Bernd
06/16/2022 (Thu) 11:42:30
No.47984
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06/16/2022 (Thu) 11:42:30
No.47984
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>>47981
It would be possible but you lower efficiency by doing that, it would get in the way of this other tasks as well. Like map reading, commanding the tank(and other tanks if he is CO), communicating to other tanks and such. Plus two sets of eyes is always better than one. It's a trade off, Western tanks focus on efficiency even at the cost of size and weight(and literal cost).
>I mostly disagree. Looking outside from open hatch is possible only in peacetime situation. Even in WW2 when periscopes and sights were primitive, combat action mostly happened with closed hatches. Commander doesn't really need hatch, he uses sight, and when hatches can be opened, it is non-combat situation when view height doesn't matter much. At least it is better to be safe in combat than see more in non-combat.
To a degree, but you have the situations in-between peace time and combat. While a tank is moving to a village or some other place it makes sense to open the hatch so you can see everything around you, see if there is anything wanting to ambush you, see where all your friendly forces are and see what the terrain is like, see if there is a ditch you are about to drive into that the driver can't see from his angle, etc. Then of course yes, once bullets start flying then he should get back in the tank(though that didn't and does not always happen).
>Gunner doesn't even need a hatch-view anyway, only to be less bored when tank is on march.
It enables him to help spot targets in above mentioned situations, same thing if there is a loader and he has a hatch. That's part of the issue I think that Russian tanks face particularly in the war we see now,I think if Russian tanks had a loader then not as many would have been ambushed because there would have been another set of eyes. But again, it's a trade off.
I think that we may see two man tanks or automated tanks but that is if they decide that trade off is worth it. If they decide that having fewer or no people in a tank to risk is worth having it so that tank might be slightly less efficient or if they decide they want a bigger gun and better autoloader like you say or if they want to send unmanned tanks to places like Ukraine so Germany does not have to train the Ukrainians to operate them or sent their own forces to.
It would be possible but you lower efficiency by doing that, it would get in the way of this other tasks as well. Like map reading, commanding the tank(and other tanks if he is CO), communicating to other tanks and such. Plus two sets of eyes is always better than one. It's a trade off, Western tanks focus on efficiency even at the cost of size and weight(and literal cost).
>I mostly disagree. Looking outside from open hatch is possible only in peacetime situation. Even in WW2 when periscopes and sights were primitive, combat action mostly happened with closed hatches. Commander doesn't really need hatch, he uses sight, and when hatches can be opened, it is non-combat situation when view height doesn't matter much. At least it is better to be safe in combat than see more in non-combat.
To a degree, but you have the situations in-between peace time and combat. While a tank is moving to a village or some other place it makes sense to open the hatch so you can see everything around you, see if there is anything wanting to ambush you, see where all your friendly forces are and see what the terrain is like, see if there is a ditch you are about to drive into that the driver can't see from his angle, etc. Then of course yes, once bullets start flying then he should get back in the tank(though that didn't and does not always happen).
>Gunner doesn't even need a hatch-view anyway, only to be less bored when tank is on march.
It enables him to help spot targets in above mentioned situations, same thing if there is a loader and he has a hatch. That's part of the issue I think that Russian tanks face particularly in the war we see now,I think if Russian tanks had a loader then not as many would have been ambushed because there would have been another set of eyes. But again, it's a trade off.
I think that we may see two man tanks or automated tanks but that is if they decide that trade off is worth it. If they decide that having fewer or no people in a tank to risk is worth having it so that tank might be slightly less efficient or if they decide they want a bigger gun and better autoloader like you say or if they want to send unmanned tanks to places like Ukraine so Germany does not have to train the Ukrainians to operate them or sent their own forces to.