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Poolitics serial dicksucktion - Frau Merkel Edition Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:28:02 [Preview] No. 17063
Here a nice thread the discuss seriously politics, the Catalonia thread is "File not found". Of course not just Merkel and the like can be topics here but anything really which fits, as usual.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:48:42 [Preview] No.17065 del
The EU is too corrupt and needs to be broken apart the same way the USSR was (and deserved to be). Merkel is just another minion beholden to an unelected bureaucracy which is hell-bent on destabilizing their subjugated nation states.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 16:53:46 [Preview] No.17067 del
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Angela Merkel ist ein polnischer jude
Es ist nichts falsch mit polnischen menschen
juden sind abschaum
Sie ist nicht Deutsch
Angela Merkel will das deutsche Volk verdrangen
Sie sind wahnhaft wenn Sie nicht sehen können
Oder ist ihr gehirn bereits kompromittiert?
Angela Merkel is a polish jew
There's nothing wrong with polish people
jews are scum
She is not German
Merkel wants to displace the German people
Or is your brain already compromised?

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 17:25:46 [Preview] No.17069 del
Some form of close cooperation of European states are absolutely necessary. All alone not one of the EU members can compete with large economical and military powers of the world. But can be EU reformed? I dunno but much change in the way of thinking of the people needs.

Poles were always the good guys. In fact much of the European misery roots in German imperialism, chauvinism, narcissism and unwarranted self-importance.
Vid related is kinda obligatory here.
On her mother side Merkel was German and her father's side Jewishness is unprovable and pretty much irrelevant. A large part of Germans decided for years she's fine for the job, during the latest election as well. For your Führer about 150 000 Jews by your definition were fine to serve in the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, even among the ranks of generals.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 17:33:05 [Preview] No.17070 del
>Poles were always the good guys.
Until they listen to great britain and refuse countless offers from Germany to give them access to their cutted out territory in the middle of Poland.
They were the good guys until they literaly provoked WW2 on the behalf of GB.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 17:40:44 [Preview] No.17071 del
WW2 is rooted in the "peace" treaties of WW1 which wasn't made for agreeing on terms but for punishment of the losing side. Compare it with the treaty of France got at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. Ww2 was unavoidable, if anything it's GB's, France's and the US's fault. Poland did nothing wrong.
It's also debated when WW2 started. When GB and France declared War on Germany it was still a local conflict.
It is also debated if it's right to call it "second" as it's entirely legit historical view that the inter-war era was just a long armistice and there were actually only one World War.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 17:42:51 [Preview] No.17072 del
It's Hilter's fault for not letting Neville Chamberlain smoke during meetings.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 20:23:22 [Preview] No.17074 del
>Poles were always the good guys.
"Poki swiat swiatem, Polak Niemcowi nie bedzie bratem." is a Polish proverb. So is "Zdechly Niemiec, zedechly pies, mala to roznica jest."
Not only did these so called "Christian" priests excel in rhetoric aimed at cultivating deadly hate against Germans during the pre-1939 years, they also prayed in their churches, "O wielk wojn ludow prosimy Cie, Panie! (We pray to you for the great War of Peoples, oh Lord!)" Later, when their wishes came true, they actively participated in murdering unsuspecting German soldiers. "Cardinal Wyszynski confirmed the fact 'that during the war there was not one single Polish priest who did not fight against the Germans with a weapon in his hand.' The war lasted only three short weeks, the German occupation lasted several years. This explains the extraordinary high number of priest-partisans who even were joined by bishops." Immediately after the formation of Poland after World War 1, Poland was attacking Germans and Ukrainians. On August 26th, 1920, the Polish pastor in Adelnau said in a speech, "All Germans residing in Poland ought to be hanged."
"The Polish terror in the Ukraine today is worse than anything else in Europe. Ukraine became a country of desperation and destruction. The murderous deeds multiplied. The Germans have been tortured, mutilated, excruciated to death, their corpses were desecrated. Villages and palaces have been robbed, ignited, blown up. The depicted incidents in the official publication of the German government in 1921 exceed the worst actions one can imagine." - Professor Dr. Ren Martel in his book, Les frontires orientales de l' Allemange (Paris 1930) about the Polish raids in Upper Silesia in 1921.
Iin 1990, the then Polish Prime Minister Lech Walesa made his feelings towards his German neighbors publicly known: "I do not even shrink from a statement that is not going to make me popular in Germany: if the Germans destabilize Europe anew, in some way or other, then partition is no longer what will have to be resorted to, but rather that country will have to be erased from the map, pure and simple. East and West have at their disposal the advanced technology necessary to carry this verdict out."
>and her father's side Jewishness is unprovable and pretty much irrelevant.
"Unprovable" is as wrong as "irrelevant". You were given a mountain of text explaining the jewishness of Angela Merkel. Even then that pales in comparison to the video you clearly didn't watch >>17050 where she speaks in her mother tongue. Yiddish

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 20:42:48 [Preview] No.17075 del
>where she speaks in her mother tongue. Yiddish

She speaks a sentece of Hebrew in the Israeli parliament, the Knesset. It's something politicians do out of politeness. Hebrew is a completely different language from Yiddisch.

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Excuse me, correction: Hebrew. She thanked them for speaking in her mother tongue. Now for the accusation of "irrelevant". The question now to ask is: are Polish people responsible for violence in the past? The answer is no. The same as modern Germans vs. Germans fighting in WW2. The same as Bolsheviks vs. modern Russians. None of them are the same exact people. This should be obvious. However, Angela Merkel's jewish side grants her the typical jewish concept that all ethnic Germans are to blame for anti-jewish historical Germans. Polish people have risen above that history due to the 1968 Polish political crisis where there was mass emigration due to anti-Zionist General Mieczyslaw Moczar. Russia is no longer controlled by jewish Communist Bolsheviks, whom were responsible for the mass starvation https://holodomorinfo.com and the slaughter of the former Tsar Nicholas II along with his entire family, including the children. His daughters were finished with knives. The jewish belief is that white non-jews all want to kill jews because muh holocaust. Thus Merkel is flooding Germany with Arabs, following the Kalergi plan. She's not the only one who believes "all Germans are Nazis" nor "all white people are evil". Here are some prime jews causing the mass immigration ethnic displacement issue in Europe. Watch the videos first

Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 21:30:30 [Preview] No.17130 del
mods should ban posters like this if we want to have serious discussions
You read too much /pol
>Nearly two years before the invasion of the Second Polish Republic, between 1937 and 1939, the Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen was being secretly prepared in Germany
>the proscription list prepared by the Germans immediately before the onset of war, that identified more than 61,000 members of Polish elites: activists, intelligentsia, scholars, actors, former officers, and prominent others, who were to be interned or shot on the spot upon their identification following the invasion

Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 05:20:25 [Preview] No.17136 del
Noone can say Germans don't like to plan and prepare for things.

Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 21:51:58 [Preview] No.18644 del
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This is an actual presidential candidate.

Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 21:54:44 [Preview] No.18646 del
Some variations on the first picture.

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 00:23:50 [Preview] No.18647 del
Well, thanks for reviving the political thread.

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 05:13:47 [Preview] No.18648 del
Not bad but can he compete with Lula?

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 10:47:48 [Preview] No.18652 del
I still miss him, lads.

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 10:52:57 [Preview] No.18653 del
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>didn't upload the pic
classic endchan

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 17:34:51 [Preview] No.18660 del
He did really put fun into politics. Wait, there's no fun in politics.

Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 23:46:37 [Preview] No.18670 del
He's a meme candidate with 1-2% of the vote.

we all do

Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 02:04:02 [Preview] No.18812 del
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Our largest news program just interviewed Bolsonaro as part of a series with several other presidential candidates except for the one who sits behind bars.

-Everyone was visibly angry at each other
-Bolsonaro had "God, Family, Brazil" written in his hand
-Bolsonaro looked weak at first when asked about how his behavior would differ from old politics when he's a career politician that made use of privileges such as a form of housing funding that any politician may legally receive despite already having a home
-Interviewers bring up the "gender wage gap" and insist he must regulate the market to fight it. He points that his female interviewer is paid less than her male colleague and she replies that her wage is none of his business (despite previously claiming that he should regulate it). It turns out, however, that her position isn't the same as his.
-Bolsonaro then faces the question of what he'd do about the 6 billion gays killed due to homophobia every hour and is reminded of his politically incorrect statements on the subject in the past. He mentions he's now OK with the gays and has many of them as his voters and then brings up his conflict with the gay lobby/movement over a sexually explicit educational booklet that they wanted to widely distribute in schools. He then whipped out the booklet and tried to show it, but the hosts insisted he couldn't. Pic related is him showing it off later. The benis "feature" is an integral part of the booklet.
-On the topic of law & order, his interviewers described his statements in favor of harsh actions against crime with indignation. He doubled down on them. This is where he was at his best, as there's widespread popular support for his views.
-They end up discussing the 1964 military junta and Bolsonaro points out that the media empire now hosting him was founded by a loud and overt supporter of that regime. His interviewer confuses himself while speaking of the current year and says "it's 2021".

Overall, he seemed agitated and not very brilliant, but did manage to impress most of his viewers, some of whom have now become voters.

sage Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 02:18:50 [Preview] No.18814 del
More notable points:

-When informed that his wage is paid with the interviewers' tax money, he replies that they, too, are paid with tax money through subsidies.
-The "source" on the claimed death toll of homophobic attacks is not based on police statistics, but was compiled by a homosexual pressure group from news, Internet searching and anedoctal evidence.

Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 18:22:58 [Preview] No.18830 del
I see a new book on the horizon:
>How I Won the Presidential Election of 2018 from Prison
I need a dedicated copy.

>Bolsonaro had "God, Family, Brazil" written in his hand
So he could peek when he forgot what to say?
>he's now OK with the gays
Now that they are dead. Who wouldn't be?
From the thumbnail I thought that's a gondola in the booklet.

Bernd 08/30/2018 (Thu) 00:17:29 [Preview] No.18834 del
>So he could peek when he forgot what to say?
Yes. He was previously seen with "Polls, guns, Lula" on his hand during a debate.

Bernd 08/30/2018 (Thu) 05:08:29 [Preview] No.18843 del
Parties of Brazil?

Bernd 09/01/2018 (Sat) 23:29:16 [Preview] No.18913 del
Most parties can be grouped into three blocs: the Left, the Center ("Centrão") and the Right, aswell as smaller blocs not usually mentioned as independent entities: the Far Left, the Center Left and pan-party lobbies.

The Far Left is a madhouse of tiny radical groups with no cohesion or cooperation whatsoever. Its only party with representation in Congress is the Socialism and Liberty Party, a PT splinter group with 6 seats. It has a strong support base among university students, celebrities, intellectuals and woke upper class people in general. As an emphatically postmodern movement, its main talking points are weed, blacks and homosex rather than traditional working class themes. Remaining parties in this category are substantially different, as they also embrace postmodern topics but are older, explicitly communist organizations:
-Unified Worker's Socialist Party (PSTU): Trotskyite gommies.
-Workers' Cause Party (PCO): Trotskyite gommies.
-Brazilian Communist Party (PCB): the Communist Party, founded in 1922, often simply called "Partidão" and still orthodox Marxist-Leninist.

The Left is easy to understand and needs little explanation. It's a collection of populists and social democrats headed that has mostly acted together. It's headed by the Worker's Party, which grew out of 80s unionism into a radical socialist party, embraced pragmatism upon assuming power, gradually drifted back to its roots and is now once again beating the drums of class warfare and hostility now that it's out of power. It is currently the second largest party in Congress, with 58 out of 513 seats. More parties include:
-Democratic Labor Party (PDT, 19 seats): founded 1979 as a direct continuation of the pre-military regime left by Leonel Brizola, a major figure with significant political credentials. During the first post-junta elections Brizola was cucked by Lula, a barely literate populist newcomer, due to getting a few % less votes and thus failing to reach the second round. Since then it has accepted the humilliating post of junior partner to the PT. Another notable fact is that it used to have a strong support base in Rio Grande do Sul, which since 2006 is a right-wing stronghold.
-Communist Party of Brazil (PCdoB, 12 seats): Not to be confused with the PCB, from which it split off as an anti-Kruschev Stalinist party and later became Maoist. Ironically enough, it's now the more moderate of the two.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 00:19:08 [Preview] No.18914 del
The Center Left is typically included within the Left or the Center, but I'll speak of it separately as the following parties are more moderate and have an erratic political behavior, sometimes allying with the Right.
-Brazilian Socialist Party (PSB, 35 seats): old moderate SocDem party.
-Green Party (PV, 6 seats): weed and tree-hugging.
-Sustainability NET (REDE, 2 seats): moderate version of the Green Party, has a strong presidential candidate.
-Free Fatherland Party (PPL, no seats): recent party, ideologically similar to the PDT but so far has not backed the Left in elections.
-Popular Socialist Party (PPS, 8 seats): founded as a PCB splinter group but is now part of the ruling coalition.

The Center is a massive, amorphous blob of opportunists who, despite leaning conservative and representing established economic interests, care first and foremost about never being outside of power and will thus gladly ally with either the Left or the Right and vote with them as long as they get their share of ministries and funds. Smaller parties may follow a different policy, but generally the Center acts together. Some parties here are nominally center-left, center-right or even right-wing, but I'm
-Brazilian Democratic Movement (MDB, formerly PMDB, 63 seats): in 1965 the military junta banned all existing parties, grouped its support base in Congress which was allowed to operate for the entire period in one party - ARENA - and the opposition in another - MDB, which was thus a very big tent from its beginning. Later on party formationw as once again allowed and its ideologically distinct factions split off while mystery meat MPs remained. Although reviled a hideously corrupt organization, it remains the largest political force in the country and it's impossible for anyone to rule without buying its support.
-Progressive Party (PP, 47 seats): generic centrists. Nominally right-wing.
-Republican Party (PR, 39 seats): generic centrists. Not to be confused with the Brazilian Republican Party or the Republican Party of Social Order.
-Social Democratic Party (PSD, 36 seats): generic centrists. Recent splinter group from the DEM.
-Brazilian Republican Party (PRB, 24 seats): generic centrists. Holy shit, how do they have so many seats? Before I did research for this I thought this was just a tiny party.
-Brazilian Labor Party (PTB, 17 seats): generic centrists. Not to be confused with the former Labor Party of Brazil. Both Labor Parties should also not be confused with the Worker's Party, the Democratic Labor Party, the Brazilian Renewalist Labor Party and so on.
-Solidarity (SD, 14 seats): generic centrists. Formed recently.
-We can (Podemos, 13 seats): generic centrists. Formed recently and not part of the ruling coalition.
-Humanistic Party of Solidarity (PHS, 7 seats): generic center-right party. Not part of the ruling coalition.
-Republican Party of Social Order (PROS, 5 seats): generic centrists.
-Forward (AV, 4 seats: generic centrists. Formerly the aforementioned Labor Party of Brazil.
-Progressive Republican Party (PRP, 1 seat): generic centrists.
-Party of the Brazilian Woman (PMB, 1 seat): generic centrists. Formed recently and not part of the ruling coalition.
-Party of National Mobilization (PMN, no seats): generic centrists.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 00:46:23 [Preview] No.18915 del
There's also the Social Christian Party (PSC, 10 seats) which is ideologically right-wing but backed Dilma in 2010 and thus, by behavior, ought to be grouped with the Center.

The Right is a grouping of Blairite SocDems, liberal-conservatives, conservatives, the religious right, and very small populist right and libertarian factions, all of whom don't like each other much but have been forced into cooperation whilst struggling against the left. As of the last few years this cooperation has come to an end.
-Brazilian Social Democratic Party (PSDB, 47 seats): liberal-leaning Social Democrats. Although its credentials as a right-wing party are very questionable, its size has forced the other parties in this category to accept its leadership.
-Democrats (DEM, 29 seats): liberal-conservatives. Several decades and name changes ago this was ARENA.
-Patriot not a typo, their name is in singular (PATRI, 3 seats, formerly the National Ecological Party-PEN): pentecostal religious right. A meme party with a meme candidate >>18644
-Social Liberal Party (PSL, 2 seats): formerly a libertarian-leaning party, but its leadership chose to accept Bolsonaro and become his party. As a result its libertarian section got butthurt and left, making its name meaningless.
-New (NOVO, no seats): formed by the aforementioned butthurt libertarian section of the PSL. Our libertarian movement is large but very recent. Has a presidential candidate.
-Christian Democracy (DC, formerly PSDC, no seats): meme religious right party with a meme candidate.
-Brazilian Renewalist Labor Party (PRTB, no seats): meme conservative Keynesian party. Sadly its meme candidate isn't running this year.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 00:53:47 [Preview] No.18916 del
Several caucuses are also notable:
-Football lobby
-"Human rights" caucus
-Miscellaneous economic lobbies
-Gun lobby

The last three are particularly reviled by leftists and often named together as the "Guns, Cattle, Bibles" caucus. In fact, their influence is severly overstated and more positive than negative.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 01:41:14 [Preview] No.18917 del
So how does all of this work, when ideologically ambiguous opportunists are the vast majority of congressmen?

Elections are held to renew the Executive and Legislative at state and national levels. (Municipal elections are offset 2 years from the main ones - the next one is in 2020). On every state and on the national level parties form coalitions. Some minutes of TV time are allocated by law for electoral propaganda; this time is divided among coalitions according to how many parliamentary seats they have. Coalitions also have an institutionalized relevance in the legislative dispute, as MPs are elected by the total vote count of their coalition and not of themselves -this allows tiny candidates with next to no votes to join large coalitions and get elected whilst other candidates with no votes are left out. Second rounds may happen in the gubernatorial and presidential disputes; typically they always happen for the federal level but only a handful of states find themselves with a second gubernatorial round.

From 1994 to 2014 a very predictable pattern emerged: the Center never launches a candidate of their own. Instead, almost all of its Parties form a coalition with the existing government - Right or Left, leading to a showdown between the PT and the PSDB. The PDT or some Center Left party launches a third candidate, which may gain up to 20% of the vote and can influence the second round by declaring support for either candidate. There's also a slew of meme candidates.
The winning bloc -Right or Left- then forms a coalition with the Center by handing out cabinet posts. Political scientists call this system "coalition presidentialism".

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 18:01:05 [Preview] No.18925 del
You put it soem work into this, I appreciate it, I'll read it thoroughly.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 18:47:43 [Preview] No.18927 del
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>Political scientists

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 20:08:55 [Preview] No.18929 del
I still plan to write on the historical (last 20 years) and ideological background and on each candidate.

There's a typo in my last post:
>this allows tiny candidates with next to no votes to join large coalitions and get elected whilst other candidates with no votes are left out.
which should be
>this allows tiny candidates with next to no votes to join large coalitions and get elected whilst other candidates with more votes are left out.

Bernd 09/02/2018 (Sun) 20:29:04 [Preview] No.18931 del
>images of dead Germans aren't enough evidence durr

Bernd 09/03/2018 (Mon) 10:46:52 [Preview] No.18936 del
<Cyka! Dun't you know duh Nut seas about to take all of eastern Europe and genocide duh Sluhvs? Luk at Lebensraum!

Bernd 09/03/2018 (Mon) 19:11:45 [Preview] No.18939 del
Well you know, these are Poles with later added captions that they are Germans. :^)

I don't get it what's your problem with Polan. You guys are practically the same except they were treated like shit, and in your case even the troops got the directive before invasion that they have to behave themselves with the natives, Germans invaded and occupied your country as well, they took away your people's sovereignty.
>inb4 hurr durr we are Germanics together
Yeah this just the same shitty ideology which turns everything the same shit, like Christian Universalism, Communism and Globalism.

Bernd 09/04/2018 (Tue) 16:45:15 [Preview] No.18969 del
What a giant clusterfuck of parties.
Do the voters cast their support regardless the party affiliation of the presidential candidates? Here >>18914 you wrote that the REDE as a strong one so I suppose despite the party has few seats and therefore supporters lots of people would vote on him. So I guess this can happen because the coalition presidentialism.

>Some parties here are nominally center-left, center-right or even right-wing, but I'm
But you are... ?

Bernd 09/04/2018 (Tue) 17:14:46 [Preview] No.18971 del
Not really, Denmark was given a protectorate status. You see, the English would've seized Denmark to prevent the Germans from gaining a stronghold in Norway, just like how they and the Soviets invaded the neutral Iran. Sweden was exporting Iron Ore to Germany through Norway, and so the English mined the waters to force those Swedish ships into international water, which is why there was a war in the north in the first place.

Bernd 09/05/2018 (Wed) 02:07:34 [Preview] No.18980 del
They're evidence of a massacre happening shortly before these picture were taken, which, as you may know, was after the German invasion of Poland and hence could not, by itself, provide a justification for the invasion.
I don't doubt at least some of the Nazi rhetoric about opressed Volksdeutsche is true, as other ethnic minorities in interwar Central and Eastern Europe were also poorly treated, and the fact that a massacre happened (albeit after the invasion) shows there was already hate. But I've yet to see solid evidence of prewar massacres of Germans.

>Do the voters cast their support regardless the party affiliation of the presidential candidates?
Parties matter a lot to politicians due to their organizational infrastructure -hence why there are so many generic centrist parties: they're tools in the power play of cliques and individuals. Their ideological purpose only really matters for activists.

Voter choice has two patterns. On municipal and state-level elections -even for much of Parliament-, ideology is remarkably irrelevant: candidates are chosen according to personal convenience and/or wheter the existing cabinet is considered an efficient administration, elections are an extension of personal politics, parties are mere political machines and bizarre coalitions such as PT+PSDB are possible. This is part of why the Center is so powerful: most of its MPs are there simply because they have support for non-ideological reasons at the local level.
On the other hand, voter choice at the presidential and (to an extent) state levels is based on the well-known logic of ideology, candidate charisma, discontent expression, "lesser evil" and so on.
Although these are two different logics, they more or less line up and it's rare for an area to vote left-wing at the local level and right-wing at the presidential level and vice-versa.

>REDE as a strong one so I suppose despite the party has few seats and therefore supporters lots of people would vote on him
REDE is a recent party formed solely to house Marina Silva, a presidential third candidate who, first as part of the PV and then as part of the PSB, had already gained a substantial number of votes in the 2010 and 2014 elections. Some of these votes were simply protest votes against the two leading parties due to her third candidate status, while others were due to ideology. So there actually is a lot of support for the party's policies but not for the party itself, and few of its candidates will get ahead in local disputes. A similar case is the PSL: a large section of the electorate supports Bolsonaro and his ideology, but few people care about the party itself, as it's a tiny institution housing a major figure. Even the PT has drifted towards this: although the party is well-organized and supported, Lula has dwarfed it and it'd lose most of its support overnight if Lula were to leave it. On the other extreme there's the MDB, which can count on still being the largest party in Congress next year but has no real presidential candidate.

>But you are... ?
...but I included them in the Center due to their political behavior of being willing to ally with anyone.

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>protectorate status
Not for long tho. And this is important. England didn't really pursued territorial gain on the continent since the Hundred Years War while Hitler declared in the Mein Kampf that for Germany running after colonial ventures was a mistake and they have to establish their empire on the continent. Frankly Germany and England would have been the same for Denmark, both trying to "keep safe" her from the other, this is an age old excuse for imperialists to justify their military's presence. But England's presence would have been very temporary while Germany's could have gone on for a long time.
>English would've seized Denmark
...any proofs on this? Yes, they occupied Iceland, and the Faroes I think, but well after Denmark's occupation.
>possible English occupation
Westerner problems. Next time try it for real with the eternal Liberator...

Bernd 09/05/2018 (Wed) 20:32:59 [Preview] No.19006 del
It is pretty interesting to see that Brazil - a country that has a lot common with Russia (from poverty and corruption to vastness of space and love for these TV novels) - has truly opposite political system. Here parties are nothing, just a cheap frontend to one big and shady political elite that never changes.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 16:42:05 [Preview] No.19019 del
Elections in Swiss uh I mean Sweden this weekend. Traditional parties are expected to lose more votes, Sweden-Democrats are projected to "finn"ish on 1st or 2nd place.
Meanwhile Switzerland has other first world problems to vote for, a new paragraph for bicycles in the constitution and two popular referendums about food. One wants to put healthy food into the constitution the other wants that the state pays for 150'000 jobs in agriculture. The farmers know how to milk the state for more money. The referendums are later into the month, but they send out the voting material a month before, so you can vote right away. Feels democratic man.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 17:00:57 [Preview] No.19020 del
Sweden Democrats, well would you look at that. A very Zionist Civic Nationalist party. They won't deport migrants; they're going to assimilate them.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 17:06:12 [Preview] No.19021 del
Aren't Swedes pretty anti-zionist since Israel murdered a Bernd-adotte from their royal family.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 17:19:29 [Preview] No.19022 del
Berndadotte indeed. The people though, not the party. Sweden Democrats is just like Lega Nord, Fidesz or the Volkspartei; incredibly Zionist and Civic Nationalist.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 17:36:47 [Preview] No.19024 del
How are the voting turnouts over there? I wouldn't expect it to be very high for pointless shit like the ones you posted.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 17:48:46 [Preview] No.19025 del
Last referendum had 47% voter turnout, but had a pretty important referendum about a pension reform and woman still don't want to work as long as men. Turnout varies between under 40% and can be over 60% for stuff concerning relationship with the EU.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 19:48:00 [Preview] No.19028 del
>a pension reform and woman still don't want to work as long as men.
Toplel classic feminist """""""equaity""""""", same shit in the USA when they suggested that women should be included in conscription.

Bernd 09/06/2018 (Thu) 20:34:28 [Preview] No.19030 del
If they don't want to "work long", why do they want to work at all? They can just be at home pumping babies out.

Bernd 09/07/2018 (Fri) 12:35:58 [Preview] No.19050 del
Typically I think it's because they would rather work part-time to help out the family a little while also still having time for chillunz. As for the earlier retirement age however I don't understand the reasoning, especially when women generally live longer than men.

Bernd 09/07/2018 (Fri) 12:42:20 [Preview] No.19051 del
This is probably gonna make him even more popular

Bernd 09/07/2018 (Fri) 15:28:55 [Preview] No.19052 del
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>Congresswoman Maria do Rosario was "not worth raping; she is very ugly".
This alone worth a vote.

Bernd 09/07/2018 (Fri) 19:18:17 [Preview] No.19066 del
>Officials quoted by Reuters news agency said he appeared to be mentally disturbed.
This is damage control. He was a card-carrying Socialism and Liberty Party member until 2017 and most likely coordinated this attack with at least one other person. It's true that he's a nutcase, but it was a political act.

>He is currently being investigated for alleged racism over derogatory remarks he made about Afro-Brazilians.
Here's what actually happened: while speaking to Jews in Rio de Janeiro, he commented on his experience visiting a quilombo - a community formed by escaped slaves - noting that everyone there was fat, idle and reliant on state funding. He made a bovine comparison, stating their weight in a unit of measure only used for cattle and that they weren't even useful for breeding. He also joked about Lula's missing finger.

Bernd 09/07/2018 (Fri) 19:31:45 [Preview] No.19067 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UdM1GSe1uaA [Embed]

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 10:01:44 [Preview] No.19083 del
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So as mentioned above Swedes are holding their general election tomorrow. They vote on party lists in a proportional system. The parties are competing for 349 seats of the Riksdag. I'm gonna give a quick rundown who is who (the indicated political orientations shouldn't be taken too seriously, we know they are all commies):
The three largest parties are:
- Social Democratic Party (S) - commies, the leading party of the coalition government, ruling from minority, led by a drunk Russian
- Moderate Party (M) - nazies light, the leading party of the Alliance, a block formed by most opposing parties - led by soyboy
- Sicherheitsdienst (SD) - nazies, fart-right, led by nu-male

Dwarf parties, their influence on things seems higher than their size:
- Green Party (MP) - commies, the lesser partner in government
- Centre Party (C)- peasant commies, in the Alliance
- Left Party (V) - commies+, silent partner for the governing parties
- Liberals (L) - commies light originally, now aspiring nazies light, in the Alliance
- Christian Democrats (KD) - nazies light, in the Alliance, led by a Mongol Thoress (I'd hit that)

Other notable parties:
- Feminist Initiative (FI) - commies, struggles for the collectivization of cocks especially with colored background
- Pirate Party (PP) - commies arrr!
- Alternative for Sweden (AfS I guess) - nazies+

Here are some numbers:
SD seems to be on the second place on average. I don't think much will change, maybe the members of current Alliance will be able to form a government for some weird accident but it's all the same.

I hope you will report back on the referendums of Swaziland.

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Moar pics of Thin Chin Chink Chick.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 13:27:28 [Preview] No.19093 del
None of those parties are "Nazies" really, the only real "Nazi" party that's actually registered would be the Nordic Resistance Movement, which is a party the media likes to make look a lot bigger than they actually are.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 14:02:31 [Preview] No.19094 del
You kiddings? They have capitalist or Christian or EU-skeptic or anti-immigration views. Smells Natzis to me.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 18:35:55 [Preview] No.19116 del
"Anti-immigration". They only care about assimilating them. Just like Orban in your country. I bet a black man that speaks Hungarian and is a Catholic can become a Hungarian citizen. Plus, they LOVE Israel.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 18:36:40 [Preview] No.19117 del
And capitalism is literally opposed to National Socialism in every way.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 19:03:18 [Preview] No.19118 del
1. You are literally no fun.
2. I'd bet 100 HUF liberal media can make nazi out of them easily. So they are nazis.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 19:09:55 [Preview] No.19119 del
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this is a serious discussions zone, no fun allowed

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 19:16:30 [Preview] No.19120 del
Oh and the first thing I wrote that we know they are all commies.

Interesting because on KC main all Danish Bernds had a weird sense of humor. Beside Russians they were the most fun dudes. Brits are also humorous for some degree, Amerilards think they are funny but in reality most of them either immature kids or hopless shitposters.

Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 19:42:48 [Preview] No.19121 del
>on kc


Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 07:45:16 [Preview] No.19130 del
Saw jokes from every country but the average perceived funniness of the Russians was the highest. Maybe not all the things I found funny were intended to be it or maybe the selection of threads what I read allowed them to jape or allowed me to interpret their posts as such, who knows. Maybe one can see more clearly if their own compatriots are being serious or joking knowing more about the general background their behaviour is shaped, sometimes - for example - I like to think I know if another Hungarian's posts are genuine or pretended. Maybe I have mindset to find things funny because I find an angle which allows me to see it's hilarity or ridiculousness.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 07:54:30 [Preview] No.19131 del
Maybe Runglish also helps sometimes.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 07:57:04 [Preview] No.19132 del
And also maybe this thought on being village fools has some merit: >>19046

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 08:05:21 [Preview] No.19133 del
>Maybe one can see more clearly if their own compatriots are being serious or joking knowing more about the general background their behaviour is shaped

Sadly, even in real life it is hard to distinguish joke from being serious in Russia nowadays.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 08:55:16 [Preview] No.19134 del
russian are niggers, its only funny to observe them from a save distance

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Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 09:13:10 [Preview] No.19137 del
That's funny.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 09:18:37 [Preview] No.19138 del
Frankly it's typical Russian behaviour:
>Foreigner: Wow, Russia is such a nice place!
>Foreigner: Wow, Russia is horrible!
Now just replace the key words with funny and unfunny.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 19:34:04 [Preview] No.19145 del
Socialdemocrats stay the biggest party at 26% , SD gets to 20%. The center-right block is slightly bigger than the center-left, so new Swedish government could be led by a moderate conservative.

Bernd 09/09/2018 (Sun) 22:21:06 [Preview] No.19146 del
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Meanwhile, there was election day in Russia. This isn't big parliament or president elections, but election of governors, mayors and local parliaments.

Some people also decided to protest against pension reform today and got beaten by OMON again.

As always, main concern of government was attendance - low turnout may make elections look bad, and most people already know who will win so they don't go to voting stations. So, goverment did everything to make turnout higher, from administrative methods ("all you go to vote or you'll have problems" in state-controlled companies) to concerts and other public events near voting stations.

One of these stations located in 100m from my house, and they started to play loud music at 8:00 (it is actually forbidden by law but who cares), and then played small concert with some local artists at 12:00 (for 50 viewers). So, I couldn't sleep at morning and then they ruined half of my day. Oh g-d I hate them all.

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 05:06:58 [Preview] No.19148 del
Totally forgot about them.
I hope they'll make maps I'll look it up in the evening.

>With roots in the neo-Nazi movement, the Sweden Democrats (SD),
>"Their roots are Nazi and we know what Nazism has done in Europe,"

>most people already know who will win so they don't go to voting stations
Somehow they should be tricked into voting on someone who has no chance. Hilarity ensues.
Blast them with reggaeton next time.

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 06:55:28 [Preview] No.19150 del
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>Somehow they should be tricked into voting on someone who has no chance. Hilarity ensues.

When these people go to voting stations, they just vote for that guy who is in charge or who is pro-government because "oh, new people will steal much first, but this guy already stole what he want". Average Russian voter isn't Italian.

Actually, opposition had tactics in first half of 2010s - "vote for everyone except United Russia". They thought that maybe other parties aren't really opposition, but with plurality in parliament they became more selfish and there will be discussions and agreements, no unanimous votes for everything that government says. And they were wrong, later all parties started to vote as government says, even when their share became larger. That is the Russian politics.

>Blast them with reggaeton next time.

Their sound system are much heavier than mine. I thought about sound terrorism already.

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 12:19:15 [Preview] No.19151 del
Brexit's over lads, go home.
>those comments

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 14:27:55 [Preview] No.19155 del
Can the damage in England be undone at this point?

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The only way I could see it happening would be if the big parties finally died. Based Jezza is already doing it with Labour but I can't see the conservatives dying anytime soon because everyone fell for the tactical voting meme and now UKIP is kill.

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 16:34:16 [Preview] No.19170 del
What the fuck is that image?

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 18:21:07 [Preview] No.19171 del
Drunk natives.

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 18:38:16 [Preview] No.19172 del
Hang on. If these Englishmen are so drunk, and Paki migrants aren't doing anything about it..

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 20:46:20 [Preview] No.19177 del
Couldn't find other map than the one wikipedia published.
Left: district, right: municipality
- red: SocDem
- blue: Moderates
- yellow: SweDem

Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 20:53:57 [Preview] No.19179 del
For muslims both alcohol and pigs are haram so they can't handle them.

It will still happen, just still isn't clear what's gonna be after that.

Bernd 09/11/2018 (Tue) 12:55:21 [Preview] No.19185 del
Baroque painting of modern day Britain.

Bernd 09/17/2018 (Mon) 21:58:49 [Preview] No.19343 del
>Meanwhile, there was election day in Russia. This isn't big parliament or president elections, but election of governors, mayors and local parliaments.

And now the happenings. Most of regions, as expected, elected politicians from pro-government United Russia party (not just pro-government, but actually a government as a party) in first round (>50% votes). But in some few regions there will be a second round: Primorsky Krai, Khabarovsk region (both in Far East), Vladimir region (European part) and Khakassia (another republic of Turkic people). In every region except Primorie elections will happen in late September, but in Primorie they decided to make second round few days ago.

And, surprisingly, a commie (from Communist Party, they aren't really a commies nowadays, but pro-government "opposition") guy (Ischenko) won. Or not won, but lost. He was leading with 51% vs 45% for United Russia guy (Tarasenko) when 95% of votes were counted. News channels reported that he won, party leader (Zuganov) congratulated him, and region became and example of region when someone not from government won.

Suddenly, at night, when 99% of votes were counted, site of election committee became unresponsive for hours, police forced Ischenko people to move from some voting stations, and United Russia guy started to lead with 49.5 vs 48 for commie. Some people compared numbers and even said that this couldn't be real because numbers don't match (voting attendance and voters count, etc). Now central government is silent, commie guy is protesting, election committee says that they didn't count everything so please wait.

Primorsky Krai known as political center of Russian Far East (with Vladivostok city as capital) and known as depressing region with bad migration trend (to Russia), corrupted and weak economics and Chinese influence.

Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 01:04:09 [Preview] No.19351 del
Aren't commies and the LDPR controlled opposition? Why is the status quo so worried about them getting any power?

Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 06:31:44 [Preview] No.19355 del
Yes. For example, they vote for everything government says except when their vote in parliament doesn't matter (and they can show that they are opposition). Their official program not really different than for United Russia, they support same things in political sense for example. They also pretty controlled, for example, Zuganov in 1996 had chance to win but failed, mostly because he stopped fight and allowed Yeltsin to do what he want.

So, they are weak and spineless opportunists. They aren't even commies, because most prominent figures there are classic capitalistic businessmen (for example, that guy who was a candidate at president elections). They even openly support Church now.

They initiated protests against pension reform though, but it may be also a controlled act, because these protests did nothing.

>Why is the status quo so worried about them getting any power?

There is few points. First - it is just too bold cheat from government. If United Russia guy would falsely win "slowly", they wouldn't object, but this case is too serious. 51-45 and then sudden loss, you can't easily backtrack this. Of course they wouldn't start serious protests because they aren't worried much.

Second - this could be not fully sanctioned thing from top (otherwise main guy would win in first round). Far East is known about corruption, and if this may be seen as struggle between local elites, who will remain loyal to government in any case. But commies had chance and United Russia took it from them by force publicly - it is reason to be loud now. But I guess it will end with nothing. Or Putin may decide to intervene and show that he is truly a real democrat and stop this, getting points in media - in the end he loses nothing.

Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 20:25:43 [Preview] No.19387 del
Comedy gold. I mean comedy crimson. Russia always ready to deliver.
In democracy the people can decide whomster they're gonna vote for. But not necessarily who's gonna win.

Bernd 09/19/2018 (Wed) 21:59:27 [Preview] No.19410 del

And, looks like they decided to retry second tour again. Central election committee said that "it was horrible" and sent recommendation to locals to cancel the results (some results from some voting stations already were cancelled but that didn't change anything). United Russia candidate (non-real winner) first said that it is a shame and he wouldn't take part in new elections, but then decided to change his mind and try again.

Ischenko (commie guy who won but lost) said the he is _against_ (!) that election cancellation (!). But looks like he will participate in next election.

Some sources say that all this shit happened not to make United Russia guy win, but to make election fail because he was losing, but at next try he may win because they will be prepared better.

Bernd 09/20/2018 (Thu) 20:54:17 [Preview] No.19434 del
How alcoholism of Primorsky Krai compares to Russian average? They don't sound sober not a tiny bit. Now this thing feels liek someone just fucked up something and they're improvising and trying to make a serious and fair impression but only achieve it's contrary.

Bernd 09/20/2018 (Thu) 21:27:59 [Preview] No.19435 del
There is no good info, different sources say different things. Looks like alcoholism is on level with other regions.

Region is depressing for years. It is populated but very remote, so federal center influence is weaker and local elites are stronger. In 90s almost half of cars had right steering wheel, because they were cheap old Japanese cars, region even tried to officially get right lane driving rules but it didn't happen. Region is so far and so it is cheaper to go to Europe than to Vladivostok from mainland. It also has pretty bad weather, strong winds, hurricanes and cold rainy winters. Economically it is weak too, fishing gives profit but it often goes into hands of local half-criminal structures (related to government as always in post-Yeltsin Russia). Sometimes it looks like neighboring China now richer than Russian Far East - something that can be considered as bad joke 30 years ago.

So, there is serious population loss because of migration to Siberia and European Russia. That is especially bad because China is nearby. Government even tries to stimulate local economics by giving literally free land there (everyone can get it if you provide business plan and do something in 5 years), but travel costs and bad infrastructure are problems. There is also oil in Sakhalin though.

But overall it isn't some remote unknown place like North Siberia, but populated "big" region that is considered as Russian core, not foreign land.

>just fucked up something and they're improvising and trying to make a serious and fair impression but only achieve it's contrary.

Looks like actually they didn't fail. Next elections happen in 3 months and local United Russia could prepare much better, with administrative resource and media in control. Commie guy corrected himself and said that he don't want reelections but recounting of these elections, because he knows that in 3 months is would be harder to win. So, they failed before but did only right thing to do, they got time while having power.

Bernd 09/21/2018 (Fri) 05:43:19 [Preview] No.19440 del
Eu bureaucrats just need to say no to everything.

Bernd 09/28/2018 (Fri) 21:11:03 [Preview] No.19644 del
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I've just noticed Bolsonaro's running mate -who has recently managed to be even more controversial than him- is a Duterte lookalike.

Bernd 09/29/2018 (Sat) 07:45:47 [Preview] No.19648 del
He does look similar. What's the controversy?

Bernd 09/30/2018 (Sun) 00:33:25 [Preview] No.19660 del
Several. When interviewed on the '64 military regime and his praise of a colonel who was a known killer of political enemies i.e. mostly Marxists using urban terrorism to achieve the dictatorship of the proletariat and themselves killed a lot of people in the process, he classed the most hardliner president as the best, subverted a famous musical quote ("My heroes OD'd" from Cazuza's Ideologia) by saying "my heroes didn't OD" and, to top it all off, said "heroes kill", which his interviewers responded to with several seconds of unpleasant, awkward silence. His claims that the military should step in to restore order if the nation is in a state of anarchy and the Constitution ought to be rewritten by specialists raised eyebrows among people who are constantly paranoid about a coup. On the topic of "south-south diplomacy" and the past governments' foreign policy of backing and allying African countries and Latin American Bolivarian states, he called said countries scum the actual word was unusual, antiquated and hard to translate; the event was compared to Trump's "shithole countries" incident. Single mother households were named by him as a negative factor in child upbringing. And more recently, he expressed himself negatively on a specific piece of labor legislation -the thirteenth salary.
Most of what he said was true or at least worthy of serious discussion, but it got a lot of people butthurt.

Bernd 09/30/2018 (Sun) 06:27:28 [Preview] No.19661 del
Well, their witticism does sound similar as well. So there's no chance he will be elected. Sad!

Bernd 09/30/2018 (Sun) 21:50:11 [Preview] No.19676 del
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Some major protests all across the country against and in favor of Bolsonaro.

Meanwhile, one of Bolsonaro's sons has just drawn flak for saying leftist women are unhygienic and shit in the streets.

Bernd 10/01/2018 (Mon) 05:25:37 [Preview] No.19677 del
They're just alternatively clean.

Bernd 10/04/2018 (Thu) 11:34:52 [Preview] No.19730 del
Evil Russian hackers strike again.

Bernd 10/04/2018 (Thu) 15:32:52 [Preview] No.19733 del
Rushka is evil again and want to ban Endchan too.

Bernd 10/04/2018 (Thu) 15:35:14 [Preview] No.19734 del
Where's my fugging ball again?

Bernd 10/04/2018 (Thu) 18:03:58 [Preview] No.19752 del
Country flags missing. Working on it.

Huebernd Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 22:58:56 [Preview] No.19802 del
As I've mentioned, I have more to write about our upcoming elections. Let's start with some historical background.
Our sixth and current republic begins in 1985, when the last junta president finished his mandate and transferred power to a civilian government elected by Congress. A mixture of previously pro-regime and oppositionist MPs formed the Center. The Left and the Right took longer to coalesce. With a chaotic political order and a highly politicized population, the first direct presidential elections in 1989 had a wide array of candidates from across the entire political spectrum. Out of these, Lula and the PT emerged as clear leaders within the Left by winning second place. The Right reached its stable form in the 1994 elections, when Fernando Henrique Cardoso -previously anti-junta leftist intellectual who became notable by bringing an end to hyperinflation as Finance Minister- won the Presidency as part of the PSDB, a party of former Communists (even guerilla fighters) and Social Democrats converted to 90s Blairite pragmatism. It then joined with more properly conservative parties aswell as the Center to rule the nation for 8 years, forming the bipolar confrontation between PSDB and PT I described before. FHC's two mandates saw a minor expansion of the welfare state and liberal reforms such as privatization and deregulation of parts of the rotting state capitalist system built since the 30s. Although highly controversial, they -and the dismantling of hyperinflation- laid the foundation for the following decade's growth.
By the 2002 elections, the Right's grip on power was failing and Lula was ahead in the polls. This immediately panicked investors, as he was a radical, populist and Chavez-like figure at the time. In response, Lula issued an open letter promising a moderate, pro-business attitude in his government.
He won a landslide victory and surprisingly kept true to his word: the welfare state was greatly expanded but economic policy remained orthodox, effectively continuing the Right's program. The Center quickly shifted to the Left's coalition partner, leaving the Right in opposition.
A positive global situation and the cumulative effects of recent reforms made Lula's early government a prosperous period. For many it's a golden age, particularly to the millions of bydlo who could now live off welfare with little to no work. They have become a solid Leftist voting bloc. Curiously enough, this isn't very different from the age-old tradition of local oligarchs using handouts to win over bydlo votes.
Despite a major corruption scandal, Lula won the 2006 elections and retained high approval rates. From that point onwards, the PT began to drift back to its ideological roots, with increasingly less orthodox policy. Economic stimuli (mostly cheap credit, public works and incentives to consumption) were applied to maximize growth at the expense of greater debt (who cares about debt when your long-term vision doesn't go beyond the next election cycle?). This was ramped up further due to two events: the worldwide economic crisis and the 2010 elections.
No President can have over two consecutive terms, so Lula had to pick a successor. His party had some promising figures, but he selected an inept potato sack with no charisma or negotiation skills - Dilma Rousseff. This was probably intentional, as a weak successor is easy to manipulate behind the scenes. Just to make sure she'd get elected, more stimuli were applied and she won.
The 2010s were the tail end of this cycle. Dilma (a former Communist terrorist) was devoted to her ideology, unlike Lula, a pragmatist, and thus expanded economic stimulation even more. Nonetheless, economic growth diminished and soon became stagnation, while a budget deficit only widened. Chimpouts in 2013 demanded empty slogans against corruption and achieved nothing, but signalled an incoming age of stability.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:00:34 [Preview] No.19803 del
The PT narrowly won the 2014 elections as a tired and worn-out regime. By 2015 GDP growth was negative, debt was growing uncontrollably and, to make matters worse, a series of gaffes ("I praise the cassava", "stocking wind", "behind every child there's a hidden figure, which is a dog" and so on -they're all memes by now) corroded Dilma's legitimacy, and her approval rating was now in freefall.
By this point, a rapidly decaying fiscal situation, failed overtures (over past years of PT government) to "socially regulate" the media, public institutions stacked up with inept ideological apointees, taxpayer funding of fellow travellers and a pro-Cuban, pro-Bolivarian foreign policy led many to believe, not without reason, that a process of "Venezuelization" was well underway and could only be interrupted by deposing Dilma.
Political tensions heightened, with protests happening on a regular basis, observers noting and complaining a trend towards polarization and radicalization and gargantuan corruption scandals exposing all major parties to ridicule.
At first she reacted to the crisis by denying its existence. Only several months later did she accept reality and relutanctly reverse course, with minor attempts to limit spending and efforts towards high-reward, highly unpopular austerity measures such as pension reform.
At this point the opposition had two oppositions: allow the PT to burn all of its remaining support doing the unpopular but necessary dirty work with the budget (or failing to do so and allowing the situation to worsen) or go all out against it. It chose the latter. The Center smelled blood and, opportunistic as it is, stabbed the Left in the back, with Eduardo Cunha, President of the Chamber of Deputies and de facto leader of the Center, declaring himself an oppositionist in July 2015. The Left soon found itself in a fragile minority government. Too incompetent to sway the masses or negotiate a political solution, Dilma collapsed in 2016. Although her impeachment happened within the law and she had her right to defend herself fully respected, leftists rejected its legitimacy. This means at least a third of the electorate nominally sees the existing government as illegal.
In a bizarre setup, the Center formed a government with the Right as its coalition partner, with the tacit agreement that it'd back the Right's presidential bid in 2018. Newly-established President Temer had some goodwill at first. Small measures diminished the deficit and economic recovery began, although at a snail's pace. Inflation, too, was not as high as in the Dilma years. His government was also seen as an opportunity for electoral, education, labor, pension, tax reform and so on. But although Temer was nominally backed by a strong parliamentary majority and had suberb negotiation skills, economic recovery was too slow to be felt by the average everyman, who now turned his hostility towards the Center and the Right. The Left, free of having to run the dumspter fire, restored its strength and made vigorous opposition. Neither Temer nor his parliamentarians had the will to fully proceed with unpopular measures. Thus, he achieved some changes to education, a scaled-down labor legislation reform and little more. Corruption scandals then struck him, and he spent all of his remaining political capital to save his own ass. By the time pension reform was discussed, he no longer had enough truly (and not just nominally) loyal MPs to pass it. At about this time he sent the Army to restore order in Rio de Janeiro; as Constitutional changes (such as those required for pension reform) cannot legally happen while this kind of federal intervention is underway, this reform never took place.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:01:09 [Preview] No.19804 del
Intervention continues to this day, and thus Congress is in deadlock and Temer can't (and has no will to) do anything. His approval ratings are in the single digits. His early economic recovery has vanished in face of political uncertainty and events such as the truckers' strike. Established parties are discredited, which is why some of them changed their names in a feeble attempt to look new. There's a power vacuum in Brasília.
20 years of PT-PSDB presidential confrontation with a third candidate and meme candidates are gone. While the PT lives on, dying as a party but still clinging to Lula's monolithic power, the PSDB's legitimacy has eroded and its conservative voters have moved to Bolsonaro, who now leads in the polls. A clear duel has only emerged in the past week: previously, there were no less than four large candidates fighting to face Bolsonaro in the second round, aswell as smaller candidates that aren't truly meme candidates. These are the 2018 elections.

What's at stake? There are three basic profiles of elector, with different answers but more or less the same themes. They are:
>Leftists: Welfare-reliant bydlo, Northeasterners, members of "social movements", half the intelligentsia and most "woke" people. Very well-organized, with activists constantly active in the streets and the Internet. Hate the press and believe Dilma's impeachment was a "coup", Lula was a gud boy who dindu nuffin and not only the Executive but also the entire legal system are illegitimate. Hugo Chavez-tier.
>Centrists: Anyone who reads enough to assimilate consensus opinions in the media without thinking beyond them or adopting niche opinions, so mostly middle- and high-class voters with a cosmopolitan background. Note that these are not necessarily voters of the Center, typically favoring the Center-Left or the social democrat section of the Right. Poorly organized and severely lacking in political passion. Religiously follow all politically correct opinions on society set by the leftists, but disagree politically and economically, trusting the political system and the press and favoring a more laissez-faire social democracy. Reddit-tier.
>Conservatives: Boomers, Protestants, Southerners, reactionary portions of the middle class, hinterland voters and young men. Enthusiastic, but lacking in political organization. Hate the press and sometimes wish for a new military coup or even an Imperial restoration. Boomer-tier, complete with Israel and America worship.
They furiously discuss the following topics:

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:01:37 [Preview] No.19805 del
Law and order
59 thousand of my countrymen were murdered last year, when a mere short-lasting regional police strike allowed an orgy of looting and murder to take place and an underworld war led to a series of prison riots -rooted in the murder of a drug lynchpin at the Paraguayan border in a hours-long street battle involving dozens of gunmen and machine guns months earlier- with hundreds dead, beheadings and even cannibalism. Rio's situation is so chaotic the military had to assume police work. Liveleak videos have become a staple export. Crime is rampant, although it's concentrated in the largest urban centers and even small towns immediately beside them can be safe.
On the bright side, it's still not as bad as Mexico.
Our laws are very lenient to criminals, high and low. Few are caught, even those captured in the act have a high chance of getting temporarily freed immediately after their arrest, few are sentenced and those who do get arrested get out early -incarceration has an upper limit of 30 years (and there's no death penalty), but few are sentenced to that and even fewer serve their sentence fully. Impunity is a widespread feeling.
On the other hand, the victims of crime see little sympathy and cops have it worse. Contrary to what many will tell you, Brazilian police are not brutal, but quite to the contrary, are held back at every level. They're underfunded, poorly armed (against criminals with enough firepower to down helicopters) and legally restrained from applying force. Highbrow media, intellectuals and part of the lower class have an anti-cop attitude and, in the case of leftists, even pro-criminal sympathies. A lot of fuss is made about "violence against women", "violence against blacks", "violence against gays" but not about just violence as a whole.
To make things worse, the system's logic of anarcho-tyranny means it not only does not provide the common citizen with safety, but also prohibits him from defending himself. Self-defense laws are strict and gun control, draconian. This is recent: gun control was greatly expanded with a 2003 statute. A 2005 referendum then saw a 63,94% vote in favor of gun rights, but all it did was prevent a blanket ban.
This translates to four policy and legislation issues: the extent legal punishment, police behavior and laws on gun use and self-defense.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:01:56 [Preview] No.19806 del
Public finances are in the red, with a R$ 124,4 billion deficit last year, a weak BRL (now floating around a quarter dollar, when it used to be worth half a dollar) and spiralling debt. Temer applied austerity to the extent that political constraints allowed it (that is, not enough to balance the budget) and there was, in fact, a modest recovery which only insability interrupted. However, this is unpopular at all levels. Our system works on high taxation and high subsidies -artists get "cultural funding", bydlos get direct cash payments and a host of other benefits, the military and portions of the civil service (e.g. the legal system) have grandiose economic privileges, businessmen get tax breaks and corporatism further entrenches interest groups. It's impossible to cut anything without facing severe resistance, so once gibs exceed revenue the most politically convenient course of action is just to pretend there's no deficit at all and let the following administrations handle the dumpster fire.
Pensions are a microcosm of this chaos: Temer failed to pass a reform that'd relieve debt at the expense of making retirement harder for the average man, and now whoever gets elected will have to deal with this hot potato. The additional burden placed on common people could be minimized if privileges were taken away from the aforementioned privileged castes, but the political cost of doing so is large. In fact, until a while ago, a loophole allowed even the great-granddaughters of Paraguayan War veterns to receive pensions. Some people also say that there's no pension deficit at all and thus nothing needs to be done. Either way, we're already below replacement rate fertility (1,78 right now) and are well on the way to becoming a senile nation in a few decades, so something needs to be done (no matter how unpopular) to prevent a disaster in the future.
Another point of contention is the 95th constitutional amendment passed in 2016 -the "spending roof amendment"- which limits public spending in most areas to the same values in the past year corrected for inflation. This is, of course, controversial among those who want to ramp up spending.
Centrists and conservatives want to solve this by reforming pensions, doing privatizations, having more flexible labor legislation, trimming the fat off the civil service (see, for instance, the number of Ministries, which peaked at 39 in 2015, all filled with political apointees and formed solely to hand out cabinet posts to coalition partners) and providing a moderate stimulus through reduced taxes. Leftists want to follow Dilma's approach and go full on stimulus (backed, of course, by some tax hikes) and believe that even if this failed to restore growth, we still have a moral obligation to handle the budget like Greece did.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:02:18 [Preview] No.19807 del
Foreign policy
Thousands of Venezuelans are pouring in from the border. They overburden the thinly populated frontier, increase crime and have an awful relationship with the local population. Centrists support them, conservatives want a more controlled process and leftists don't talk about it much because they're pro-Maduro.
More widely, there's a great rift on wheter our geopolitical alignment should be "normal" (de facto aligned towards America), as centrists and conservatives believe -with the latter insisting on a pointless and meaningless support for Israel- or Third World-centered, as leftists propose and carried out in the PT's years in power by allying and handing out millions of dollars to random African states aswell as leftist Latin American regimes such as Bolivia (which nationalized some Petrobras operations in its territory and faced only a meek, formal response), Venezuela and Cuba (something of a hub for the Latin American left, which assigns it great sentimental importance and relies on it to spread its ideology). Even FARC was treated with sympathy and our government refused to call it a terrorist organization allegedly Lula's campaign in 2002 was funded by the FARC, but this is just a rumour. Needless to say, said countries have done little in return.

Social issues
These ones see conservatives in one side and centrists and leftists on the other. There's the standard -weed, abortion, the gender wage gap- but what stands out compared to other countries is a debate on ideological bias in education. It is a fact that the majority of textbooks and teachers (being, after all, part of the low intelligentsia) lean left. I, for one, remember how my History and Geography textbooks in high school had a Third Worldist/pseudo-Maoist slant, describing the past and the present as a struggle between heroic brown peasants attempting to industrialize and their local and First World and attempting to fit past historical figures into this dichotomy . Hence, Solano López (19th century Kim Jong-Il), Zumbi dos Palmares (slaveowning former slave with aristocratic Kongo ancestry) and Antônio Conselheiro (religious fundamentalist and anti-tax crusader) all became heroes of the working class against the white-First Worlder opressors. On the bright side, thanks to this education I could already understand basic Marxist concepts by high school, and history was presented in a shallow but thorough (though ironically Eurocentric) manner. Later on this changed, with pressure from feminists and black power activists forcing some space to be assigned to topics such as general African history. Yes, even the history of African regions from which not a single slave came to our country and very little macrohistorical relevance. What makes this particularly controversial is that homeschooling is forbidden and all schools, public or private, must follow those same guidelines on what to teach. Activists have now organized to pressure for ideological neutrality in education and several bills have been proposed in this vein, none of which has been successful.
Another topic is the arts. Artists receive plenty of taxpayer money and sometimes use it to offend the religious sensitivities of most taxpayers and then, once outrage ensues, complain about censorship and how they have a right to receive public funding. Another incident involving massive anger was Temer's attempt to gut the Ministry of Culture: he soon had to back down after nonstop complaints from artists and the rest of the intelligentsia. See what I've wrote before about how every interest group guards its access to taxpayer money with zeal.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:03:04 [Preview] No.19808 del
The past
I've repeteadly mentioned the 1964-1985 military dictatorship in this thread, and it is indeed a political watershed of great relevance. Many engaged in the political struggle at the time are now in high positions of power (e.g. Dilma, a former terrorist) and it is thus fresh in the collective memory. Two narratives bitterly struggle for dominance: the politically correct and "official" understanding followed by centrists and leftists and revisionist rhetoric endorsed by some conservatives. Both of them are too ideologically and emotionally charged (with revanchism in the former and nostalgia in the latter) to properly assess the historical record.
The politically correct narrative: The 50s and 60s were golden years of public works and expanded labor rights. However, as soon as a social democratic proposed land reform and other bold measures, upper- and middle-class reactionaries backed by America deposed him through an equally reactionary military and built a totalitarian regime rested on force. This dictatorship proceeded to heavily censor the media, attempt to indoctrinate its populace through propaganda, relentlessly expand into the hinterland by displacing natives and the local vegetation, kill a massive number of heroic freedom fighters and greatly impoverish the lower classes. For these reasons, it faced resistance from the very beginning and ultimately had to step down.
The revisionist narrative: The 60s were an age of anarchy and the then-ruling president was a crypto-Communist setting us on the road to Bolshevization until the Armed Forces, following a tradition of selfless political intervention for the greater good, deposed him with popular backing, and it was thus a revolution rather than a coup. Nonetheless, democracy continued to exist as elections were still held and Congress still existed, with even military Presidents being indirectly elected for non-renewable five-year terms by parliamentarians and other posts elected directly. Censorship was soft and the only Marxist terrorist fighting for the dictatorship of the proletariat were killed. Peace and tranquility were restored, civilization expanded into the hinterland, astonishing levels of economic growth were achieved and major public works were completed. Only political maneuvering and pressure brought this glorious period to an end.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:03:21 [Preview] No.19809 del
Reality: A Keynesian and corporatist model adopted in the 30s reached its zenith in the 1950s. Then, the very same factors ensuring its golden age produced uncontrolled debt, inflation and left-wing political radicalism in the 60s. The ruling president may or may not have had inititiated bolshevization -evidence of this exists for Allende but I haven't seriously researched it for João Goulart. Backed by America, part of the middle and upper classes reacted with fear and responded with right-wing radicalization. This allowed rightists sections of a politically divided military to intervene and seize power in 1964-something it had done or threatened to do many times since 1889 and had in fact done so in the past decades. At first, moderates were in power and many expected a short transitional government that'd restore order and step down, but ideological polarization continued and military hardliners took over in 1967, curtailing civil rights in the following year. Congress continued to exist, though it was never in question who had the final word. As soon as the regime began to lose strength, oppositionists surged in elections, and rather than directly rigging results the regime merely appointed a few parliamentarians and changed electoral rules to fragment the opposition and favor states where it still had votes. This was no democracy, but it allowed a much smoother transition to one. The newly-established regime did, in fact, have broad popular support until its decaying late period. Order and tranquility were restored and economic chaos left by the previous boom&bust cycle was brought to an end. What followed was a new boom&bust cycle, with the 70s an economic miracle and the 80s a lost decade and the beginning of one of history's most prominent examples of hyperinflation. Major public works projects were achieved while others failed, and massive investment on said projects was one of the culprits for hyperinflation. Censorship was carried out, but failed to prevent an expansion of leftist thought in the press. Aside from propaganda, efforts to ideologically control citizens were modest in scope and also failed. Almost all victims of political violence were fighting for a dictatorship of the proletariat through violent means and themselves killed hundreds. Furthermore, the per capita death toll was much lower than in other Latin American dictatorships -just some hundred people out of 119 million (1980 census) over 21 years, a modest number compared to thousands in Cuba, Argentina and so on with much smaller populations. Economic decay and the Armed Forces' unwilligness to establish a lasting autocracy corroded the regime and a gradual transition to democracy began in the late 70s.
I could write more about this if there's interest.
How is this relevant to policy? As part of the transition to democracy, the regime granted amnesty to everyone, loyalist or oppositionist, involved in prior political struggles. Wounds were left quiet for a few decades, but former oppositionists now feel powerful enough to seek vengeance, with Dilma opening a "Truth Comission" with no sentencing power (as amnesty is still in effect) but the means to research everything the regime did -and not the opposition, of course. Some leftists want to push this further and publish confidential information aswell as revoke amnesty, making now senile culprits prosecutable. There's no comparable movement from the right to hunt down oppositionists for their past crimes, with an attitude of "forgive and forget" prevailing, and hence opposition to the Truth Comission.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:03:51 [Preview] No.19810 del
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And now, onto the candidates. Previous elections had two big ones, a third candidate, and several meme ones; however, thanks to our state of power vacuum our scenario was, until a couple weeks ago, of no less than five major candidates, with Bolsonaro comfortably in the lead. Minor candidates, too, have risen a notch up in interestingness.

Jair Bolsonaro, PSL
Our Trump, for good and for bad. A former Army captain who entered politics in Rio de Janeiro and stayed for decades on the sidelines, achieving little of note but also not getting involved in scandals. He rose from local to national prominance once several of his controversial statements were widely publicized in the last few years, and suddenly found himself with a fanbase and an ideal position to gather conservative voters. Lacking a party to call his own, he made an alliance with the PRTB and a deal with the PSL, which then became a platform for himself and his followers. As such, he has a microscopic coalition but an extensive voting base. His voter profile is the aforementioned conservatives, who have almost entirely joined him as he's the only one among the five who's aligned to them. But he's also hated by large swathes of the electorate for the same reasons he's in the lead. This is evident in which celebrities back him: no artists or intellectuals, but plenty of football players (as their mindset and universe are very close to the average everyman's), pastors and, curiously enough, the House of Orleans Braganza, with the current pretender's nephew running for São Paulo's Chamber of Deputies.
Bolsonaro's intelligence level, mindset, mannerisms and rhetoric closely align with the common bydlo's, which is a double-edged sword as it gives him wide working class appeal but can be a liability when he needs to be clever. His campaign centers on law & order, being the only candidate to give it the attention it's due and advocate harsh police activity and gun rights.
Social conservatism is his second most relevant topic. As the only mainstream candidate promoting it, it draws both massive support and massive rejection. He has repeatedly clashed with gay and feminist activists and shows no intention of backing theirs, or any other social movement's demands.
Economically, his nationalist background led him to follow a protectionist, state capitalist programme in the past, but ideological cross-pollination between liberals and conservatives in the opposition over the past two decades led him, along with many other conservatives, to embrace laissez-faire policies. He has at hand Paulo Guedes, a respected orthodox economist praised even by his centrist enemies. On the other hand, he still occasionally takes a populist stance or supports preserving pension and other privileges for classes who back him (such as the military).
Foreign policy isn't much of a concern for him. He wants stricter control over Venezuelan arrivals and a pro-Israel attitude.
His revisionist attitude towards '64 is also unique among mainstream candidates.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:04:12 [Preview] No.19811 del
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Fernando Haddad, PT
Lula's placeholder and puppet once courts had to clarify that no, a convicted and arrested criminal cannot run for President. Gained national relevance as Lula's Minister of Education, with mixed results, and later as São Paulo's mayor in 2012-2016, with a poorly regarded tenure that saw him promptly voted out after a single mandate. Like Dilma, Haddad has no charisma and skill of his own, and receives votes simply because he's a stand-in for Lula. In fact, there have even been cases of false and illegal campaign material with Lula's rather than Haddad's face and name on it being handed out. His campaign concentrates most leftist voters and counts on extremely well-organized activists aswell as Lula nostalgia. However, a large section of the electorate hates Lula with a burning passion, and he is thus a high-vote, high-rejection candidate like Bolsonaro.
His key point is economics, where he attempts to remind everyone of Lula's golden years, obfuscates Dilma's rule and blames the crisis on Temer. His solution is public works, expanding gibs, revoking the spending roof amendment and raising taxes on the rich. He also wants legislation to restrain media oligopolies, which is a rehearsal of several other of his party's past thinly veiled attempts to punish media empires they dislike.
On law & order, he wants to federalize operations against drug dealers but lower incarceration rates and have a softer approach on crime and a crackdown on possession of weapons.
His foreign policy would be a return to Dilma's. Now that Venezuelans are pouring in from the border he has tried to hide past claims of support for Chavez and Maduro, but his government would de facto back Venezuela's regime as Lula and Dilma always did.
He also wants greater ideological discussion in schools, racial quotas for electoral candidates, and, quite dangerously, convoke a Constituent Assembly -likely a move to bypass an unfriendly Congress, as Maduro did.
His VP is a qt communist (PCdoB).

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:04:55 [Preview] No.19812 del
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Ciro Gomes, PDT
Hailing from a family of oligarchs prominent in regional politics at the miserable northeastern state of Ceará, he spent a long political career in the state but led the Center-Left in three presidential campaigns as part of the PSB ('98, '02 and '06). With some charisma of his own, scandals that aren't well-remembered nationwide and a sometimes manly attitude that has been compared to Bolsonaro's, he gathers moderate leftist voters and some centrists without facing the same hostility Haddad has.
Like Haddad, he focuses on economics, but the Center Left has always been more sophisticated in this area than the PT and so is he. He wants revenue raised by revoking tax breaks and raising taxes, a weakened BRL to favor exports, a lower interest rate and massive stimulation. He also has a program to transfer some private debts to the state, which has been successfully marketed to bydlos as debt forgiveness, which it isn't. It was successful enough that Haddad made a copycat promise. He often speaks in formal economic terms and gives lots of numbers, which fools people into thinking he knows what he's talking about.
His foreign policy has a twist, as he wants a pro-Chinese alignment.
He has some plans to centralize law enforcement but a very harsh stance against gun ownership. He hasn't spoken out in favor of abortion, but wants school textbooks to be more empowering to women.

Geraldo Alckmin, PSDB
A senile, old, worn-out PSDB figure who once ran for President in 2006. As the ruling Center & Right coalition's de facto candidate, he has a massive coalition (and hence, the most TV time) and campaign budget. Four years ago, his party gathered both the centrist and conservative presidential votes and was expected to be either the first or the second most voted now. But even then, he has had a lackluster performance in opinion polls and a cold reception among voters. Leftists always hated him, conservatives have moved to Bolsonaro and even centrists consider him a relic of the past and only vote for him with reluctance. His voters are thus only centrists, and unenthusiastic and lethargic like him. His party even had a somewhat charismatic figure that was on the rise -João Dória, São Paulo's mayor after Haddad- but Alckmin wanted all the glory for himself and now his party can say goodbye to the Presidency.
He advocates his party's old platform of liberal social democracy, with modest stimulus aswell as revenue savings through privatizations and cutting off some ministries. Although progressive on social themes and law enforcement, Bolsonaro's popularity led him to endorse gun rights, but only for rural citizens.

Marina Silva, REDE
Former environmental activist from Acre (i.e. the middle of nowhere) who gained notoriety after becoming Lula's Environmental Minister. She later broke with the PT and became the Center-Left third candidate in 2010 and 2014, racking up 20% of the vote in the later case. Marina draws the environmentally concerned and a mostly female, cosmopolitan electorate of centrists with little ideological fervor and a distrust for other candidates. Weak in appearence and mannerisms, she draws sympathy from part of the electorate but indifference from everyone else.
Her positions are middle-ground or progressive on most issues, with a particular emphasis on environmentalism. Whenever asked about controversial topics, she drifts into platitudes about "democratically deciding", "building consensus" and "dialogue is the only solution" instead of taking a solid stance.

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João Amoedo, NOVO
Former banker and only libertarian candidate. His voter profile overlaps with part of Bolsonaro's: well-off, highly-educated and relatively young voters with an anti-socialist mindset. It is, however, tiny, and few people are aware of his movement and its principles.
His proposals are idealistic and would face massive resistance if he ever came to power: ending tax breaks and public funding for parties revoking gun control, reforming and lowering taxes, cutting off red tape, carrying off privatization and pension reform and reducing privileges for the highest-paid civil servants. To top it all of, he promises to live on his own in Brasília and avoid using his presidential privileges. He is, however, cautious on drug legalization and abortion and does not support them at the moment.

Álvaro Dias, Podemos
Center-right candidate with a solid political career. Notable for being, along with Bolsonaro and Amoedo, the only one to support gun rights and harsher law enforcement. However, he isn't even disliked, he's just not known of -everyone's heard of Amoedo, but Dias' name is unheard of. He might as well not exist.

João Goulart Filho, PPL
Son of João Goulart, who was deposed in the '64 coup. Is Álvaro Dias' leftist counterpart: nobody knows or cares about him.

Guilherme Boulos, PSOL
"Social activist" who led squatters in a number of property invasions and then ran mafia-style protection rackets on the squatters. Draws in votes from the wokest of the woke.
Wants large tax hikes, an abandonment of commitments to achieve a balanced budget, deprivatizing some former state businesses, legalize weed (#1 reason his voters love him) and abortion, crack down on guns, censor media outlets who show harsh rhetoric against crime and dedicate 1% of the GDP to fighting violence against women.

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Henrique Meirelles, MDB
De jure government candidate, even though Alckmin is the de facto established candidate. Why, and for what reason does the largest party in the country only have a minor candidate? Some observers say Meirelles was launched as a "sponge" to absorb anti-Temer resentment and thus direct it away from Alckmin. He is thus a hated candidate.
Meirelles is a well-connected orthodox economist who once worked in America and later served under Lula. He describes himself as an apolitical technocrat who cannot make any grandiose promises but will do his best with his extensive technical knowledge and lack of ideological hate. His policies are as orthodox as they get, though for centrism and moderation (TM)'s sake he also promises to fight the gender wage gap.

Eymael, DC
Vintage religious right candidate, has continually ran in every presidential election since 1998. His policies are more populist than orthodox, but nobody cares about them -what he's widely known for is his ear worm campaign tune. Just hear it for yourself:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=U24md-QSHnc [Embed]

Vera Lúcia, PSTU
Batshit insane Trotskyist woman with a proletarian background. Wants to roll back all reforms of the last few years, declare bankruptcy and confiscate without any compensation all schools, hospitals, large plots of land, previously privatized state enterprises, the entire financial sector and the country's 100 largest businesses.

Cabo Daciolo, PATRI
I've left this one for the last because he's the ultimate meme candidate. A firefighter with a leftist background on conducting strikes and participating in the PSOL, he was kicked out of said party only a few years ago due to his Protestant religious fundamentalism- PSOL is a virulently anti-clerical party. His rhetoric and proposals (such as spending 10% of the GDP on the military) are a bizarre combination of class warfare and religiosity. His meme status was sealed by a number of past and current actions, including but not limited to:
>Claims Freemasons and the Illuminati are out to murder him, and thus spends most of his campaign time praying in the hills with his followers. This is where the pictures I've previously posted of him came from.
>Constantly says "GLORY TO GOD" in a thick Rio accent
>Accused Ciro Gomes of being part of a nonexistant Latin American socialist federation whose name was first mentioned as a joke within an opinion column two decades ago
>Claims he'll sweep the first round with over 80% of the vote
>Names other Protestant figures as Freemasons, criticizes Parliament's Protestant caucus
>Wants to expel Freemasonry from the country
>Makes prophecies and speaks in tongues
>Wanted to amend the Constitution from "all power flows from the people" to "all power flows from God"
>Campaigns through long videos taken in the jungle at night and posted on social media
>Thrashes other candidates as hypocrites
He has known become a very popular meme and his catchphrase is repeated ad nauseum.

Bernd 10/05/2018 (Fri) 23:07:44 [Preview] No.19815 del
Poll chronology
Until about two weeks ago, Bolsonaro was well ahead with ~20% of the vote while the other four were at around 10% and bitterly struggling to face against Bolsonaro in the second round, with Ciro Gomes in the lead. Minor candidates all had 0-3% of the vote. Second round voting scenarios saw Ciro Gomes with a solid margin over Bolsonaro. This changed as undecided voters took a side and, once Lula's campaign was declared illegal, the PT formalized Haddad as his replacement, allowing him to surge. In turn, Bolsonaro had a surge after the attempt on his life but then stagnated and for a time it seemed he'd lose to Haddad in the second round. However, this week Bolsonaro's numbers have once again surged (reaching 35% in the latest poll) while Haddad stagnated and saw his rejection rate rapidly climb and nearly reach Bolsonaro's. It is now clear that there'll be a Bolsonaro-Haddad second round (albeit some are hyped for an unlikely Bolsonaro victory in the first round), with polls showing Bolsonaro ahead -but only by a modest margin, so anything can happen. On the second round he'll have a massive boost in designated TV time and will be in better health, while voter migration from defeated candidates to Bolsonaro and Haddad will also reshape the scenario, making its end hard to predict.

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forgot pic

Bernd 10/06/2018 (Sat) 19:56:03 [Preview] No.19829 del
This was the last post I read for now.
My opinion is - based on your writing -: no matter who's gonna win, Brazil is fucked.
No real change can be achieved without cutting into the privileges of... well, everyone. This guarantees political suicide - and maybe during the process angering such criminal organizations which can arrange actual death of the would be reformer - and hands out the fruits of the work to the opposition who will drive the country back into chaos and debt as keeping the popularity would mean to give out the gibmedats again and they would do it without a remorse as they will be just as shortsighted as they were before.
And noone will try implement such measures that would undermine it's position.

I'll read the rest as soon as I'm able to.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 14:01:07 [Preview] No.19841 del
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huelections today
time to find Russian bot spam that tries to divide an already fucked nation

Huebernd Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 14:39:33 [Preview] No.19842 del
There have already been complaints about Bolsonaro allegedly using bots in his online campaign, but so far nobody has pulled the Russia card.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 15:21:40 [Preview] No.19843 del
>once courts had to clarify that no, a convicted and arrested criminal cannot run for President
This is really difficult topic indeed. On one hand Lula is a convicted felon so he can't and on the other he's a convicted felon so he can't. I absolutely understand the complication this presents when they had to decide if he can run or not.

>Ey, Ey, Eymael, Ey, Ey, Ayylmao
Those tittays.

>confiscate without any compensation all schools, hospitals, large plots of land, previously privatized state enterprises, the entire financial sector and the country's 100 largest businesses.
Not a bad idea. These can be privatized for good moneys. Or for low price but with good bribe.

>>Thrashes other candidates as hypocrites
Pretty safe bet, we're talking about politicians, aren't we.

To be frank, from all of the above Bolsanaro seems to be the most sane choice. I'm curious how things will turn out.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 16:58:41 [Preview] No.19850 del
Found this.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 17:24:12 [Preview] No.19851 del
News said that there are erections in Bosnia too. There shouldn't be surprises as people just vote for the nationalists of their ethnicity.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 18:05:20 [Preview] No.19854 del
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Temporary political fluctuations do give enough momentum for some reductions of privileges to take place, but as long as the entire system is still based on a chaotic zero-sum battle for privileges/"rights" between pressure groups we'll always periodically be on the brink of collapse. Every country has this to some extent, but our case is particularly harsh because of ancient political traditions and fascist-style corporativism implemented in the 30s and preserved since then.

>Pretty safe bet, we're talking about politicians, aren't we.
Some more Daciolo facts:
-All candidates must declare their wealth to authorities. He simply stated he owned no property and thus had $0.
-His entire campaign cost R$738, gaining about as many votes as Meirelles, who spend R$ 44 million.
-Embracing his meme status, he posted these on his official Twitter account.

>I'm curious how things will turn out.
Scenario #1: Bolsonaro wins, PSL +conservative sections of the Center and Right form the core of his coalition whilst moderates within Center and Right have to be bought with cabinet posts, restricting his ability to trim off fat but securing a large coalition. Pension reform drains a lot of political capital and prevents him from passing his social conservative proposals such as reduced gun control. Liberalization allows the early recovery seen under Temer's austerity to return (keep in mind markets have responded positively to Bolsonaro), spearheaded by an agricultural sector unburdened by environmental or Amerindian concerns. Meanwhile, high-brow media will bash him at every moment. He'll then have a good chance of winning the 2022 elections aswell as expand and consolidate the PSL, but without this year's enthusiasm.

Scenario #2: Haddad wins and stays true to all of his rhetoric. Greater gibsmedats make bydlos euphoric, but an unfriendly Congress prevents his more radical proposals from going through. Once he tries to go through with his most institutionally dangerous promises (media regulation, a Constituent Assembly) Congress might just as well topple his minority government like it did to Dilma's, and we're back to 2016.

Scenario #3: Same as above, but Haddad remains in power. Venezuelization ensues as radical proposals are enacted and cause long-term economic destruction while the PT strengthens its grip in power.

Scenario #4: Haddad wins and Lula's inner pragmatist instructs him to follow a course similar to his 2002-2006 mandate. The Center is bought out, gibsmedats are handed out to rich and poor alike and everyone is happy as the economy recovers and Haddad (or a pardonned Lula) wins in 2022. However, the boom-bust trait of this model rears its ugly head and stagnation followed by recession commence. At this point the PT's radicalism makes a comeback and impeachment or Venezuelization happen several years down the line.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 18:06:15 [Preview] No.19855 del
*who spent

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 18:07:59 [Preview] No.19856 del
They vote for like three Presidents or something.

Huebernd Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 18:09:12 [Preview] No.19857 del
Belgium tyre

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 21:29:27 [Preview] No.19869 del
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letting nazis escape to South America was a mistake

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 22:49:14 [Preview] No.19870 del
79,25% of votes counted so far. At 48,03%, Bolsonaro is 7 points ahead of the last poll but still behind the magical 50% threshold needed to win the first round.
A Bolsonaro surge expected in the Northeast did not materialize, but while in some states Haddad has a margin of several dozen points ahead of him, on others he's only a few points ahead.
What's new is that not only Bolsonaro buries the old right and takes every single one of the PSDB's states, but also flipped two previously PT-voting states (Amazonas and Rio de Janeiro) aswell as a key swing state (Minas Gerais)
Another new thing: Marina Silva's presidential ambitions are dead. She is now officially a minor/meme candidate, with less votes than Amoêdo, Meirelles and Daciolo.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 22:52:44 [Preview] No.19871 del
Also, Haddad flipped Acre, a previously right-wing state.

Bernd 10/07/2018 (Sun) 23:25:07 [Preview] No.19872 del
He didn't, I must've misread the map.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 00:19:43 [Preview] No.19873 del
Only 58 seats have been counted for Congress so far and Bolsonaro's Party has already won 7.

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Results by state since 2006. After over a decade of decline, the PT now retreats to its core in the Northeast while Bolsonaro sweeps the rest of the country.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 02:05:58 [Preview] No.19875 del
And now, at the local level. A curious pattern has emerged: although in the South and Southeast conservative votes are still strongest in small, mostly white towns, state capitals and other major cities have the greatest percentage of Bolsonaro votes in the North and Northeast. This is most prominanent in Amazonas, where Manaus (over 2 million people, heavy industry and an international airport) single-handedly flipped its entire state, defeating all of its other municipalities (2 million people spread over a number of poor towns with little infrastructure). In Pará, Rio Grande do Norte, Paraíba and Alagoas, state capitals voted for Bolsonaro while the rest of their states still voted for Haddad as a whole. I have no clue why this pattern exists, but one reason may be that larger cities are better connected to the wider pro-Bolsonaro trend in the country.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 02:07:15 [Preview] No.19876 del
Though comparing it with the 2014 map, it seems this trend already existed and has merely become more pronounced.

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Not bad.

So Bolsanaro won by a large 46% compared to Haddad's 29,3 but he did't get over 50% of the votes so second round incoming.

It seems in Bosnia the moderate Croat beat the nationalist one, however the separatist Serb won in the Serb areas.
Here the kernel of the problem is that the country has two entities a Bosnian-Croat and a Serb. The Serbs want to secede and nationalists support this, moderates want to stay. In the Bosnian-Croat part the nationalist Croats want to create their own entity similar to the Serb one, moderates don't. But then it's safe to say if they have that part then they'll work toward secession just like the Serbs do.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 08:08:44 [Preview] No.19878 del
So is this good? Do you think he'll be able to win the 2nd round by himself or will he need to compromise and form coalitions?

Other questions:
How much pro-USA is Bolsnaro? Knowing the pattern I'm guessing a lot, but, let's say just to quantify it, how many more military bases would USA be deploying to the area?
What's in that block of green counties in the very north of the country? It is also partially blue in the 2014 map.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 14:07:14 [Preview] No.19882 del
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Now this is an impressive Lower House. Although pragmatic opportunists are still in the majority, ideological parties have made great headway, with PT becoming largest party (56 seats), PSL jumping from a tiny party to second largest with 52 seats, NOVO getting 8 seats in its very first election and the MDB reduced to fourth place. Classifying parties according to my previous listing, the Right now has 24%, the Center 46%, the Center-Left 7% and the Left 20%. Once conservatives in the Center (particularly the "Cattle, Guns, Bibles" caucus) are factored in, Bolsonaro already has a solid parliamentary core and can easily reach an absolute majority by buying out the rest of the Center.
Apparently DEM, PR, PP, PTB, PRB and SD are already on Bolsonaro's side. Combined with the PSL, that's already 204 seats or 39% of Congress. DC and PATRI are very likely to join and add 6 seats to that list. NOVO and PSDB can be negotiated with for 37 seats.
Meanwhile, Marina Silva's party wins five senators but only a single congressman -about as much as Eymael's party, which now secured a seat.

>So is this good?
He just flipped two huge states and several minor ones, it's a miracle.
>Do you think he'll be able to win the 2nd round by himself or will he need to compromise and form coalitions?
He probably can win the secound round alone, but vote transfer from other candidates (like Amoêdo) would certainly help. But he'll likely still need to compromise in order to build a parliamentary coalition.

>How much pro-USA is Bolsnaro?
He used to be of a nationalistic, anti-American far right, but gradually turned into a neocon.
>how many more military bases would USA be deploying to the area?
Zero, they don't have any need for bases at the moment.
>What's in that block of green counties in the very north of the country? It is also partially blue in the 2014 map.
That's Roraima. As I explained in a previous politics thread, it's right at the frontier of settlement and agricultural expansion and thus votes conservative due to a general hinterland mindset and opposition to environmental and pro-Amerindian policies that burden its dynamic export-based economy. For this same reason In Roraima's case, there's also the border with Venezuela and its refugees, which have been greeted with hostility in the state.

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 19:37:15 [Preview] No.19886 del
Next round when?

Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 23:26:48 [Preview] No.19893 del
28th of October.

sage Bernd 10/08/2018 (Mon) 23:30:55 [Preview] No.19894 del
News of the day: Haddad visited his master on his cell in Curitiba and stated both of them will be together climbing the presidential palace's ramp on the 1st of January.

Bernd 10/09/2018 (Tue) 17:29:11 [Preview] No.19907 del
That scene would deserve a painting. Maybe in baroque style.

Bernd 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:12:21 [Preview] No.19942 del
Power struggle in the PSDB
João Dória has been an internal rival to Geraldo Alckmin ever since the latter and his friends at the party's helm blocked his presidential ambitions. However, Dória ran for governor of São Paulo and reached the second round in the lead, whereas Alckmin's leadership has just plunged his party into its worst electoral defeat in history, losing every single one of its strongholds and several dozen million voters at the presidential level.
Seeing a golden opportunity unravel before his eyes, Dória defied orders from his higher-ups and rapidly maneuvered, declaring his support for Bolsonaro, expelling one of Alckmin's protegés aswell as an ally of José Serra (another senile party figure) from the PSDB's São Paulo (municipal) section -a move condemned by the party's national leadership- and openly campaigning for Alckmin to step down from the party's command and hand it to him.
Alckmin and Dória met face to face little more than an hour ago on a national party meeting in Brasília to decide their stance on Bolsonaro vs. Haddad. In a tense, bellicose atmosphere, Dória was quashed and the party decided not to declare its support for either candidate. Several sources say Alckmin called Dória a traitor and a coward and there's even a leaked audio from the incident.
However, Dória has not yet been sacked, so it remains to be seen how a discredited and demoralized Alckmin will deal with his party's most critical local cell being led by an ambitious dissident that has just purged his own internal opposition.

sage Bernd 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:44:43 [Preview] No.19944 del
Meanwhile, Haddad proclaimed financial markets will have to bend over to his will and accidentally said he sympathizes with attacks against a journalist's freedom of expression whilst attempting to say he sympathizes with the journalist on Twitter. On the campaign trail, he expressed his intention to release criminals arrested for only small deeds from prisons.
Fun Haddad fact #1: one of his key proposals to fight crime is installing LED lights across the country.
Fun Haddad fact #2: his nickname is "lamppost" ever since he was called such during in his first São Paulo mayoral run due to his lack of individual strength and reliance on Lula's support. Their clever comeback was that "our lampposts will light up the nation".

Political tensions in everyone's day-to-day conversations are heating up and have reached a level of hostility unseen in the first round. There's a full-blown Brown Scare going rampant, with genuine fears that Bolsonaro will dissolve Congress with military backing in his first day in power and nonstop talk about "fascism". Conservatives can't respond with a realistic definition of fascism because they themselves have spread the boomer "socialism=fascism" meme.
I'm afraid I'll end up revealing my power level if I end up discussing with too many people over politics, I better lay low.

Bernd 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:52:44 [Preview] No.19945 del
Didn't even sage right

Bernd 10/10/2018 (Wed) 18:42:32 [Preview] No.19964 del
Why would you sage anyway?

Some parties also fall apart here, members attacking and blaming each other for the spring defeat.

Some context?

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 01:04:16 [Preview] No.19967 del
>Why would you sage anyway?
Well, I originally meant to write everything in a single post and did not find it polite to make an unsaged second post. On second thought that's meaningless, particularly on a tiny board like this.

>Some context?
Nothing here is ever original, everything is just a bootleg copy of a First World concept. One such case is local conservatives picking up the American neocon discourse that fascism can be reduced to authoritarianism + economic collectivism and is therefore socialist as socialism is also authoritarianism + economic collectivism. One could seriously discuss connections between fascism and progressivism by examining shared attitudes towards Europe's old aristocratic order, intellectual roots or post-French Revolution concepts, but neocons don't know or care about that and just dumb it down to a political alignment chart. What stands behind this is merely a political desire to slander their opponents by association rather than any serious historical inquiry. Centrists have it even worse, as they are completely clueless to what fascism is and just use it as a synonym for any kind of authoritarianism.
What's really needed right now is getting people to know a proper historical definition of fascism and why it does not apply to any left- or right-wing Latin American movement at the moment, but it's election time and nobody cares about truthfulness.

The first 2nd round polls have come out. Bolsonaro has 58% of valid votes, and Haddad, 42%. Here's a demographic breakdown:

By gender:
Men - 63% Bolsonaro, 37% Haddad
Women - 52%/48%
By age:
16-24 - 53%/47%
25-34 - 60%/40%
35-44 - 57%/43%
45-59 - 57%/43%
>60 - 61%/39%
By level of education:
Elementary school - 47%/53%
High school - 62%/38%
University - 66%/44%
By level of wealth:
<2 minimum wages - 46%/54%
2-5 minimum wages - 66%/34%
5-10 minimum wages - 69%/31%
>10 minimum wages - 67%/33%
By region:
South - 70%/30%
Southeast - 64%/36%
Midwest - 69%/31%
North - 56%/44%
Northeast - 38%/62%
By municipality type:
Capital and capital metropolitan region - 59%/41%
Hinterland - 57%/43%
By municipality population:
<50 thousand - 52%/48%
50-200 thousand - 62%/38%
200-500 thousand - 66%/34%
>500 thousand - 58%/42%
By favored party:
PT - 6%/94%
MDB - 71%/29%
PSDB - 88%/12%
''PSL' - 98%/2%
PDT - 33%/67%
PSOL - 18%/82%
NOVO - 87%/13%
Other - 68%/32%
None - 73%/27%
By religion:
Catholic - 53%/47%
Protestant - 70%/30%
''Spiritist' - 42%/58%
African pagan - 47%/53%
Irreligious - 49%/51%
By race:
Pardo - 54%/46%
White - 68%/32%
Black - 45%/55%
Asian - 59%/41%
Amerindian - 53%/47%

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 05:28:43 [Preview] No.19970 del
I don't find it impolite not here and not on a larger board.

>American neocon discourse that fascism can be reduced to...
Ah, I understand now.

So basically those voted to Haddad who live in the poorer areas, are poor and less educated.
There are some other points where I see more drastic contrast between the two but some can be explained with the above (eg. by race I feel safe to assume that whites live in richer states, themselves have more wealth and better educated than the others.)

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 18:56:00 [Preview] No.19978 del
Fascism ISN'T JUST AUTHORITARIANISM + ECONOMIC COLLECTIVISM. They don't make use of confiscation, they still allow private property and self-motivation. Corporations (National Syndicates) also work WITH the State, in Marxism, everything is under the state. THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 19:07:43 [Preview] No.19982 del
>There are some other points where I see more drastic contrast between the two but some can be explained with the above (eg. by race I feel safe to assume that whites live in richer states, themselves have more wealth and better educated than the others.)
Though in some cases it doesn't overlap -for instance, Protestants aren't wealthier or more educated than Catholics (it's usually the opposite).

That's what I'm saying, it's senseless boomer rhetoric.

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 19:09:09 [Preview] No.19983 del
Socialism neither. It's just an ideology which deals with equality. The funny thing that such Socialists like Marxists or Bolsheviks wanted to create equality by the "collectivization" of the personal wealth. Taking away the individual's property and giving it to the State which in their system is/was a third party and not just an institution of the collective (or the community).

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 19:10:10 [Preview] No.19984 del
Protestants are usually more independent and industrious tho.

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 19:53:20 [Preview] No.19985 del
What was the industrial output of the Protestants in the Ottoman empire?

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 19:56:58 [Preview] No.19986 del
Protestants barely existed in the Ottoman Empire. There were only a few English expatriates, that's it really. Most of the subjects were Orthodox, and the Hungarians were Catholic.

Bernd 10/11/2018 (Thu) 20:22:39 [Preview] No.19987 del
>Hungarians were Catholic.
Nod really. Debrecen for example was called the Calvinist Rome at the time of the Ottoman occupation, large part of the Hungarians were Protestants around that part. Also check Thirty Years' War.

I don't think much. The population and the economy of the occupied Hungarian areas continuously suffered from the permanent fighting. That's pretty bad for business.

Bernd 10/12/2018 (Fri) 05:13:10 [Preview] No.19989 del
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There's now a flurry of alleged hate crimes blamed on Bolsonaro, with poorly-drawn swastikas mysteriously appearing throughout the country.

Meanwhile, both candidates are seeking out a wider base, with Haddad stating he'll be true to Catholic principles and Bolsonaro joking to a young gay man that "my kiss will cure you".

And now, a look at some notable individuals who did or did not get elected:

Acir Gurgacz, PDT/Rondônia: Ran for Senator and failed, only getting third place. Second place was some dude named Confucius. Made headlines after getting arrested just a few days after the elections for financial fraud.

Anthony Garotinho, PRP/Rio de Janeiro: former governor, presidential candidate and Brizola ally. Ran for Senator, but saw his campaign declared illegal due to a previous condemnation over R$ 234 million government funds embezzled in 2005-6, and that's just one of his many corruption scandals. Nonetheless, he managed to receive over 80 thousand votes, which were promptly declared invalid.

Alexandre Frota,PSL/São Paulo: former porn actor and tranny conoisseur turned into a popular pro-Bolsonaro activist. Landed 152 thousand votes. Was still telling people he'd fuck their mothers and then fuck them in the ass on Twitter as late as last September.

Tiririca,PR/São Paulo: you've probably already heard of him-this is the literal clown who reached record vote counts on slogans such as "It can't get any worse" and "Do you know what a congressman does? I don't, either. Vote for me and I'll tell you." Promised his career was over earlier on but broke his vows and comfortably secured 445 thousand votes.

Luiz Philippe of Orleans and Braganza, PSL/São Paulo: nephew of the current pretender to the throne. A businessman and intellectual, he recently gained fame through media appearences and a book outlining his vision of the country. Running for congressman, he got himself a seat with 116 thousand votes. A qualified and well-meaning individual, though, as some of his own relatives noted, it is perhaps degrading for someone of his birth to not only join a republican institution but also the most reviled one.

Dilma Rousseff, PT/Minas Gerais: No explanation needed. Sought a senatorial post and failed.

Aécio Neves, PSDB/Minas Gerais: Dilma's opponent in 2014. The most charismatic figure within the PSDB's older generation, he held a senatorial post and was slated to run for President this year until his name was involved in major corruption scandals, leading him to lose his seat... until courts ruled he could assume it again months later. However, with his political capital depleted, he was only able to downgrade to a lower level, running for Congress and winning a seat with over a hundred thousand votes. Also famous for being a cocaine addict.

Kim Kataguiri, DEM/São Paulo: 22-year old cofounder and prominent leader within a grassroots liberal opposition movement. Achieved 465 thousand votes and power has now apparently got to his head, as he has already declared his intention to become speaker of the house.

Luis Miranda, DEM/Federal District: Youtuber who gives legal and business advice to migrants who want to enter America. Got elected with 65 thousand votes.

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Bernd 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:18:37 [Preview] No.20000 del
What a colorful personalities. Our politicians are conservative (now not in political sense) compared to them. Maybe Toroczkai with his skinhead, semi-skinhead background and perhaps another one whomsts's name I can't recall right now.

Bavarian State Election Bernd 10/14/2018 (Sun) 17:56:02 [Preview] No.20045 del
Blau-Weiß Austrians having an election coz that's how the Reich ist wörking.
Literally the first (second) link I found:

CSU - Christian Socialist Union, the great Ally of Merkel's CDU - note: literally RAF
SPD - Social Democrats - note: literally RAF
Grüne - Greens - note: literally RAF
FW - "Free" Voters - note: literally RAF
FDP - "Free" Democratic Party - note: literally RAF
Die Linke - Not right. - note: now this one is for sure is RAF, no giddings
AfD - Alternatively Germans - note: literally Hitler

Exit polls out:
CSU is the great loser even if it got the most votes, their popularity dropped from about 48% to 35%. Still they are the strongest even though they need to form a coalition. Question is with whom?
SPD also lost voters, with their 10% they were pushed behind AfD.
The two great winner of the election is the Greens (18%) and the AfD (11%), the latter got in the Bavarian parliament for the first time. I bet now they are planning a Putsch in some shady Münchener Brauhaus.

Our King Sigismund's Estate a.k.a. Drunk Dude's Hometown elections Bernd 10/14/2018 (Sun) 18:21:47 [Preview] No.20046 del
Luxembourg also elects her 60 deputies today.
What is interesting that the have a literal Communist Party. Very interesting. Even our commies aren't go with that name, but with Worker's Party.
Otherwise very boring party list, they have the whole shebang. "Christian socialists", "democrats", "socialists", "greens", "pirates", "alternatives", whatever. And actually if we really scratch the surface there ain't too much of a difference between them, just like everywhere else. The whole thing is "refugees welcome" and "refugees fuck off". Otherwise just playing with percentages in the budget. This is Freedom of Choice for you.

Bernd 10/15/2018 (Mon) 23:09:37 [Preview] No.20083 del
New poll from one of the two major survey companies is out. The past week seemed positive for Haddad, with hate crime scandals falling upon Bolsonaro (with some people I known seriously believing gays and blacks will be lynched in the streets if Haddad loses), major strides towards the center (such as attending Mass and proclaiming himself a good Catholic), Bolsonaro's refusal to take part in debates and the apparent and anedoctal support from voters who stayed neutral in the first round but have now joined him solely because they think Bolsonaro is a fascist.
And yet Bolsonaro not only preserved his lead but expanded it by a point, reaching 59%. The survey also found Haddad's rejection rate is 12 points higher than Bolsonaro's.

Bernd 10/16/2018 (Tue) 13:27:47 [Preview] No.20097 del
Wait but are these Protestants as you would understand them in Europe or are you talking about that sect popular in Brazil? Evangelion something.

>"Do you know what a congressman does? I don't, either. Vote for me and I'll tell you."
>445 thousand votes.
So this dude's now a congressman with 3 times as many votes as his nobleman colleague, uh?

Were the media polls accurate enough during the 1st round?

Bernd 10/16/2018 (Tue) 13:39:19 [Preview] No.20099 del
>former porn actor
>Was still telling people he'd fuck their mothers and then fuck them in the ass
>152 thousand votes
Oh and this dude got elected too I guess.

>former porn actor and tranny conoisseur turned into a popular pro-Bolsonaro activist
How can this possibly work? Did Bolsonaro acknowledge him in any way or is it all just a fucking joke like with the other clown.

Bernd 10/16/2018 (Tue) 21:39:17 [Preview] No.20127 del
>Wait but are these Protestants as you would understand them in Europe or are you talking about that sect popular in Brazil? Evangelion something.
They're usually called "evangelicals". A minority belong to traditional European denominations such as Lutheranism, but they're ethnic churches concentrated in a few 19th century or earlier settler communities. But most are recent bydlo converts to unconventional denominations, and so Protestantism as a whole is seen as a bydlo phenomenon.

>So this dude's now a congressman with 3 times as many votes as his nobleman colleague, uh?
He's been in power for several mandates already. 445 thousand votes is actually a downgrade from his earlier performance in 2010, when he broke records and got 1,353,766 votes.

>Were the media polls accurate enough during the 1st round?
The last major polls before voting inflated minor candidates and underestimated both Bolsonaro and Haddad's voting count by 4-5 points.
What's funny about polling is that for a long time, Bolsonaro's voters were claiming the polls were rigged against him. Then, when in the last week before the first round Bolsonaro just continually rose, leftists were the ones claiming poll numbers were faked.

>Did Bolsonaro acknowledge him in any way
He did, and even joked about appointing him to Minister of Culture. What you need to keep in mind is firstly, that although Frota is still naught in his language, he has tried to redeem himself; secondly, Bolsonaro has become increasingly soft and politically correct over time; and thirdly, that this is a Med culture and bydlos are not too concerned about a masculine man whose only homosexual experiences are exclusively active and with trannies.

>is it all just a fucking joke like
Everything is a joke.

sage Bernd 10/16/2018 (Tue) 21:39:44 [Preview] No.20128 del
still naughty in his language

Bernd 10/17/2018 (Wed) 20:07:33 [Preview] No.20143 del
>Everything is a joke.
Very true statement. Especially in politics.

Bernd 10/18/2018 (Thu) 12:22:50 [Preview] No.20152 del
>He's been in power for several mandates already
What hte fuck. So by now he should have already fulfilled his promise of explaining what a congressman does.

>Frota has tried to redeem himself
>brazilian bydlos: fucking traps is not gay
>Bolsonaro has become increasingly soft and politically correct over time
Too bad to hear that. Somehow I got the impression that he valued virtue and morality but he's just a politician after all, winning matters most and it would be difficult without the uncultured masses. Hail Democracy!
Hopefully is just an affectation and a Bolsonaro presidency will still strongly uphold traditional values.

Bernd 10/18/2018 (Thu) 16:31:08 [Preview] No.20162 del
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>Hopefully is just an affectation and a Bolsonaro presidency will still strongly uphold traditional values.
All that will realistically happen is a blockade on progressive legislation and the reduction or elimination of current state programs that endorse social progressivism and fund activists. This will be a good thing and create a lot of butthurt in the opposition but ultimately do little do stop societal trends that have been set in motion long ago -the state as a whole and much less just the cabinet and ruling coalition can only nudge these things in the direction they desire rather than pull off immediate change, particularly when they're fighting against the current.

News of the day: an arrest warrant has been issued for Eurípedes Júnior, current head of the Republican Party of Social Order, over his participation in a scheme to embezzle funds earmarked for purchasing medical gases. As of last hour, he had not yet been captured or given in and his whereabouts are unknown. His party issued a note clarifying they have no involvement in any illegal acts, but did not specify his location.

Bernd 10/19/2018 (Fri) 22:13:14 [Preview] No.20169 del
Some bigger news later yesterday. Endchan was down so I couldn't post.

A new poll was out. Bolsonaro is still at 59%, no changes since last weekend. Once abstentions and blank&invalid votes are factored in, Bolsonaro has 50%, and Haddad, 35%. Opinions are well-entrenched: the rate of voters willing to change their choice is very low among those with a valid vote and only 25% among the invalid/abstaining crowd, meaning Haddad would lose even if he managed to sway every single undecided voter to his side. This happened despite increased attacks on Bolsonaro (with anti-gun scaremongering and much attention given to David Duke's endorsement of him) and Haddad's attempts to appease Protestants (useless, as all major pastors have already endorsed Bolsonaro) and ally with the PSDB (which responded with niceties but politely refused). Bolsonaro just shrughs everything like water off a raincoat and stands unbeatable in his winning position. Haddad is already in panic.

However, it seems Haddad has found his silver bullet. A major newspaper reported that companies tied to Bolsonaro allegedly spent millions to send political advertisements to a great number of voters on Whatsapp. As this spending was not declared to electoral authorities, it is illegal and could result in Bolsonaro's bid being declared illegal. Bolsonaro's campaign responded in an unclear manner (blaming it on sympathizers whose actions are unknown to him), suggesting there's truth to it, but the newspaper provided no evidence whatsoever and didn't even name their sources.
The PT now wants the second round delayed and remade between Haddad and the third most voted candidate (i.e. Ciro Gomes), and already filed a request for Bolsonaro being banned from running now, in 2022, and, just to be safe, in 2026 too. As their document was poorly thought out and written, it is very likely to be dismissed in courts. Even if another one is made, it is unlikely for our slow legal system to fully evaluate the case just a week from the elections, so they're most definitively still happening. Any real judgement of this will drag along after he's elected and even well into his mandate, and it remains to be seen if the accusers have solid evidence on their side -Dilma was accused of similar crimes in 2014 and absolved despite the existence of evidence against her, so only a strong case can bring down Bolsonaro.
PSOL and the PT have also requested restrictions on Whatsapp or even a temporary ban until the 28th of October under the guise of fighting fake news. Some commentators have noted that the PT has already accepted is loss and is doing this not as the key to victory but to build up its own odds as the opposition. Even if these accusations turn out to be false, a strong narrative has been built and "fake news on Whatsapp" have become the local version of "Russian hacking" on America -a convenient rhetorical tool to excuse one's defeat and claim the opponent has no democratic legitimacy.
Behind this there's also an enduring frustration from old media about its loss of power and prestige to decentralized discussion on social media (see: designated TV time having no effect on candidate popularity, with Alckmin failing despite his many minutes and Bolsonaro winning with less than 10 seconds), with Whatsapp becoming a critically important channel for propaganda. As it has no self-righteous journalists to boss them around, it allows bydlos to share their 89iq memes (and indeed, plenty of fake news from both sides, though traditional media is just as false -it's merely better at being manipulative) at will.

Bernd 10/19/2018 (Fri) 22:18:13 [Preview] No.20170 del
When is the next Brazil election?

Bernd 10/19/2018 (Fri) 22:18:41 [Preview] No.20171 del
Federal Police investigators have made progress on the Bolsonaro murder attempt case. They now suspect it may be tied to the PCC -Primeiro Comando da Capital-, São Paulo's largest drug cartel and one of the most powerful in the entire continent.

Meanwhile, Eurípedes Júnior is still at large.

Bernd 10/19/2018 (Fri) 22:19:13 [Preview] No.20172 del
Second round is in the 28th of October. Next general elections are in 2022.

Bernd 10/19/2018 (Fri) 22:20:35 [Preview] No.20173 del
OK thanks. I'm going to love to see the results of this.

Bernd 10/20/2018 (Sat) 06:50:33 [Preview] No.20174 del
Yo jpball, are you the one who was working on a game?

Bernd 10/20/2018 (Sat) 07:20:04 [Preview] No.20175 del
>blaming it on sympathizers whose actions are unknown to him
Let's say someone clean breaks into politics with the intention of making things right and all the idealist stuff like that. He does everything to preserve his integrity, doing everything straight, by the books, in the open so the public can see he is clean and will be. But he can't do it alone, even for a position in local government of a settlement he needs a Stab, a staff to manage the whole thing. At first one or two people on the lowest level but as he step forward and rose into higher levels of government he would need more and more people. And ofc there would be followers and a whole mass would start to form around him. Could be everyone vetted if they are squeaky clean too? And we aren't talking about moles who would be sent to work themselves into trusted positions where they can perform their disruptive actions but simple good natured trusting idiots who get involved into shit or corrupt careerists who just want to ride the popularity and don't afraid to use shady tools. And shit will splash to the top.
>allows bydlos to share their 89iq memes (and indeed, plenty of fake news from both sides, though traditional media is just as false -it's merely better at being manipulative) at will.
It's a new age for propaganda it's clear.

Bernd 10/22/2018 (Mon) 00:16:45 [Preview] No.20184 del
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Courts went ahead with investigating Bolsonaro's campaign funding, but denied requests for search&seizure or arrest warrants due to the lack of evidence from the accusers' side.

Bolsonaro's son made ripples after a four month-old video of his stating "if you want to close the Supreme Court, do you know what you do? You don't even need a jeep, you just send a private and a corporal" was resurfaced by Haddad. He apologized for the comment. Typically his enemies are the ones making such uncomfortable comments about the courts, such as Ciro Gomes saying he'd "place judges back in their little box" and Haddad feeding hopes of a presidential pardon to Lula.

Some large street demonstrations in favor of Bolsonaro all across the country.

Bolsonaro is already discussing his cabinet and future moves: astronaut Marco Pontes is slated to become Minister of Science and Technology. Ilan Goldfajn, current head of the Central Bank, may retain his post. An end to reelections has been put forward as a measure of political reform.

Bernd 10/22/2018 (Mon) 20:49:30 [Preview] No.20213 del
>just send a private and a corporal
Nice little "golden spit".

Bernd 10/22/2018 (Mon) 22:34:34 [Preview] No.20216 del
Haddad bashed the Armed Forces, claiming that hardliners threaten national institutions and four-star general Sergio Etchegoyen is attempting to control the Supreme Electoral Court.

Marina Silva has declared her support for Haddad.

Bernd 10/23/2018 (Tue) 19:27:03 [Preview] No.20239 del
A porn video of João Dória banging four women has appeared. He claims it's fake.

Singer Geraldo Azevedo accused Mourão of torturing him in 1969, and Haddad publicized this accusation. However, Mourão was born was 16-year old at the time and only joined the military in 1972. Both Haddad and Azevedo have apologized for their false claim.

Bernd 10/23/2018 (Tue) 19:27:47 [Preview] No.20240 del
*Mourão was born in 1953, was 16-year old at the time and only joined the military in 1972

Bernd 10/23/2018 (Tue) 19:41:08 [Preview] No.20241 del
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Five women. He's far away from the camera, lying in bed, while they all approach him from the left. It's low-res, so you can't be sure if it's really him.

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 00:04:16 [Preview] No.20244 del
New poll today. Bolsonaro is at 57% of valid votes, Haddad rises to 43%. Most importantly, Haddad now has a rejection rate only a single point higher than Bolsonaro's, showing his advance towards the center has had some effectivenes.
On total votes, Bolsonaro has in fact remained where he was -50%- while Haddad rose to 37%, showing his modest increase came from neutral voters.

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 00:07:51 [Preview] No.20245 del
Bolsonaro didn't remain where he was, he lost 2 points to blank/invalid votes while Haddad remained in place. I was thinking of another polling company's numbers.

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 15:46:57 [Preview] No.20251 del
They still have a few days to pile more shit over the stack but doesn't seem the scale can be tipped over.

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 18:58:52 [Preview] No.20252 del
Eduardo Jorge, Marina Silva's running mate, has declared he won't vote for either candidate. This is something of a surprise, as he was always seen as left of Marina (with a strong emphasis on cannabis legalization as a campaign theme) and yet Marina backs Haddad.

Rapper Mano Brown has spoken at a Haddad campaign event. Although backing Haddad, he had a very pessimistic and self-critical tone, arguing that defeat is inevitable and his side must try to understand Bolsonaro's voters. He was booed by Haddad's supporters.

The National Conference of Bishops has issued an electoral statement with wording that seems to to support Haddad, proving how strong Liberation Theology still is within the clergy -though not the rank and file.

Shortly after the first round, a 19-year old woman in Porto Alegre drew nationwide attention after claiming three men attacked her for wearing an anti-Bolsonaro shirt, holding her down and drawing a swastika on her body with a pocket knife.
A medical report on the case has finally been published. No signs of sudden agression and resistance have been found, leading to a conclusion that the wounds were self-inflicted or made with someone else's consent.
Based on this and other evidences -such as the lack of eyewitness evidence- Rio Grande do Sul's Civil Police will indict her for making false claims.

He has a small chance of victory if he continues this growth and pulls off a last minute surge among centrists.

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 19:54:58 [Preview] No.20255 del
Is that a thinly veiled "Brasil white!" picture? I wonder who's idiotic idea was that cutting thing. I also don't get why would Bolsonaro supporters carve swastika into people, usually such acts were committed against those who collaborators of nazis (e.g in France).

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 19:55:47 [Preview] No.20256 del
*who were collaborators

Bernd 10/24/2018 (Wed) 20:51:41 [Preview] No.20258 del
>Is that a thinly veiled "Brasil white!" picture?
It's Rio Grande do Sul -like Argentina, a mighty bastion of whiteness.

>I wonder who's idiotic idea was that cutting thing
It was a self-inflicted wound.

Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 05:23:53 [Preview] No.20259 del
>It was a self-inflicted wound.
But wasn't necessarily her idea. It's clear with this act she wanted to set the Bolsonaro supporters up as nazis and drew nationwide attention to this message, it was a "false flag operation" if you will. Maybe she didn't act alone, had a "mastermind" behind it, maybe she was a political activist not a random person from the street.

Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 12:25:23 [Preview] No.20262 del
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every time

Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 22:14:01 [Preview] No.20280 del
New poll is out. Bolsonaro is down to 56% of valid votes while Haddad rises to 44%. On total votes, Bolsonaro has 48%, and Haddad, 38%. There are 6% of undecided voters.

Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 22:21:30 [Preview] No.20281 del
Some different data on rejection rates this time. Bolsonaro has 44%, and Haddad, 52%.

Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 15:25:48 [Preview] No.20314 del
Well, tomorrow is the day. I'm curious about the result. But also if Bolsonaro would really bring any change (without the word memetic meaning) to Brazil.

Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 19:52:01 [Preview] No.20318 del
>societal trends that have been set in motion long ago
Hm, how long you reckon?
>the state as a whole and much less just the cabinet and ruling coalition can only nudge these things in the direction they desire rather than pull off immediate change, particularly when they're fighting against the current.
For the record, I don't like this fatalism and I might write more but now I'll just say: you make it sound like "the state" is disjoint with whatever constitutes "the current", because how could the current be so against the state if the former elects the latter. I mean, are you telling me de-democracy doesn't q-quite work???

>decentralized discussion on social media
[autism intensifies]
Yes it's a qualifier for the "discussion" not the "social media", but still sounds ridiculous to me.
>traditional media is just as false -it's merely better at being manipulative
Maybe what you mean is more skilfully disguised, more devious, less crass and overt. And that's true, but many of them seemingly concluded that on its own that might not be the more efficient strategy in the game of persuasion at massive scale. So not only can you find the traditional media inside "social media", you can now also see them using similar "89iq memes" and crass propaganda, although they might try to keep that sort of thing farther away from their more established platforms (they might not put it on real paper) and their organisational image (they might not publish it directly under their brand, but maybe via the personal blogs or accounts of their employees).

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 03:23:17 [Preview] No.20322 del
Last polls are out. One has Bolsonaro at 55%, and another, at 54%, with Haddad at 45% or 46%. With all votes factored in, Bolsonaro's margin of advantage is a couple points higher. I'd say at this point Bolsonaro has a 90% chance of victory.

Ciro Gomes has arrived in the country after three weeks resting in Europe. As he had declared support for Haddad as soon as first round results were published, his allies requested -and everyone expected- he'd make a video formally requesting votes for Haddad. Instead, he spoke in a pro-Haddad tone, asking people to vote "for democracy and against intolerance" but refused to take a stand. Earlier on, his son caused a ruckus after chastising Lula and the PT on a campaign event; he later clarified he's still voting Haddad, but the damage was done and Bolsonaro used footage of the incident in his propaganda. It's a pleasure to see the PDT giving the middle finger to the PT: as an old, sophisticated organization, they're still salty over being reduced to a junior partner to Lula's crude and power-hungry party.

Lula celebrates his birthday today. Nicolás Maduro expressed his support, while Senator and national PT president Gleisi Hoffmann said a Haddad victory followed by a presidential pardon would be an ideal birthday gift.

Gubernatorial second rounds are also held in 14 states tomorrow. Trends in gubernatorial elections this year have been a shift to the right, a high rate of renewal, and several surprises. Notable campaigns include:

São Paulo: João Dória (PSDB), São Paulo mayor elected in 2016 who resigned to run, faces off against Márcio França (PSB), the state's vice-governor elected in 2014 as Alckmin's running mate and governor since April 2018, when Alckmin resigned to run for President. A popular mayor, Dória initially had a large advantage and tried to associate himself with Bolsonaro. However, Bolsonaro refused to take a side, with PSL figures divided in their support, while even figures in Doria's own party backed França. Then Dória's sex scandal >>20241 made an impact. Dória melted away in polls, with the latest showing him at 50% or 49%. This will be a very tight and unpredictable race.

Minas Gerais: Romeu Zema (NOVO), a minor candidate who rose spectacularly in the first round, faces off against senator Antônio Anastasia (PSDB). Like São Paulo, this is a battle between a Bolsonaro-supporting new right candidate and an old centrist. But Zema has a comfortable advantage and sits at 70% in the polls.

Rio de Janeiro: Wilson Witzel (PSC) faces off against former Rio mayor Eduardo Paes (DEM). Witzel, a nobody with no expression in polls, surprised everyone in the first round and is now expected to win with 53% of the vote.

>Hm, how long you reckon?
Decades or a few centuries ago, but if you follow the chain of events it just infinitely flows back into history.

>you make it sound like "the state" is disjoint with whatever constitutes "the current", because how could the current be so against the state if the former elects the latter
By the "current" I don't mean the population's political wishes but wider societal trends. Think of the impacts urbanization has on social relations and organization: there's little a government can do to stop them, as they're more or less "natural" social results of an economic process. Likewise, think of situations which lead elites to act in a certain way and thus create a completely new and unexpected situation with different behavioral incentives.
I don't mean that economics and technology always determine societal organisation and cultural developments (oftentimes, it's the reverse), nor that there's no social engineering going on, but I think you get it.

>Maybe what you mean is more skilfully disguised, more devious, less crass and overt.
Yeah, that's what I meant.

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 22:13:28 [Preview] No.20333 del
88% of votes have been counted. Bolsonaro has 56,7% and has already won.

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 22:13:57 [Preview] No.20334 del
92%. Bolsonaro has 55,6%.

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 22:24:52 [Preview] No.20337 del
94%. Bolsonaro has 55,5%.

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 23:00:33 [Preview] No.20338 del
>Bolsonaro has 56,7% and has already won.

Remember, miracles can happen: >>19343

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 23:15:17 [Preview] No.20339 del
Great guy, really cares about its people

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 23:15:32 [Preview] No.20340 del
It turns out that the boomer neocon Bolsonaro beat the Trotskyist Haddad.

Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 23:28:10 [Preview] No.20341 del
But where is he wrong on 1st pic? Palestine isn't a country.

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 01:22:51 [Preview] No.20344 del
Palestine is barely a country thanks to the U.N., Balfour Declaration, Lord Rothschild, Britain, Zionism, and supportive Jews and non-Jews alike
Closing the Palestinian embassy won't help either, and to make your first trip to Isreal says a lot as well.

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 01:28:42 [Preview] No.20345 del
Of Israel, that is.

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 06:18:33 [Preview] No.20346 del
Congratulation O Presidente!

So? Go and scare /pol/ with the Jewish boogeyman.
Also if you'd read the thread you would know this was already mentioned here: >>19810
>pro-Israel attitude
also here: >>19807
>Foreign policy
And to be frank... wtf do you expect? It's not the 1930's anymore.

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 14:18:46 [Preview] No.20350 del
BBC were calling Bolsonaro "far-right", kek. Isn't he just another Trump tier neocon?

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 15:00:26 [Preview] No.20351 del
I just said he was. He's the same as Trump, Orban, and Salvini.

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 16:26:04 [Preview] No.20357 del
>So? Go and scare /pol/ with the Jewish boogeyman.
I'm no fan of /pol/ either, but let me tell you, there is a conspiracy against the west, against Europeans (and all non-Jews), against nature, and yes there is a big Jewish influence in movements undermining western society whether it be directly (religion or related cults) or indirectly (through infiltration of Freemasonry[1], creation of Commmunism[2], etc), that's not to say every Jewish person is involved.

Regarding communism (created by Marx, a Jew) Trotsky*, Lenin*, Uritsky*, Sverdlov*, Zinoviev*, Lashevich* were all Jews and were the the most prominent people in the first Bolshevik government and in the Bolshevik revolution which killed many millions of Russians. And in Soviet Russia "anti-Semitism" was punishable by death under Stalin.
Regarding "Cultural Marxism" which was developed by the Frankfurt School and its founders and most influential people were also Jewish (e.g, Marcuse, Horkheimer, Adorno, Benjamin, Fromm, Pollock, Löwenthal, Kracauer, Kirchheimer)[2]

*Pictured, see first row of the first Bolshevik government, wholly funded by Jewish and non-Jewish bankers overseas

Bernd 10/29/2018 (Mon) 16:29:51 [Preview] No.20359 del
This should suffice:
>"Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."
- Rabbi Isaac Wise

Bernd 10/30/2018 (Tue) 00:33:31 [Preview] No.20373 del
Bolsonaro's philosemitism is actually a recent development.
Bolsonaro used to follow the worldview of 70s military hardliners: 19th century French positivism combined with a sort of right-wing Third Worldism, with indifference towards Israel and implicit hostility towards America. This ideology slowly died out and its last representatives in Congress ceased to exist by the last decade. At about the same period, demand for an intellectual core for a then-emerging conservative movement was filled by a ready-made foreign ideology: burger neoconservatism. As it was imported in its entirety with no concern for how local subtleties differed from American conditions, Israel worship was embraced and turned into a major issue.
Bolsonaro then shifted to this new paradigm, though preserving his attitude and key talking points such as law&order, and became a Zionist overnight in the process.

This is stupid not merely because of the Israeli-Arab conflict itself but also due to how little relevance it has to the country: he gives disproportionate attention to a foreign policy issue of tertiary importance. In fact, if he does indeed move our embassy to Jerusalem, Arab countries -who we currently have good trade relationships with- will retaliate.

As for Masonry, it's nothing unexpected: nearly 100% of the ruling political class has been part of it in this country since ancient times: D.Pedro II was a Mason, and so were key figures behind national independence in the 1810s and 1820s.

If you look beyond his controversial rhetoric (most of which was made many years ago) and examine his actual policy proposals, he really doesn't go much beyond Trump-tier neoconservatism. Leftists are just hyping him up as some sort of beach Mussolini so they can live out their persecution fantasies. They're even following their American counterparts, calling themselves the "resistance" and making Harry Potter comparisons.

You could start a thread to discuss merchants and merchantry, there's some points I can make on what you said.

Bernd 10/30/2018 (Tue) 01:57:59 [Preview] No.20374 del
>They're even following their American counterparts, calling themselves the "resistance" and making Harry Potter comparisons.
Having nothing to cheer for, I at least enjoyed the neoliberal tears and memes thereof when Trump was elected. Is there any fun to be had in this case?

Bernd 10/30/2018 (Tue) 06:46:03 [Preview] No.20375 del
Why would "they" wanna destroy something "they" actively helped to build since the Middle Ages but especially in the past two hundred years? Not just financiers but statesmen and scientists as well. Frankly the fact that the West is so rich and powerful can be thanked for the Jews by large. Even to Marx who is basically the father of modern economics.
Btw why everyone forgets about Engels who was great "workforce" for the communism maybe even larger than Marx. And the Bolshevik revolution couldn't have succeded without the goyim, not without the German Empire which helped Lenin to return to Russia and not without all the "revolutionary" groups of 1917 who assumed power until incompetently lost it to the Bolsheviks.
Ofc Jews in general are nepotistic as fuck and ofc "they" didn't help to build the West for altruistic reasons, "they" did it as it's in their best interest. Now all of them can enjoy that freedom and those rights which are accessible all the goyim in the West (and now in rest of Europe and some other places in the world).
There's a reason why so many Jews were prominent figures of the two big ideologies, liberalism and socialism. And the reason is that these offered a way out of the seclusion they were forced in by their own stupid religion. The religion which always made them the alien minority everywhere, the religion which cultivated their victimhood throughout thousands of years, the religion what they just couldn't give up no matter how much unpleasentness it caused to them. It preserved their identity (a very important thing to them) but alienated them from their surroundings, created constant conflicts with the goyim.
They were isolated bodies in the bodies of nations, a community inside a community and when the three big political ideologies came nationalism couldn't offer them anything as they would had to give up their own self and assimilate and they couldn't form their own state either. But the ideas of freedom and equality meant the dissolution of this isolation, it meant there is a way they could interact with those around them just like everyone else without stigmas or obstructive laws. So they drifted towards liberalism and socialism and utilized them to their advantage. This is why there are so many Jewish advocates in liberal and socialist movements, especially in their internationalist trends, oftentimes in revolutionary, subversive or anarchist branches.
Ofc with the formation of Israel, now nationalism too can find it's way among them, as now they started to form a real community and now they aren't just a bunch of isolated communities connected only by religion. This is another tale tho.

Bernd 10/30/2018 (Tue) 12:30:21 [Preview] No.20378 del
>Ofc Jews in general are nepotistic as fuck and ofc "they" didn't help to build the West for altruistic reasons, "they" did it as it's in their best interest.
I think this is the main reason behind Jewish influence in these conspiracy theories. Rather than being an active effort by Jews as a whole, it's more that Jews just happen to make up a big part of the social elite due to nepotism, as well as their historical positions as bankers, merchants, court Jews etc.

Bernd 10/30/2018 (Tue) 18:52:52 [Preview] No.20384 del
>main reason
Sounds likely. Another reason is also related: "corruption is what they left me out of". The whole Medieval was very nepotistic, just think about the Catholic church or the alliances of the noble houses but they were "our dog's pup" and their mentality survived for long, even up to this day (but very much observable on the interwar Hungary for example). The Jews on the other hand are strangers among "us" and they pass around favors among themselves leaving "us" out. Ofc they are corrupt conspirators who destroy our way of life by their evil schemes.

Bernd 10/31/2018 (Wed) 23:53:21 [Preview] No.20404 del
>Is there any fun to be had in this case?
The kind of shock reactions to Trump's election were absent this time, as polls were predicting Bolsonaro's victory for a month and by the time vote counting was made public, it was already at over 80% of votes. The chief source of memes and copypastas has been of allegedly "true" stories posted by Haddad's female voters on social media, the most famous of which involves an university student getting threatened by her father with a 9mm as he said "it's a new age, are you afraid?".

The position of Jews within Western society isn't an unique historical phenomenon. There's an entire term for it -middleman minority- with a number of other examples, such as Arabs and Chinese. This condition is chiefly a result of diaspora status (the common link with other middlemen minorities), but also historical restrictions on Jewish activity and the reinforcing effect of high Ashkenazi IQ (which arose after middleman minority status was achieved and due to it, but helped consolidate it).
In turn, being a middleman minority makes Jews overrepresented in several ideologies, both because of their intelligentsia position (as the intelligentsia as a whole has a distinct ideological bias) and because it is in their natural interest to weaken the majority's ethnic nepotism/cohesion and remove barriers to minority power. Kevin MacDonald speaks of this.
But that's just the materialistic explanation. I don't doubt peculiar traits of Jewish religion and culture and their relationships to gentiles are also at play.

Soviet Jews are a complicated matter. It is true that a large number of Jews were present since the CPSU's earliest days (though other minorities such as Balts and Volga Germans were also overrepresented in Tsarist Russia's opposition as a whole, and other factions besides the Bolshevikes had higher rates of Jewishness). Nevertheless, Stalin ended up purging many of those Jews and his rule acquired antisemitic overtones in his last years, as the doctors' plot demonstrates. After a period of early support for Israel, the USSR followed a firm anti-Zionist stance, and its Jewish population, although powerful to this very day, wasn't clearly in charge, with Westerners deeming it opressed and such strong emigration that it had to be restricted. As soon as controls were lifted in the 80s, Soviet Jews then left en masse.

As for Lenin, he was not Jewish by merchant standards of matrilineality and only a small share of his ancestry was Jewish.

Bernd 11/01/2018 (Thu) 08:45:15 [Preview] No.20406 del
>middleman minority
Checked Wiki quickly and the article states several times that they reached their positions despite discrimination. Might be that actual publications in this topic mention this - reading a book about this right now is just out of my possibilities due to it's time consuming nature - but I would go that far and say they reached their positions because of this negative discrimination. Their precarious state is/was an advantage in their situation.
Similar case when (semi-)absolutistic rulers who had more or less firm grip on power raised lowborns into high positions. They didn't want to empower some noble in a rival league and losing influence but wanted controllable individuals with noone backing them and dependent on the king's person. Similar with the Jews, they were disposable assets noone would miss in case things go sour and they need to go. Thanks to their undesirability for the general populace they lacked that social network that made nobles (and the Church) so inconvenient, they only had other Jews which basically didn't count.
However as the wheel of time turned and socio-econimcal changes started to took root and old stigmas lost their meaning they became the same inconvenient factor in power what nobles (and the Church) were. And now we stuck with them.
I'm not sure who said: Jews are like salt, in small amount it makes the soup tasty but too much turns it inedible.

Jews played important role in communism here as well. Both in the Soviet of 1919 and the state-socialism after WWII. Their "golden age" overlapped Stalin's last years - basically they were hardcore Stalinist - when a five person clique, The Quintet, ruled the country. All five were Jews and their tool to power the state police's (ÁVO then ÁVH) officer corps were also crowded with them. In '56 they lost positions and lost influence but they still were prominent - I would say up to this day - but it's little hard to look into it because one can earn the anti-semite stigma pretty fast. Nevertheless they happily served an anti-Israel system what you mentioned basically. It's kind of a hypocrisy on their part that they now the greatest Israel supporters (despite for some reason they refuse to Aliyah) but understandable as they too couldn't go against the grain, against the offical communist/socialist standpoint.
This anti-Zionist stance, as how you call it, was based on the view that Israel was a capitalist country, a creaton of Western "imperialists" and not of the "proletariat" backed by the Soviet. I read or heard somewhere, can't remember anymore, that Lenin had a notion to make a new JewishCKanaan in Crimea - which was later realized in Birobidzhan, maybe Crimea just sounded too good for them according to Stalin.

>Soviet Jews are a complicated matter
Moar liek:
>Jews are a complicated matter

Bernd 11/01/2018 (Thu) 12:49:41 [Preview] No.20409 del
Forgot to post this: gubernatorial election results. Zema, Dória and Witzel all won, and several oligarchs, such as Amazonino Mendes, who intermittently ruled Amazonas or its capital since the 80s, were toppled by ideological candidates.

Bernd 11/01/2018 (Thu) 23:31:56 [Preview] No.20416 del
Bolsonaro slowly pieces together his cabinet. Instead of having a large number of ministries and selling them to parties and oligarchs in exchange for parliamentary support none of this was a secret, high-brow media openly reported on each minister's patron , he will consolidate the existing 29 ministries and ministry-level institutions into 15-16 ones and mostly name technical choices. Controversial picks include:

-The Ministries of Agriculture and the Environment are set to be merged. Due to the conflicts of interest involved, this has been a point of contention and Bolsonaro may fall back on this choice.

-A newly-created "Ministry of the Family" will be handed over to Magno Malta, an opportunistic old Senator (now voted out of power in his state) who found himself involved in several corruption scandals and successively backed Lula, Dilma and Temer before getting into Bolsonaro's inner circle. This stands out from other ministries, some of which have very promising picks, and pollutes the following government from the very beginning.

-Sérgio Moro, a popular and highly respected judge who played a key role in Lava Jato was considered as a Supreme Court pick, but was now invited -and accepted- to command a "superministry" of Justice formed from the merger of several organizations. This plays well for Bolsonaro, but not for Moro himself, who previously promised not to enter politics and now lost a small part of his legitimacy. This is a rhetorical triumph for the left, which has insistently denied each and every single accusation levied against Lula and claimed he's a victim of political persecution. Some have also criticized this on technical grounds, as his work on Lava Jato would have to stop as either a minister or part of the Supreme Court. His new position will, however, allow him to implement measures against corruption as a whole, and has been met with fear by shady elements in Brasília.

Bernd 11/04/2018 (Sun) 08:03:56 [Preview] No.20438 del
Today is Index day. I mean I checked the news. I put this here because it fits better in politics.
The sauce:

And for the uncultured savages who can't even speak Hungarian, here's what's this about. It's not some bombastic stuff, but pretty daring for someone among the Liberals to tell these things.
So, Ungár Péter, one of the leading politicians of the LMP, member of the National Assembly, talks in this article that the recent politics of the opposition cannot be continued. The Fidesz won the third times with 2/3 in sequence, it's clear that something wrong with the opposition too. Not everything can be blamed on the Fidesz, it's oppressive media coverage and the electoral system created by them to favor them. The LMP should coordinate more with the Jobbik in short term and work even more closer on the long run. From the Socialist parties many people has to go as they are unacceptable for the waste majority of the Hungarians. In migrant question it isn't good politics to say the opposite what the Fidesz says and it's allright to agree with them.
Next spring EU elections are coming, it has a different electoral system and it is very likely the Fidesz will won by large again if the opposition doesn't changes it's strategy.

From where I see it he is right. The opposition right now is impotent, they should change a lot.
What I don't see on the spectrum now is a group of liberals who are willing to support national ideals. Liberalism isn't just promoting degeneracy, but promoting new ideas, new solutions to problems which can't be solved with old tools. One can be progressive even if doesn't want to destroy the community but wants to preserve it.
Now he's being attacked by his rivals in the party and others among the left-liberals ofc.
On the other hand his mum is Schmidt Mária (director of House of Terror:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Terror ) who is pretty close to the Fidesz.
We'll see what happens.

Bernd 11/04/2018 (Sun) 17:01:14 [Preview] No.20444 del
Compromises have to be made sometimes. Wonder what was the price for that Ministry of the Family.

Bernd 11/04/2018 (Sun) 21:50:08 [Preview] No.20446 del
It's a compensation for his support.
Bolsonaro's parliamentary base has so far followed his stance on ministers: he hasn't formally allied any party, and apparently intends to negotiate votes for each individual bill, counting on his wide popular goodwill as an important card to pressure Congress. It remains to be seen how far he'll go through with this.

Supreme Court nominations are already being considered, but aside from Moro, Bolsonaro's team has said nothing at all on this topic. Judges have to retire when they're 75, and one of them reaches that age by 2020, allowing the Presidency to name another one. There's a bill to reduce retirement age to 70. If it were passed, several judges would be instantly retired and more could then be appointed.

Bernd 11/04/2018 (Sun) 21:52:42 [Preview] No.20447 del
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And now, a sample of the kind of content soon-to-be Congressman Frota posts online.

Bernd 11/06/2018 (Tue) 12:42:55 [Preview] No.20455 del
That can't be real. Surely not.

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Bernd 11/06/2018 (Tue) 16:49:20 [Preview] No.20458 del
Well it's kinda for the shock value.

t. took the time to translate text

Bernd 11/06/2018 (Tue) 21:50:21 [Preview] No.20461 del
It's completely real.

And now even the Nipponese artist behind the drawing has been made aware of this.

Bernd 11/06/2018 (Tue) 23:34:07 [Preview] No.20468 del
I read the previous explanations about this guy so I was wary of opening the spoilered image. Now I see that the you probably did that on purpose, precisely to cause that feeling.

About the picture itself: it's a critique of the ABCDEFG...Z-sexualists in the left of some countries. It's propagandistic but not too far from truth (see USA).

Bernd 11/07/2018 (Wed) 01:33:14 [Preview] No.20469 del
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Is this picture of Joe Biden real?

Bernd 11/07/2018 (Wed) 02:10:39 [Preview] No.20470 del
>About the picture itself
I mean the twatter post. The image is likely unrelated nipponese lewd cartoon.

Bernd 11/07/2018 (Wed) 06:10:05 [Preview] No.20471 del

Bernd 11/07/2018 (Wed) 13:45:44 [Preview] No.20472 del
I gathered it was some bullshit about gender neutral toilets or something like that. Still pretty funny though.
>imb4 he gets huge support from Japanese in São Paulo

Bernd 11/07/2018 (Wed) 22:23:03 [Preview] No.20478 del
Bad day for Dolan, Democrats now have an advantage of over 20 seats over the GOP. How many of his key campaign promises still need Congressional approval to succeed? Any Democratic move will be blocked, but he'll have a hard time passing anything, too.

It also probably implies his opponents have a pro-pedophile agenda.
>Japanese in São Paulo
They probably voted for their coethnic Kataguiry >>19989.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 16:26:24 [Preview] No.20486 del
>key campaign promises
What were those?
I remember making America great again...
And the 10 feet higher wall what the Mexicans have to pay.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 16:26:49 [Preview] No.20487 del
And maybe something about the steel industry?

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 16:30:26 [Preview] No.20488 del
you forgot about "BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF ISIS", which he kinda did I guess.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 16:51:02 [Preview] No.20489 del
Well, they allowed Russia to do that.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 18:06:00 [Preview] No.20490 del
-Pulling out of Syria: needed no Congressional approval, but he did a full 180 on this.
-Mass deportations of illegals: nothing in the scale expected, and lower levels of government are actively defying him through sanctuary cities and the like.
-The wall: may still be possible without Congressional approval if he directs Presidential funds to it and cuts off aid to Mexico.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 19:00:35 [Preview] No.20491 del
Bolsonaro is trying to convince Congress to pass at least a partial pension reform already this year, as that would make his job easier and, according to economists, allow economic growth to reach pre-crisis levels already in 2019.
Dória is on his side and is negotiating gubernatorial support for this move. In turn, Temer wants Bolsonaro to openly tie himself to the unpopular measure, which would make it easier to pass but burn Bolsonaro's political capital in the process. However, congressmen and senators reject his advances and simply think it's not their problem. Right now they have more pressing concerns, such as raising Supreme Court wages -a measure passed today, which will, through a cascade effect of other wage increases, cost some $6 billion for the Treasury- and, anticipating Moro's activities next year, relaxing anticorruption legislation.
Another obstacle is that pension reform would require changing the Constitution, and constitutional ammendments cannot be passed as long as there's federal intervention anywhere -which is the case in Rio de Janeiro. Temer and Bolsonaro are already planning an alternative without any Constitutional changes.

Meanwhile, arrest warrants have been issued for 10 members of Rio de Janeiro's state legislature, which fields 70 MPs.

Bernd 11/08/2018 (Thu) 19:57:30 [Preview] No.20492 del
>Bad day for Dolan,

Actually, a pretty good results. Considering that all media hates him and everything that average American citizen hears is reduced to "Trump is Hitler", almost half of country continues to support his party (although Republican aren't Trump, but whatever). In normal conditions Republicans could win much more.

In Russia with same media situation (literally everything is pro-government) people much more rarely oppose mainstream opinion at all.

>key campaign promises

It is obvious now that he wouldn't and couldn't do anything promised even with Republican support. But he is politician after all, so this is normal.

His real politics are actually saner than many people may think, especially if you ignore irrelevant twitter shit.

Bernd 11/09/2018 (Fri) 21:06:19 [Preview] No.20510 del
>Russian officials admitted that they no longer can service Russia’s lone aircraft carrier following a recent sinking of a large floating dry dock.


superpower status: rejected

Bernd 11/10/2018 (Sat) 10:24:05 [Preview] No.20518 del
>Admiral Kuznetsov was commissioned in 1990
>two-year refit between 1996 and 1998.
>poor reliability and questionable performance
>was being pulled out after the failure of a pump system
after that
>drydock reportedly sank
>a crane fell on the carrier’s deck leaving a hole above the waterline that measures 4 by 5 meters
>also injured four workers.
and don't forget
>Russian shipbuilding industry does not possess a large enough facility to accommodate the carrier
>it will take at least six to 12 months to recover the sunken floating dry dock.
>it does not possess the equipment to lift the massive drydock from the seabed
>Russia would require international support for any such complex recovery operation

What a prime clusterfuck.

Bernd 11/10/2018 (Sat) 10:47:28 [Preview] No.20521 del

Kuznetsov is just a bad ship, and it was bad from the start. There were multiple design failures and poor quality of service, so in 90s ship was literally half sunk in port for few years. Conscripts, who are all bydlo, also broke many tech components just for fun (there were story about some guy who pull some lever and then cruise missile section became inactive for months). Some people stole metal parts for scrap.

There were few situations when Kuznetsov could literally sink because he lost power and may wreck on some rocks.

But for political reasons fleet command continues to pour money into it. In late 2000s ship achieved relatively "ok" state after numerous repairs, but not so much.

Recent operation in Syria ended in complete disaster. Crew couldn't handle broken arresting gear cable for few hours (a thing that must be fixed in minutes), and new Mig-29K crashed because out of fuel - fleet command forced it to stay in air because sending it to land (Hmeimim) would be a disgrace for fleet, so they were afraid to report it ("we're fixing it, just fly for 10 more minutes, you'll be allowed to land soon"). But they didn't expect that crew couldn't fix it in time. After that crash Kuznetsov was suddenly returned back. Officially it was just another success of Russian fleet, but everyone knew that in reality that was big fail. Who needs costly aircraft carrier that couldn't even fly planes properly?

Best that Kuznetsov can do - to sink at port and stop the suffering. But looks like they wouldn't give it a quick death and will continue to support poor ship. Now even dock is sunk.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 01:02:31 [Preview] No.20532 del
According to /k/ land-based aviation and anti-ship missiles would be enough to defend Russia's coastlines and Kuznetsov exists exclusively as a dick-measuring prestige item to prove that Russia stronk.

Now that I think of it, Victoria II simulates this quite well: one can keep a massive fleet of ironclads well into the 20th century, when they're completely useless for battle, simply to inflate military score and thus remain within Great Power ranking. For additional realism, one can keep the Navy's budget so low that ships begin to rot away and eventually disappear.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 09:09:41 [Preview] No.20539 del
>According to /k/ land-based aviation and anti-ship missiles would be enough to defend Russia's coastlines and Kuznetsov exists exclusively as a dick-measuring prestige item to prove that Russia stronk.

Yes, that's true. Land-based aviation is always better than carrier-based with comparable money spending. Carriers exist for expeditionary purposes mostly.

Although having some fleet of real carriers isn't so bad, USSR had some projects, but they all were problematic economically (so helicopter carriers of project 1143.1-4 were build). There were internal lobbyist wars in ministry of defense, and carrier faction won only in the end of USSR. Although even them decided to build carrier with cruise missiles and designate it as cruiser.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 13:56:19 [Preview] No.20544 del
Liberals of the Eu Parliament made a billboard with the message about Orbán:
>First he took our money, now he wants to destroy Europe.
It does seem it's double sided on the other one there's the message in Hungarian:
>Kezdetben csak a pénzünkre utazott, most Európa egysége a tét.
This isn't the same text at all, in English this means: First he wanted our money, now Europe's Unity is at risk. This still isn't literal translation but just because the literal doesn't make sense in English, but this translation at least gives back the meaning. Why the big difference in the two original caption?
Interesting it's not for the Hungrians as this truck only cruises in Brussels, so they don't want to influence the Hungarian voter but destroy the image of Orbán in abroad. Probably the explanation is the same for the harsher English message can be found in this reason.
At 1:34 based Negers don't give a fuck about politics.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 15:40:29 [Preview] No.20548 del
>he wants to destroy Europe
So he's a crypto-German.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 16:17:26 [Preview] No.20551 del
>Kuznetsov is just a bad ship, and it was bad from the start.
I have no doubt.
How much irresponsible of a faggot that officer had to be who allowed that accident out of his Pride (with capital P for I'm talking about the cardinal sin). In my opinion gulag is exactly the invention these type of guys need.

Or he's in bed with Merkel secretly.

Bernd 11/11/2018 (Sun) 21:29:32 [Preview] No.20552 del
>officer had to be who allowed that accident out of his Pride

It isn't just pride, it is actually a system. That is how Soviet army worked and Russian works now - main goal of everyone is to cover his ass to prevent problems. And everything was so fucked so it is hard to imagine how everything worked at all.

For example, here is the story of K-429 submarine https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&hl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fflot.com%2Fblog%2Fkatastrofa%2F7429.php

Depth meters were broken on last repair (someone forgot to remove some cover), many respirators were just broken, some emergency doors were welded to hull, crew was unskilled etc. Command forgot about sub for hours. Even rescue crew in the end couldn't provide working respirators from surface to people who stuck in half-flooded section.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 17:41:12 [Preview] No.20576 del
Just stories about Israel that are going on currently.
>Newspaper articles about the very good relations between Israel and some Arabic states appear. Qatar even gets to send $13 million in cash into Gaza strip every month, so they can pay for the wages
>King Bibi goes to France for armistice day celebrated in France, doesn't matter that Israel didn't exist back in 1918
>Meanwhile some IDF undercover units are sent into Gaza strip and kill 7 Hamas commanders, one IDF soldier dies. It is said that Israeli defense minister is behind this.
>Hamas fires 400 something rockets into Southern Israel with Israel doing retaliatory attacks.
>Hamas offering a ceasefire that King Bibi accepts
>Defense minister Liebermann (he's originally from Soviet Union) and his party steps back from government and wants new elections
no comment from me and I don't claim that these stories have anything to do with each other, which they probably do, but I never said this

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:00:57 [Preview] No.20577 del
>Hamas fires 400 something rockets into Southern Israel with Israel doing retaliatory attacks.
>Hamas offering a ceasefire that King Bibi accepts
Aren't Hamas "rockets" just glorified firecrackers?

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:13:17 [Preview] No.20578 del
Well, they are all about Israel and Gaza, so ofc they have to do something with each other.
I've two questions.
1. Aren't all these just the usual business?
2. Doesn't Israel has an Iron Umbrella Shield Anti-Rocket Protection Something? Or is that only good against ICBM-s and such?

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:17:17 [Preview] No.20579 del
yeah, it's a who has the bigger benis competition. Hamas stands under pressure not to look weak, because the extremists might join some ISIS affiliated organization instead. The most effective attacks have been arson attacks carried out by simple kites, Iron umbrella can't do shit against wood, thin paper and a Molotov cocktail.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:20:33 [Preview] No.20580 del
The situation was rather peaceful lately, but who had the biggest interest in sabotaging the pacifying process in the Gaza strip, Liebermann or Iran.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:24:40 [Preview] No.20581 del
>Iron umbrella can't do shit against wood, thin paper and a Molotov cocktail.

I call bullshit on that Liebermann and his party leaving the coalition. Would they risk their position as governing party? Also who would they ally with if not Bibi's party and the other nationalists? The left? No way. They might looking for some angle they can blackmail Bibi into going through with some law or something.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:28:00 [Preview] No.20582 del
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Wait. Wikipedia list the YB as the member of the opposition. Do they know something?

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Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 18:42:32 [Preview] No.20584 del
It was edited today, but knowing how lazy people in the parliament can be, a one person advantage isn't enough, but King Bibi finds a way to continue his cleptocratic rule.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:00:52 [Preview] No.20585 del
>King Bibi
This makes me wonder: In say, I don't know, 1000 years, will jewish schools teach about Netanyahu, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.? I mean, hell, they teach about Hitler today just like how they teach the Egyptian Pharaohs, Nebuchadnezzar II, or Julius Caesar.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:11:01 [Preview] No.20588 del
>It was edited today,
>but King Bibi finds a way to continue his cleptocratic rule.
I would by a poison on it.

Well, assuming there still will be Jews or even humanity 1000 years later, I suppose so. They are still living through great struggle, especially in their minds, and their politicians could seem like notable leaders.
Sometimes I wonder the same about our politicians. To me they seem so petty and shameful to remember. Depending how things will turn out in Europe, there's a chance that Orbán will be remembered as a leading figure in the EU-s internal struggle over national identity and European United States and such. I found the idea him being remembered horrifying.

Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:11:48 [Preview] No.20589 del
they will be puzzled by the appearance of the swastika symbol in Germany and India and deduct that there was some empire under emperor Adolf

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two and a half years worth of insight

Bernd 11/15/2018 (Thu) 06:11:08 [Preview] No.20593 del
What's a PMS cabinet?

Bernd 11/15/2018 (Thu) 13:59:43 [Preview] No.20596 del
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>Brexit means Brexit! t. Sharia May in 2017 election
>lol jk enjoy still being basically in the EU but with only the disadvantages and none of the advantages
Democracy was a mistake, this is why I stopped voting at all after Are Nige retired.

Bernd 11/15/2018 (Thu) 17:04:20 [Preview] No.20600 del
Shamefur dispray.
Remaining in the free trade are will hurt those who would profit (and supported Brexit) from the leaving. UK won't even be able to make deals on it's own. But still remaining to be the bitch of Brussels. Wtf? Way to go torpedoing UK economy.
I believe the status, the coming and going of EU citizens could be solved by simple laws enacted by the UK parliament, no bilateral agreements and such shit needed. For example say: those with EU citizenship can enter freely and get jobs n shit. I don't get it what's to negotiate on this point.
Data protection also such thing, can't they solve this on their own with their own legislation?

Bernd 11/15/2018 (Thu) 17:05:03 [Preview] No.20601 del
*Remaining in the free trade zone

Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 01:30:12 [Preview] No.20609 del
I'd say Macron and Salvini are the ones most likely to be remembered in future history books, as they are the purest examples of the new ideological poles (technocracy vs. populism) that have transcended and overriden the old left-right dichotomy.

For Hamas and Palestinian nationalists as a whole, the point of fighting with Israel is losing and therefore gaining prestige among foreigners who value opressed brown people.

Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 06:26:22 [Preview] No.20614 del
>Macron and Salvini
For political theorists/scientists sure. I'm not certain if that side of the things (the paradigm change you mentioned) goes through for the common people. Maybe they'll learn it, maybe not.
On the Hungary we're almost never hear about Salvini, I guess due to the Mediterranean connections in Brazil media Italy is more prominent, but here we're very German-centric when it comes to foreign politics. And ofc now Brussels, Brussels, Brussels. Especially now with this conflict over migration.

Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 07:01:06 [Preview] No.20616 del
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Is Macron position really "new"? Salvini is good example of populism, although not too notable, but Macron is yet another traditional left-like European leader.

Of course Merkel will be remembered for long time.

Bernd 11/18/2018 (Sun) 23:02:24 [Preview] No.20643 del
Traditional West European leaders still clinged on to their old conservative or social democratic identities even though their ideological distinctiveness had been dilluted into nothing. Macron did away with links to past political traditions and openly embraced technocratic centrism, giving it new strength and allowing it to develop in new directions.

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