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Politics Serious Discusson - Brexit Edition Bernd 03/21/2019 (Thu) 20:43:13 [Preview] No. 23966
Anything politics.

For those who want to qwop-xit from the EU:
This athlete needs matching colors with picrel.

Bernd 03/22/2019 (Fri) 15:26:34 [Preview] No.23980 del
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>tfw Brexit delayed by at least 2 weeks

Bernd 03/22/2019 (Fri) 17:20:07 [Preview] No.23983 del
It is known?

Bernd 03/23/2019 (Sat) 21:51:17 [Preview] No.24010 del
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In the past few years with the migrant crisis on our hands the European People's Party frequently pulled out the idea that the Fidesz should be booted out of it's members. Never went through with it. Now they threatened again, here's the result (in English):
Basically Fidesz said they gave up their rights in the Party temporarily also leave the Soros financed Central European University alone. This allowed the EPP not going through with the threat but also can pretend they punished the renitent Fidesz who in return can boast the solution of their problem was theirs.

Bernd 03/23/2019 (Sat) 23:08:30 [Preview] No.24011 del
So nothing of importance happens and everyone claims victory. In terms of pure negotiation, this is the perfect deal. Obviously the problem remains and continues to grow but everyone is happy in the short term.
But in all seriousness, what difference does it make if Fidesz is or is not within the EPP?

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 08:14:30 [Preview] No.24013 del
>So nothing of importance happens and everyone claims victory. In terms of pure negotiation, this is the perfect deal. Obviously the problem remains and continues to grow but everyone is happy in the short term.
>what difference does it make if Fidesz is or is not within the EPP?
On the practical side I can count one effect of this deal: the opposing Hungarian media (mostly the left-liberals, the right-radical parties and groups have little media influence) can't gloat on how the Fidesz was booted out for it's evil deeds, can't forge political capital from the judgement, and can't simply just tell people: "see how evil the Fidesz, even their best pals condemn their tyranny!"
Hmm, we have an expression: "salami-tactic", which refers to the way how a rod of salami cut into slices. Leftist parties does the same since forever: they see their enemies as a nice piece of salami and they poke at one end and declare: "those guys are fascists!" Then the rest of the salami quickly dissociates themselves from the "fascists" to save themselves of being accused as fascist. The leftists are glad they managed to cut a slice away and see their tactic is working so they poke at the next on the end where they started and declare: "those guys are fascists!" And the process goes on until the whole body of enemies are gulaged and hanged. Divide et impera.
I see they doing this in case of the EPP. Since not just the Hungarian liberal media attacks the Fidesz, but foreign, western ones, they also attack the EPP. They say "Orbán is a fascist" and this looks bad for the EPP, and the EPP knows it. They have to do something but they won't let themselves to salami up.
But back to the practical side, I don't really know what's the deal. The Fidesz had to give up some rights in the party (temporarily) but I can't measure it's weight. Maybe being in the EPP matters because it's the biggest party group in the EU. Juncker, Tusk and Tajani are all EPP members, they held key positions. Maybe it matters on the level of how the EU gibsmedats are distributed, countries led by EPP members might get more if the EPP has major say in the EU's budget? I dunno.

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 08:15:12 [Preview] No.24014 del
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Forgot illustration.

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 09:21:30 [Preview] No.24016 del
Brexit isn't happening.

Let me tell you what's going to happen and it's been planned from the start:
1) A "no deal" Brexit is denied by politicians. A terrible deal is deliberately made.
2) Voters are given a second referendum between Brexit with terrible deal or no Brexit.
3) Voters basically have to choose between remain or worse economy with still more immigrants. It's win win for the multi-nat powers that control Britain and Europe.
4) The result is so disastrous no other nation offers voters the choice.
5) Average voters are such cattle they won't vote for UKIP or anything other than the main 3-4 parties.

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 09:33:29 [Preview] No.24017 del
>13 national parties demanded the leadership confront Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán over his anti-democratic and anti-Semitic conduct
Since when? How can they be accused with anti-semitism? With both Hungarian Jewish community and Israel Orbán's relation is great, harmonic. Where does this shit come from?

Can happen.But I have to ask what do you base this on? Is there news about a second referendum? Not just speculation but has anyone (for example in the Commons) said such thing?

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 11:43:42 [Preview] No.24018 del
maybe they are just calling him an ebil naadse, who cares about the meaning of words anyway? orban baad
or maybe some reckless person actually tried to convey the proper meaning of the word, greatest ally notwithstanding, gasp!

Bernd 03/24/2019 (Sun) 17:03:48 [Preview] No.24025 del
Well yeah, after a while certain words can lose the original meaning and become simple derogatory terms. I don't think it is extended to anti-Arabs as well (Orbán isn't even anti-Arab to be honest) we (as in my family) speculate in this case anti-Semite is a substitute of anti-Soros. The problem with this in no govt. propaganda appears Soros' Jewish background.
Politico is clearly not written for the Hungarian people, it's for Westerners who know nothing about our country and Orbán can be demonized with painting him as an anti-Semite.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 12:56:37 [Preview] No.24038 del
>Can happen.But I have to ask what do you base this on? Is there news about a second referendum? Not just speculation but has anyone (for example in the Commons) said such thing?
Nothing. However, I have noticed lots of heel dragging and mentions of taking a 'no deal' Brexit off the table in the news. This combined with Soros dumping lots of money into Best for Britain to try and push a second referendum makes me think, that's the way it's going.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 14:14:14 [Preview] No.24039 del
>5) Average voters are such cattle they won't vote for UKIP or anything other than the main 3-4 parties.
What choice do they even have? UKIP is a meme without Farage and the only other anti-immigration options I can think of are shitty /pol/tard parties like BNP etc.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 17:13:31 [Preview] No.24040 del
The first two articles aren't the freshest, I can't find a date on the Guardian one.
Haha, Corbyn too is such a slimebag. Vote against every deal May tries to put on table then rejects no-deal to put the pressure on, accuse May with incompetency to make a deal and leans back to watch May squirm.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 17:20:05 [Preview] No.24041 del
Btw Guardian article:
>Downing Street said it had no qualms about the Soros donations to Best for Britain. “There are many political and campaign groups in this country – that’s entirely right and as you would expect in a democracy,” a spokesman said.
So some foreign dude funding political groups to influence the outcome of an important event in a country he has nothing to do with is totally acceptable in a democracy.
I wonder Athens would have allowed Spartans to have a say in their politics. I'm guessing no.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 20:23:32 [Preview] No.24049 del
Read these two articles:
...and am very smart now.
On one hand for a no-deal Brexit the Commons would have to agree to do so. It won't.
On the other hand for a second referendum the Commons should vote to hold one. Do I remember right and the first one was initiated by the people after a successful signature gathering?
Here: >>24038 the first article says they wanted to vote if they want a no-Brexit deal, however Politico says up for this day no binding decision was made.
Today they also vote on some shit like alternative Brexit deals supposedly at 10pm local time which is now or more precisely they already should have voted. I assume those alternative deals will be also turned down. But the second referendum is also on the table. Exciting.

Bernd 03/25/2019 (Mon) 22:55:30 [Preview] No.24050 del
Temer has been released after spending less than a week behind bars.

Bernd 03/26/2019 (Tue) 06:57:45 [Preview] No.24051 del
Justice in work I see.

So yesterday's vote was about if the Commons want to take over tailoring the deal themselves, and vote on a series of question if they want this or that oooor if they want to push a second referendum. They do this in the next couple of days. Since 29th March is on Friday.
It will also be asked (I expect) if no-deal is on the table but I'm not seeing ensured the reply will be binding, we'll see.
It is also can happen that the Commons can't accept any other deal, then they have to back May's unless they vote for second referendum.
The question of the latter is not a simple one, since even parties are divided, some MP's want Brexit, some not, even the Labour has Brexiteer members. My prediction they will turn down a second plebiscite because while there are Tories who doesn't support Brexit some of them stands beside the first one. Maybe all will insist on keep going instead turning to the people.
Corbyn goes one step further:
>"whether any deal should be put to the people for a confirmatory vote.”
So even the Commons agrees on a deal, now he puts forward the idea even that one has to be approved by the people. Very Democratic. Kek. What a slimebag. Frankly this would fit the bill of obstructionism but he doesn't really says they should do it he just contemplates if they should do it. So basically he doesn't really say anything.
But all this is bullshit anyway. Even if the Commons agrees on an alternative way the EU might not. Most likely not since they had an agreement with May's plan, it was fine, only the Commons didn't accept it. So again, back to May's plan.

Bernd 03/26/2019 (Tue) 16:05:29 [Preview] No.24053 del
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>Do I remember right and the first one was initiated by the people after a successful signature gathering?
>by the """"""""""people""""""""""
Pic related, it was rigged by Catholics and penguins.
>while there are Tories who doesn't support Brexit some of them stands beside the first one. Maybe all will insist on keep going instead turning to the people.
Even many of those who don't support Brexit would probably still prefer to honour the result of the first vote. May herself, for example. To me the idea of a second referendum still seems unlikely even with all the chaos happening currently.
>it was fine
People disagreed with her deal because it involved remaining in the single market and customs union for at least another 2 years (possibly indefinitely if no other partnership could be reached) to resolve the Ireland border issue. So we would still be pretty much in the EU while still also having to pay the £39 billion and without any right to vote on the laws they would still be applying to us. The whole reason people voted to leave in the first place was for more control over our laws and borders (especially with regards to immigration) which her deal isn't offering, hence the historic defeat in parliament.

Bernd 03/26/2019 (Tue) 16:55:54 [Preview] No.24054 del
I meant it was fine for the EU.

Bernd 03/27/2019 (Wed) 02:04:48 [Preview] No.24063 del
Yeah of course, but it's worth pointing out why it wasn't fine for pretty much everyone else. I guess the problem we're facing is like >>24016 posted where the choice is between either a shitty deal or no deal (or possibly a second referendum). But it's nothing new, democracy is always about picking the least shit option rather than the best one.

Bernd 03/27/2019 (Wed) 20:01:34 [Preview] No.24070 del
Politico pumped out a bunch of articles. To sum up: govt rejects a second referendum, Labour too, May gets more support for her solution, voices from EU changing their tune from urging for decision to "let's hear the opinion of those who want to revoke Article 50". Interesting.

Bernd 03/27/2019 (Wed) 20:29:57 [Preview] No.24071 del
But here's my opinion as Hungarian on Brexit.
For us a successful Brexit with a Britain that's doing all right will be the best outcome. Why? Because then we (and all the Eastern EU countries) would gain a leverage against Fronce and Germany and could hold leaving as a threat if centralization of the EU would rise or against any other chickenshit. It would be a sign that there is life outside EU, an alternative, a passable road. Without such, the more powerful EU members can boss around us.
And in case of a worst case scenario we could still leave the EU and would have partners other than Belorussia and Russia...
So any Hungarian who doesn't support Brexit is in fact working against our country and her sovereignty.

Bernd 03/28/2019 (Thu) 06:26:01 [Preview] No.24073 del
These days are about Brexit.
Some curiosity there - for me at least. So they didn't agree on anything, so May's deal back on the table they'll vote on Monday. But the deadline is tomorrow, so the new deadline entered in effect? But then which one? April 12 or May 22 (haha, is this a joke on the British PM and Catch 22)? I also want to point it out that they didn't vote on a second referendum but a "confirmatory referendum on any Brexit deal" - the two seems quite different. While the first one would suggest to ask the people again if they want the Brexit or not, while the second is about the confirmation of the deal the Commons agrees on, this is what was Corbyn talked about. Do I misunderstand something? Nevertheless they rejected the cancellation of Brexit so there would be no vote referendum on this.
I think the DUP will give in and accept May's deal despite the backstop. I think they just want to play hard to get and elongate the courtship so they can say something that polish their image (and ego)-

Bernd 03/29/2019 (Fri) 06:28:08 [Preview] No.24091 del
Still Brexit, they need to accept the "Withdrawal Agreement" so they can leave (?) on 22 May.
My problem with this whole Brexit thing, that the media just muddles the water and even when they write such articles as "explained" than they just explain the latest buzzwords but leave out other important infos. For example why didn't they told beforehand that the Commons only have to accept this so called Withdrawal Agreement? Well I know, because they wanted to inflate the drama about accepting a deal until today.
All right I don't read constantly politics just try to inform myself so I can post something about a matter when it arises, so I might missed something. Maybe it was told two years ago somewhere I dunno.

Bernd 03/29/2019 (Fri) 08:23:32 [Preview] No.24092 del
>Commons only have to accept this so called Withdrawal Agreement?
That's honestly the first I've heard of that. Politics is so cloaked!

Bernd 03/29/2019 (Fri) 13:43:42 [Preview] No.24097 del
>But then which one? April 12 or May 22
May 22nd if May's deal goes through or April 12th if it doesn't. The vote is happening today I think.
sauce: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47663031

Bernd 03/29/2019 (Fri) 15:55:13 [Preview] No.24100 del
Oh, turns out May's deal is called Withdrawal Agreement...

If I remember right the article wrote something what implied the new deadline is in effect. I questioned that one.
Yeah they voted today not long ago I think, I searched for Live broadcast and they are interviewing MPs after the vote. They turned it down. And since they had to agree on a deal by today but they didn't now they have the deadline of April 12.
So they have two weeks to come up with something. But this also can be interpreted as agree on canceling Article 50. Tories very vocal about keep the Brexit going however.
They might will be able to force Labour to accept something because Labour don't want hard Brexit. Or do they? Hard Brexit would surely result a Tory downfall, and excellent opportunity to take over the governing. On the other hand it would be easy to blame them as the ones who didn't accept any deals.
But wait a minute. Originally they should have agreed on a deal for today so the Brexit could be realized. So if they had agreed on something - let's say on May's deal - why the fuck would have given the EU them an extension? Shouldn't the Brexit have gone on is this sentence grammatically correct as planned?

I'm seriously considering I'll only talk about Brexit again if it's really done. Never?

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 10:31:59 [Preview] No.24124 del
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What's up with Turkish elections?

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 15:40:35 [Preview] No.24130 del
It's just local thing. People give a shit because they're bored and retarded.

Nothing significant will happen.

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Bolsonaro is on a state visit to Greatest Ally

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:06:50 [Preview] No.24139 del
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Ukraine has elections today. Main candidates are:

1. Zelenskiy - stand-up comedian, actor and media person who came up from nothing and everyone thought it is a joke.
2. Timoshenko. Good old beautiful Yulia again tries to become a president.
3. Poroshenko. You know this guy.
4. Other people who wouldn't be elected.

Funny, but Zelenskiy leads in the polls (~25%), and both others stay at 17%.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:08:09 [Preview] No.24140 del
Oh, I forgot that this thread has no obligatory election song.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:09:08 [Preview] No.24141 del
Here local elections are important. They can indicate the changes in the support of the parties. Also local governments lead by the opposition will get less money from the govt.

How's that help with the sludge turned out?

Oh I wanted to ask about that too.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:33:57 [Preview] No.24144 del
here erdoğan holds elections for lulz and shit.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:35:06 [Preview] No.24145 del
>How's that help with the sludge turned out?
It was more symbolic than anything, they left after only a few days.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 18:52:19 [Preview] No.24148 del
Communist party got one city in this election. These elections are a fucking joke

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Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:25:28 [Preview] No.24155 del
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Here is the results in realtime: https://www.cvk.gov.ua/pls/vp2019/wp300pt001f01=719.html

They only started calculation though.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:37:05 [Preview] No.24156 del
Who's behind him? Putin is hacking Ukrainian election?


Is Turkey objectively that much dictatorship?

So what did he do in Israel?

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:46:36 [Preview] No.24159 del
>So what did he do in Israel?
He'll transfer the embassy open an office with no diplomatic personnel in Jerusalem for commercial and technological contacts. His intellectual and Protestant supporters wanted an embassy transfer but he backed down months ago after pressure from agrarians (who prioritize trade with Arab countries) and the military.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:53:08 [Preview] No.24163 del
>commercial and technological contacts
After visiting Langley opening such obviously harmless places beyond suspicion is very suspicious.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:53:41 [Preview] No.24164 del

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 20:57:29 [Preview] No.24165 del
As long as he can please Olavo de Carvalho and the Protestants without angering Arabs, it works.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 21:39:35 [Preview] No.24166 del
>Who's behind him? Putin is hacking Ukrainian election?

It's hard to say. He is going without proper team and real program, it is somewhat protest vote. His alignment is unclear, because he said different things through the campaign.

Russian media somewhat supports him, although he isn't "pro-russian" candidate like people from east Ukraine. Maybe this is situation like "look, they are so crazy so they'll elect the movie star, also look how they hate evil corrupt Poroshenko". In past Timoshenko was considered a Russian-friendly candidate though.

It looks like small version of Trump campaign, when media got mostly positive news about him and some official people openly cheered when he was elected (and then they discovered that he isn't pro-Russian at all, but it was too late).

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 13:09:31 [Preview] No.24176 del

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 13:11:30 [Preview] No.24177 del
Oh dog now I even quoted the wrong post.
I might be getting too old for this whole shitposting thing tbh lads.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 15:54:13 [Preview] No.24185 del
Well time will tell then. He is a stand-up comedian maybe we'll witness some serious changes.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 17:03:47 [Preview] No.24189 del
Not an April fool's joke: Britain is still in the EU.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 17:41:13 [Preview] No.24192 del
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Meanwhile in Turkey. The province of Tunceli is now ruled by the Turkish Communist Party. Slavic, Goulash, German and Vietkong communism all failed, but Islamic communism is the way to go.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 17:50:48 [Preview] No.24193 del
Laughed for some reason.

Yes. It's in the thread: >>24148
Fun. Well many Islamic country was backed by the SU when the geopolitical situation demanded it. I wouldn't be surprised if the ideologists didn't created a version of Marxism just for Muslims, maybe they planted the seed and it survived. Or they just made up one by themselves.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 17:55:41 [Preview] No.24195 del
makes me wonder if communism is the perfect model for Mongol tribes. Sharing horses, girls and spreading communism by conquering more territory.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 19:24:51 [Preview] No.24196 del
Just woke up, what's up with the Brexit votes in Commons?

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 19:37:32 [Preview] No.24198 del
They not yet finished.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 19:52:37 [Preview] No.24199 del
Well what are they doing?

The sky newsfeed states that Bercow has to announce the result...

Wouldn't that be kinda important to do?

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 19:59:20 [Preview] No.24200 del
They have liek ten days. So no hurry.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 20:01:28 [Preview] No.24201 del
It's an hour for the results.
Also British ugliness in it's nekkid glory is shown by protesters.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 20:58:18 [Preview] No.24202 del
Now Sky News broadcasts images of the zoo's of different European countries. Warsaw has albino penguin, Berlin polar bear, Paris white people.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:05:45 [Preview] No.24203 del


Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:06:27 [Preview] No.24204 del
Rejected all four.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:07:06 [Preview] No.24206 del
Just as God intended, homo sapiens in all his glory. But how the fuck did they get into the parliament building?

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:10:20 [Preview] No.24207 del
>Motion C: Customs union - Defeated by 276 to 273
pretty close defeat

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:11:15 [Preview] No.24208 del
Scots are threatening with exiting the Union.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:13:46 [Preview] No.24209 del
Also no-deal rejected with 191 vs. 292. This one however is pretty big. It seems commons prefer closer ties with EU.
Now opposition hammers the customs union option.
But if they can't agree, than no deal.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:14:49 [Preview] No.24210 del
What's a good stream that isn't Sky?

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:16:46 [Preview] No.24211 del
I dunno. I usually just search for Brexit live on youtube and pick one.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:19:12 [Preview] No.24212 del
>makes me wonder if communism is the perfect model for Mongol tribes
No wonder it took over Russia.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:23:34 [Preview] No.24214 del
They are already blaming May while they aren't capable to reach a fucking compromise.

I thought our politics were stupid, but the British politics are absolutely retarded.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:28:42 [Preview] No.24216 del
I don't think so. As previously said somewhere above, all MPs are thinking in internal politics, what will come after Brexit, who will govern and such. And there might be considerations in relation Brexit many MPs don't want to express straight. For example some while saying don't want no deal, they might obstruct any tries to accept customs union even it means the result will be no deal.

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:32:54 [Preview] No.24217 del
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That awkward moment when you want to bring up your shithole with some problem and everyone leaves

Bernd 04/01/2019 (Mon) 21:42:11 [Preview] No.24218 del
BBC News or BBC One/Two if you can get it from your cable provider, as long as Andrew Neil is still commentator there and you don't watch the rest of the shows.
praise the means of Tengri
they do it all the time. It's like a dog who barks doesn't bite.

Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 15:06:40 [Preview] No.24224 del
Didn't the EU already say they wouldn't let them join if they left the UK? I think Spain were worried about the idea because it would encourage Catalans to do the same.
The worst part is that our incompetence is very much a good thing to the EU because it discourages other anti-EU countries from leaving. Of course that's if their governments would even give them a referendum in the first place, as we only had one thanks to a failed bid for power from the Conservatives.

Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 16:36:24 [Preview] No.24225 del
>Didn't the EU already say they wouldn't let them join if they left the UK?
Nothing is carved in stone, and those with such opinion might don't matter in the future, who knows what it holds. I think for such prohibition at least the EP should vote.
>it discourages other anti-EU countries from leaving.
True. They can just point it out how they make the mighty UK choke on their dicks how would fare that puny X or Y country.

What do you mean?

>they do it all the time. It's like a dog who barks doesn't bite.
Probably they try to use it as leverage, ofc they won't do it as long as they get what they want. Or get something close to that, such is the way of compromising.

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Oh god, just found out the Irish PM is a street shitter.

Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 19:45:49 [Preview] No.24231 del
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It's all make sense now.
The more you know: there's no Ireland flag in the Ireland article of Wikipedia, even tho so far all the countries I checked (for example to grab exact colors for Polanball comics of WC2018) have that feature.

sage Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 20:00:11 [Preview] No.24232 del
I have to correct myself. The Ireland article is about the island, it's the Republic of Ireland is about the contemporary state, and it has flag.

Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 22:41:07 [Preview] No.24233 del
The Israel visit is still spawning noisy but irrelevant headlines
>Bolsonaro prays at the Wailing Wall!
>Bolsonaro visits Holocaust museum!
>Bolsonaro says Nazism was leftwing!
>Bolsonaro visits an IDF unit, takes part in shooting practice and is praised for his aim!
>Bolsonaro's son tweets that he wants Hamas to explode!

Meanwhile, hundreds of billions of BRL on the national budget that could be saved within 10 years through pension reform are being lost as efforts to pass it through Congress are left without Bolsonaro's direct support and Congressmen sabotage the project.

Bernd 04/02/2019 (Tue) 22:45:22 [Preview] No.24234 del
Investor confidence is falling and economists predict stagnation will continue until 2020.

Bernd 04/03/2019 (Wed) 05:38:07 [Preview] No.24238 del
Whom do those headlines make happy? I mean it needs to have some political capital to gain to worth writing them. I assume he visits greatest allies, USA, Israel this is for strengthening the relations. Going such headlines loud at home instead just publish a quite article of two... they really want to tell someone they are doing this.
All right I admit it is also god as a smokescreen, a show to look like they are doing something meanwhile they are sitting on their hands all day.

Bernd 04/03/2019 (Wed) 12:53:48 [Preview] No.24244 del
Not only that but also he's a homosex.

Bernd 04/03/2019 (Wed) 13:53:34 [Preview] No.24251 del
at least not retard like spanish king

Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 09:40:35 [Preview] No.24292 del
Bye bye no-deal Brexit. Next stop, second referendum.



Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 09:57:42 [Preview] No.24293 del
Bye bye no-deal Brexit. Next stop, second referendum.



Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 10:02:02 [Preview] No.24294 del
Sorry, didn't mean to post twice.

Also: second referendum looms

Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 11:18:22 [Preview] No.24301 del
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Did he apologize for the Brazilian deathcamps in Poland?

Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 13:50:40 [Preview] No.24308 del
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>tfw Nige isn't here to save us this time
It's all ogre now, lads.

Bernd 04/04/2019 (Thu) 15:36:44 [Preview] No.24314 del
Is that decision binding? Because they voted down a no-deal brexit several (3? 4?) times now, but none of them led to mandatory result.

I saw two different interpretation of a second referendum, but I can imagine a third one.
The first is when they would ask the people again if they want Brexit.
The second would be the people vote the deal the Commons agreed upon beforehand to confirm it if they want it.
The third one would be several questions, basically the list of possible options of the deal and two more questions: if they would accept no-deal, or if they see it desirable to cancel Article 50. Or something like this.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 00:22:31 [Preview] No.24617 del
Bolsonaro sacked Education Minister Vélez Rodriguez. Despite decades of experience as a professor, he proved unable to handle a ministerial team drawn from his own contacts, Olavo de Carvalho's acolytes and military officers. Very little was actually done under his tenure and he kept sacking subordinates and changing his mind about appointments. Rodriguez, along with foreign minister Araújo, was one of the Olavist faction's positions in the cabinet.
His replacement is Abraham Weintraub, a dark horse who wasn't cited among the potential picks (the minister's dismissal was expected for a week). When asked about his position on de Carvalho, Weintraub cryptically answered "I appreciate both classical and rock music".

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 00:27:32 [Preview] No.24618 del
Olavo's daughter now claims he was a Muslim in the past there's also a lot of talk about him being a former astrologer and involved in the occult and had three wives.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 00:34:21 [Preview] No.24619 del
I dont like bolso for several reasons and this is just one of them

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-hVZIyD2DNk [Embed]

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 05:11:05 [Preview] No.24622 del
Ilaeri erections today is being herd. Will our governments continue to be bestest friends I wonder?

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 06:24:21 [Preview] No.24623 del
I wonder how king Bibi manages to stay in power.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 13:23:04 [Preview] No.24625 del
I thought the mickey mouse english pounds would lower in value but alas it has not

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 16:57:43 [Preview] No.24627 del
No better option. Still it's a coalition that governs.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 18:23:14 [Preview] No.24631 del
Surprisingly a plethora of parties are participating in the Israeli legislative election with real chance to acquire seats in the Knesset. Right now thirteen parties have members there, it is basically impossible for one party gaining 50% + 1 seat of the 120 available.
I would list these parties but all kinds of party alliances makes the thing a little confusing and I've no time now to solve this puzzle.
Bibi's party, he Likud is the biggest one, right now with the most seats. Their main opponent is Labor but during this election it seems a freshly formed party alliance, the centrist Blue and White party, pose the biggest threat, led by a certain Benjamin "Benny" Gantz, a former chief of staff and who enjoys the support of prominent military figures. Still, according an article's title on Haaretz's home page a coalition is possible between Bibi and Benny.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 18:48:05 [Preview] No.24635 del
I read somewhere that the jews with the funny hair is becoming a majority

that should be interesting in the future

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 19:11:14 [Preview] No.24636 del
Too few religious Jews for that.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 21:54:48 [Preview] No.24646 del
I call it the natural -and completely unstoppable- expansion of civilization. You can cut down 90% of the Amazon and you'll still have gigantic expanses of untouched forest for every purpose you can think of, and all the land you've freed can be used to contribute to the rest of the world's prosperity and house human lives and social relations. My friends, the land I identify with, the books I read the culture I'm immersed in and my life itself with would never have existed at if not for the clearing of large tracts of the Atlantic rainforest which used to cover all the east coast, and the same will happen for the Amazon.
Yes, this expansion happens in a chaotic and unplanned way but pipe dreams of completely isolating a gigantic, empty space from human life are not the only alternative.

Bernd 04/10/2019 (Wed) 05:48:16 [Preview] No.24653 del
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It seems Bibi's and Benny's parties won same amount of seats, 35 both.
Together with other right-wing parties Bibi can form a coalition with 65 seats secured all in all.
What I don't understand is that it seems the Blue and White was a member of the previous coalition, why didn't they joined arms?

Bernd 04/10/2019 (Wed) 15:58:41 [Preview] No.24666 del
you think deforestation is something good?

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Bernd 04/11/2019 (Thu) 15:11:12 [Preview] No.24724 del
I'm starting to suspect the UK will never leave the EU. I'm bretty sure EUrocrats don't want you guys leave, it is bad for business - Germany can't export to UK anymore freely, the leave creates a precedent and others might wanna leave - so they will give all the extensions of the world as much as Britain needs to keep them in the EU.
I think the least likely outcome is no-deal Brexit. The most likely is extending the extensions and then next UK government can backpedal on the deal, and UK remains.

Bernd 04/11/2019 (Thu) 18:14:12 [Preview] No.24735 del
As far as I'm aware no-deal Brexit is now an impossibility thanks to that recent vote that made it illegal under UK legislation. It seems we just have the choice between May's shitty deal or a second referendum.

Bernd 04/11/2019 (Thu) 18:20:51 [Preview] No.24737 del
Assange imprisoned, coup d'etat in Sudan and Brexit delayed. Quite an eventful day.

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Bernd 04/12/2019 (Fri) 17:02:11 [Preview] No.24790 del
Running on the European election with a party named after Brexit. Ebin.

Bernd 04/12/2019 (Fri) 23:17:02 [Preview] No.24803 del
News of the week is that Dias Toffoli, head of the Supreme Court, was one of the cryptic individuals referred to by codenames in Odebrecht emails. His codename was "my father's friend's friend". By contrast Lula's codename was simply "friend". Those codenames became notorious after it was revealed that Odebrecht had an entire department staffed for the sole purpose of handling its bribes and assigned codenames to the prominent figures it associated with. Low-ranking employess in the bribery department only knew the codenames and not the people behind them.
But this codename wasn't part of the main bribery scheme itself and was instead related to the construction of a dam. What exactly transpired in the dam's construction, Toffoli's role and whatever shady deal he made with Odebrecht are not yet known.

Bernd 04/13/2019 (Sat) 09:24:57 [Preview] No.24808 del
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General elections in Suomi tomorrow. Polls suggest Social-democrats to win before EbinFinns party.

Bernd 04/13/2019 (Sat) 11:58:36 [Preview] No.24810 del
Yeah. Tight results expected, some polls say:
Social Democrats 19%
Finns 16,3%
National Coalition 15.9%
Center 14.5%
Others show different numbers to the latter three but the SDP has a sure lead. But the real question could it form government? Last time the last three was on government together, until the Finns left. Even with 20% the SDP would need bout 4 parties to join in since only the Green League can expect above 10% result and the others are way below of it. Maybe SDP could form a coalition with Center, it is the closest to them from the three.
The major issue is the health care reform.
Interestingly the Soc-Dems are campaigning with tax raise to back the expenditure of social services.

Bernd 04/15/2019 (Mon) 16:30:38 [Preview] No.24860 del
final result is just a very close victory of the social democrats, they have just one seat more than the ebin finnish party.
Linus Torvalds (guy who made Linux) dad is in the EU parliament. The elections for EU parliament is in 6 weeks and it looks like Brits are going to vote for it too, as we have seen by the meme candidates that want to run for UKIP or Farage wanting to run for a new party.

Bernd 04/15/2019 (Mon) 17:18:25 [Preview] No.24862 del
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Social Democrats: 17,7%
Finns: 17,5%
National Coalition: 17%
Center: 13,8%
Greens: 11,5%
Left Alliance: 8,2%
Swedish People's: 4,5%
Christian Democrats: 3,9%

That's it. The big loser is the Center, people clearly don't want them back.
Soc-Dems can form coalition with just about anyone but the Finns. Coincidentally the only party that against immigration is the Finns.

Bernd 04/15/2019 (Mon) 18:09:08 [Preview] No.24866 del
how come finnish elections is so important

it is a insignificant little country

Bernd 04/15/2019 (Mon) 18:27:13 [Preview] No.24868 del
>it is a insignificant little country
Says Sweden...

It's customary here to cover elections all over the world. If anyone of us wants to write it. Everyone should present their own, but since we are so few with hueg gaps in nationality we discuss other nations too.
When something comes up in Sweded, feel free to give us some info.
In it's correct form we should write a who-is-who (parties, politicians) and upload maps to show relation between the results and geography, demographics etc. But that's not small undertaking.

Bernd 04/16/2019 (Tue) 10:06:52 [Preview] No.24887 del
Idk which party supports what aside from obvious ones.

Bernd 04/16/2019 (Tue) 17:26:57 [Preview] No.24892 del
Beside the obvious ones (Sod-Dems, Christ-Dems, Left, Greens) I dunno about the Swedes.
- Center = center-right (I guess economical liberal);
- National = center-right (conservative);
- Finns = right (radical or considered as such).
But will check, today I'd lotsa stuff to do and haven't even dined yet.

Bernd 04/16/2019 (Tue) 17:48:04 [Preview] No.24894 del
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Finns on not-kc said that Christian party is a hardcore burger tier evangelicals party.

Bernd 04/16/2019 (Tue) 21:41:02 [Preview] No.24906 del
Now another Supreme Court judge issued a gag order to the news site that broke this story, claiming that it's fake news and an attack on the institution. This backfired: his decision was severely criticized in the media and now everyone's talking about the story, which previously aroused only minor interest.

Bernd 04/16/2019 (Tue) 22:37:36 [Preview] No.24908 del
Search and seizure warrants have also been issued against the homes of several other individuals accused of spreading fake news against the Supreme Court. The Prosecutor General of the Republic opposes this measure and says it has no evidence and legal precedent, but the Court has chosen to ignore the Prosecutor General's complaints. Public opinion, the media, the Prosecutor General and some politicians (a Senator just proposed impeaching the judge) are against the Supreme Court, but it feels it has the power to do whatever it wants.

Bernd 04/17/2019 (Wed) 17:17:38 [Preview] No.24920 del
Maybe that was his intention all along.

It's always nice when those are the greatest criminals who are the leading figures of law enforcement.

Bernd 04/17/2019 (Wed) 18:13:15 [Preview] No.24923 del
It seems Erdogan lost both Ankara and Istanbul.

Meanwhile on the Hungary:
Tl;dr in English:
Some drunk hos borrowed a bus when they went home from a party and found it empty while the driver took a piss. They drove around on the steppes for a few hours. They were caught when they returned the bus, the police already was there. They caused some minor dents when they hit a traffic sign or some such.

Bernd 04/17/2019 (Wed) 18:29:12 [Preview] No.24925 del
>They drove around on the steppes for a few hours

just hungary things

Bernd 04/18/2019 (Thu) 01:37:57 [Preview] No.24927 del
One of Bolsonaro's sons arrived in Hungary and is set to meet Orbán. Later on he'll see Salvini.

Bernd 04/18/2019 (Thu) 05:10:09 [Preview] No.24930 del
Yeah, the two countries knit the ties closer.
He talked with our foreign minister and they agreed they both don't like Soros and don't want migrants but respect Christianity very much. They accepted a common economical strategy to strengthen economical relations, agrotechnology, water management(?), pharma industry, and common research programs. Hungary gives 250 scholarships to Brazilian students, and support for the Benedictines to operate the Hungarian school for the Hungarian diaspora in Brazil.

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 08:43:32 [Preview] No.24992 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qCM6Uq7CAnU [Embed]

The UK's Upcoming Porn Ban Explained - TLDR News

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 18:07:09 [Preview] No.25009 del
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Comedy gold.
>The national exit poll, which consisted of results from a number of polling agencies, showed Zelenskiy was projected to win 73.2 percent of the vote compared to Poroshenko’s 25.3 percent — a margin of nearly 48 percentage points.

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 18:09:13 [Preview] No.25010 del
Urine elected a clown as their president. Slava Ukraine

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 18:13:41 [Preview] No.25011 del
you beat me, hohils really voted for a puppet of a Jewish oligarch.
>Kolomoiskyi controls his business empire from Switzerland.
I take it back, he's a good lad.

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 19:00:33 [Preview] No.25012 del
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Sorry. Wrong pic.

I wonder what Hoholbernds think about this.

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 19:52:17 [Preview] No.25013 del
they live in a society I guess. no more honk and joker memes please.

Bernd 04/21/2019 (Sun) 23:04:37 [Preview] No.25016 del
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Some are blaming Rooster "meddling" for this

Bernd 04/22/2019 (Mon) 06:59:16 [Preview] No.25024 del
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>that image

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 02:09:37 [Preview] No.25101 del
they're hastily moving towards superpower status

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 07:56:01 [Preview] No.25112 del
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first thing you need to be a superpower is railroads

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2qocQsqVNgI [Embed]

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 12:39:21 [Preview] No.25121 del
and toilets

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 16:57:58 [Preview] No.25127 del
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heh you haven't seen that map? india built toilets in the last few years

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 17:03:18 [Preview] No.25128 del
Polan could have made serious bank on it but I'm pretty sure they were left out.

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 17:12:16 [Preview] No.25131 del
maybe they can have a contract on maintenance

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 22:17:11 [Preview] No.25146 del
You can always build toilets within wagons and railway stations.

Bernd 04/24/2019 (Wed) 22:53:42 [Preview] No.25149 del
The Supreme Court of Justice (not the same thing as the Supreme Federal Court, which is usually referred to as the Supreme Court) judged Lula's condemnation. They accepted it but reduced the sentence, so he may get off to a lighter punishment instead of his current cell before the end of this year. If he doesn't get a new condemnation, that is, and he may very well gain another as he's under judgement on half a dozen other charges of corruption.

Meanwhile public financing of artists has been squeezed: the limit on how much could be requested for a project was lowered from R$ 60 million to just R$ 1 million. Museums and a few other institutions currently covered within public cultural funding are exempt from this change.

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 05:31:42 [Preview] No.25220 del
Every case of his is judged separately? We (usually?) unite the cases and give one sentence after the whole is weighed. Or maybe I misunderstood something.
Also from 60 to mere 1 is a giant reduction.

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 09:48:09 [Preview] No.25224 del
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dedicated toilet trains

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 16:05:39 [Preview] No.25241 del
Did your head of state bow down to our chink overlords and their chairman Poh today?

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 16:27:45 [Preview] No.25244 del
his hairline is amazing for his age

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 16:28:29 [Preview] No.25245 del
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>Chairman Pooh
Would vote.

Bernd 04/26/2019 (Fri) 21:10:29 [Preview] No.25263 del
The Ministry of Education will transfer some funds from Humanities courses to STEM ones.

Bernd 04/28/2019 (Sun) 22:11:50 [Preview] No.25320 del
Socialists win the elections in Spain. The parliament stays fragmented as no side is able to form a stable government.
Socialists 29%
Conservatives 16.7%
Ciudadanos (European liberals, as in economy friendly) 15.8%
Podemos (leftist populists) 14.3%
Vox (right wing nationalists) 10.2%

Elections in Belgium and for the European parliament are next month. India is under way but takes a whole month.

Bernd 04/28/2019 (Sun) 22:32:29 [Preview] No.25323 del
you would think spain would be more conservative since they had franco ruling that country for so long

I heard spain is very sjw and feminist

Bernd 04/28/2019 (Sun) 22:33:21 [Preview] No.25324 del
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>Elections in Belgium
didnt they not have a goverment for like 4 years or something

Bernd 04/29/2019 (Mon) 05:28:25 [Preview] No.25335 del
Wait. I wanted to follow this more closely. I missed it. Thanks for the update, mang.
I saw some article headlines on politico earlier which implied there's a conservative upsurge in Spain...

Bernd 04/29/2019 (Mon) 19:57:51 [Preview] No.25367 del
Votes from conservative party went to right-wing and liberal citizens party. Commentators claimed that this was due to the many corruption scandals. I'm surprised that the issue of burry Franco somewhere else didn't backlash and the socialists won nevertheless. The backlash is in form of the votes for the right wing party Vox, but they didn't make up for the huge losses of the conservative party that is on an all time low now. Meanwhile moderate republicans gained more votes than Pigdemon's party in Catalunya and Socialists won Barcelona. I don't know much about the economy besides tourism and building unnecessary stuff and of course growing strawberries in January.

Bernd 04/29/2019 (Mon) 20:15:18 [Preview] No.25376 del
They also have orange and gypsy musicians.
I wonder how Catalunya will be effected on the longer run.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 10:19:46 [Preview] No.26373 del
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>tfw just voted for Nige

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 12:43:33 [Preview] No.26377 del
>tfw you have never voted in your life beacuse you are an anarchist

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 17:39:45 [Preview] No.26394 del
I would too but I think one needs a legit address in the country where he wishes to cast his vote.
We'll vote on the 26th. I'm not sure I'll go.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 18:50:37 [Preview] No.26401 del
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based and redpilled
Just come and live at my house before 10pm tonight (no homo)
I was looking at the options you have on Wikipedia and it seems like mostly /pol/ and /leftypol/ tier meme parties from what I can see. Personally I would at least consider going just to submit a defaced ballot, but that's only because my polling station is only around a 2 minute walk from where I live.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 18:53:11 [Preview] No.26403 del
I didn't vote, idk how things go in there but if you are not persuaded that there is a good party but only lesser evil, don't vote. This only justifies their behaviour.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 18:59:46 [Preview] No.26406 del
you are british?

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 19:22:49 [Preview] No.26408 del
I think I would need to register too first.

I don't vote on Hungarian parliamentary elections, I consider the current system illegitimate, municipal elections would be different but the parties are the same. I have reservations against the European Union too, tho I acknowledge that here in Central Eastern Europe we would need something like this anyway. But we don't, just this pile of horse manure.
Ofc there's no party I would support with absolutely clear conscience, so that's there too.

No. You can vote on any party of any country without being citizen, but local address and registration needed.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 19:38:14 [Preview] No.26409 del
>I was looking at the options you have on Wikipedia and it seems like mostly /pol/ and /leftypol/ tier meme parties from what I can see.
Since I don't vote for communist (Munkáspárt = Worker's Party) the only one left is the Mi Hazánk (Our Homeland) but I have problems with that too (yeah they are /pol/-tier meme party). Maybe Jobbik but no. All the others I wouldn't take them into consideration, not for one moment.
There's the MKKP, the joke party, but it was more sympathetic when that dude did his actions alone just for the heck of it and not for political ambitions.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 19:40:14 [Preview] No.26410 del
I thought you would vote for jobbik

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 19:50:22 [Preview] No.26411 del
No. When I started my voting career I voted MIÉP. Jobbik took it's place on the palette but it always smelt bad. Maybe because of it's Fidesz origin, or because of the leading staff, or because of the kuruc.info, or because of all the people who wouldn't belong to that part of the political spectrum. I dunno.
Now I also don't agree with them getting all warmed together with the other opposing parties (socialists and liberals) during the last election. They lost face in the public eye with that move, no result to show and they didn't gain anything only their party got split. They should have remain independent from them, that way they would still have dignity. Well if we can talk about that in case of a political party.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 19:52:47 [Preview] No.26412 del
Brexit edition huh. Nice EU parliament vote you have there.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 20:24:28 [Preview] No.26418 del
take the ted pill

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aTb0Rj_O6nw [Embed]

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 20:42:01 [Preview] No.26420 del
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delet this

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 21:00:01 [Preview] No.26430 del
Swiss' are losing their guns atm. Apparently they vote on gun checks. RIP.

Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 21:33:04 [Preview] No.26436 del
As long as you aren't finished with the army, you get to keep your AR. New laws won't change this. So I still have an AR from the Swiss army at home. In Switzerland you go back to the army for 3 weeks every year until you have served the necessary days corresponding to your rank. If you want to keep it after you are finished with the army you have to go voluntarily to a second organised shooting next to the mandatory one and you need to apply for a gun permit. They will also turn off the automatic feature for those who want to keep it, so you can only shoot single shots. Easiest way to keep your gun is to join a shooting club, they exist in every village and you get to train with other people.
Swiss people voted in favor of the new law, so we can keep using the EU database for criminals and can send refugees back to Italy when their fingerprints were registered there first. I won't complain, 66% said yes and at least we get to vote on such referendums all the time.
I'm a pretty bad shooter, I hate cleaning my AR, so I won't keep it. But this reminds me that I still have to go to the shooting range next month to shoot the mandatory 20 shots on a 300 meter target.

Bernd 05/24/2019 (Fri) 06:58:16 [Preview] No.26456 del
isnt the rifles plugged?

Bernd 05/24/2019 (Fri) 10:01:24 [Preview] No.26463 del
May isn't even over yet, but May is gone
does this count as haiku or limerick?

Bernd 05/24/2019 (Fri) 10:12:05 [Preview] No.26464 del
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> Maybe Jobbik but no
you're probably indo-nigger scum sorry for your heritage problems

Bernd 05/24/2019 (Fri) 12:47:09 [Preview] No.26466 del
maybe he is indo-nigger-jew

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Bernd 05/24/2019 (Fri) 14:32:25 [Preview] No.26479 del
there is no chance that nigel will become prime minister

boris is the most likely candidate

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Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 01:32:03 [Preview] No.26546 del
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Yeah, I don't think much will come out of it

Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 15:49:48 [Preview] No.26619 del
nah deel brixt X--D

Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 18:06:45 [Preview] No.26666 del
Here EU election turnout is quite high, 41,74% was at 18:30. It will be over 42. Compared to that in 2014 27,64% of the voters went.

Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 18:24:06 [Preview] No.26668 del
>>26666 (checked)
Here it's slightly above 30% but it hasn't all been counted yet. That's still a record.
I myself didn't go vote.

Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 18:32:12 [Preview] No.26669 del
I missed out too.
I think EU elections are unpopular in Eastern EU.

According to an exit poll:
- Fidesz won 14 seats
- DK, MSZP (two "socialist") and Jobbik 2-2-2
- Momentum (young liberals) 1
- LMP, Mi Hazánk, MKKP didn't get enough for a seat.
But this still isn't the real result. Sounds plausible tho.

Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 21:13:27 [Preview] No.26681 del
So it seems our seats will be divided like this:
Fidesz 13
DK 4
Momentum 2
Jobbik 1

Fidesz could mobilize well, the higher turnouts mostly from places that traditionally supports them.
LMP is the biggest loser of this election. They have a solid place in our parliament, but this means they're losing support. There were some losses in their leadership too, maybe people who preferred those guys stopped supporting the party. They also can't provide anything substantial to the people. What I heard today with half ear they try to push the environmentalism line, a green party and all that, but "fighting against climate change" is just too abstract for the people who care more about their day to day life.
The surprise is the DK. They are those spineless "socialists" who crashed the country back in 2006-2008. Some people (not even a few) are still capable of voting for them.

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Europoon Parliamentary Elections results
The only question I see in the forming of the governing coalition: will the EPP and S&D make a deal? Our media suggested earlier Weber and Timmermans are starting to warm up to each other.
This "euroskeptic" label is such a bullshit. Fidesz and Orbán are 100% pro-EU, Jobbik and now Mi Hazánk are the euroskeptics (and I guess the Workers Party). It does seem they start to use this label to stigmatize those who don't want centralization, who don't want a United States of Europe.
Frankly it would be better if this construction would collapse. Come the Flood and end this farce.

Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 14:42:41 [Preview] No.26693 del
>This "euroskeptic" label is such a bullshit.
This so much. PiS in Poland is also labeled this way.

Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 15:56:01 [Preview] No.26694 del
These journalists ought to be more educated than the average people, they should know that if two opinions exist about how a thing should be done, it doesn't mean that one of these opinions is against the thing itself. For example if we look back to ancient Athens at the rivalry of Themistocles and Aristides we see how their opinion collides, but both kept in mind Athens' interest. Tho Themistocles got the chance to proved to be right, and he was, we can see that Aristides wasn't against Athens either. So do these journalists really think that those who oppose the centralization are really want to quit EU or dissolve it? This is how the common people think and those who try to inform them about the world should be above this level.
But this is how we can know that these journalists aren't there to make information available but to shape the opinion of those whom they can reach.

Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 16:57:14 [Preview] No.26696 del
some observations from the elections:
liberals won the most new seats thanks to macaroni bringing them seats from frons, they can choose witch side they want to support
rightwing/populists/anti-EU parties didn't win as much as expected
British youtubers Sargon and Count Dankula miserably failed
Zoomers (young women in particular) love the Green party and generated some buzz against the Christian parties because of the upload filter
voter turnout was with 51% really high
in some places social-democrats are a marginal party now, in others they seem to recover and won the most votes in the Netherlands and Spain

Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 17:16:46 [Preview] No.26697 del
Yeah, liberals won big time, since green also liberal, just usually with some economically socialist ideas.
EPP is in a tight place now. They don't want join forces with "euroskeptics" but conservatives are way to few, they need the liberals and greens. If they really want to take away the sovereignty of the members state they better make a deal with socdems to gain 2/3. I dunno how significant that is in the EP but usually it is.
Switzerland got the best deal again...

Bernd 06/12/2019 (Wed) 16:58:51 [Preview] No.27163 del
Germs and Frenchies are wooing each other steadily but this courtship may take a while until they finally decide who gets what.

Bernd 06/21/2019 (Fri) 18:52:26 [Preview] No.27490 del
Daniel Tourinho Filho, head of the Christian Labor Party (PTC) in Rio de Janeiro, was found dead in his apartment today. His cause of death has not yet been made public. He was the son of the party's national president.

Bernd 06/22/2019 (Sat) 06:32:32 [Preview] No.27498 del
Are real peso supremacists to blame for this extrajudicial killing?

Bernd 06/22/2019 (Sat) 07:06:20 [Preview] No.27499 del
i dont believe brexit will ever happen. its just there are people in deep with he government wont allow it to happen no matter what. and if people revolted they are ready to spill their blood.

Bernd 06/26/2019 (Wed) 05:27:18 [Preview] No.27589 del
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What's up with Istanbul?
So basically they held an election where Erdogan's party lost, so they held a new one and were beaten even more but in the end it's fine?

>i dont believe brexit will ever happen.
Yeah, I concur.
>its just there are people in deep with he government wont allow it to happen
I think basically more than half the MP's don't want it, and many lobbyist groups and the EU with politicians and power groups neither who can influence them one way or another.
People doesn't matter much, they don't even know what they want and can't really know. Maybe they'd do just fine outside the EU but media constantly preaches doom. And media what's the media said and the truth only can align by chance.
But even they have a result of a proper referendum the politicians managed to play around and spend the time with useless wankery. They can drag the issue on infinitely and the whole thing is moot.

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