>>1531

Sometimes, a government need to use (deadly) force to maintain security, or it will collapse rapidly.
But the government's abuse of force is not OK, it is a psychopath path.
So, only governments should be using force if necessary, like enforcing correct/fair justice.

Keywords: Controversial action, moral ways.
Related: Using force if necessary >>1317

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---Attributes:
government: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/179/government
security: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/114/security
using force if necessary: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
Controversial action: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/193/actions
moral ways: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/171/methodology

>>1531

We gave ourselves authority, the highest level of authority. We do believe to have supreme authority, top level authority, God level of self-given authority as we creating our own divine system of justice.

*More names: RulerGod GodOfAll PowerGod BeyondGod SecureGod CreatorGod SystemGod FocusGod ImplementGod

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jJhDq10-0RQ [Embed]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1bNf5BDiFKs [Embed]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6rPPXfoGvyc [Embed]

---Attributes:
supreme authority: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/170/supremacy
top level: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/170/supremacy
divine: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/99/best
system: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/118/multi-system
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice

>>1531

Because there is freedom, a lot of humans (including kids) still need to face negative consequences (punishments) for negative actions in order to have an acceptable behaviour.
If the crime goes unpunished, a lot of people could be tempted to do it, and society falls into chaos.

Related: Temptation >>932, Using force if necessary >>1572

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---Attributes:
free: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/191/free
consequences: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/185/decision
actions: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/193/actions
behaviour: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/125/programming
chaos: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/201/unknown

>>1531

Is it possible to have a perfectly fair justice system?
Probably not, specially in corrupt hellish places like Earth.

Keyword: Perfection.

Related: Justice system >>671

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Anti-example: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1mXgog8sI [Embed]

---Attributes:
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
system: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/118/multi-system
hellish places: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/204/negative-beings
Perfection: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/98/absolutes

>>1531

Where is the limit between compassion and justice when someone does a bad thing? It depends on each situation, but as general rule, tolerance, compassion, reasoning is first (if possible) to restore harmony, then (forceful) justice applies as ultimate resource (if everything nice fails).

Keywords: Knowing the limits,decision making,handling failure.

Related: Using force if necessary >>1572

As an example, how tolerance makes nations vulnerable: https://www.ft.com/content/0ac9e1a9-2aad-47d9-83fb-4839e9b31b33

Posted in our main website: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/276/compassion-justice

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*More names: SecureGod ControlOfAll RulerGod PreparationGod BeyondGod PowerGod ImplementGod
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---Attributes:
compassion: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/132/forgiveness
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
tolerance: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/132/forgiveness
reasoning: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/104/mind
harmony: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/105/
nice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/130/peace
Knowing the limits: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/159/wisdom
decision making: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/185/decision
handling failure: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/123/stability

>>1531

From the point of view of a fair judge, we know that reach the correct final judgment is not easy: It's not easy to find the truth, it's not easy to find what it is the right punishment, it's just not easy with the time that they have to analyze all that it's needed to know, it's not easy to take into account all the existent laws...
Also, judges provide a service to society that is under pressure from criminals (negative beings), it's not easy to work properly in the human justice system. Some judges even succumb to corruption, they work in favor of the criminals.

Related: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PiEHF_I7IVs [Embed]

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---Attributes:
easy: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/147/effortless
truth: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/165/truth
negative beings: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/204/negative-beings
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
system: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/118/multi-system

>>1531

Some people believe that there is some kind of cosmic justice system called karma that regulates the fair fate of each individual.

Karma police: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1uYWYWPc9HU [Embed]

---Attributes:
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
system: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/118/multi-system

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>>1531

In some places of Earth the police/military is so corrupt that good citizens (good beings) fear them as they don't see them as nothing but corrupt forces that only enforce their corrupt government and accomplices.

Related: Perfect justice >>1812
Related: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/act30/3443/2020/en/
Somehow related: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NsK5EZVjYLI [Embed]

---Attributes:
good beings: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/138/good-beings
government: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/179/government

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>>1531

USA still exaggerates freedom. Freedom doesn't mean breaking the law (or above morality), justice still apply.
Consequences of freedom still are there.

"" Freedom wins "": https://youtube.com/watch?v=9AkhzP7e4PA [Embed]

---Attributes:
free: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/191/free
morality: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/131/morality
justice: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/135/justice
Consequences: https://godscommunity.boards.net/thread/185/decision

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