>>192828, >>192829, >>192830, >>192831, >>192832, >>192833, >>192834, >>192835, >>192834, >>192837, >>192838, >>192839, >>192840, >>192841, >>192842, >>192843, >>192844, >>192845, >>192846, >>192847, >>192848, >>192849, >>192850, >>192851, >>192852, >>192853, >>192854, >>192855, >>192856, >>192857, >>192858, >>192859, >>192860, >>192861, >>192862, >>192863, >>192864, >>192865, >>192866, >>192867, >>192868, >>192869, >>192870, >>192871, >>192872, >>192873, >>192874, >>192875, >>192876 Shipwreckedcrew @shipwreckedcrew - Re what we've seen of the Clancy jurors: VERY early in my trial career, prosecutors with dozens of trial under their belts gave me some very basic tips on picking a jury. This is very critical in federal court because most federal judges don't give attorneys much time in juror "voir dire." So there were some rules of thumb you tried to live by when evaluating the panel and your options as a prosecutor. 1. No teachers. They spend their days telling children and adolescents what to do, and they after often contrarian in order to show adults how smart they are. They hang up juries more than any other "type." 2. No healthcare workers who are not MDs. Healthcare workers with the most contact with patients are empathetic by nature -- that's why they entered the field -- and are trained to take all info they are given by patients seriously. Putting it in a very crass fashion, a prosecutor does not want 12 jurors -- you want 3 jurors and 9 sheep. If you convince the 3 jurors they will bring the sheep along in the end. For a foreperson I was always looking for a blue collar manager -- usually a man. The arch type was someone who could give instruction in a non-condescending manner that didn't seem like overt manipulation. I didn't like hard science professionals either -- like engineers -- they tend to be too linear in their thinking and resist being convinced by inferential evidence. The Clancy jurors we have heard from violated my rules. It's hard to be too critical of the prosecutors, however, without knowing who they used their challenges to keep off. For all we know they were worse. https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/2097926125469266322