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Dr. Drew @drdrew - Um ….Over 1,000 colleges and universities required vaccination for students, employees, or both to return to campus in fall 2021–spring 2022 (including many large public institutions). This was common during Omicron. K-12 was rarer—only a few states Also many large employers implemented mandates during Omicron,
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Prof Jeffrey S Morris @jsm2334
You are comparing apples and oranges here, by mentioning lower risk post-Omicron but comparing to post-vaccine risks of the initial doses given pre-Omicron and mentioning mandates that were not really in effect post-Omicron at all.
Any fair and careful benefit/risk must split into 2021 during initial rollout, and 2022+ post-Omicron when we are talking primarily about boosters.
Children were given their 1st two doses of mRNA or the doses of viral vectors in 2021 pre-Omicron -- which is both when the risks of COVID-19 were higher and when the myocarditis and VITT were mostly observed. So you'd have to acknowledge the risk of COVID-19 in 2021 to fairly evaluate the vaccine rollouts in 2021, right?
And post-Omicron, doses of vaccines would mostly be boosters (and typically given mostly to higher risk kids, and I don't think these were mandated ANYWHERE). And note that the viral vectors were generally not given anymore, so the VITT is not relevant to that time period, and the risk of myocarditis much lower after mRNA boosters than primary doses, especially after the effective dose was reduced for teens. Surely, you account for all of this when comparing to the COVID-19 risks in this age group during Omicron. And do you really stand by your comments that the risks of mRNA vaccine boosters (for those who voluntarily received them, since they really were not mandated after Omicron) outweigh the risks of Omicron infections for this group?
https://x.com/drdrew/status/2039422366686851569

Eagle Ed Martin @EagleEdMartin - Spy Wednesday
Then one of the Twelve—the one called Judas Iscariot—went to the chief priests and asked, “What are you willing to give me if I deliver him over to you?”
So they counted out for him thirty pieces of silver.
From then on Judas watched for an opportunity to hand him over.
Matthew 26:14-16
https://x.com/EagleEdMartin/status/2039293945226600839