>>10342
More virtues opposite to freedom: duty and responsibility. (Throught of this when watching https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=-s8eWbZh1Qs "How I Accidentally Became a Neo-Reactionary".) Criticism of NRx here: https://inv.tux.pizza/watch?v=bwL-VQC-eS8 - feels like this could be applied to any newer/niche political "movement". And people can talk all they want about politics, not like it actually changes much IRL. However, you could increase your understanding of things, which is a change.

>>10344
>But in the games, no. There is never a clear moral choice, you just choose the route that looks like it will bother you the least, and swallow the pill that comes with it because the entire world has some aspect that will be a bitter pill to swallow.
Sounds like a good way of putting it. I perhaps didn't finish New Vegas because I didn't see a really compelling faction to side with. No obvious resolution to the problems that is better than the other ones. In some stories there is a simple metaphysical evil vs. good, so those are easy.

>BTW you don't have to "pick a side"
I knew about the independent route for ~years, didn't describe it in my posts. If you kill House then I guess New Vegas ends up being ran by robots.

About siding with The Legion: they brutally conquer rival tribes similar to what the Romans did. Positive: there is little crime in areas that they control. In one case they enslaved the women, killed the weak males, and enlisted the other males of a certain group. This sounds hyperbolic in the writing. What Romans did do: forcibly took women of another group as wives, you could say that that marriage is then like slavery. Don't think it makes sense to kill weak males (like a little boy), only makes sense to kill those who oppose you.

In that video about Fallout, hbomberguy basically said that The Legion is full of LARPers. That's dismissive. The current IRL world of 2024 is still so entrenched in Liberal Democracy. No matter whom you vote for it is still going to maintain or further the system. The Fallout New Vegas world knew no such attachment to the democracy and system Westerns are a part of. Before the 1600s or 1800s people lived for a hundreds/thousands of years in monarchy or monarchy-like systems. So who's backwards? Them for living like that? Or us for living as we do in our political systems?

Our current system has only existed for roughly 200 years: that which says that democracy is synonymous with freedom. Maybe democracy is more like soft communism. So in New Vegas you have a chance to make a contribution to the course of history: making it more likely to go down the monarchy-related route of the Roman Empire but this time with better technology. Technology is a true progress in history, and other political "progress", maybe is no progress at all.