Bernd 05/26/2021 (Wed) 07:39:43 No.43795 del
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>They could have implemented the stuff next to them, or made default aliases for them, or take them out, but giving an option when the systemctl poweroff runs on the first time which would offered to create an alias at that point for later use.

But it works almost that as you said. If you have systemd as init, all classic commands are routed to systemd, so you may use any of them. Using systemctl suspend/reboot/halt/poweroff isn't required, some people don't even know about these commands but using them.

>but I can imagine some more assburger ones sperging out on such details - alienating them from the systemd project.

There are plenty of systemd-haters anyway, maybe less than few years ago, but culture still lives in. Systemd has multiple flaws of course and some hate is really understandable. Problem is that many haters don't understand what problems systemd solves (and how to solve them without systemd), so their critique often is too amateur.