>>53440
Suzanne says this too. All well and good when it's just part of a philosophical rant on the internet, but you need to abide by society's basic moral guidelines in order to take part in it at all. Well, unless you don't mind ending up in solitary confinement or death row before you're even an adult, which is valid I guess, if more than a little tragic, mostly for the victims. God knows I've held back many times when I couldn't tolerate certain people's behavior anymore. Sometimes I couldn't tolerate anyone I knew. But I do believe in not killing, torturing, raping or cannibalizing, circumstances and possible apparent justifications aside. While I often disagree with lizbro's practical and worldly worldview I do think that even if a mind is capable of all sorts of seemingly clever observations and theorizing, it needs to come back down and "touch grass" at some point. It's just a mind after all and you're probably much more versed in epistemology than I am so you know what that means

>And any answer that does not include some brutal actions will cause more suffering and more brutality than a truthful answer.
I don't know how specific or general you're being with this statement, but I don't fully agree with it. For the most part I think you're right, it's just that it sounds like typical "tough love" or "man up" type of logic, which has never worked for me personally, as lizbro here can attest. Therapy helped me (if not necessarily because of the actual work the therapist thought he was doing), being thrown into some meat grinder job or the army when I hit 18 definitely wouldn't have. I'm pretty sure that would've ended badly both for society/humanity and for myself. So while I think what you said does apply in most cases, I'd add a disclaimer that it's not always the case. I think brutality can just make things worse sometimes

>>53441
yeah we gave niggers guns instead of killing them all

>>53443
you're so ungrateful, just jumping boat like this. I MADE YOU

>>53446
car electricians are rare for a reason