Bernd 10/17/2024 (Thu) 12:32 No.52502 del
Zelensky's "Victory Plan"
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-presents-his-victory-plan-to-ukraine-parliament-war-vladimir-putin/
1. Invitation to NATO - not membership just invitation.
2. Moar weapons without restrictions of use.
3. Non-nuclear strategic deterrence (the fuck is this)
>exact weapons were not revealed by Zelenskyy
4. Ukraine offers her strategic resources (such as lithium, gas, titanium, energy, I assume grain as well)
5. Ukraine's place in Europe after the war.

I have comments for #1 and #3.
#1 Way, way before I noted this could have been avoided if they took Ukraine into NATO. Ukraine had two "westward turn", in 2004 and 2014. Nothing happened. The 2014 one brought the civil war, which was still an internal conflict for Ukraine, and that issue with Crimea - which could have been ended by saying goodby to the peninsula. NATO membership needs no external conflict. And apparently NATO can act very quick if it wants. Wants such countries as Sweden and Finland. But not Ukraine.
#3 As an ex Soviet country, Ukraine inherited large number of nuclear weapons. That was nuclear deterrence. That could have helped them. But Westerners made them to give up in return for security guarantees. Paper defence. Moral of the story: never give up your weapons.

Fun:
Daniel Ortega, el Prezidente of Nicaragua said Zelensky and Netanyahu are the sons of the devil and are literally Hitler.
https://www.laprensani.com/2024/10/14/politica/3390632-ortega-califica-a-netanyahu-de-hijo-del-demonio
From Politico we learn that Netanyahu is actually Jewish. Who would have thought. About Zelensky we know this already.

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