: EU Increasingly Upset About Poland Ignoring Rules

by Tyler Durden
Dec 11, 2017 5:00 AM
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Authored by Mike Shedlock via www.themaven.net/mishtalk,

The Polish government increasingly defies EU rules. Since Poland is the largest aid recipient, the EU is hopping mad.

Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic are all in open defiance of EU migration rules.

In addition, Poland's Law & Justice party move to take control of the courts was condemned by the European Parliament and European Commission.

The situation is now to the point where various countries want to shut off aid to Poland, but given the EU treaty makes penalizing countries extremely difficult.

Bloomberg discusses the setup in Forget Brexit, Poland Risks Being the EU's Real Rogue State.

> Behind the noise of Brexit negotiations, the talk in the European Union this year has been that there’s potentially a bigger problem in the east. And the prospect of another rupture looks to be increasing.

> The mood in Brussels is that EU institutions can no longer stand by and watch a country that’s the biggest net recipient of European aid thumb its nose without paying some sort of price. Few people are discussing Poland following Britain out of the bloc, but a protracted conflict is getting more likely.

> Concerns about the shift in Poland triggered calls to limit access to EU funds for countries disrespecting the democratic rule of law.

> This week, Poland’s refusal to take in mainly Muslim refugees was referred to the European Court of Justice along with Hungary and the Czech Republic.

> “There is a growing feeling in Brussels that solidarity cannot be a one-way street, and that it becomes difficult to justify the 10 billion-euro per year net transfers for a country that is increasingly at odds with the bloc’s values,” said Bruno Dethomas, a senior policy adviser at GPLUS consultancy in Brussels and a former EU ambassador to Poland. “It is high time the EU reacted, or it risks losing its soul.”

> “Hostility towards the EU is part of Law & Justice’s DNA, and if it was up to the party, Poland would leave the bloc,” said Marcin Matczak, a law professor at Warsaw University. “But Kaczynski knows he can’t do that because Poles are benefiting from EU membership. Hence, the party slowly builds a negative attitude towards EU -- while declaring that Poland has no intention of leaving.”

### What Can the EU Do?

A fundamental problem in if EU treaty makes the situation difficult to address.

It takes unanimous agreement to do practically anything. Trade treaties are especially difficult. And there is no way to kick a country out of the block.

This problem was well understood from the outset, but Germany never wanted to be in a position where other countries could outvote it.

So here we are.

If the EU does find a way to punish Poland and cut off funds, it may drive Poland out of the block. The same applies to the Czech Republic and Hungary over migration rules.

Eventually things are going to splinter, and likely at the worst possible time.

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SpanishGoop Dec 11, 2017 5:06 AM

“It is high time the EU reacted, or it risks losing its soul.”

"Brussels" has sold his soul a long time ago.

Occident Mortal SpanishGoop Dec 11, 2017 5:17 AM

Stick it to em Poland.

What are they gonna do? Invade?

wildbad Occident Mortal Dec 11, 2017 5:31 AM

the Polish ans Hungarian positions on toxic Islam are two of the brightest points of hope currently in €urope.

Anyone who can't see the rationality of their position is in the enemy camp whether through ignorance or malice.

I don't try to convince those who don't want to be convinced so my militancy is growing.

The more free speech is throttled, as it most certainly is here in €urope , the more likely this will end in a bloody fashion.

That is OK too.

Haus-Targaryen wildbad Dec 11, 2017 5:33 AM

While I would love to see the entire Eastern Block give Brussels the finger and tell them to sodomize themselves, the Eastern Europeans will stay in the block and deal with the bullshit as long as they get tons of free cash from the German tax payer. When the "gibs" dry up, so will their interest in remaining part of the club.

Christ, German politicians are literally the worst on the planet. Someone dig up von Bismarck -- his corpse would likely do a better job than the people running the show now.

shitshitshit Haus-Targaryen Dec 11, 2017 6:07 AM

if eastern countries did not yet realize that mother russia is a far better alternative than europe, they will learn it the hard way one way or another.

God Emperor shitshitshit Dec 11, 2017 6:45 AM

They need to turn their backs to (((western))) media, entertainment and joostice system.

The chosenites bring only filth wherever they go. Especially in entertainment aka mind programming.

Pure leftist filth:

Actress Zoe Kazan Leaked Nude Hairy Pussy

http://celebrity-leaks.net/actress-zoe-kazan-leaked-nude-hairy-pussy/

AldousHuxley God Emperor Dec 11, 2017 7:03 AM

EU starting to reveal themselves to be the old German Reichlanders.....

Poland is mexico of Europe

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OverTheHedge God Emperor Dec 11, 2017 7:48 AM

My problem with your nasty little website is not the pornography - it is the fact that you are trying to earn a living off other people's misfortune. I know that these people should know better, and I appreciate that they are all self-absorbed, narcissistic, shallow hypocrites, but publishing other people's private photographs for your personal gain is simply immoral. You are scum. You are probably a merchant banker for your day job (I hope you understand the concept of rhyming slang).

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FOAD, scumbag.

Oh, and stop pretending that you are part of the conversation - you are just a spammer, like all the other waste of time spammers that have come and gone over the years.

Muslimania OverTheHedge Dec 11, 2017 8:01 AM

GO GET'EM, POLAND!

land_of_the_few God Emperor Dec 11, 2017 8:16 AM

Interesting that you are promoting it yourself.

land_of_the_few Haus-Targaryen Dec 11, 2017 6:16 AM

Von Bismarck saved the Euro oligarchs and industrialists from Communism or the Anarchists, by providing the masses with proper pay and pensions. Most probably a wise man in that sense.

HardAssets Haus-Targaryen Dec 11, 2017 7:46 AM

'European unity' is apparently redefined as going along with foreign invasion and the destruction of Western Civilization today.

And the Germans keep electing Merkel.

World Cash Day wildbad Dec 11, 2017 5:40 AM

Russian President Vladimir Putin must come out and declare that Russia expects Poland to be an integral part of the EU.

it is vital for the stability of the EU that Putin affirms Russia's position that Poland must remain in the EU.

Very important for Putin to do this - and repeatedly as he seeks re-election next year.

Support Poland in the EU Vlad.

Anasteus wildbad Dec 11, 2017 5:51 AM

It's high time to dissolve the whole union. It's totally screwed and irreparable; waste of time and energy. Doomed scam from the very beginning.

Ghordius Occident Mortal Dec 11, 2017 5:40 AM

nope. probably just re-arrange structural development funds

but look: China is dangling billions for that, and the US are dangling weapon sales at excellent conditions, too

that's excellent, really. Poland has... choices. More China, more US. and exit from the "Tyrannical Club That Is The EU" /heavy sarcasm

DUH. what's next? a love piece about Belarussia? oh, strike that, too friendly to Russia. how about a piece on that little republic that Greece hates when people call it "Macedonia"?

that's the fun of ZH: evidence can be overwhelming... but bias wins, always

Haus-Targaryen Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 5:44 AM

I would imagine that if the EU changed their "values" from "tolerance" and "diversity" to "national pride" and "cultural homogeneity" and actually tried acting like a weak confederacy as opposed to a federation in the pipelines, I would imagine much push-back against the project would disappear.

Ghordius Haus-Targaryen Dec 11, 2017 6:19 AM

are you trying to provoke me into ad-homs?

here. this very article. National Values. differing, strongly

you are... like drunk. on "the EU" koolaid. a kind of "inverted Schultz"... but, interestingly, pushing for federation instead of the loose proto-confederation we have

National Matters belong to the Nation State. i.e. Poland

Culture belongs to the Culture Group. i.e. Poland

yes, two statements of... european Tolerance. of which you don't seem to have any, always looking for strenght above "weakness"

There Is No Such EU As You Are Trying To Paint. there is... Poland, Germany, Spain, etc. Members And Sovereigns. Neighbours, too

ThirdWorldDude Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 7:59 AM

So, how come EU counts immigration as a Union issue and not as a national matter, as it well should be?

Give yourself an honest answer to that and you might (hopefully, if you're lucky) understand WHAT and WHO the EU actually represents and what its purpose has been since its inception as the ECSC, but was finally brought to daylight with the Maastricht Treaty.

shovelhead ThirdWorldDude Dec 11, 2017 8:25 AM

Because Mutti's bosses want cheap immigrant labor and they gussy it up as diversity and free passage to sell it to the airheads.

Poland just won't go along with the industrial owners of the EU in welcoming rapefugees.

"Values... This is who we are." Lol...Right.

HardAssets Haus-Targaryen Dec 11, 2017 8:01 AM

That would be equivalent to the NWO crowd in America pushing for a return to the US Constitution. It's not gonna happen. Their broader long term goal of eventual technocratic world government requires economic & societal destruction first. It's much easier to accomplish this by weakening the nation and the family.

Rubicon Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 7:13 AM

It's not ZeroHedge bias old boy. Sitting here in Polska I can assure you that Catholicism does not want Muslims, and like it or not, the Catholics control the government to very high degree.

On the other hand, Ukrainians are 10 a penny here.

SimplePrinciple Rubicon Dec 11, 2017 7:57 AM

I wonder what they think of the current NWO Pope, then.

Ghordius Rubicon Dec 11, 2017 7:58 AM

the question was "what will they do? invade?"
my answer: nope

(my goodness, how much projection going on, here)

shovelhead Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 8:29 AM

So, Mr. EU...What are they going to do? Keep Poland's allottment of "refugees" on layaway until Soros can crush the opposition?

SoDamnMad Occident Mortal Dec 11, 2017 6:11 AM

Poland has probably the most efficient defense force in all of Europe. I think it's overall combat troops are better trained and motivated. It's armament is pretty good even without NATO (US) equipment. Germany who is the European MIC in terms of sales has the most broken down army and air force. Of course if there is fighting the Germans will probably try to negotiate another Molotov-Ribbentropp deal in order to keep the Nordstream gas flowing and avoiding civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction. But I guess it is Germany over all.

land_of_the_few SoDamnMad Dec 11, 2017 6:13 AM

No love for the Pilsudski Pact? :D

land_of_the_few Occident Mortal Dec 11, 2017 6:34 AM

They already did.

HardAssets SpanishGoop Dec 11, 2017 7:48 AM

Brussels soul isn't 'lost'.

Lucifer owns it.

adonisdemilo SpanishGoop Dec 11, 2017 8:47 AM

Brussels never had a soul.

All it's ever been/had is Tax, Borrow, Spend and Control.

Redistributive, Welfare Socialism at its very worst.

nicxios Dec 11, 2017 5:06 AM

Take your Kalergi plan and shove it EU.

land_of_the_few nicxios Dec 11, 2017 6:11 AM

And take your dirty grants and cash too :P

SmittyinLA Dec 11, 2017 5:10 AM

€10,000,000,000./ year in debt posed as "free money" till bankrupt and a 3Rd* world occuption Or....

National sovereignty

*3rd world occupation comes with eventual bankruptcy, ethnic cleansing, warfare and starvation and mass murder

Got water?

kikk Dec 11, 2017 5:09 AM

It's interesting to note that when the 28 EU commisioners voted for a president Jean Claude Drunkard was voted in by 26 votes to 2

The 2 were the UK and Poland

Ghordius kikk Dec 11, 2017 5:26 AM

EU Commissioners don't vote for such. try National Governments

specifically, PM Cameron voted against Juncker. note, in this, that Juncker was selected first by the EPP convention, and got the vote of 26 Prime Ministers, including... Pm Orban of Hungary. and the majority of votes of the EU Parliament, of course

(it's a bit as if he got all US governors bar two and Congress behind him, if you go for impossible comparisons. better: all States legislatures bar two and the Senate)

another idiotic piece. blows holes in the meme of "tyrannical EU", this "Poland does not respect the common rules", but... nobody notices, of course. we are here for the "rah, rah", after all

SoDamnMad Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 6:15 AM

The EU bitches about Poland cutting trees in an ancient forest area to stem the ravages of the bark beetles but Germany goes and does the same thing for the Hambach open pit mine so that more coal can be dug and burned. Sure Germany can get upset at Trump withdrawing from the Paris Accord but he isn't exactly championing coal production.

Ghordius SoDamnMad Dec 11, 2017 6:22 AM

key word: "bitches". response: let them bitch

BitchezGonnaBitch Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 7:35 AM

Great minds etc. Pip pip.

land_of_the_few SoDamnMad Dec 11, 2017 6:40 AM

There are wild bison, though, the last in Europe. And that reserve is also on the other side of the border in Belarus, and seems they are not very happy about what's going on. Pretty sure Germany doesn't have any bison unless you count the politicians...

alus land_of_the_few Dec 11, 2017 6:58 AM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/germany-wild-bison-shot-dead-250-years... - Germans just shot the bison that dared to cross the border from Polish side. He was able to travel whole Poland untouched, admired, people made plenty of photos, and just after crossing the border.... they killed him. As you can see old way of doing things don't change. Their grandfathers' gens..

land_of_the_few alus Dec 11, 2017 7:08 AM

There's not going to be too many bison once the old forest goes, they could just go in and AK-47 all the bison if they hate them so much, why mess around? Is it a d1ck-waving contest, as it appears?

BritBob Dec 11, 2017 5:10 AM

The Crazy EU- Gibraltar

MEPs and legal experts have claimed the veto over the territory’s future after Brexit would give Spain special status among EU nation, when they should be on an equal level.

The EU’s Brexit negotiating guidelines stated that the Brexit deal will not apply to Gibraltar without an “agreement between the kingdom of Spain and the UK”.

Experts have told the Telegraph that the veto could be illegal under EU law.

Spain's Gibraltar claim has NO legitimacy and YES would be illegal.

They've effectively signed the territory away 3x times!

Gibraltar – Spanish Myths and Agreements (single page):

https://www.academia.edu/34608739/Gibraltar_Spanish_Myths_and_Agreements

OverTheHedge BritBob Dec 11, 2017 7:59 AM

"Spain claims that the Treaty of Utrecht (which ironically is the agreement that caused them to officially lose Gibraltar) is the ticket to their sovereignty over the territory in modern times. Despite the United Kingdom declaring Gibraltar an overseas territory, Spain argues that Gibraltar is nearly self-governing, and therefore no longer falls under the jurisdiction of Britain. Consequently, the Gibraltarian people are the “others” mentioned in the Treaty of Utrecht who should not have claim to the land, because it must return “to the Crown of Spain,” if Britain should separate itself. (Heasman, 1966) They see the free choices of the Gibraltarians to be an insult, because they are not “indigenous,” and as a result, “are not a ‘colonial’ people, but rather, a ‘colonizing’ people.” (Spain Exchange) Furthermore, they make the argument that Britain should not be allowed to still hold a colony in the modern world, and should return the property to it’s rightful pre-colonial owner; Spain. (Spain Exchange)

Geographically, Spain has reason to claim Gibraltar, as it is located on the country’s southern border, and according to them is situated on Spanish territory. (Spanish Exchange) Historically, Gibraltar was part of the Spanish Empire for many years, “from the Reconquista through the War of Spanish Succession.” (Grant, 2002) They have not had legal control over it for over three centuries."

I think Spain might have a point, and as the UK has given Gibraltar self-determination, then they have intentionally given it away, so it by rights belongs to Spain. Shit out of luck, as far as I can see.

alus Dec 11, 2017 5:25 AM

1. Poland already took 2 mln refugees from Ukraine in last 5 years. This is almost the same amount as many EU countries together...

2. We don't want muslim migrants, non-checked, criminal, mostly iliterate&uneducated mass to create no-go zones as in France, Sweden or Germany...

3. From each 1 EUR of "aid" - 85 cents returns to Germany immediately via german companies winning the "deals". In public sector all infrastructure is to be financed in 50% by local government entities - so they increase their debt where? In German banks...

4. Poland's bye from EU means end of EU. We already have been living under USSR occupation by 50 years, EU reminds exactly the same way of acting, "ruling", and punishing as before, but this time under BLUE flags instead of RED one. The same ideology of rulling...

5. Germany never paid for WW2 destroying of whole country, killing 6 mln people (3mln was Jews with polish citizenship!), stealing arts. Poland lost the most during the war, but now Germany says - "it was long time ago, so there's no problem". Funny they are...

6. When new pro-polish government won the elections the trade deficit just decreased with many bln $ each year. Before, when Civic Platform has been rulling, each year there were minus 20-40 bln $ in favour of german and french companies.

Poland is switching toward USA. So this is the big ache in the ass of Germany. So they spread such propaganda like this.

Ghordius alus Dec 11, 2017 5:29 AM

if that is so: bye, bye, my dear Polish Cousin

good luck in getting a majority in Poland for EU Exit, first

SpanishGoop Ghordius Dec 11, 2017 5:42 AM

Not in 10 billion years.

However in case of a Poexit i wish the EU good luck in getting a divorce settlement payment from Poland like they did from the UK.

Or will a nett contributer divorce be different than a nett receiver divorce.

Ghordius SpanishGoop Dec 11, 2017 5:49 AM

he can... dream, can't he?

I mean... poor guy. he has a EU-skeptic government of the "Right-Wing" persuation that knows... and says so...that they don't have neither in Parliament nor among the Electorate the support for leaving the EU, but...

... they love to play the victims. of the EU... and Russia

and of course of Russian-German pipelines bypassing them

it's hard to have a Hard, Proper, Rightist and Righteous Gov... that weeps and plays the victim. makes any patriot weep, such things. some foreigners must be held account, don't they? or something

WTFUD alus Dec 11, 2017 6:05 AM

Poland is switching towards USA . . . . good luck with that!

land_of_the_few WTFUD Dec 11, 2017 7:09 AM

Seems there is an extra super-special deal on gas. Lucky lucky people, just in time for Xmas.

cookies anyone Dec 11, 2017 5:22 AM

"Concerns about the shift in Poland triggered calls to limit access to EU funds for countries disrespecting the democratic rule of law"

Said the unelected parasites in El-Brussels

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