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/meta/ New Board /rel/ Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 19:18 [Preview] No. 15 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
General discussion about the board itself

What do you think about this new board?
What can be done to launch this board for real?


Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 19:31 [Preview] No.16 del
I like the setup of this new board, and its rules, look promising (if they'll get enforced regularly)

Limitately within endchan this board may not manage to get enough active posters to self-sustain.
There needs to be more notices about this board from other sites, to give it more visibility.

Coming from 4chan, that place is the opposite of endchan in terms of activity.

4chan has a lot of activity, but also an huge amount of spam, and also malicious diversions from hidden groups.
Where many decent threads are buries within minutes, without getting a chance to develop. For the same reason, the replies themselves are most of the times only oneliners, basically twitter level shallow drivel, aiming for an emotional grab out of extreme outrages, because without outrage, nothing really manages to survive on that board.
It's a setup which doesn't lead to good debates, nor good discussion and insight. Lots of activity, but 99% of it is worthless.

endchan seems to be the extreme opposite, too little activity, almost abandoned.
There being very few people, it's normal for only few boards to manage to build up a decent number of active posters to keep things rolling. Every person has only a limited amount of time to spend online, one person can't follow too many interests, that's just a limitation of time which can't be changed.


Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 22:18 [Preview] No.17 del
Thanks for the heads-up, the thread has been pinned. So far, the only effective way to gather anons for this board is shilling the link on halfchan, sadly all the other altchans are pretty much dead like endchan.


Anonymous 09/20/2022 (Tue) 00:09 [Preview] No.18 del
For references to less known chans:
https://allchans.org/

The other chans are sure one of the possibilities as to where to find people interested in this board, but other chans are not the best places among all existing options, I think.
The best places where to find potential new people interested in this board, are the bigger social medias, where there is censorship, ostracism, misdirection, bullying, or general hostility anytime one talks freely about their faith.
Since here on endchan they can find the freedom of expression they are denied elsewhere.
Endchan boards are harder to censor (but really all chan boards are less censorship prone), and so long the rules of the board are upheld, all the hostility and usual attacks, can be contained. (differently to how in most social medias, the hostility and attacks not only are not penalized or reprimanded, but they are almost encouraged)

Though, trying to give visibility to a chan board on mainstream social medias, will almost surely lead to bans, and quick censorship.
So one should be prepared beforehand with trashable accounts, and just rely on that short timeframe of visibility, before the notice is removed or hidden. Even in high traffic pages, it still takes some minutes for moderation to move in to remove submissions.
Obviously public pages are better than private ones, that excludes places like discord or similar closed community sites.

Giving visibility on mainstream sites is sure more high effort, as those systems are designed to don't allow much visibility to normal users, but it may also make a bigger difference.

Just dropping ideas for anyone interested or willing.


Anonymous 09/20/2022 (Tue) 00:27 [Preview] No.19 del
An other thing to consider, is the persistence of links, or lifetime of links.

Links (in posts) on most social medias are very shortlived, because they get buried fast, and even more shortlived if the post is on the border or outside the rules since it gets removed.
So the people seeing, and maybe going through the link, are limited to the ones who see the post shotly after it is created, since little after, that post is nowhere to be seen.

While any link which remains always visible (most of the times not inside a post, but in the headers or menus of sites, in the places which can't be buried), may get less people through it at the same time, but it stays effective for much longer, and on the long run it may bring in more people than a short wave from a shortlived post on a popular place.
Though, slow flows of newcomers from stable links are usually not enough to build activity, so it's better to don't rely on a single stable and visible link, but more of them together, even if from different places.


An other obvious thing, is that visibility is important to get new people to visit and have a look in, but visibility is only half of what brings new actives.
The other half is content, what the visitors see, and what interests them enough to remain and add something.

About content, in my experience, it brings more discussion to state something rather than asking something.
It doesn't matter if the statement is perfectly correct in everything and flawless, any mistake or overlook is a chance for a correction, which the correction itself is also part of discussion, though not all of it, it becomes just aimless to only have corrections, but eventually the discussion can also develop past the mistakes.



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Welcome to /rel/ Anonymous 09/12/2022 (Mon) 20:58 [Preview] No. 2 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
This board is dedicated to the discussion of religious traditions from all over the world, this includes their respective theologies, philosophical schools and denominations. The board is open to all believers, and the creation of Generals is encouraged. Please consider reading the rules before posting.

Rule #1: don't spam/flood.
Rule #2: do not post NSFW content.
Rule #3: Keep the discussions civilized and show respect for the other faiths, proselytizing or forcing your beliefs on somebody is forbidden.
Rule #4: Any and all forms of atheism and agnosticism are banned from this board. Atheists and agnostics do not constitute a religion, and are invited to leave.
Rule #5: If possible, cite the sources of your statements in your posts.
Rule #6: All non-religious content such as "spiritual, not religious lifestyle" threads, conspiracy theories, and various other /x/-tier shitposts belong on the supernatural board. Your self-created vampirism LARP does not constitute a religion.



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Sacred Music Thread Anonymous 09/22/2022 (Thu) 17:11 [Preview] No. 37 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
For sharing and appreciating music, chants, and songs, dedicated to the divine.
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Anonymous 09/24/2022 (Sat) 15:18 [Preview] No.62 del
Irish Hymns
Ag Criost An Siol, A Iosa Glan Mo Chroise, An Taiseiri
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2alb9lOi-xc [Embed]
Playlist with some Irish Hymns
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JEltivhEd5k [Embed]


Anonymous 09/24/2022 (Sat) 15:19 [Preview] No.63 del
>>62
The list id (which was truncated before)
&list=PL4852A7E4A761CB26


Anonymous 09/25/2022 (Sun) 20:22 [Preview] No.71 del
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Latin:
Anima Christi, sanctifica me.
Corpus Christi, salva me.
Sanguis Christi, inebria me.
Aqua lateris Christi, lava me.
Passio Christi, conforta me.
O bone Jesu, exaudi me.
Intra vulnera tua absconde me.
Ne permittas me separari a Te.
Ab hoste maligno defende me.
In hora mortis meae voca me,
Et jube me venire ad Te,
Ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem Te
In saecula saeculorum.
Amen.
English:

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Anonymous 11/01/2022 (Tue) 23:22 [Preview] No.79 del
Glória in excélsis Deo
(Glória = glory, in excélsis = in the most high, Deo = God )
https://youtube.com/watch?v=strUQQGtbhc [Embed]

This version is mixed with parts in latin and italian.

---Latin

Glória in excélsis Deo
et in terra pax homínibus bonae voluntátis.
Laudámus te,
benedícimus te,
adorámus te,
glorificámus te,
grátias ágimus tibi propter magnam glóriam tuam,
Dómine Deus, Rex caeléstis,
Deus Pater omnípotens.

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Anonymous 11/23/2022 (Wed) 18:34 [Preview] No.81 del
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Tu Scendi Dalle Stelle (You Descend from the Stars)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fd2SKxUs2gM [Embed]

You Descend from the Stars, O King of Heaven,
And come to a cave, in the cold and frost,
And come to a cave, in the cold and frost.
O my divine Child,
I see thee here trembling;
O blessed God!
O how much did it cost thee, to have loved me!
O how much did it cost thee, to have loved me!

To thee, who art of the world, the Creator,
lack cloths and fire, O my Lord,
lack cloths and fire, O my Lord.
Dear chosen, little child,
How much this poverty

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Decentralization Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 17:10 [Preview] No. 11 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Want to map as many christian boards as possible, for directions but also just out of curiosity and historical record.

>>>/christianity/
/christianity/ - Christianity
Focus: 8chan backup (downtime in 2019)
https://endchan.org/christianity/catalog.html

>>>/christian/
/christian/ - Christian Brotherhood
Focus: Trinitarian Christians
https://endchan.org/christian/catalog.html

>>>/christ/
/christ/ - Protestant Christianity
https://endchan.org/christ/catalog.html


Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 17:40 [Preview] No.12 del
Where are the Judaism and Islam boards?


Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 18:46 [Preview] No.13 del
Look for them, and you'll find them.


Anonymous 09/21/2022 (Wed) 15:23 [Preview] No.35 del
Found more:
Christian board
https://frenschan.org/c/catalog.html
Religion board (similar to this board here, no specific religion focus)
https://frenschan.org/r/catalog.html


Anonymous 11/08/2022 (Tue) 12:16 [Preview] No.80 del
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>>35
Frenschan is bad, it glows very hard, and it's controlled, normal and mentally sane people get banned for no reason there, but obvious glownigger tactics are not removed.
Scrap that from the recommended boards.



Esoterism Kn 09/30/2022 (Fri) 02:45 [Preview] No. 78 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Meme about types of esoterist



Esoterism Anonymous 09/30/2022 (Fri) 02:42 [Preview] No. 77 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Meme about some esoterist and haters of this



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Anonymous 09/19/2022 (Mon) 16:38 [Preview] No. 10 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Memes Thread
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Sacred Art Thread Anonymous 09/23/2022 (Fri) 22:27 [Preview] No. 53 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Sacred art can come in various forms, but here art is meant as mostly visual art.
To differentiate from the sacred music thread (since music is also a form of art)
So, paintings, statues, mosaics, objects, depicting a religious subject or scene, according to the principles or spiritual understanding of a religion.


Anonymous 09/23/2022 (Fri) 22:43 [Preview] No.54 del
c.1118 AD. Jean II Comnene, Mary and Jesus, Piroska of Hungary. Hagia Sophia, Istanbul.

1509-1510 AD. Disputation of the Holy Sacrament. by Raffaello Sanzio de Urbino, Rome.


Anonymous 09/24/2022 (Sat) 11:09 [Preview] No.60 del
Some images of Saint Columba of Iona, in gaelic: Colum Cille ("Dove of the church"), lived in 521-597 between Ireland and Scotland


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Religious Architecture Anonymous 09/21/2022 (Wed) 13:20 [Preview] No. 33 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Discussion and sharing of the architecture of religious places of worship.
Interiors and Exteriors.
2 posts and 6 images omitted.


Anonymous 09/23/2022 (Fri) 00:20 [Preview] No.44 del
church + reliquary of sainte foy. she was martyred when she was 12. look how pretty it is. they have a procession i think every year where they give her flowers and other offerings. her skull is housed in the golden statue. sometimes she cures the blind. this is in france btw.


Anonymous 09/23/2022 (Fri) 13:29 [Preview] No.46 del
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>>44
That's one old church. It shold be about 1000 years old now, since it was built in the 11th century.
>The Abbey Church of Sainte-Foy in Conques, France, was a popular stop for pilgrims traveling the Way of St. James to Santiago de Compostela, in what is now Spain. The main draw for medieval pilgrims at Conques were the remains of Sainte-Foy, a young woman martyred during the fourth century.
The carvings above the church doors are also interesting.

About Sainte-Foy:
>Saint Faith or Saint Faith of Conques (Latin: Sancta Fides; French: Sainte-Foy; Spanish: Santa Fe) is a saint who is said to have been a girl or young woman of Agen in Aquitaine. Her legend recounts how she was arrested during persecution of Christians by the Roman Empire and refused to make pagan sacrifices even under torture. Saint Faith was tortured to death with a red-hot brazier. Her death is sometimes said to have occurred in the year 287 or 290, sometimes in the large-scale persecution under Diocletian beginning in 303. She is listed as Sainte Foy, "Virgin and Martyr", in the martyrologies.


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This one is in Norway.
Built in 1898. Style: Gothic revival.
Used by: Church of Norway
Protestant denomination: Evangelical Lutheran


Anonymous 09/26/2022 (Mon) 19:13 [Preview] No.73 del
From Brazil



Bringing back the ancestral religions of europe Anonymous 09/25/2022 (Sun) 15:34 [Preview] No. 67 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
How do we save the ancestral religions of Europe from SJWs and vargtards? It seems like the majority of people who follow these religions emphasize their politically correctness or ethnic supremacy fetish more than the intrinsic spiritual value of the religions.


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>>67
I'm christian here, so from my point of view, this is complicated.

On one side, as a christian, i've really no interest in helping what i view as a pagan cult. Which to be more clear, a cult which worships idols, where idols are understood to be simulacra of fake imagery, dead images and objects, with no soul, but which people confuse themselves into believing them to be alive. Which in a bigger picture of truth and falsity, idols, or simulacra, are objects surrounded by falsity, or objects of falsity itself. Where, to get even more into details, in christianity, the demon known as satan, the most high example of evil and depravity, also holds an other title, which is "the father of lies", so in a way, idolatry, or idol worshipping, is a byproduct of the falsity generated by satan. So really, i wouldn't want to help idolatry, as that would equate helping satan.

On the other side, as a christian, i've also no sympathy for the average pagan larper, which as you should be aware given your OP, most of them aren't really pagans, but most of the times they are anti-christians in disguise, or just jews with their anti-christian media agenda. They use paganism as a cover, without giving it any real respect. They use paganism only so long it helps their underlying goals, and will corrupt or discard it, once they can no longer make use of it.
Though, while no symphathy goes to the falsity in the persons, be them larpers or talmudic jews, the persons themselves are still mostly fictims of their own idiocy and hubris.

The fake pagans are fictims of their lack of virtue, to use a concept which should be general and mostly areligious.
And that's a level of discussion over which a christian could maybe take part in the dialogue here.

The current image or understanding of paganism is commodified, it's a commercial product, only useful to cash out of randoms. It's only natural, as consequence of the commodification, that any original value or virtue is lost, and replaced with commercial ""values"", which are not meant to make the persons better human beings, but those ""values"" are only meant to control and make persons better serfs, better consumers.
So one possible thing anyone would need to do to halt the corruption from any commodification, is to stop the mediatic flood which tries to rewrite history and cultures. (not an easy solution, how would that even be achieved? by bombing hollywood?)

Going to say it again,
Don't expect support or symphanty from christians in your pagan revival idea (That's my take as a christian)
But also, if the focus in on the cultural corruption from modern commodification or from modern political ideologies, which both the economy and the ideologies tend to steal images to weaponize them for their cause or self-interest. If the focus is on the corruption, or corruptive force behind it, that's something most christians should be against too.


Anonymous 09/26/2022 (Mon) 07:38 [Preview] No.72 del
>>70
>stop the mediatic flood
Yes, that's a great idea, but what needs to be brought back is priestly orders. You see SJWs and /pol/tards never prey on Hinduism and Buddhism because these are living traditions and real priests would call them out for corrupting the religions. Meanwhile, European polytheism is a free for all where everybody can improvise their way to worship without a spiritual guide. All the major figures in IE religions are academic reconstructionists, but there's a limit to the worship of ashes they propose.