Ken must smell so fucking good

>>4427
>>4429

goddamnit

>>4429
>>4427
GOD AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHGGG

>>4427
should have removed the dead links from the OP

What movies have you guys watched because of Kennedi?

>>4441
none. did you like it? just looked it up and its 4 hours long lmao

>>4441
>>4446
three out of four of her favorite movies are renowned masterpieces, la mamain et la putain in particular. too bad you're a bunch of plebs

>>4441
it’s just pretentious art house hipster shit you fall asleep to

>>4462
just stick to your capeshit, philistine, and let us intellectuals enjoy real cinema

>>4463
If you're trying to false flag as her, she doesn't write like that. Or anyone over 15. You're really autistic either way

speaking of cinema, why does ken hate mulholland drive? she made a reference to this in her discord bio iirc

>>4465
>If you're trying to false flag as her
i'm not, retard
how much of an autistic retard do you even have to be to think that lmao

>>4468
>mulholland drive: 1/2 stars
>brave little toaster: 3 1/2 stars
wtf

>>4475
how much of an autistic retard do you have to be to unironically call people philistine and call yourself an intellectual

>>4476
uh based?

>>4477
>how much of an autistic retard do you have to be to unironically call people philistine and call yourself an intellectual
holy fuck you legitimately have severe autism

Only complete retards would refer to themselves as an “intellectual”. People who are actually intellectuals don’t go around calling themselves that nor do they think that watching certain films makes them superior kek

capeshitters are so easily triggered lmao

>>4479
>Only complete retards would refer to themselves as an “intellectual”
true. unlike rohmer or eustache, mulholland drive really is pretentious shit. late lynch is even more so. this is gonna sound like the typical hipster banter, but eraserhead, twin peaks, blue velvet, even the more conventional elephant man are so much fresher and more interesting in their weirdness compared to the trite, gratuitously obscure stuff he did later. thank god he stopped making films at some point, he must have realized he had become a charlatan.

howewer, you don't need to be an intellectual or to be particularly anal to appreciate this kind of stuff, you should just have a bit of curiosity plus some aesthetic and emotional perceptiveness. wait, I'm on an imageboard, wtf am I talking about

>>4485
lol why the fuck is someone like you here... you arent ken are you? have you ever talked to her

>>4485
only complete retards think calling something "pretentious" is a legitimate criticism

>>4486
I'm not her, I've never talked to her and I have no interest in doing that either

>>4487
I didn't come up with the word 'pretentious', >>4462 did. it's a word like any other, though, you can use it if you're ready to back it with some argument.

>>4484
capeshitters?

>>4487
its a vibe check, those can be important

kinda tired of seeing the same 20-30 pics of her over and over again bros

>>4514
better get used to it old sport, it’s not as if we’re ever again getting a steady trickle of fresh ones

now, while demand for ken content remains high (albeit not red hot like before), i wonder how much time must pass before things cool down and she can live a ’normal’ life with social media etc, like other people her age. when will the argentinians break off the relentless siege of her identity, lay down their arms and go home? can the dreaded mark of the egirl ever be scrubbed away?

>>4530
>can the dreaded mark of the egirl ever be scrubbed away?
I used to think so, but some of these girls are still being stalked or harassed years after distancing themselves from the orbiting scene. they seem condemned to lead an incognito internet life. I'm sure this will all fade away eventually but if you ask me when that's going to happen, that's another story.

there was one person I really cared about among them (I'm not gonna say who), and I've lost every trace of her. I know that a part of me is going to miss her forever, but it's probably better this way for her. despite everything, I hope she'll be alright. ok, enough with the venting.

Men ruin everything. Poor kennedi

>>4549
yea a right shame innit guvna

>>4514
There are a few rarer ones that only seem to have been posted to rouzed (which some of us can't access). It'd be cool if everything got compiled and re-posted.

>>4549
>Men ruin everything.
Implying that women don't? Grow up. Maybe get to know some real men instead of spewing low effort bullshit on a stalker board.

>>4551
i mean ive seen plenty of rare pics of her. she's posted less than 100 pics of herself so it gets sad and old seeing so few. if the Argentinians did something like that we'd have even less of a chance of her returning so no thx

>>4551
It was ironic

>>4530
she already did start living a "normal life" like you say. posting on private accounts not known to strangers. just like everyone else on earth.

>>4552
>she's posted less than 100 pics of herself
my folder has 118

ken is so based and lainpilled

>>4549
mexicans*

>>4571
lainpilled?

>>4571
Based and Lainpilled

I miss her so much god I hate this world, we all ruined everything. I’m having an identity crisis I literally based my personality off of her and i don’t know what to do

Sorry guys, but you're gonna have to find someone else to orbit. I'm just not comfortable with her posting pics of herself for orbiters anymore now that we're dating. Hope you understand.

I'll leave you with one last pic of her, from our date last night. Farewell.

>>4595
why the long face?

>>4595
Ken looks so cute in some pictures like in the OP's, and so ugly in others like yours. I wonder what she looks like in real life.

>>4597
The OP along with most current selfies, the nosebleed ones included, are so heavily filtered that it warps her features into looking more attractive. That isn't how she actually looks.

>>4605
There are only like three or four filtered pics of her right? She never posted them outside of her stories. I hate the fucking filter pics, I guess she did them for fun since she never posted them off her story but still it was gross to see them at all every few months on her ig story

>>4597
I think the pic of her in a red sweater meeting john maus is how she looks irl in motion. Unedited with flash on. She doesn't even look ugly in >>4595 though, her face is covered by a mask so she doesn't look cute either

>>4595
this is from november 2020. didn't laugh

>>4595
she desperately needs a haircut and stylist

>>4595
This photo was taken at The Golden Carrot
2120 South Blvd Suite 3, Charlotte, NC 28203

>>4615
ken at an expensive jewelry store. not very communistic of her

>>4614
but isn't the shabby autism chic part of the charm?

>>4618
Yes. I think a woman wrote the post you're replying to. I've noticed a few post here. It's too obvious

when will she make an onlyfans

i love her so much it's insane
her soft brown hair, her bangs, her fair skin, her writing skills, her music taste
i just sincerely hope she doesn't err astray

>>4636
doubt she will. good head on her shoulders even if she's kinda kooky. idk i always thought she just seemed good hearted with good morals. she'll be fine

Where’s the nazi
this thread is so boring

>>4642
he's an annoying schizo who ruins every thread with his babble

It's over

>>4680
since covid hit i've spent roughly $8,300 and counting on remaking myself as jean pierre leaud-circa-out 1 and this bitch settles for…mac demarco???? fuck right off

>>4680
>>4687
the pic is like 4 months old

>>4680
Soo who is this guy? Her bf? Keep seeing him in her photos, he’s ugly she could do better. Btw no way he sees her platonically if he’s straight and just her “friend”

>>4706
she has multiple guy friends and posted pics of them but idk why people keep only posting this one. he's good looking and the others aren't maybe that's why?

>>4707
I don’t get why she has guys friends if she’s such a radical anti-porn feminist tbh. I bet some if not all her guy friends watch porn

>>4708
It just means she's healthy and not insane. She's been friends with some right wingers too.

>>4709
Not just right wingers but full-on alt right redpilled people. She also used to watch million dollar extreme which is heavily associated with the alt right. It really makes me question if her morals/value are authentic.

>>4710
John maus is a communist and was on MDE. It's just comedy. She's been a commie since she was like 13. Just not a blue haired one who has meltdowns when they see things they don't like

>>4711
>not a blue haired one who has meltdowns
good to know she’s “one of the good ones”

>>4711
She’s a brown haired one who has meltdowns

>>4711
she has meltdowns, cries, and shits herself over smelling perfumes.

No matter what she does it's spun as negative, or a symptom of autism. Remarkable

>>4734
welcome to da internet

I’m gonna steal her lamb purse I’m so jealous. I’m so jealous of her. how is she able to afford so many perfumes, vinyls, and cute shit with a minimum wage job while paying rent. She’s living my dream life

>>4754
for real there's no way she can afford all that shit just from working in a bakery. where does she get so much money from.

>>4755
idk but I wish i was her friend. Just living life, going to cute stores, eating cakes, smelling perfumes with friends, walking under bridges, obsessing over music, wearing Mary Janes, reading philosophy books, loving life and being as good and authentic as possible. she’s so pretty and it seems everything in her life is a part of her aesthetic that’s heavily inspired by nostalgia and the colors pink and red. I think she is truly enlightened

>>4755
>>4754
why do you assume she's being paid minimum wage

>>4756
also i cant tell if you're actually obsessed or making fun of her at this point lmao

>>4758
no i’m unhealthily obsessed
>>4757
i mean… she doesn’t have a degree nor go to college (i’m assuming) plus is autistic

>>4759
how old are you? it almost sounds likr you're making fun of her and yourself lol. anyone can do the things you listed. you can make anywhere from 20 to 50k a year without a degree with a good resume and volunteer work and connections

>>4761
im 15. yeah but she doesn’t seem like the type who would have “connections” like a corporate normie. her only experience we know of so far is the bakery and volunteering at animal shelter, which isn’t a lot. also i just can’t see her working a normal office or receptionist job around normies except maybe a museum or something music/literature/art related but that’s just me. idk she’s so esoteric and unique I can’t imagine her fitting in with others and working a normal job making decent money… this thread makes me feel like I’m crazy for having these assumptions. anyone who knows her irl want to chime in?

>>4762
no one here knows her irl but yeah idk if she even still works at the bakery. she probably got a different job

>>4762
you're idealizing her, she's just a hipster girl with a quirky persona. get off the internet, get a life and grow up, if you do that you'll be laughing at yourself in a few years for thinking so much of a girl on the internet.

has ken tried shrooms before?

>>4781
she's said the only drugs she's done are psychedelics and microdosing mushrooms or something on twitter

Someone larp as a hipster e-girl and infiltrate her discord/befriend her so we can get some juicy details

>>4789
she doesn't have a server

what is the context behind this photo? was ken really on the chans as a 9 year old?

>>4821
Ken started going on /mu/ at 11. When people searched her up they found the photo from a couple years earlier

>>4821
>>4823
Both wrong. She had a few long posts about this once. When she was like 14 or 15 a guy in his 20s hit on her and she blocked him. His revenge was pretending to be her on 8chan (RIP) and halfchan which led to her becoming a small meme with people trying to dox her. They found an old youtube channel of hers from when she was a kid featuring her birds. She didn't even know until much later. It was unrelated to her becoming a /mu/ meme.

https://throbbinggristle.tumblr.com/post/110887157844/just-wanted-to-warn-you-that-some-weirdo-is-trying
>Feb 13, 2015
>Just wanted to warn you that some weirdo is trying to get a DOX on you. We Ignored Him, As Should you Sincerely Le Baphomet Army

>>4824
whats her old youtube channel? anyone have the video(s)?

>>4825
Don't remember the channel name but I know everything's been wiped for at least 6 years now. I never saw them on YouTube but i did see a webm of one once years ago. It was just her trying to get her bird on camera for a few seconds. Not really important. It's basically the pic as seen here >>4821

she would look cuter if she styled herself like any other normal girl. picrel

>>4828
>posts a pic of her at 14
oh no no no

>>4824
Theres never been any doubt that she was on /mu/ at a young age. That's why she ended up getting involved with older men and degenerate shutin revenge schemes in the first place.

>>4831
Wrong again. She was a Facebook and Tumblr kid who befriended people who used 4chan. She got into RYM culture because of a Facebook group called blogchat that had /mu/ tripfags.

https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/blogchat/

>>4832
Wrong again. She was also a 4chan kid.

>>4828
Shes too young in this but still a good example that she'd look better stopping the tryhard quirky look

>>4860
Sad fren

what are kennedi’s obsessions

>>4867
perfume
obscure music she uploads to jewtube
obscure films
communism
wearing only vintage clothes
whatever guy she fucks
tumblr shit
not brushing her hair

sums up Kennedi

The name Kennedi is a girl's name of Irish origin meaning "misshapen head". Kennedi is a spelling variation of Kennedy.

Is anyone hoarding the rest of the milksop album?

>>4828
>>4843
filthy casuals

>>4880
god this bitch is so ugly. she is also a complete coward. for someone who is so obsessed with “goodness” and “love” the least she could do is actually contribute to society instead of wasting half her life on pretentious films/music and perfume and writing adjective-ridden essays on tumblr (doubt she’s ever taken a basic college writing class btw). she’s so into the idea of being cultured and special that it’s self-masturbatory.

also, if she wanted to stop being stalked so much, and had any ounce of intelligence in her, she would tell all you scrotes to fuck off and die and stop writing ambiguous messages on her rym/tumblr that she knows no one cares about except her stalkers.

>>4881
lol

>>4881
>you don't get it i just hate her so much i have to write an essay on how much i hate her and how much i've thought about her in detail
she has a job, makes art, and has good friends. she used to be a total loser shut in and that's why she got orbiters in the first place. now she's a happy normie and we basically haven't learned anything else because shes been so private and deleted everything. and be real, telling everyone to fuck off would just piss off the most schizo of us and make them double down on her like what happened to every other e girl who threw tantrums. if she told you to fuck off, you know you'd hate her even more and still post about her. she has grace, as autistic and retarded as she is.

>>4880
alt universe kennedi who never discovers 4chan and cassette music and goes to school like a regular kid and becomes a veterinarian and wears ankle socks with skinny jeans and looks forward to taco night with the latest netflix prolefeed and her car salesman fiance in their single family home that her father-in-law helped purchase and refurbish

>>4881
>>4880
She's such a bitch for caring about goodness and art, you're definitely not just jaded.
Ken orbiters are the weirdest ones out there. So many relevant things you could bitch and moan about but you post a pic of her at 13 and complain that she watches artsy movies instead. I'd love to see what you looked like at 13 and hear all about what good things you do in college English classes.

>>4885
I would still fall for her

>>4887
>she was 13!!!
You think her head is a normal shape now? lol

>>4885
This version of kennedi would genuinely be superior because no hipster shit, autism, or communism. Just being a regular pretty girl wearing jeans and converse, being based and happypilled, probably watching disney movies and at Starbucks drinking a pumpkin spice latte, embracing being a consumer instead of constantly lamenting over capitalism on Twitter. no regurgitating the society of the spectacle or tiqqun or whatever. she would be the perfect “girl next door”

>>4894
no it’s true enlightenment. all the hipster stuff is navel-gazing. philosophy is a waste of time, just relax and love life. ignorance is truly bliss

We'll probably die without ever seeing what Kennedi's feet look like
Sad

>>4896
She has greek feet. They’re skinny and small (shoe size 6) and she doesn’t paint her nails. She was lucky I’m not a footfag like you freaks

>>4867
cassettes
hypnagogic pop
minimal synth
marxism
anti psychiatry
mycology
perfume
guy debord
scrupulosity
jasmine
baking
saints
failed revolutions
french movies about sad couples

>>4899
What has she said about psychiatry? Also, does anyone know what her relationship with her parents is like?

>>4900
she thinks psychiatry is harmful and psychiatrists are like cops and she thinks antidepressants don't work and are over prescribed. she used to post ig stories about it i might have some screenshots somewhere. she likes rd laing and franco basaglia and in the past couple years she became anti diagnosis

>>4900
also idk much but i know her parents were super controlling over her and they got divorced when she was a kid. i noticed she never talks about family even on her tumblr she only talked about her cousin. the only other posts are vague

>>4901
>>4902
Interesting. Thx for sharing

>>4828
stacy kennedi

>>4895
you're a tool

>>4902
I'd like to read those stories if you have the screnshots, although I wouldn't be surprised if she made sweeping generalizations based on ideological assumptions.

>>4908
no she never mentioned her parents politics online. i wasnt able to find any screenshots but i know her mom was a strict helicopter parent who never let her do normal kid things or go out, and her dad went insane in and out of mental hospitals when she was a kid. he's diagnosed with bpd and he beat her mom i think but not her. tbh i think her obsessively vague chrstian neurotic guilt partly stems from being spared of abuse as a kid. but she does have ocd so she'd probably be like that anyway.

also ive never seen this mentioned. the anons who say shes obsessed with being pure are half wrong. shes obsessed with being impure. she thinks/fears shes like contaminated

damn my captcha has 69 in it

>>4910
Can't remember which famous Brit said this but he argues that one's relationship with their country is intensely personal so it's not a topic that should even open for public scrutiny (i.e. rising for the flag). I think any Christian with an once of humility or rationality feels similarly about God.

I don't think she's sat down and earnestly examined her fundamental/first principles. She's quite young in fairness but I think philosophy's something people often use to feel like they've gained insight into the world without really understanding themselves. I mean real insight; the kind you can only obtain by paying attention and being honest (even if you don't want to)

>>4911
same anon from earlier here. im trying to not give away my identity so i cant go too much into detail. but the problem has never been that she hasnt thought about it enough. she thinks about this shit too much and it cripples her. i think shes doing better these days but she used to be unable to do anything because she was drowning in obsessive thoughts and busy with them. she'd benefit from reflecting on philosophy and morality less if anything. was never sure why anons talked about her autism so much when shes so high functioning. her real problem is ocd. like i said i think shes doing better but its not something shes ever gonna get rid of tbh.

>>4913
you've given plenty to think about regardless so thx. I made the last post and the one about her parents. I'm curious what your stake in all this is now. If you're not willing to talk about it here, I made a throwaway on reddit (no bullshit I swear). I'll post the username immediately after this in case it's against the rules.

>>4914
if you're not willing to talk about it here*, here's reddit*

/u/handsaroundthethrow (no bullshit)

>>4915
nah id rather not use reddit or post off here. i was never close with her though. and she never did or said anything that would be juicy enough to post here. i was in a groupchat with her on fb once a long time ago (like 2016/2017)

>>4916
What is it about her that attracts you discussion about her?

>>4911
I can see what you mean, but if you really study and practice philosophy you will see that one of its main purposes is to obtain the insight you're talking about. the greeks used to say 'know thyself' a long time ago. that's why the anon that said that philosophy is a waste of time is a fucking idiot. if she's burdened with guilt she should read Nietzsche. yeah, I know it's not that easy.

>>4910
I'm sorry, I meant to reply to >>4901
I was curious about her opinions on psychiatry, not really about her personal story, if only because you can't escape a lot of speculation around here.

>>4919
she thinks psychiatry is "biopolitical" and pseudoscience. she hates the DSM and thinks psychiatric drugs are evil and dont work how they're supposed to. she thinks psych wards are no different than prisons. she thinks depression is caused by environment not brain chemicals. she hates psychiatrists and says she was abused by them because they put her on a few drugs at once when she was a little kid. trying to remember more but it's hard. she used to constantly post this quote https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/842859-the-current-ruling-ontology-denies-any-possibility-of-a-social

shes so weirdly cynical and optimistic

>>4920
Fisher? ok, I'm almost falling love. almost. I mostly agree with her, psychiatry sucks for the most part, particularly in the US where they gave Ritalin to kids instead of candies. social environment and neurochemicals are not mutually exclusive, though, what's wrong is the present academic hegemony of neuroscience that almost exclude any other interpretive approach to mental illness. similarly, some people simply can't help needing drugs to avoid hurting themselves of others, the problem arise when drugs are used as chemical straightjackets to bypass the real issues and neutralize these people because you just see them as a nuisance or a threat to "normal" society. I guess I should talk about this stuff with her and write it here?
anyway, I guess that besides Laing and Basaglia her ideas have also been stoked by Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus. if she hates psychiatry, I wonder what she thinks about psychoanalysis. a nuanced distinction between the two would show if she's actually smart or if she's just posing as radical.

>>4921
>I guess I should talk about this stuff with her and write it here?

*instead of writing it here

>>4920
I don't think she's cynical btw. on the contrary, she seems quite idealistic.

>>4922
>I guess I should talk about this stuff with her
kek good luck. she avoids almost everyone and shes good at spotting anyone from an image board sadly. i don't think she has any active social media right now either. i used to shoot shit with her back in the day here and there but even then she was pretty cautious of me. for good reason i guess since im here posting this

>>4924
I know she's very wary and I can't blame her, I was just saying. the idea of talking to her is tempting, but all in all I'd rather not, I don't want to get attached to people on the internet.

>>4921
shes boring af and stupid and ugly lmao calm down simp

>>4926
I'm perfectly calm, what about you?
btw, just in case she's lurking: hi, kennedi, what's your take on AOC prostituting herself at the met gala?

>>4926
the only normal sane person in this thread

yall are so pathetic she's a naive 21 year old with barely any life experience, just the internet and reading too many books. she's nothing special she's just obsessed with big hairy philosophy daddies

>>4926
>>4930
fyi just because I'm discussing some topics she's into that doesn't mean that I'm idolizing her or anything. it's just not so common to find people that share these particular interests with you, that's all.

>>4931
>hairy philosophy daddies
Foucault was actually bald

>>4931
>barely any life experience
i think that was true for most of her life but in the past few years she became more private and less online. pretty sure her relationship with her ex traumatized her but she actually goes out and does things with friends now. hate to say it but she has more experience than me and most people here that i know of

>>4934
don't defend it. the average 21-year-old's life experience isn't comparable to that of anyone even a few years older. You or anyone else being 15/16 doesn't negate that. The situation with her ex also doesn't override how much worse it was for her parents to split when she was little. Her political beliefs practically write themselves based on those 2 factors alone. Quite sad really

molested by her uncle, raised by controlling alcoholic mom and BPD dad who are also divorced, grew up in bumfuck nowhere, drugged up on meds as a kid, cousin/best friend who shot himself, traumatized by abusive ex who threatened to kill her, losers on image boards like us harassing her, no friends when she was a teen, mental illnesses basically running in her family, etc. there’s probably much more. i’m surprised she’s doing as well as she is, are her interests a coping mechanism? I wonder if she’s getting therapy, because none of us strangers should even know all this personal stuff about her, it’s kinda fucked up.

>>4938
the molestation thing was made up by the nazi schizo but everything else is true and confirmed

>>4938
>she has interests? must be a coping mechanism
people like things

>>4938
Although the extent to which she's against psychiatry may have been exaggerated, I still hope she can at least recognize the utility that the medicine has for some people (even if those are just "the lucky ones").

In the very brief exchanges we've had on discord, she was very engaging to talk to and way more considerate than the average stranger you'd hit up for small talk. Personally I don't associate with people who are crass/toxic all the time and I'm not head over heels for her either - it's difficult to articulate but it's like fixation without that warm feeling you get when you fall for someone.

What I'm getting at is that even if she doesn't do therapy in the traditional sense, there's an honesty/openess to her that makes me think she'd do well with a bunch of people who genuinely care about her.

The psychos like us who genuinely care about 'her' have our own issues to work through too and posting here doesn't help. Has anyone here managed to quit without just moving on to a new girl?

>>4940
They weren't making that claim and you're not doing yourself any favors by misquoting them either.

>>4942
you talked to her on discord? was it private or in a server? what did you talk about and how was she
not asking you to post the logs im just curious

>>4938
How much of that do you think is actually true. Is there even a source for any of that besides what she herself has stated. Literally all of these girls lie and/or exaggerate about things like this for attention and because they like playing this sort of character. Regardless these aren't even particularly uncommon experiences these days but most people don't garner this kind of sympathy for it.

>>4944
she's never been caught lying and if you're sleuthy enough it's easy to find records on her batshit dad and her dead cousin. wish the court docs between her and her ex were public though id love to see them. but yeah shes always been honest afaik and shes been low key since she was like 17

>>4943
Discord DMs long ago. I wouldn't bother her directly now even if I could.

>>4944
We had a back and forth going for awhile and she was active in asking questions to my questions. Without giving out more than she had to, she talked about people in her private life when it suited the conversation - completely unprompted. She had no reason to lie and she made an obvious effort to show she was interested in what I had to say.

I can tell when I'm being strung along and this wasn't that. Despite all the off-putting stuff she does, I can't fault her for how she treated me. The convo was so lax that she had no reason to exaggerate. I'm not denying the possibility that it's all an act but I've seen nothing to the contrary anywhere.

>>4946
that's good to hear. people like the schizo like lying about her and saying shes fake but honestly the biggest thing that seems consistent with her is honesty and at least being true to herself. ive heard she's nice but distant (but obv shes going to be different to internet strangers than her friends) what off putting stuff does she do btw?

>>4938
Poor Ken, abusers deserve to die

>>4947
Her political beliefs and online persona. Frankly, I don't agree with almost anyone on those two matters so it's hardly unique to her.

Also, do you think she ever reads these thread? Knowing me I'd be in here whether I liked the attention or not. As a poster there's a thrill in that (warranted or not). This is wishful thinking but I hope she or her friends (some of whom I know* are definitely reading this!) can at least see that there's a whole spectrum of pathetic shit happening here

>>4950
how do you know her friends read this? anyway i think itd be hard to look away at first but after years of this they probably learn its better to ignore it. id probably go crazy

I liked Kennedi until I found out she was a Maoist, you can't be a good person and admire a mass murderer like Mao.

>>4952
not that it matters but shes not actually a maoist. thats a meme. I don't think she's labeled herself in years but she likes guy debord and bordiga

>>4953
I'm not communist but I must admit that she picks her commies well. I wonder if she's ever read Gramsci.

>>4942
>Has anyone here managed to quit without just moving on to a new girl?
personally I've embraced my misanthropy and just stopped interacting with people on the internet altogether (besides anons)

>>4947
>ive heard she's nice but distant
that's probably because of autism

>>4955
or maybe because most people who contact her are people like us who she hates

Here's one I haven't seen anyone post here. What else are we missing? Is there anything from rouzed.club?

>>4961
Oh and one more (had to double-check the other threads first). A few of the older selfies have slightly higher resolution copies floating around but they're never dramatically better. Regardless, I've been making an effort to collect the best of everything and reasonably certain most of it is. If this place goes away then it'll be cool to be able to reshare everything again.

>>4962
>>4961
you're part of why she left

>>4963
Don't care. I haven't posted ANY images of her up until now so if I'm anything, I'm part of why she'll stay away. You're likely going to hoard/enjoy these images regardless of my (or anyone else's) intent so don't kid yourself into thinking you're not as pathetic as the rest of us. If anything you're worse cause rather than let the band-aid rip itself off, you'd prefer to just orbit her for as long as your animal brain will allow.

>>4962
> If this place goes away...
That'd be the end of /agatha2/. There's no more other place left for the orbiting community

>>4971
you gotta be a max level simp to buy those lol

>>4971
From "What is INPRNT?"

"Every artist who is invited to open an INPRNT shop has been selected by our members, empowering the community and making our curated collection totally unique. Today we assist thousands of artists producing art in a diverse variety of styles, themes and subjects."

She's been a member since July. I wonder what drove her to wanna monetize her art. Doesn't seem like something she spends a whole lot of time on compared to her other hobbies. It might not even be her though the labelling seems pretty authentic.

>>4974
her last post was a link to it on tumblr, so its confirmed to be her. she probably makes more art than she posts

Does anyone know what her final lastfm username was before she stopped using it? She had changed it a few times

>>5087
hystericalbody

>>4974
>I wonder what drove her to wanna monetize her art.
Wild guess is that she's too personally insecure to make an onlyfans.

>>5092
Pretty wild yeah cause I doubt that's in her nature.

>>5092
shes anti porn so shed never do that anyway. she probably got asked for prints, most good artists on the internet do

>>5092
it makes no sense that she would make an onlyfans. it goes against her every value and she legitimately hates all of us. and nothing about her screams sexual imo

>>5094
If she got asked she'd sell it privately or through tumblr

>>5096
doing it through a website means not having to directly deal with customers which is probably what she wants to avoid the most. plus avoiding giving out her address

I had a dream I was in her apartment stealing her things and when I looked in the mirror I realized I became her… what does it mean

>>5116
I had a dream where she either messaged me or made a post on tumblr that she fingered herself to Bladee. I don't even know what to think about it

>>5118
she is following sematary on bandcamp so maybe she really does want to get dicked by soundcloud rappers

>>5148
we all know what she really wants is a hypnagogic pop daddy

>>4427
She fucked niggers.

>>5172
no one wants to hear your fantasy. she doesnt even have black friends

>>5173
Lol seethe more coalburner

>>5148
sematary and ghost mountain used to follower her on instagram, so she probably already got dicked by them.

>>5186
>sematary
>judging by his hair he doesn't know what shower is
>his entire backyard is littered with cig butts, doesn't even bother cleaning his ashtray
>smoked 3 cigarettes in 20 minutes during his latest instagram live
Imagine the smell, isn't Ken into perfume and smelling nice and all that stuff?

>>5199
yeah there's no way she's attracted to them. she was commissioned by both of them like 2 years ago for art and they live across the country from her. theyre also too young for her probably

I wonder what she does all day

>>5214
Id answer you but I dont know what any normal person does all day lol.
My wild guess is she sleeps, eats food, talks with other people, and consumes mainstream media.

>>5215
>consumes mainstream media
she's literally a communist

>>5200
>"she was commissioned by both of them like 2 years ago for art"

does anyone have a picture of that commissioned piece by any chance?

>>5216
Yeah like that makes any difference.
"Communist" just means someone who refuses to work and wants others to pay for their shit.
For a "communist", her bedroom walls sure are filled with consumerism.

>>5219
I wonder if Ken would be easy to manipulate. idk she strikes me as naive despite being “booksmart”

>>5221
Not him but I would be easily manipulated by her. I want her to give me stockholm syndrome T_T

>>5221
the last few years probably wised her up

>>5218
Marx: workers of the world, unite!
>anon: communists are lazy cunts

I think I've spotted the idiot

>>5232
Intentions don't always corelate with outcome you shit-brain. People who call themselves anti-fascist can be fascists too.

>>5233
what do intentions have anything to do with it, you fucking dipshit? communism is literally the ideology of the proletariat (people who have pretty much nothing but their offspring, so they have to sell their work in order to survive) against owners (people who pay other people to work for them). you can't have communism without workers, you imbecile. but I understand you must be an amerimutt, so you're politically illiterate by definition.

your ignorance aside, Ken is definitely very image-conscious for someone who openly criticizes the capitalistic spectacle, as is evident from her kinderwhore / soft grunge aesthetic, which is very fashionable nowadays

>>5235
although, now that I think about it, her style might be closer to that of an art-hoe granny

>>5235
I'm saying that the philosophical underpinnings of communism don't necessarily reflect what people who identify as "communists" actually believe or act out. I called you a shit-brain because you'd have to assume otherwise for your dig at the person who said "communists are lazy cunts" to make sense.

>what do intentions have anything to do with it, you fucking dipshit?
You admit to not even grasping my argument but go on and criticize it anyways. No brains, only shit.

>>5238
Dude dont bother arguing with a retard commie. He's just looking for an argument, he doesnt care about discussing points.
Further proof that anyone under the flag of communism is an insufferable smug prick.

>>4926
I think she's beautiful, interesting and quite smart. She reminds me quite a lot of myself. I'm autistic; I like ""pretentious"" music and films and I think almost all normie girl are insufferable, boring and strange. I also feel really uncomfortable smiling while taking a picture of myself. It's okay if you don't care about her, but there are definitely reasons behind people thinking she's amazing

>>5238
since you're the smartest guy in the room I hope you realize that your whole argument revolving around intentions is based on the attempt to make a groundless, sweeping generalization about what you consider to be the stereotypical communist personality. you can make nothing but assumptions (i.e. preconceived opinions) about intentions, something that cannot be argued about because is not provable, that's why your argument is shit. I, on the other hand, was arguing about what the communist ideology actually says, something that is there for all to see and that destroys that tiny stupid post, unless you want to think that most of the people who have embraced the ideology that was conceived for them aren't really people who work, which would be unadultered bullshit sistematically disproven by history. in fact, most communists are proud to be workers, since that's their political identity. do posers exist? of course, and that's true for every political or cultural identity. that doesn't make that definition of 'communist' ("Communist just means someone who refuses to work and wants others to pay for their shit.") less stereotypical, biased and dumb. btw, I'm not even a communist, I just can't stand idiots who don't know shit about what they're talking about.

>>5245
>since you're the smartest guy in the room I hope you realize that your whole argument revolving around intentions is based on the attempt to make a groundless, sweeping generalization about what you consider to be the stereotypical communist personality

There you go again, presuming other people's intent without regard for context. Anon posted "commie whore.jpg" and defined "communist" in an overtly tongue in cheek way.

For this obvious shitpost to have been "sistematically disproven by history" you'd have to believe that this is their literal definition of what a true communist is when clearly they just meant "insufferable people who identify as communists" (see image). That's why this has nothing to do with what the communist ideology "actually says" and why you don't get to call him an idiot while being so presumptuous yourself.

Like I said, it was a shitpost and hyperbole's a pretty common device around these parts (in case you weren't aware). It being a stereotype would mean you'd have to assume they can't distinguish what they're making fun of and the real thing and you simply don't know.

>I think I've spotted the idiot
WOW YEAH MAN THAT'S A SICK BURN!!! YOU REALLY DUNKED ON THAT KID'S DECONSTRUCTION OF THE AVERAGE COMMUNIST ENJOYER MEME. BET HE (OR SHE!) WON'T GET SO MUCH AS A B MINUS ON THIS TERM'S POLITICAL SCIENCE PAPER!!!

>>5246
The last bit was an example of hyperbole. There is actual shit in your brain though (it's not a joke).

>>5199
Women always do the opposite of what they say. Look at their actions, not their words. Additionally, remember that women break rules for chads

llmao @ this thread. retards

>>5214
listens to music even when she's doing something else

>>5254
you're in here with us anon

>>5219
she’s so greasy

>>5276
female detected. why do you dedicate so much time to hating on egirls on this board? you’re in other threads too. i suspect you’re another girl.
kennedi is cute and anyone gets greasy hair after a long day when you’re busy. i guess you spend all your day hating on other girls in your room so you wouldnt know

>>5278
I've noticed that too. You can tell its a woman from the weak and vague insults. "greasy" is how a woman would insult someone. It's not something direct, it's a general display of social disapproval.
It's fascinating how women are so unoriginal and stupid that you can detect them just by typing style.
This roastie must be very insecure and got triggered that men are giving another woman attention.

>>5279
topkek. thanks for the quality post anon

Boring ass thread

>>5244
Its official, we found the most cringeworthy person on this site

>>5319
>I think she's beautiful, interesting and quite smart. She reminds me quite a lot of myself
it's all in that first sentence. haughty af, as many autists

>>5242
Any intelligent person understands why communism doesnt work. Ken types verbose bullshit and throws around unneccessary metaphors to build this pretentious "not like other girls" persona. When tards cant understand thesaurus overuse they think its that shes smart and her opinions must be correct. Guy defending communism doesnt even know what it is other than "Ken likes it so it must be right"

>>5322
You are absolutely correct, but it was not necessary to bring up the topic again as we finally had gotten the commie retard to shut the fuck up

Kennedi takes massive shits it has been confirmed by multiple sources

She really attracts the worst autists. On one side you have the obsessive simps who want to fuck her eyesockets, on the other you have the obsessive "haters" who go out of their way to say how bad communism is every day in this thread while she still lives rent free in their minds. As if anyone cares about some gay ass ideology arguments in here of all places. All of you have terminal autism. I would also wipe all of my social media if the only people orbiting me were tumblr girls and low functioning autists.

Is it true that she had cancer

>>5339
She never had cancer this thread is a dumpster fire

>>5330
Trying to take a moral high ground while discussing whores on this shithole board like the rest of us makes you the lowest tier autist

Can someone explain how kennedi is not intelligent? I don’t think she uses a thesaurus, she just reads a lot

>>5342

>she just reads a lot

you answered your own question. this is why only people with a low level vocabulary think she's intelligent. big words hard, reading hard.

>>5343
you think a retard or even someone of average intelligence could read and understand the shit she does? i don't even like her but saying otherwise just makes you look dumb

>>5323
talking about me? you didn't shut me up, I just stopped caring. in fact I didn't even read your replies. sorry to have spoiled your self-fellatio :)

>>5344
the stuff she reads *is* hard, period. since many of you seem to have lots of time on your hand, what you should be asking yourself is if she actually understands what she reads or if she parrots it but, in order to answer that question, you should know and understand precisely the same complicated stuff and, needless to say, you'd be soon very much out of your depth, you little hydrocephaluses.

>>5344
an adult of average intelligence who lives in a first world country and speaks english as a first language is able to understand. unless its only that you dont get the references in her ideologic ramblings due to not having read whats being referenced. read up if you want to realize for yourself that nothing she says is as profound as a few orbiters are making it out to be. shes exactly what every other self-contradicting 22 y/o obsessed with theory is. but someone who can't understand the perfume reviews or her other casual discussions is genuinely retarded, yes

>>5342
If she were truly intelligent, she'd know that there are more efficient ways of receiving information than reading. The whole idea that smart people read books is outdated.

>>5362
Additionally, if she were intelligent she wouldnt be a stupid communist in the first place. She's just doing the woman thing of blindly parroting what she sees and has been told, without actually understanding it or thinking for herself.
I'd like to see her explain what her communist utopia would do to people who just refuse to work.

>>5342
>>5363
You don't have to deal exclusively in absolutes. If you stop, people who know how to think might start taking you seriously (right or wrong)

>>5362
>you dont have to read to be smart
> people who read are dumb, there are more efficient ways to learn bro
t. every brainlet who thinks they're smart for watching YouTube videos and listening to podcasts ever
enjoy your school of life vids

>>5368
I'm a different anon but I think their main point was that it's illogical to think "oh this person reads books so they're smart".

>>5372
The "person" youre replying to has room temperature IQ (celsius) because 1. she has zero reading comprehension, and 2. shes just looking for any excuse to argue, to the point of putting words in others' mouths. >>5279 was right, it easy to identify them.

Why is she obsessed with perfume?
Wtf?

>>5389
My guess is that at one point she met a hot guy who had nice perfume and she remembered it.

>>5390
thats retarded. men dont even wear perfume and that wouldnt be enough to trigger a love for it

>>5388
It gives her purpose in her life since she doesn’t have much else to look forward to. Same with her obsession with obscure things and Marxism

>>5389
It's not weird. It's beautiful and interesting.

>>5396
>she doesn’t have much else to look forward to.
I would have agreed with this before the past year. She actually has a social life and seemingly goes on road trips and goes to concerts all the time now with friends. It's honestly hard to not feel a little betrayed even though Ive never known her and I couldnt have expected her to stay a shut-in neet forever. Anyway I really dont think the perfume obsession is anything more than her just being fascinated by it as an art.

>>5395
Perfume, cologne, same shit, retard. And you're underestimating the monumental shit a woman can do for a chad.

>>5398
Im not the guy youre replying to, but road trips, traveling, and concerts, are all "basic bitch" tier hobbies. As in, things dumb women do just "to do". They're not really passionate about it, they're just doing it because they see other women do it and figure that's what they're "supposed" to do.

>>5400
Wait, what? Are you serious? I get what you mean by the basic bitch thing but it's not that deep is it? It's fun to explore new places and go to concerts. These aren't female hobbies. They're almost universally enjoyed experiences that have been around since the beginning of civilization. Idk, I'm still kinda bitter my image of her as the shut in is shattered but I would be lying if I said I wasnt jealous. I really fucking miss having irl friends I could actually do things with and have fun with no matter what we did. When you have friends it becomes fun to do shit just for the sake of it.

>>5400
Is she really getting crucified for having fun and having a life now? Do you want her to just sit inside all day reading books and being miserable, isolated with no friends? Seems like the thought of ken having a normal happy life ruins the pure virgin shy girl image people project onto her, no wonder she attracts abusers (not that that’s her fault)

>>5406
Yeah, she simply became normie. Tons of friends now, successful dating life. No longer easy to picture her as attainable. It's great that she'll no longer attract the abusive people who put her on a pedestal for being their image of some child-looking virginal goddess. She wears short skirts now, thigh highs, just a normal age 22 woman. Lost the pure shy girl image, but for her own sake it's for the best. All these girls grow up eventually. They change and leave.

>>5397

>perfume is beautiful and interesting

Can this anon who said they're a 15 year old girl obsessed with Ken because she's "so beautiful and interesting" just get off this fucking site. If this isn't the 15 year old anon then get off this site too but also neck yourself because it's too late.

>>5401
>it's not that deep is it?
It is. You gotta understand that women think very differently than men do.
When men go to a concert or something, they're generally doing it to have a good time and all that stuff.
When women go, the activity itself is secondary. To them, what matters is other more retarded things like taking pictures of themselves AT the concert, how many hot guys she can meet at the concert, and trying to convince herself that she's totally a fun and exciting person.
You see this phenomena a lot with "gamer girls". Notice how they spend zero time actually discussing videogames, and TONS of time and effort into the IDEA of being a "gamer". Lots of pink, lots of accessories, lots of pictures of her battlestation, lots of pictures of herself gaming. Like I said above, the activity itself is irrelevant and secondary to other things.
Travelling, for women, is literally just about broadcasting to everyone how rich and exciting and "cultured" she is, all the while scouting some foreign cock. Notice how women ALWAYS broadcast their travel destinations on social media. They cant control themselves, they need to tell everyone, or else they wouldnt have any reason to travel.
>I'm still kinda bitter my image of her as the shut in is shattered
I feel bad about bursting your bubble, but the truth is that all women are extroverted, and the only thing holding them back is their mental retardation. For example, a woman very insecure about her looks will stay home because shes ashamed that shes ugly and people outside will "judge" her (even if nobody really cares). It's not a personality thing for them. If she was hot, she would be extremely outgoing.
It's important that you face the truth, else you'll just get hurt again in the future.

Take a look at this video. Notice all the women indulging in narcissism and having their picture taken. You think they give a shit about the music? Fuck no. They literally only went there to get pictures and to post on social media later. It is extremely pathetic but it's the truth.

>>5406
Woman spotted. As mentioned in >>5279, women are retarded, unoriginal, and just copy each other's retarded typing styles. Proof:
1. first instinct is to defend other woman
>"Is she really getting crucified"
2. Exaggerating what the other person said in order to get more victim points.
>having fun and having a life now
3. Minimizing the standard of the person she's defending so she seems like more of a victim.
4. Putting words in people's mouths.
5. Purposefully misunderstanding what was said.
6. Women only deal in extremes. They do not understand anything other than you hating someone or loving them. To women there is no inbetween
>"Do you want her to just sit inside all day reading books and being miserable, isolated with no friends"
7. Strawman of what was said.
8. Dealing in absolutes, again.
9. Minimizing the standard of the other person so she seems like more of a victim, again.
>"the thought of ken having a normal happy life ruins the pure virgin shy girl image people project onto her"
10. Strawman of what was said, again
11. Dealing in absolutes again. This woman doesnt understand theres a middle ground between extreme extrovert and extreme shy introvert
12. One insult: Women can only see the world in the lens of sex, so the only insults women can come up with are related to sex, hence her using the "virgin" comment. Surprised she didnt use any more "generic woman shaming terms". Women literally only have one insult.
13. Weak insults: Women are weak and cant just come out and say shit like "youre all a bunch of virgins" so she has to subtly imply that. What a fucking loser she is.
>"no wonder she attracts abusers (not that that’s her fault)"
14. Women are allergic to responsibility, so of course nothing is ever a womans fault. Notice how she does this twice here. Both the "attracts abusers" (ie, not that she agrees to date them, instead the evil men pursue HER), and the part in parenthesis. This woman is especially stupid so she feels the need to mention the same thing twice.
15. Weak insult: Again the implied "abuser" insult. She's a retarded woman so she cant outright say "you guys are fucked up for harrassing her", no she has to do some weak ass implication.
16. Deflected responsibility: Nobody here "abused" Ken. This woman likely was in one bad relationship once in her life, and now her go-to insult is "abuser", because women are so fucking narcissistic that they can only insult others based on themselves. It's pure projection. Considering her attitude, I wouldnt be surprised SHE was the abuser in the relationship.

You are mega retarded and mentally ill, as well as stupid. My guess is you either had one bad relationship with one man, and now you hate all men, OR you were abused\molested at some point, and now have some mental retardation (on top of the normal kind from just being a woman). Please remember that you're extremely unlikable and completely insufferable. Everyone around you in real life is barely tolerating your presence to be polite. Any inkling of affection you receive is completely fake. No one could ever like an obnoxious person like you.
Go wash your roast beef pussy, I can smell your flaps from here.

>>5412
Woman spotted again. Today's lesson is about projection. Women project all the time, Most of what women say is projection, especially when theyre trying to attack or defend other people. Here are a few examples.
>abusive
Again with the "abusive". More proof her "personality detector" failed and she dated abusive guys. Shit attracts shit. She now uses "abusive" as her go-to insult to anyone she disagrees with.
>their image of some child-looking virginal goddess
Pure projection. I deduce that this woman is 30-35 and very bitter that her youthful days are over. That's why she's defending the woman younger than herself so adamantly.
But make no mistake, she's not defending her out of virtue, she's projecting HERSELF into ken's shoes. That's also why she takes so much offense to anyone criticizing Ken. She's a retarded woman so she thinks people are attacking her, herself.
By the "virginal" comment, you can also guess this woman is a whore with a HUGE N-count. Easily in the double digits. That's why she attacks virginity and uses it as a strawman.
And again an implied insult with the "child-looking" part.
You guys see how women type? It's just the same phenomena over and over again. Projection, weak insults, narcissism, strawmen, etc.
>She wears short skirts now, thigh highs, just a normal age 22 woman.
This woman is very insecure about how much of a slut she is, so she's trying to normalize sluts' clothing. That way, she can wear slutty clothing and not feel bad because she thinks it's "normal".
You see, women are weak and cant think for themselves, so instead of just wearing clothes and moving on, they have to go on with this retarded "normalize X" thing, to get the group's approval, to only THEN wear the clothes without guilt. Remember, women operate with HEAVY group mentality, groupthink, hivemind, etc.
>Lost the pure shy girl image, but for her own sake it's for the best
Implied insult. Something like "Heh, she's too good for all those guys who dont want her anymore". Again not only is this a weak insult, but it's also an insult via the lens of social status. Women hardcore obsess over social status, which is incredibly stupid, but since we're talking about women, mentioning that is redundant.
>attainable
Oh almost forgot this one. This is a word that bitter women use all the time. The basic translation is that she's bitter that the chads around her are "unattainable" to her. This left a deep mark in her stupid mind, so now she projects the concept of "unattainable" as an insult towards others.
Any man reading this instantly understands the logistics of the inability to realistically meet up with an egirl, so they're not even considering attainability. I doubt a woman would understand this thought process though.

>>5413
Yeah no fucking kidding dude. These kinds of people are so fucking annoying and they always shit up every community they're in. They absolutely refuse to just be a normal person, holy fuck.

>>5429
>>5431
>>5433
nice blog fren but respectfuflly what the fuck?

>>5429
>>5431
>>5433
take your meds

>>5429
Damn dude if you hate women and think they’re inferior then why are you so obsessed with her? Go ahead and date men if you hate women so much and view them as subhuman. Weirdos will jerk off to porn all day and obsess over women like Ken and then go on weird rants about despite hating them so much kek. Weird thread

>>5440
yeah honestly idk why she gets this kind of sexually frustrated hate so much its awkawrd to see

>>5435
I am very tired of people like that always spreading their filth wherever they go. They cant just be a normal person, or even just keep quiet. They have to ruin it for everyone around them, it's fucking annoying and I'd like them to stop.

>>5440
>>5441
Bruh the woman tried to samefag.

>>5444
im the second post you replied to, not a samefag its just weird how theres basically no one who feels normal or neutral about ken. its always some extreme and it feels weird compared to most orbiting

>>5443
yeah but why air that out here? she hasnt even been posting about any traveling or concerts or posting pics of it

She finally posted something on her tumblr, a blog she made where she will be writing essays on perfume. You guys better not ruin this, in fact just posting it here would risk her deleting it. She’s truly fallen down the rabbit hole of perfume and it’s beautiful. I can’t believe what I’m reading, her prose is absolutely gorgeous

>>5498
Your post made me laugh so hard, I can't stop aaah

>>5500
Why does everyone make fun of me the second I even allude to the fact that ken is intelligent and a good person

>>5501
It's well written. I was surprised especially because it wasn't just about perfume. Whipping out biblical hermeneutics and philosophy and shit

>>5501
It's not unique to ken. Calling any e-girl intelligent or a good person will get you nothing but people calling you a retarded simp regardless of if it's true or not. You've seen how people react to even the most innocent things. You should know better

>>5503
ok but what other e-girl talks about philosophy the way she does? i don't want anything from her. thinking of her as good doesn't make me a simp, and even if it did, there is nothing wrong with that

>>5504
liking philosophy doesn't make someone a good or smart person.

>>5501
She's communist therefore she is not a good person, so stop idealizing her simp.

worst waifu

>>5508
she's communist, she's definitely not stalinist or marxist-leninist. she leans towards postmodern critical theory, which is heterodox, anti-authoritarian, and consists mainly of french intellectuals and philosophers, but not exclusively. I wouldn't expect you to care enough to know the difference, though.

>>5512
are you >>5504 ? and are you the 15 year old girl or just a guy really into her and into philosophy

communism is based but aside from the purely genocidal sort ken represents its worst adherents, pie in the sky fucking theorycel dreamers, which is why most people (even those who stand to gain from it) hate modern leftism

>>5514
go back to twitter commie youre no better than her kek

>>5504
I found her post a little annoying and pretentious tbh, but if you that's your thing, suit yourself.
imo you don't need to be so baroque or constantly rely on quotations and name-dropping if you have something significant to say, it looks like showing off. I think you might be easily impressed just because you're not acquainted with most of the things she talks about and because she knows how to "dress up" her interests in an aesthetically cool and appealing way, but all that glitters is not gold. for me, that's exactly what makes me slightly skeptical and puts me off a bit, because it looks quite inconsistent with her stated principles. sure, that's not really important, as she can do as she likes, but I'd like to see some more nuance in the way people see her, or anyone really, instead of everything being reduced to haters versus simps.

>>5513
not >>5504
into philosophy
not extremely into her, as you can see here >>5516

>>5515
yeah well you can suck my hammer and show the sickle up your ass

>>5516
agree with most of what you said but a lot of what gets crticized from her is just her being kinda weird, not intentionally try hard. idk if im giving her too much benefit of the doubt but having talked to her in dms a few times a long time ago about music and philosophy it was obvious theres nothing cynical about what shes doing

>don't need to be so baroque
somehow its not very annoying from her, and thats not because i like her. it feels sincere instead of pretentious. shes very into going over the top with passion and most of the music she likes has really (kind of annoying) purple prose lyrics

>>5519
I agree she's not cynical, maybe just a tad unaware and naive, which I guess can also be endearing up to a point.
I might be overanalyzing, but part of it could be some sort of autistic trait. idk, some auties seem to be insistently looking for an identity and when they find it they stick to it up to the smallest detail, and to other people it may look contrived even if it's not.

>>5514
>pie in the sky fucking theorycel dreamers
can't blame you, nowadays marxism has been kidnapped and sterilized by middle-class social justice warriors, diembowelled and deprived of its economic, dialectical and materialistic roots, left to rot under the sun of identity politics, devoid of any revolutionary potential. reduced to a self-righteous academic exercise of some watered-down french theory, it's become another byproduct of capitalism in the form of false consciousness and fake opposition. sad ç_ç

>>5521
she went from a marxist leninist for like 6 years to a situationist.

>>5522
it took her a while but that's an improvement. at least she skipped the maoist phase, but I guess these days is not as fashionable as it was

>>5522
So she went from "everyone give me free stuff" to "nothing is my fault, blame everything on everyone around me". Yeah great improvement.

I want to point out the hilarity of a mentally ill chick who does a perfume review blog being a communist.
She's not working the fields or being actively productive for society. How many entertainers does the commune need? How many perfume review blogs are really necessary?
As usual, the biggest proponents of communism would be the first ones shot by the regime.

>>5547
>>5548
no one cares about your pent up politics

>>5547
>>5548
Lol. As >>5512 said, she's not a Stalinist. There is no back against the wall authoritarian regime she is advocating for. I'm not a communist (unlike some in this thread) but you should give reading a shot instead of ranting like a grandpa at a thanksgiving table about da gommies based on retarded failures of the 20th century that Ken thinks were stupid anyway.

>>5553
>There is no back against the wall authoritarian regime she is advocating for
That's the problem though. They always advocate for an unrealistic utopia that cant exist in reality.
Notice how they can never ever answer what they advocate doing with the people who just dont want to work. No seriously, I have never seen anyone answer that question.
The only way their ideology works is in a dissonant fantasy.

Ken is using they/them pronouns now. Wasn't expecting that from someone like her.

>>5558
nice meme

>>5558
It's really not surprising. She's mentally ill so of course she'd latch on to the trends. The egirl trend, the pronouns trend, etc. If she becomes more mentally ill there'll be talk of a mastectomy.

>>5560
>>5558
She's posted plenty about thinking non binary is stupid. She's literally a TERF lol. She's not using they/them pronouns, it's made up. Weird thing to lie about but I guess you want to stir the pot and you know how everyone reacted to Agatha becoming non binary.

>>5558
Source?

>>5563
Her letterboxd has gender neutral pronouns but it's been like that for 3 years. Thats all I can think of but it doesn't mean she's been non binary this whole time obviously.

>>5564
Hold on, what exactly do you mean by "gender neutral pronouns". You mean "they\them"?
I ask this because having any pronouns at all is a huge red flag for mental illness.

>>5566
she already has a mental illness, ocd, but you still love her

>>5566
They're not listed anywhere. Letterboxd allows users to choose what pronouns are used in their feed and the default is they/them and she never changed it. So it says "kennedi added a film to their watchlist"

>>5557
>Notice how they can never ever answer what they advocate doing with the people who just dont want to work
>>5566
>having any pronouns at all is a huge red flag for mental illness

two ready-made examples of how fucking retarded some people can be here

>>5548
>communism is when u work
Marx wanted the end of work. In 1953 Debord painted on a wall on the Rue de Seine the slogan “Ne travaillez jamais,” “Never Work.”

>>5568
Eh its still kinda retarded how she didnt change it, and that feature of the website is retarded in itself. Thanks for the explanation though.

>>5570
Once again they still cant answer it. All they can do is throw out vague insults.

>>5568
wait till you find out you have pronouns and too

>>5575
>that feature of the website is retarded in itself
so what should everyones feed default to "he," or should it be defaulted to gender neutral? one assumes everyone on the site is a guy even though half the site is women, and one youd probably call gay

>>5576
no, it's because your argument makes no sense and your question seems to suggest that you have a very confused and vague idea about what communism actually is. would you care to elaborate?

I will also clarify what seems to be a rather dumb misunderstanding which has been repeated a few times here and that might be the reason of that same question (what are communists going to do with people who don't want to work?). when communists say that they want the end of work they don't mean that they expect wealth to grow spontaneously from trees, so that they can spend their time smoking joints and playing bongos all day long. of course that kind of society won't be sustainable, human being have to work in order to survive and to make sense of their own existence. that is incredibly foolish to think I'm ashamed of having to explain it, but there you go. what they actually mean by the end of work is the end of salaried work, of exploitation, that is the need of selling your work in exchange for a salary, which is what happens when the worker is not also the owner of the means of production. now, if you don't know something as basic as that, you need a fucking education.

>>5587
lel ok ken maybe youre the one who needs "an education" since youre not in college

>>5588
maybe I don't have an education (or do I) but I have a juicy sausage between my legs, which is quite something since I'm supposed to be ken

>>5589
that’s kinda hot… dress up as ken for us

>>5589
post hog

>>5585
It's piss easy. Do the same thing every other website has been doing since the 80s.
When creating an account, have an option for male or female. Then use those pronouns.
I'll even extend an olive branch: If anyone personally doesnt care or wants their genitals a secret or something, just pick one at random, or pick a male one.

>>5587
>but there you go. what they actually mean by the end of work is the end of salaried work, of exploitation
In that case, what you really want isnt communism, it's the same capitalism, but with less corruption and a better overall state of living for the worker. You'd get a lot more supporters if you just said that instead of bringing up communism. I'm pretty sure everyone wants a better work situation.
>the need of selling your work in exchange for a salary
So how exactly would one's work be rewarded, if not by salary? Would a guy in a factory that makes furniture be payed in furniture?

>>5596
communism = no commodities, no wage labor, no currency. early stages would have labor vouchers instead of currency payments and itd be phased out as everyones needs were truly met. its not "the same as capitalism" because literally no capital would be accumulated

>>5599
what exactly passes for 'needs' here; will i ever get to eat a banana again if i live in iceland

>>5596
so I was right when I assumed that you don't know anything about communism (or capitalism, for that matter). nothing wrong with that, but if you want have some informed opinion you need to get the information before the opinion. I can't explain the whole marxist doctrine on a stupid board, plus I'm not even an expert myself.
>>5596 has already succinctly and partially answered, but I suggest for you to look up Marx's theory of value, it'll answers to some of your questions in detail and give you a broader perspective on the fact that salaried work is not and has not been the only form of work that's ever existed. see you at the demo, comrade!

>>5608
wrong reference, I meant that >>5599 has already answered in part

>>5512
all communists say the same thing, but communism can only be applied with extreme violence.

>>4971
Y'know what i might get one of these some day

>>5610
Your mistake is thinking that communism can be "applied."

Marx:
>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

You're too fixated on Stalin and Co.

>>5599
>everyones needs were truly met
If everyone's needs are met, then what exactly is stopping people from just not working? Again, there's the same problem you're not addressing.

>>5608
Why is it that leftists can never actually have a discussion? You have the chance to convince people to your viewpoint and all you can do is deflect and go "educate yourself".
The guy asked a simple question: What should a communist society do to people who just dont want to work. All you've done is refuse to answer him and told him to go read a book.

>>5599
>>5626
Hey here's another one you wont answer: What if someone wants something beyond their "needs"? What if I want gold diamond ring, or a banana in Iceland like that other guy said. How can I acquire one of those in communism?
Surely it's not fair for the commune to just give one of those to me and not everyone else.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0548PeUEuJAZxBLNaaZdJR
bros... 50 songs. we're being spoiled

>>5640
i bet she’s going to a halloween party

>>5641
kek thatll be a very strange party

>>5640
This sucks.

>>5627
I did answer by asking to elaborate what he meant, since he seemed to imply that in a communist society everybody should have to work (?). in order to have a discussion there has to be a basic understanding of the matter by both sides, something which is clearly lacking here, that's why I suggested that the guy should do a little preliminary research. I am not your tutor, I don't have to explain anything you can easily learn yourself by a google search.
If there's not that basic level I mentioned, the discussion becomes pointless and revolving around preposterous, childish questions like this >>5628 or the one about lazy people, which is a waste of everybody's time. You can keep throwing poop around pretending you're having a sensible argument, that doesn't mean I should play along or be interested in it.

>>5645
i stopped arguing with rightoids who claim to read but ask the same 10000 questions once i realized 99% of what they ask is answered by the first chapter of capital vol 1. and critique of the gotha programme. they dont read anything and none of the answers you give will do anything. they just move the goalpost and keep strawmanning with dead dictators no one even likes except internet autists.

marx failed to account for banana.

let’s pray she posts a halloween costume selfie

>>5640
Thank you brother I will listen to those songs thinking about Ken, for some reason I miss her you damn communist bich

>>5645
>should do a little preliminary research. I am not your tutor, I don't have to explain anything you can easily learn yourself
Again with the "educate yourself"
>childish questions like this >>5628 or the one about lazy people, which is a waste of everybody's time
And again refusing to answer.
This is why nobody takes communists seriously, and why everyone mocks them online. You think everyone should already be familiar with your point of view, and you absolutely refuse to just explain yourself. ANY intelligent person can summarize their argument in a couple short sentences, but communists never seem to be able to do that. It's always "educate yourself" or "no that's not MY definition of communism so I win".
The only way for a communist to win an argument is if it's with someone who already agrees with them.
Last chance: What does a communist society do if someone refuses to work?

>>5653
Different anon here. They're not entertaining you because your questions seem absurd and baity and honestly seem obvious to anyone who's slightly familiar with Marxism. It also requires far more effort to answer questions that you're asking than it takes to ask them. I'll go ahead against my better judgment as a gesture of good faith.

People are already lazy and don't work under capitalism. Have you ever worked in an office? Those dingy buildings are filled to the brim with people who do *maybe* 2-3 hours of actual work in a whole day. Factors like reciprocity with your community and social obligation are much more motivating than simply having to do the absolute bare minimum to not be fired.

A lot, if not most by this point, of work in the first world is completely pointless and only serves to continue an endless cycle of capital. Advertising jobs, data analysts, accountants, office clerks, schedulers, managers, salesmen, etc. Believe it or not, the vast majority of jobs aren't actually needed. The fact that there is an "unemployment problem" is indicative of this. Despite mass unemployment striking the US every few years, the world has always continued to spin and only takes a hit if there is a mass strike by people whose jobs actually matter. The fact that there are so many people unemployed yet society still functions as normal should be a GOOD thing but instead is considered bad—Why? Because people need money from a job to survive. Thus tons of "bullshit jobs" are created.

>but what if someone is perfectly able to work and simply refuses to
Well, what happens to those people under capitalism, a system in which you have to work to get money to get food to survive? They get assistance from friends, family, neighbors—the community.

>>5657
(continued)

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" was stated by Marx in the Critique of the Gotha Programme (a rather short writing which scathingly criticized a Social Democrat party in Germany). It's taken out of context and misrepresents the actual contents of the text. This particular quote is only a sliver of what Marx said, and it refers explicitly to the so-called "higher phase" of communism, long after any remnants of capital have been phased out.
"To each according to his contribution" was put forth as the basis for a "lower phase" of communist society, directly following a transition from capitalism.

Regarding the "lower phase," Marx states that "the individual receives from society exactly what he gives to it" and advocates for remuneration through labor vouchers instead of money, noting also that collective collaboration on labor with no surplus value extraction would also mean that one's labor put forth would directly benefit them and their peers instead of a hoarding higher-up.
>The means of production are no longer the private property of individuals. The means of production belong to the whole of society. Every member of society, performing a certain part of the socially-necessary work, receives a certificate from society to the effect that he has done a certain amount of work. And with this certificate he receives from the public store of consumer goods a corresponding quantity of products. After a deduction is made of the amount of labor which goes to the public fund, every worker, therefore, receives from society as much as he has given to it.

>In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!

Marx explained his belief that, in such a society, each person would be motivated to work for the good of society despite the absence of a social mechanism compelling them to work, because work would have become a pleasurable and creative activity instead of something which exists only to make some greedy bastard's pockets fatter, like what happens with wage labor.

Communism has no blueprint or guided path to installation. Time and time again, Marx stated that communism is a movement to abolish the present state of things. Having witnessed the world's changes triggered by industrial revolution, he understood that material conditions change and whatever he wrote on actually bringing about communism would be rendered totally irrelevant down the line. So really, communism is not a question of "what will it be like" rather than "what will it NOT be like?"

Marx was first and foremost a philosopher with a deep interest in breaking down economics and dispelling myths. The key is that he was anti-economy in general. He saw capitalism as unsustainable and constantly requiring governmental intervention simply to keep itself afloat and that, naturally, it would bring about its own demise, either with the help of people or not.

>>5658
Oh yeah, one last thing. It is a mistake to think of the Soviet Union in discussions about Marxism proper. Marx would have been disgusted by the USSR after Lenin's death, and realistically even during his rule. No proper Marxist thinks the USSR or any other "communist state" achieved communism. They've all retained the value-form and had generalized commodity production, not to mention been straight-up retarded most of the time. The truth is that socialism appeals to people so the term and vaguely related ideas (Which end up being more social democracy which Marx hated) have been used as a way to quickly garner support with large, poor, often agrarian populations. Even India's constitution says they're socialist lol.

>>5657
>your questions seem absurd and baity
No, it's a genuine question, and IMO a genuine concern. If the commune supposedly takes care of people, the food and resources have to come from somewhere, right? So it might be a problem if people take from the community without contributing an equal or higher amount. Sounds like a legitimate issue, no?
>It also requires far more effort to answer questions that you're asking
To be fair, I've made like 5 posts asking for an answer, plus the probably dozens of times I've asked this throughout the years, with little to no answer.
>Well, what happens to those people under capitalism, a system in which you have to work to get money to get food to survive? They get assistance from friends, family, neighbors—the community.
But the issue is that THOSE people need to work in order to have the extra resources to help others out. Which then brings up other issues.
How does one get extra resources? From extra work? So one's rewards for work are based on the effort, time, or skill involved? Also, what's the motivation to help someone out if they're just gonna continue to be lazy, ie why work to feed someone else's laziness. In fact, why work yourself if others will take care of you?
If someone's needs are met, what exactly is motivating them to be productive in life? Pure good will?
See what I mean? This raises other issues.

>>5658
>in such a society, each person would be motivated to work for the good of society despite the absence of a social mechanism compelling them to work
So, to put it simply, you're assuming and betting on people being automatically motivated to work, due to good work conditions.
Isnt that rather naive though?
I mean, seriously, how many of those people actually exist? That'd be like 1% of the population, 5% tops. Even with good conditions, there's gonna be tons of people who just dont give a fuck and will want to do zero work. And if the commune takes care of those people, those 1-5% of the motivated workers will likely lose motivation seeing as all their work is going towards feeding lazy people. Any good will would quickly go down the toilet by then, honestly.
Not to mention, the logistics themselves of a small amount of motivated people actually managing to support everyone, even at full power.
You really think people would be happy to work if they didnt have the threat of starvation and homelessness over their heads? I dont think most people are strong or intelligent enough for that.

>>5667
Oh and I'd also like to hear how you'd get a sewer cleaner or an similarly unpleasant job to be "motivated to work for the good of society".

>>5667
>>5668
I'm the anon who doesn't want to explain things to you, and for a good reason, judging from your replies. out of compassion for the poor devil who made the effort of humoring you, I'll just say a couple of things, not in the false hope of enlightening you, but just to expose the laughable quality of your reasoning.

#1
>there's gonna be tons of people who just dont give a fuck and will want to do zero work
you're vastly underestimating the importance of social pressure. in any kind of society, people mostly behave according to the rules because one of the main drives for individual behavior is the need of acceptance and belonging. most people are perfectly happy when this basic need is fulfilled. this is true regardless of the economic system, so your objection is completely futile. maybe you didn't think about this factor because you have sociopathic tendencies, I don't know.

#2:
>how you'd get a sewer cleaner or an similarly unpleasant job to be "motivated to work for the good of society"
you wouldn't. another wrong assumption on your part: you seem to believe that what communists want is a perfect society that will be devoid of any problem and conflict, where everybody does only what they want and what makes them happy. that simply isn't true. a different social system entails different problems and humanity will never live in the garden of Eden, no matter the circumstances. the main purpose of communism is to resolve the instrinsic contradictions of capitalism, not because this would lead to heaven on earth, but because communists believe that overall this would offer a better chance of a dignified, gratifying and peaceful existence to most people, and not just to a greedy elite. the key words in my last sentence are 'overall', 'chance', and 'most people', which all imply some relativism.

as you can see, I'm quite able of answering and refuting what you're saying, if I decide to do so. maybe for a moment you thought you were so much smarter than those pathetic, idealistic lefties but, alas, the dream is over.

>>5675
not that anon but you're typing a lot of words and not saying very much. at least lefties don't have to pretend to appeal to the unwashed masses anymore
again, where does sewer man enter the picture here? is he recognized for his developing sewer cleaner skills at an early age and selected like a little jedi padawan and trained for one specific purpose in life? or do you "social pressure" any old cunt into getting down there?

What do you guys think she smell like?
Judging by her perfume obsession, she must smell so fucking good...

>>5675
>you're vastly underestimating the importance of social pressure
If people are working due to social pressure, they're not WANTING to work, which is the entire point in that anon's argument. And even still, what if people are pressured and still dont want to work?
>people mostly behave according to the rules because one of the main drives for individual behavior is the need of acceptance and belonging
That's retarded. People should follow rules because that's what's correct and morally right to do. Not because of the social consequences of not following them.
>(sewer cleaner job) you wouldn't
So who cleans the sewers? Unless you have scat fetishists, nobody's going to ENJOY working as a sewer cleaner, meaning that since everyone's needs are met, nobody's going to actually want to clean sewers.
>a better chance of a dignified, gratifying and peaceful existence to most people, and not just to a greedy elite
So again what you want isnt communism, it's the same capitalism, but with better work and living conditions. Again, you'd get much more support if you just said that.
>you thought you were so much smarter than those pathetic, idealistic lefties but, alas, the dream is over.
Pure projection on your part. I literally just asked questions, you're the one trying to make things personal.

So to summarize your points:
1. People who dont want to work would be socially pressured into working. (Which isnt even guaranteed to make them work)
2. In an ideal communist society, there wouldnt be anyone to clean sewers, or do similarly difficult jobs.
Gotta say, dude. The inability to solve simple societal issues combined with the "educate yourself" and smug prick leftist attitude, isnt convincing me of communism.

Here's an example: How do we motivate people to do harder or unpleasant jobs in capitalism? You reward them more, via money.
How does capitalism deal with people who refuse to work? They simply dont get payed and thus cant buy food. This discourages laziness.
See how I answered those two very easily?

>>5677
I've noticed that too. I didnt want to bring it up but yeah, that anon isnt very good at summarizing his points.
Maybe leftists hate answering questions because it takes a lot of energy for them, since they're bad at keeping things short.

this isn't /pol/

>>5681
Assuming that in an area of millions of people (like any cityscape) there'd be no one who'd help to fix sewers is just as absurd as thinking everyone would wanna help.

>>5684
You're missing the point. Even if there are people who'd happily clean sewers, there arent enough of those to clean up everyone else's shit.

>>5675
That whole "social pressure" thing is such a woman way of thinking.
>men
>you get payed based on how you work. No work means no pay. Extra work means extra pay.
>women
>ummm... if you dont wanna work thats umm fine but ummm everyone's gonna think you're a poopyhead... umm you dont want that do you... so umm come work, it's yummy fun :)))

>>5687
Why are you being so intentionally obtuse and bringing in your gender sperging again? The other anon clearly stated that labor vouchers would be used and if you didn't work you'd simply starve. It's only assumed that this would naturally be phased out leading to the higher stage with more automation and less need for labor.

>>5688
Nothing you said in this post relates to my post. Reading comprehension.

she didnt like the new wes anderson movie bros oh no no no

>>5681
as I said:
>I'll just say a couple of things, not in the false hope of enlightening you, but just to expose the laughable quality of your reasoning

thank you for proving my point. in your reply you either didn't understand what I wrote, dumbed it down with the excuse of "summarizing" it or twisted my words to suit your perspective. ever heard of confirmation bias? I'm not going to point out where and why you did all of this in detail, so please, feel free of thinking that I'm dodging your questions.
you feel entitled to regard these things as 'simple societal issues' that can be dealt with 'very easily' simply because you're too ignorant and narrow-minded to be aware of their complexity, so you think your simplistic answers (as reducing the concept of work to a mere economical transaction) are reasonable. one has to wonder why you aren't in some extremely high position of power, where you could solve all these simple problems with your simple answers, instead of being here wasting all your wisdom with us stupid communists. maybe it's because, for instance, you clearly don't even know what social pressure is and how it is internalized, you haven't got a clue about any sociological or psychological matter. I have actually researched these fucking things, I haven't come up with a idiotic theory of society in my spare time on an image board for degenerates. so excuse me if I don't indulge any longer in this extremely productive nonsense. you accuse me of being smug? I wonder what's more arrogant, calling someone out for being out of their depth or claiming to have all the solutions to problems you haven't even begun to understand.
then again, if you could see how brainwashed by capitalistic ideology you are (one example: regarding production above the basic right to survival, which is abhorrent), you wouldn't be brainwashed, would you? you're a dangerous mix of ignorance, dishonesty and stupidity, and I don't care if you accuse me of resorting to personal attack, since you've just proved that it's not worth arguing with the likes of you, if there ever was any doubt about it. to me, the discussion ends here. so go on, you can claim victory and plant a little dollar flag on your scrotum.

>>5697
also, fuck wes anderson

>>5698
>>5699
im convinced youre either ken or a friend of hers now.

>>5700
bravo

>>5681
oh, and one more thing about your final example. you're suggesting to lure people into work by either giving them a good pay or blackmailing them (you have to work if you want to survive). guess which one of the two happens in capitalism and which one in a society where wealth is fairly distributed (which, btw, doesn't mean given away for nothing). "capitalism and communism are the same", fucking ridiculous.

>>5703
does bravo mean i was right

>>5698
>thank you for proving my point. in your reply you either didn't understand what I wrote
Like I said, leftists can only win an argument with people they already agree with. As soon as they experience any resistance, they deflect and bail on the conversation.
1. You are a mega retard.
2. You have zero ability to summarize what your arguments are.
3. You have zero reading comprehension, or you purposefully pretend to misunderstand what is said.
4. None of your stances can handle any sort of criticism. At the first most basic questions, you are unable to offer any argument and just deflect everything.
5. You are so arrogant you believe everyone should automatically agree with you without you needing to explain yourself. And youre so entitled you get offended when someone questions you.
6. Considering your economical stupidity, I bet you are bad with money. I laugh at your poverty because it is self inflicted.

>>5698
with communists like these, the revolution is surely afoot

>>5679
she does the most autistic poses

>>5709
what is the purpose of grabbing her hair like that? ive seen girls do that alot but i dont understand why. picrelated

>>5698
>>5707
Leftists live in a world where everyone they disagree with is one sarcastic comment away from crumpling into a strawmanic rage.

Gotta stay pure just to make sure
Gotta watch out who you fall for </3

Ken didn't like the new Wes Anderson movie

New thread: >>5717

Pineapples are a good source of vitamin C

>>4711
John Maus attended the January 6 rally and dinated to the republican party and Ariel Rivers said he is a trump supporter,he said he is left wing to save face lmao, there is reddit threads of his fans seething about it

>>12574
Ariel pink**