>>19083
Vale has made characters before, there was Cloud, Clover, Crimson and he made Allie (Leda)

>>19085
I can't even blame Pat, Green or whoever picked them up. (Ok I still blame Green because fuck him.) But you're right, at the time the artists got involved with the characters and could've been made into something they ended up just Blacked pronstars with the last name Loud.