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Romania and hungary, clay Bernd 05/09/2019 (Thu) 19:05:31 [Preview] No. 25719
So basically, from what I know romania got alot of clay after ww1. Transylvania is hungarian clay to some people. But who are the romanians? Are they people that the ottomans resettled? Enlighten me on this.


Bernd 05/09/2019 (Thu) 19:33:04 [Preview] No.25720 del
>Are they people that the ottomans resettled?
No.
>Enlighten me on this.
Will tomorrow.

Ofc I would interested in reading the others' opinion.


Bernd 05/09/2019 (Thu) 23:17:13 [Preview] No.25732 del
>>25719
>Are they people that the ottomans resettled?
we did lots of shit, but this one s not one of them thank dog

>Transylvania is hungarian clay to some people
historically it is, romanians didn't even conquer it ww1 allies just handed them over.


Bernd 05/10/2019 (Fri) 05:23:43 [Preview] No.25740 del
All right here we are.
Romanians were created from Wallachs (Vlahs) and Moldavians in the second half of the 19th century.
But since I know what you are interested in: they were sheep (goat?) herders from the Balkan peninsula, according to the Alexiad by the starting decades of the 12th century they resided in the Balkan mountains. I guess since they were mobile people in small, family level units they were already on the move to the north of the Danube, into the Carpathians they might arrived first the late decades of the 12th, again in a sporadic fashion.
The first sources of their settlements in the Carpathian basin are from the first half of the 13th century. The first organized resettlement initiated by Hungarian kings might have been in the latter half of it after the Mongol campaigns of 1241-42, at the times when the Cumans were settled on the Great Hungarian Plains. However I have to note even the area of Wallachia wasn't empty where those herders arrived, there were already others there, like Slavs, Bulgarians (whom at that time we can consider as Slav I guess) Pechenegs, Cumans, so when population were moved over the Carpathians to here then not just the "original" Vlahs arrived. Back than nationality as we know it didn't exist, it didn't matter for the landowners what language their serfs spoke, those were just tax subjects to them anyway.
The constant wars of the Ottoman times did chip away great number of Hungarians and more Vlahs were settled in in an organized fashion.
Supposedly the language of the herders did contain a minuscule amount of Latin layer, and they are considered hailing from the southern parts of the late Illyria, they could still be proud Romans based on these. But for political reasons they chose to create this myth about their Daco-Roman origin instead.


Bernd 05/10/2019 (Fri) 08:44:54 [Preview] No.25747 del
>>25740
so simply put, they were sheep herders that got lucky? why does balkan people hate eachother so vehemently?


Bernd 05/10/2019 (Fri) 16:33:55 [Preview] No.25817 del
>>25747
>so simply put, they were sheep herders that got lucky?
Maybe. But back then on the Balkan mountains they weren't just herders, I mean a bunch of people with this profession, but they were a folk already, with some level of organization, they could field 5000 archers for emperor Alexios, which is a considerable number.
After they settled in Wallachia and Moldova they mixed with those already there, their nobility oftentimes had Pecheneg background. Pechenegs rapidly lost their identity probably due to the cultural pressure of Orthodoxy.
The new Vlahs who formed there played their cards well I say. They knew they couldn't stand against the powers surrounded them so they oftentimes bowed with the wind blowing. Their leaders were also shrewdly opportunistic.


Bernd 05/20/2019 (Mon) 15:33:09 [Preview] No.26257 del
>>25747
Now that I think about this luck thing, I'm not convinced they are lucky.
They fared worse than us even with Transylvania, which is pretty rich region, on the edge there are parts of the Great Hungarian Plain with fertile soil, the hills and mountains are (were) covered with forests with good wood, some mineral resources too (even gold). Even right now they faring somewhat worse.
And the fate of the countries: after WWII they got as a reward what we got as punishment, 40 years of communism and occupation. How's that for luck?

>why does balkan people hate eachother so vehemently?
I forgot you asked this and am not sure about the answer. That would be easy to say that they are small, poor and irrelevant whom was raped by every power that was little bit stronger by them, not to mention the big ones. They participated in these wars along the big players who pretty much forced them to that but they fucked with each other enough on their own too. They have inferiority complex and very provincial view, they only see their neighbours and they only want to be a little bit better of then them on their expense. Huh, turns out this easy answer is pretty complex too.


Bernd 05/20/2019 (Mon) 16:14:09 [Preview] No.26261 del
>>25817
>>26257
Did the big powers at that time wanted to break up hungary in order to weaken it or why did they make hungary loose alot of provinces


Bernd 05/20/2019 (Mon) 18:22:39 [Preview] No.26267 del
>>26261
You mean after WWI? Because what I refered to as "big powers" were all the powers during the past thousand years (among them, Hungary).
Several factors came to play.
The "Wilsonic" idea of self-determination, that every nation deserves it's own country was a popular one.
The great powers didn't want a local power close to the previous regime (Habsburgs) to have influence in the region, they were very jumpy the old dynasty will come back (it shows even later after both Austrians kicked them out and we thwarted two restauriation attempts). They wanted to create an Entente friendly counterbalance against Germany in the hood but without empowering one player.
The rise of communism also caused lots of pants to be shat thoroughly, this new counterbalance also meant to be as an insulation layer.
All these small nations who demanded freedom, relevance came in handy. They also demanded land, all from Hungary, so they got from Hungary. The decisionmakers didn't care the demands were unreasonable, they didn't knew the situation, they lacked information, especially accurate information. And false information were supplied by these little countries readily.
Then communist seized the power on the Hungary and this pretty much closed the gate behind us. Even after it was gone and our diplomats got out to France it didn't matter what they said, they weren't there to present their arguments, they were there to sign the dictate.
Hungary was punished for the war and communism.


Bernd 06/08/2019 (Sat) 19:46:39 [Preview] No.27026 del
I guess this is a good thread for posting this.
http://www.banhegyesy.com/

Here's this dude, roaming around in Romania and takes photos of Orthodox churches. The twist is presented by the Romanian state.
Photo series inspired by a phenomenon in Nyárádtő. An Orthodox church was built out over the hundreds years old Greek-Catholic church in the Transylvanian village, entirely incorporating it. This is how the absurd situation of „a church in the church” came into being. The photo series turns people’s attention to the centrally manipulated process of identity formation through the symbolical and abrupt spreading of the Orthodox Church, which carries on in a different format the national homogenization attempt of the communist era. Since the change of the regime, more than 7000 Orthodox churches were built in Romania, and more than 1000 are under construction. This means that in the last twenty-seven years every second day a church was handed over in Romania. The extent of public funds is unquestionably a matter of political inducement. 87% of the money appropriated to church constructions goes to the Orthodox Church out of the 18 officially affirmed churches in the country.

You can find more temple pictures on his site and other photos of other topics. Some of it looks really well.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 08:29:47 [Preview] No.27078 del
>>25719

Don't listen to this dumbass. Romanians are romanised Dacians, basically people native to the Carpathian basin area that speak a romance language, just like Hungarians are magyarised slavs. Romanians have always called themselves "român" regardless of what state (Wallachia, actually Țara Românească (The Romanian Lalnd) since the earliest writings (pic rellated), Moldavia, Transylvania). There is proof for continuous settlement of Transylvania, there is zero evidence for any kind of migration from the Balkan mountains. Not to mention that it doesn't even make any sense linguistically, since the Latin spoken in Albania was different than the one in Romania.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 08:34:11 [Preview] No.27079 del
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>>27078
what state they lived in*

Here's a census from 1853 of Transylvania showing Romanians in the majority. They have always been the majority. Hungarians were conquerors that were few in number so they had to even ask Germans to settle (who also remained few in number). There's your redpill. Basically romance-speaking Dacian peasants. As for toponyms, all river names were inherited from ancient times, unlike in Ukraine.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 08:36:40 [Preview] No.27080 del
Interesting how Hungarian history changed after 1867.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 08:46:44 [Preview] No.27081 del
I see Bogdan was booted from Kohl and he does his rounds all over on imageboards.
Don't mind him. He has a fragile mind.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 08:53:49 [Preview] No.27083 del
>>27081
Not as fragile as your theories, gypsy.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 13:02:24 [Preview] No.27091 del
>>27079
rofl, Turks are majority in köln. should we claim it xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

ironic but sad joke :^(


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 13:57:56 [Preview] No.27094 del
>>27091
Today he is butthurt about the military cemetery in Székelyföld. The argument is going on for over a month now but the news arrived at the chans only these days.
The situation in short:
- The place saw fights during both WWI and WWII. Many soldiers died in that valley on all sides. However Hungarian (and allied) soldiers were buried at one place, Romanians have their graves all around the valley (I'm not sure about the Soviets).
- This is the only military cemetery for Hungarians left in Székelyföld, all the other was liquidated by the Romanian governments.
- Now a Romanian village registered the cemetery as it's public property. On county level this decision was declared illegal. However in the meantime (previously this year) they erected 52 concrete crosses for nominal Romanian casualties over a place which yet to be revised and rehabilitated, creating a "Romanian parcel" to "offset" the cemetery's Hungarian characteristics.
- There are dead soldiers below, but they are unidentified, and most likely not Romanian.
- Another settlement, Székely one, close by also claims the cemetery as it's own and they declared the Romanian act a falsification of history and insulting to the remembrance of the deceased.
- A group of civilians covered the concrete crosses with black bags, the police started an investigation of the case.
- The Romanians also erected a monument, which they wanted to consecrate. Hungarians organized a demonstration to stop them. Turbo-Romanians arrived and chimped out.
- As today there is no solution to the problem.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 14:31:24 [Preview] No.27095 del
>>27094

You missed to tell how it was made an international cemetery in 1926 for soldiers of 7 nationalities. Did King Gypsy's propaganda ministry not tell you that? Further, the Hungarians living there profaned the site in 1994 by removing the Romanian crosses.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 14:36:30 [Preview] No.27096 del
>>27091

The difference is the mass immigration of dürks is well attested.

Romanians were the majority in Transylvania since the middle ages, plenty of writers who were there in those times including Corvin's personal biographer attest this. Explain to me how there were so many despite being socially and financially disadvantaged, ie serfs? There was no welfare state back then.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 15:48:16 [Preview] No.27100 del
>>27096
>>27096
several independent resources dont confirm this

1800's are not middle ages.

before being snarky and witty atleast reach to double digit IQ levels.

thanks for reading

not really :DDDD


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 16:49:51 [Preview] No.27103 del
>>27100
I wasn't talking about the 1800s turdbrain.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 17:15:08 [Preview] No.27106 del
Haha Bogdan gave me inspiration for a Bong.


Bernd 06/10/2019 (Mon) 17:37:50 [Preview] No.27107 del
>>27103
I thought you'd understand it, I was putting emphasis on you had no any relevant souce about middle ages.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 06:20:54 [Preview] No.27117 del
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>>27107

Antonio Bonfini, biographer of Corvinus wrote in the 15th century:

Because the Romanians are descendants of the Romans, a fact that even today is attested to by their language, a language that, even though they are surrounded by diverse barbarian peoples, could not be destroyed.... Even if all kinds of barbarian attacks flooded over the province of Dacia and the Roman people... we can see that the Roman colonies and legions that had only recently been established could not be annihilated. Drowned in waves of barbarian attacks, they still preserved the Roman language and, so as never to lose it, they fought back so ferociously that one could observe that they were fighting not only to preserve their way of life, but even more so to preserve their language.

So already in the 15th century the Roman origin and Latin language of the Romanians was attested even at the Hungarian court. Kill yourself. I have other sources from the same period pertaining to Romanians being the most numerous but I won't waste my time now.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 06:21:13 [Preview] No.27118 del
Forgot my all-important SAGE!


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 06:25:07 [Preview] No.27119 del
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this kills the gypsy


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 06:27:29 [Preview] No.27120 del
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>>27106
Have inspiration for a suicide instead.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 08:03:24 [Preview] No.27121 del
>>27120
wow...I could have never had hoped for modern eastern european history to be summarized so succinctly


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 08:53:37 [Preview] No.27122 del
>>27117
That's his personel view not a main source. Plus romanians are not descedants of romans. İn Italy roman is just quickly vulgarized because Latin knowing common folk was living in there which allowed it to vulgarized after fall of wre and dying of roman administration.

Latin speaking common folk was minority in places romania, lusitania etc. So it got less vulgarized as it is spoken by some romans ruling dacian peasants.

But I doubt you would get it.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 13:51:29 [Preview] No.27126 del
>>25740

How do Hungarian extremists explain how what are according them a bunch of shepherds that wandered from the Balkan mountains became the most numerous people in Transylvania despite being excluded from the Unio Trio Nationum, being religiously persecuted and impoverished (having their lands confiscated)?


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 13:52:50 [Preview] No.27127 del
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>>27122

Shitskins don't get to tell me about my history. Go fuck a goat.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 14:26:36 [Preview] No.27128 del
>>27122
Anton Verancsics (Verantio) in 1549: “Transylvania is inhabited by three nations, the Szecklers, the Saxons, and the Hungarians; I would, nevertheless, add the Romanians, who, although they easily equal the number of all the others, do not have any liberties or a nobility, nor any rights of their own besides a small number living in the Haţeg district, where they say Decebal’s capital was, and who, during the time of John Hunyadi, born there, were granted aristocratic status because they had always taken part in the struggle against the Turks. The other [Romanians] are all commoners, bondsmen to the Hungarians and having no place of their own, spread everywhere, throughout the country" and lead "a miserable life"”

Emperor Joseph II of Austria, who travelled through Transylvania, spoke of the Romanians: “incontestably, the oldest and most numerous denizens of Transylvania.”

There are many many others. Stop your bullshitting already. You know nothing.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 14:33:47 [Preview] No.27129 del
>>27128
hungypsians and their asslickers BTFO

HALF THE TOTAL POPULATION of 1.5M


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 14:38:33 [Preview] No.27130 del
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>>27122
Joseph II's personal view


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 15:21:12 [Preview] No.27132 del
>>27127
rofl'd those are gypsies your indo nigga brothaz. you post these shit for years yet nobody takes you seriously, have you ever thought why?


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 15:22:35 [Preview] No.27133 del
>>27120
Don't worry, your BONG will be low-key and dignified. However I'm not sure when I'll have the time to draw it, so be patient.

>>27121
What's more surprising that Bogdan is blind for the irony and the criticism that image holds.
It tells us how they aren't hesitating to kill their old mentor who selflessly helped them out from the gutters, the dirt and shit, who was father in stead of their father, who brought them up, who fed them and dressed them, who taught them everything they now. And now as he grew old and weak, and they became grown up and strong they are now willing to murder the one who groomed them, as a show of gratitude.
So many things in that picture.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 15:51:18 [Preview] No.27137 del
>>27133
Do all romani compatriots are this dumb or is it just bogdan?

Btw, bogdan sounds like boktan which means 'from shit'. geg


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 16:04:01 [Preview] No.27138 del
>>27137
I was in Transylvania decades ago as a kid and there weren't any problems. Those of them who come to Hungary - as tourists or even to work - are also fine, the tourists come to have a good time, the workers are keep to themselves. It's not a too large subset of Romanians who can't behave, as far as I know mostly from the old Wallachia, Moldovans usually don't care that much.
Judging by the interaction with others on the chans they can be stubborn and spiteful - tho some of what they post are obvious banter - but they don't hijack every topic unlike Bogdan. He is one of a kind.
At least now he keeps it in this thread, so it's fine. Try not to feed him too much, he can go on all day.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 17:43:23 [Preview] No.27139 del
Keep barking. Funny how you dumb subhuman niggers have no responses to my information.

>their old mentor

More like oppressor. See Verantio's writings >>27128.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 17:45:09 [Preview] No.27140 del
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>>27137
>Do all romani compatriots are this dumb

Get flushed, t*rd.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 17:46:00 [Preview] No.27141 del
Interesting how t*rdgay has the largest gypsy population in the world. Truly they are one and the same people.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z7k14sEkUW8 [Embed]


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 17:48:13 [Preview] No.27142 del
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>>27132
>rofl'd those are gypsies your indo nigga brothaz.

Nope, pure t*rds shat out in the same litter as you.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 18:26:15 [Preview] No.27143 del
>>27138
He is trully expressive about his mental diarrhea.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 18:52:22 [Preview] No.27144 del
>>27143
Yes. He really is. We (the humanity) can just hope he will change for the better with time and will evolve into an actual human being and leave behind this spiteful wretched creature he is now.


Bernd 06/11/2019 (Tue) 18:59:19 [Preview] No.27145 del
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>>27143
>He is trully expressive


Bernd 06/12/2019 (Wed) 10:25:01 [Preview] No.27152 del
>>27133
there is a Turkish proverb: Give a lordship to a kurd, first thing he'll do to kill his father. This is the case for romani here.


Bernd 06/12/2019 (Wed) 10:31:22 [Preview] No.27153 del
>>27152
But your father is a kurd, Pajeet.


Bernd 06/12/2019 (Wed) 14:15:58 [Preview] No.27156 del
>>27138
>I was in Transylvania decades ago as a kid and there weren't any problems.

Try telling telling them that Romanians migrated from the Balkans, were not the majority in Transylvania in the middle ages, or that the Romanian language was invented in the 19th century and all your other nonsense myths and misinformation, and see how that goes for you.


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 10:16:17 [Preview] No.27177 del
>>27156
>tell average guy on the street about some kc tier history
>they beat the shit out of you
Happens all the time I guess.


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 12:39:04 [Preview] No.27178 del
>>27177
it happens on /kc/|/int too
try telling some american about fake moonlanding


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 13:41:25 [Preview] No.27181 del
>>27178
Try to deny so called armenian genocide. We can't discuss history anymore.

Because entire internet has taken over by romanians


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 14:13:40 [Preview] No.27182 del
>>27177
If by "KC tier history" you mean irredentist bullshit based on lies, sure.


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 14:15:32 [Preview] No.27183 del
>>27181
>t*rd denying the Armenian genocide

Classic!


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 14:37:34 [Preview] No.27184 del
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>>27182
t. gypsy


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 16:49:17 [Preview] No.27197 del
>>27184
What'd you say Achmed? Can't hear you over the noise of your prayer calls.


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 22:10:56 [Preview] No.27207 del
>>27184
>Romanias main industry is fortune telling
In South America that's about the only thing gypsies are known for. Outside the realm of those petty superstitions nobody even remembers they exist.

>>27197
If you're such a nationalist why do you live as an immigrant in a wealthier country?


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 23:57:09 [Preview] No.27211 del


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 23:58:27 [Preview] No.27212 del
>>27207
Shut up monkey


Bernd 06/13/2019 (Thu) 23:59:59 [Preview] No.27213 del
kek


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 05:50:12 [Preview] No.27216 del
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>>27177
>>27178
>>27181
Unlike the moonlanding which did really happen or didn't this Romanian continuity stands on very very weak legs, if it stands at all.
The Dacians/Daco-romans disappeared about the late 3rd century from the pages of history and the Vlahs first mention is from the late 12th in Transylvania on the Balkans it's earlier. That's about 900 years they can't account for. Ofc Romanian archaeologists (some) try and provide evidence, but it's really the typical case of creating proofs for presuppositions and not drawing conclusions from available data.

I already wrote something similar when we were still on 8/kc
So in Transylvania first there were the Scythians.
Then came the Celts and they become Scytho-Celts.
Then came Getians and they become Scytho-Celto-Getians.
Then came the Dacians and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Dacians.
Then came the Romans and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romans.
Then came the Goths and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Goths.
Then came the Vandals and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandals.
Then came the Sarmatians and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmatians.
Then came the Huns and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Huns.
Then came the Gepids and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepids.
Then came the Langobards and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobards.
Then came the Avars and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobardo-Avars.
Then came the Bulgars and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobardo-Avaro-
Bulgars.
Then came the Hungarians and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobardo-Avaro-Bulgaro-Hungarians.
Then came the Székelys and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobardo-Avaro-Bulgaro-Hungaro-Székelys.
Then came the Saxons and they become Scytho-Celto-Geto-Daco-Romano-Gotho-Vandalo-Sarmato-Hunno-Gepido-Langobardo-Avaro-Bulgaro-Hungaro-Székelyo-Saxons.
Then the first groups of Vlah herders started to trickle in and now they claim they are pure blooded Daco-Romans.

>>27207
>If you're such a nationalist why do you live as an immigrant in a wealthier country?
He patriotically support his homeland by sending back all that money he makes with fortune telling no doubt providing a good chunk of it's annual $30 income.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 05:55:34 [Preview] No.27219 del
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>>27211
>>27212
>>27213
Romania man, c'mon
Be nice. Nobody's doing anything to you here.

It's ok if you're proud of your country and want to defend it, but please don't resort to name calling and being rude to everybody.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:06:06 [Preview] No.27225 del
>>27216

More lies, ignorance and misinformation. First of all Romanians are mentioned in works from the 6th century (The Miracles of St. Demetrius).

From The Miracles of Saint Demetrius, Book II, V: (written ca. 680 AD)

As you know, lovers of Christ, we have related in part, in what has proceeded, about the Sklavenes, the one called Chatzon, and also the Avars; that having ravaged virtually all Illyricum and its provinces, I mean the two Pannonias, [b]the two Dacias[/b], Dardania, Mysia, Praevalin, Rhodope, and also Thrace and the regions along the walls of Byzantium, and having taken the rest of the cities and towns, they lead the people to a place near the Danube in the direction of Pannonia whose metropolis had been formerly the aforementioned Sirmium. [b]It was there, as it is said, that the aforementioned Chagan settled all the people he had captured to be henceforth his subjects. There they intermarried with Bulgars, Avars, and other peoples, had children with them, [i]children whom they brought up according to the traditions of the Romans[/i][/b], and so through orthodoxy and the holy and life-giving baptism the race of the Christians increased and became numerous as had that of the Hebrews in Egypt under the Pharaoh. And as each related to the other concerning the residence of their ancestors, they fired in each other’s heart to desire to return.

https://www.jassa.org/?p=11361

>The Miracles are particularly valuable as a historical source. (Wikipedia)

So, gypsy, mind explaining to me how [b]Romans[/b] were captured from [b]the TWO Dacias[/b] in the 600s, and then continued their traditions and way of life to the extent that they wanted to return their homelands? I await your response.

Second, Romanians were also mentioned in chronicles pertaining to events in the 9th century, namely the Russian Primary Chronicle. Pic related. These works were based on earlier works that are now lost. I'm also going to mention your own Anonymus because it makes you so buttmand.

Chroniclers of the time were largely interested in political factions and events, not irrelevant smallfolk. They talk about the dominant elites (Petchenegs, Avars, Cumans, Bulgars, Franks, etc.), not the ruled classes. They are of no importance to them since they aren't the game-changers.

Finns weren't mentioned at all until the Swedes started colonizing them, that means Finns must not have existed. Great argument.

There's a lot of archaeological evidence to go by, old Roman sites being fortified or moved, which you conveniently ignore. We know when the slavs came in the Carpathian basin because they did not even have the potter's wheel or metal knives.

There are no works documenting any kind of migration you speak of. There are plenty of medieval writers that however attest that Romanians are the old inhabitants of Dacia (I posted some earlier >>27128, you ignored). Not only do linguistic studies prove you wrong (Romanian and Balkan languages aren't related (except for Istro and Aromanian)) but modern Genetic studies do as well - Romanians have more affinity with Bulgarians (Thracians) than they do with Serbs, Albanians, etc. where you would supposedly place them.

Explain also the origin of place names referring to Vlachs (Vlașca, Codrul Vlăsiei) in Romania if they weren't there. Explain the survival of ancient river names.

It's hilarious to me the hypocrisy of a migratory minority people trying to turn things around and make the others the migrants.

The theory of Daco-Roman continuity is the academically accepted consensus and the politically invented Roeslerian migrationist theory had already been BTFO in the 19th century, no matter how much you seethe about it.

Also, you haven't answered me earlier: how do Hungarian extremists explain how what are according them a bunch of shepherds that wandered from the Balkan mountains became the most numerous people in Transylvania despite being excluded from the Unio Trio Nationum, being religiously persecuted and impoverished (having their lands confiscated)?


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:08:27 [Preview] No.27226 del
>>27219
>monkey calls me gypsy and shitposts
>I call him what he is
>y u being rude tho?


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:15:40 [Preview] No.27227 del
>>27216
>So in Transylvania first there were the Scythians.

Already wrong from the very beginning. Wow.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:40:19 [Preview] No.27228 del
>>27197
>that chav holding the camera
lel'd


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:41:23 [Preview] No.27229 del
>>27227
very good argument.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:49:46 [Preview] No.27230 del
>>27216
>asks why there is a lack of historical records in the Dark Ages

They're called the dark ages for a reason, dumbass.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 10:57:17 [Preview] No.27231 del
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Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 14:09:35 [Preview] No.27234 del
According to Hungarians, Transylvania was COMPLETELY uninhabited when they arrived, the only population void in Europe. Mind you, it took them 200 years to conquer it, uninhabited as it was. :)


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 14:42:01 [Preview] No.27235 del
inb4 Bogdan starts to pretend that he is two persons and write conversations between the two.
He is well known of his habit of using proxies.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 15:09:16 [Preview] No.27238 del
>>27234
Samefag


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 20:37:21 [Preview] No.27248 del
>>27235
Bogdan is an ugly gypsy girl she might act retarded and tsundere but she wants qt hungarian bf.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 21:14:27 [Preview] No.27249 del
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>>27248
can you stop with your racism please?
we alredy lost some posters due to rudeness


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 21:37:59 [Preview] No.27251 del
>>27249
>>27249
>we alredy lost some posters due to rudeness
why do you think we are rude towards him while not others? bogdan is notorious shitposter from kohl. he even once enthreatened to kill an irish guy.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:08:44 [Preview] No.27252 del
>>27251
That ain't me you subhuman turd. And you got triggered that I had more sex than your monobrow ass on Tinder. Kys


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:09:36 [Preview] No.27253 del
>>27252
So you admit you're proxyfagging?


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:11:03 [Preview] No.27254 del
>>27253
Not my fault the board thinks I'm pshek, butthurt t*rd.


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:12:03 [Preview] No.27256 del
>>27253
Fuck a goat


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:12:48 [Preview] No.27257 del
>>27254
>>27254
I'm fairly sure that's you. if other romanians are like you, it doesnt work for you either


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:13:31 [Preview] No.27258 del
>>27257
I'm fairly sure you're a mudshit virgin. Fuck a goat


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:14:38 [Preview] No.27259 del
>>27256
well if this is what you consider losing your virginity...


Bernd 06/14/2019 (Fri) 22:44:57 [Preview] No.27260 del
>>27259
I didn't say you would. But it might ease your durkshit butthurt


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 09:19:35 [Preview] No.27264 del
>>27260
>>27260
yeah after all of the schizopost of yours others are butthurt not your 47 chromosomed ass.


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 09:31:59 [Preview] No.27265 del
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Thread Motto:
"Don't get into arguments with retards because they drag you down to their level and beat you with their routine."
This is especially true to Bogdan. It is no use trying to argue with him, he is obsessed with this topic and can go on and bullshit ad infinitum with sources and arguments that doesn't support anything he says, but eats up Bernd's precious time if he take him seriously and make the effort to parry them.
Just look at what he posted. If he would have actually read that paragraph what he quoted he would know it's about Illyricum and it's administrative area. He also doesn't know that the "two Dacia" is the two Dacias south of the Danube (Mediterranea and Ripensis), approximately on the border of today Serbia and Bulgaria. Also Bogdan has no idea what "evaluating historical sources" mean and he imagines everything what's written has to be understood literally. He doesn't know what anachronism means (the author uses outdated terms to make references to regions which can be understood easily for those who had similar education as him). Bogdan doesn't aware that "Roman" for the author of the text means "Byzantine", and he thinks orthodoxy means the same both today and pre-schism times. I bet he even thinks when the Romans appeared in Dacia (in this case Transylvania) they suddenly created prim and proper "Equestrius Thievescu, the genius of Carpathians, the follower of The One True Fate, Orthodoxy" out of every Dacian.

While we at Orthodoxy, I want to raise awareness to this post: >>27026 and the link there where Bernd can find many interesting photos.

So. As you see it would be a mistake to fight this particular windmill, everything he posts can be tackled but doesn't worth the effort. On the other hand he needs this conflict, because he craves attention and his only way to get it.
So all in all I would advise Bernd to just ignore him. I know sometimes these things like this can whirl the still water and bring a little excitement, but the novelty fades fast. I encourage everyone to go back to the usual civilized discussion, OC creation and general pleasantness and assburgering.


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 11:05:45 [Preview] No.27269 del
>>27265
did you know turkish word dalga(sea wave) most likely derived from the word dalai (ocean/infinity) ?

thread derailing


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 12:40:08 [Preview] No.27270 del
>>27269
I haven't even know that dalai is a Mongol word.


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 14:36:16 [Preview] No.27271 del
>>27265
Your gypsy tricks won't work here, turkshit. You didn't even address a fraction of what I posted. But it's ok, you got BTFO 100 years ago, there's no need for me to tear your ass open again.


Bernd 06/15/2019 (Sat) 14:47:20 [Preview] No.27272 del
>>27271
>you got BTFO 100 years ago

And I'm referring to your nonsense immigration theory, not just the war of 1919, although you got BTFO in both. Suck it, gypsy.


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Bernd 06/16/2019 (Sun) 16:48:30 [Preview] No.27293 del
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>>27265
I wouldnt suprised though, many peole obsessed with romans yet they don't know how the word is used in the past. Fictional ties with romans or ancient greeks are common way to justify your actions and boost your repuation amongst western countries.

Here is a fresh OC to sum up this thread.


Bernd 06/16/2019 (Sun) 17:13:39 [Preview] No.27294 del
>>27293
>t*rd
>white

>fictional

Explain the Latin language you iq12 simian turd.


Bernd 06/16/2019 (Sun) 18:24:12 [Preview] No.27297 del
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>>27293
>That pic
I'm glad I decided to wear my favorite hat that day


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 11:01:53 [Preview] No.27324 del
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Why Romanians are so butthurt?


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 11:16:18 [Preview] No.27326 del
>>27325
>4chan
>with those post numbers
>>27293
Hungary should have been the Asian tbh


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 13:33:05 [Preview] No.27327 del
>>27326
Well it's the Dutch want to have fun with the romanian.


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 15:25:56 [Preview] No.27330 del
I'm removing romanian autist for ban evading. Feel free to report him when you see him. If he can politely wait for his ban to expire I'll let him back.


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 16:11:04 [Preview] No.27331 del
>>27326
Protip: Bogdan is a 4chan /pol/tard
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/202302200/#202310070
It's worthy to follow replies.

>>27327
>have fun with the romanian
That's a little exaggeration. He hoped Bogdan is capable of civilized discussion and asked him in a friendly tone. I would have too but at this point I know better.
Also I thought it's a hint to my geriatric age.

>>27330
What you think is best.
I don't mind him shitposting in his threads (he has like three) but imho we shouldn't tolerate him spamming the board.


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 17:29:40 [Preview] No.27335 del
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>>27331
>>27331
>That's a little exaggeration.
you took this too seriously.


Bernd 06/17/2019 (Mon) 18:18:47 [Preview] No.27337 del
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Bernd 06/21/2019 (Fri) 07:02:59 [Preview] No.27466 del
>>27331
Nice slide attempt you fucking gypsy. Too bad everyone can see here you got BTFO from >>27078 on your retardation.



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