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>men having lower standards and higher sex drives and thus being more desperate for whoever they can manage to get.
Yes, men can certainly be horny simps, but consider this:
Maybe men's standards aren't lower, they're just accurate\fair. Maybe it's women, who constantly aim for men better than themselves, who have the "wrong" standards.
Cause I'm pretty sure most men would be very very happy to have a woman on the same "level" as themselves. Women, not so much.
I recall one statistic that said that if women could have 80% of what they wanted in a partner, most would say that's not enough.
>But most "incels" would love to do the same thing if they had the opportunity.
Would they? There are definitely some who just want sex, but I imagine the majority just want a normal relationship, romance, all that stuff.

By the way, I appreciate you being able to have a calm rational discussion.