Bernd
08/30/2020 (Sun) 08:02:00
No.39588
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08/30/2020 (Sun) 08:02:00
No.39588
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>>39585
Those civilizations in Anatolia and in the Caucasus were part of the goods exchange of the Middle East, and relied heavily on the products of Mesopotamia and Egypt. Without those civs (whom aroused earlier than the Hattis and Hittites, and these two got everything from them, well Hattis, got every civilizational achievement from them, and Hittites got everything from the Hattis) they couldn't have exist.
I'm aware. Hattis had agglutinative language, and Hittites Indo-Euro, in fact the first Indo-Euro which left a trace. Urartu also had agglutinative language, there's a chance this one was founded by Sumer refugees fleeing from Semite mass murderers.
>default behaviour
What is a default behaviour? When they couldn't hunt they ate berries, they defaulted to a vegan diet.
>indo european hunter gatherers wiped out early european farmers
Are you sure? R1b is the highest in the Basques, it does seem that was the original haplogroup, and that is still the most prominent one in Western Europe. Just because in archaeological findings a new culture shows up it doesn't mean new people arrived. And when new languages show up, similarly, doesn't mean new people arrived.
>>39587
In that case I was referring to 13Gladius 2's comment. He wrote humans are carnivores.
>>39587
>they were pastoralists.
This is a very stark oversimplification. They had extensive agriculture, they even fed their animals with grains (preserved horse corpses like in Pazyrik are the testimony). They had gardens, they produced vegetables, fruits and wine. Herodotus even calls one of the Scythian group "Scythian cultivators", and he says about other steppe people (resembling to Scythians, but not Scythians) that they sow grains, onions, garlic, lentils, and millet. Again from Herodotus, in one of their myth of origin, a god sends them golden artifacts, among them a plough and a yoke!
They had available space for breeding large herds of animals (not just horses, but cattle, ox, goats, sheep, pigs(!), poultry) and they used that resource. But they were far from mere pastorals this was just a type of job in their society, and those who did this, exchanged their products with those who didn't.
Those civilizations in Anatolia and in the Caucasus were part of the goods exchange of the Middle East, and relied heavily on the products of Mesopotamia and Egypt. Without those civs (whom aroused earlier than the Hattis and Hittites, and these two got everything from them, well Hattis, got every civilizational achievement from them, and Hittites got everything from the Hattis) they couldn't have exist.
I'm aware. Hattis had agglutinative language, and Hittites Indo-Euro, in fact the first Indo-Euro which left a trace. Urartu also had agglutinative language, there's a chance this one was founded by Sumer refugees fleeing from Semite mass murderers.
>default behaviour
What is a default behaviour? When they couldn't hunt they ate berries, they defaulted to a vegan diet.
>indo european hunter gatherers wiped out early european farmers
Are you sure? R1b is the highest in the Basques, it does seem that was the original haplogroup, and that is still the most prominent one in Western Europe. Just because in archaeological findings a new culture shows up it doesn't mean new people arrived. And when new languages show up, similarly, doesn't mean new people arrived.
>>39587
In that case I was referring to 13Gladius 2's comment. He wrote humans are carnivores.
>>39587
>they were pastoralists.
This is a very stark oversimplification. They had extensive agriculture, they even fed their animals with grains (preserved horse corpses like in Pazyrik are the testimony). They had gardens, they produced vegetables, fruits and wine. Herodotus even calls one of the Scythian group "Scythian cultivators", and he says about other steppe people (resembling to Scythians, but not Scythians) that they sow grains, onions, garlic, lentils, and millet. Again from Herodotus, in one of their myth of origin, a god sends them golden artifacts, among them a plough and a yoke!
They had available space for breeding large herds of animals (not just horses, but cattle, ox, goats, sheep, pigs(!), poultry) and they used that resource. But they were far from mere pastorals this was just a type of job in their society, and those who did this, exchanged their products with those who didn't.