dog bless

The day, when tousands dead innocent people get justified

Haha, how come I missed this thread?

>>20266
same lol
also at least it's not anglo or swedish police

>>19364
Did he got a shot into his chest?
Back in the day I had psychology class and the prof talked about how getting the aggression out of one's system via violence is bullshit as bunch of stabbing case show many wounds instead of one and clearly the rage of the perp wasn't quenched by the first stab. I believe the prof was full of shit for two reasons:
1. immersing into violence works, only the angry person have to tire himself out with it
2. stabbing ain't work like in movies where one stab leads to instant death, irl one needs many stabs (if doesn't know where to stab but this needs cool heda) to kill someone or the vic's agony gets long or even survive the stabbing.

>>19365
Fukin retards seriously.

>>19366
There was some stat about how many times armed civilians stop crime to happen.

I also had some vids relevant I think. Will try to dig out them.

>>19364
The cops need better and more potent handguns.

>>20279
Thanks.
Am I alone in thinking that "almost committed crime" category is little too elastic to be reliable? Something can only be a crime after the fact, and before it happens it isn't easy to judge a situation would really develop into a crime.

>>20283
Btw that webm isn't an illustration to my post, just an addition to the thread.

>>19362
At 15 sec they literally shot the shoe off his foot and it flew 8m behind him.

>>20282
"Allah akbar, allah akbar, allah aarghh, argh, argh, allah argh, argh" haha.

Cleveland cops shot this guy in the stomach, and he got up and began attacking them again.

>>20283
That scene looks and hears fucking ridiculous. At each moment I was expecting it to turn into a comedy gag: Now with your left index finger and touch your right earlobe while singing the national anthem and jumping on your right foot...

>>20283
This sanctioned murderer should be behind bars now, and he walked free.

>>20291
You posted that just above. :^)

>>20300
I'm losing it. Sorry

>>20305
You can use .xyz now, you'll get your ball back.

>>20293
>>20298
The instructions weren't even clear.
>crawl forward!
Generally people crawl on their four limbs.

>>20307
I was talking to a police acquaintance about it and he even seemed to think the guy was gonna hang. Basically since they had 2-3 guns trained on him anyway as long as he was down with his hands on his head there was no reason to make him do the whole crawling bit, according to the guy I spoke to about it anyway.
The cop in question will probably never work as a cop again though so that might be a good thing?

>>20308
I'm happy he got fired, and will never get a Police Officer position anywhere again, but 20 years behind bars would have been a fitting punishment at least.

>>20308
It's clear the dude was scared shitless. If I recall it correctly I read on Wikipedia that he was drunk as well. It does seemed he wanted to please the officer I would say even a little too eagerly and assumed things he should do the officer didn't even say. The cop didn't recognize this.
Ofc they got a call that someone shooting with a rifle from that apartment (turned out to be a BB gun) so it could be supposed the dude might have a pistol or something on him as well. But by the looks of that two I can tell from this shitty video alone they're just some fools and not killer psychos. Maybe deserved a good scare and black eye but not this.
Compared to the other videos with negers chimping out their behaviour is extremely timid and cooperative.
I dunno what's my point here maybe that the cop had no idea how to handle this thing beside violence.
He should have realize the dude can't follow his instructions as he had to stop him and restart everything over and over a few times. Maybe he just had to command the dude to stay put laying on his stomach his hand on his head with fingers weaved together and go there and handcuff him.
But since they wanted to get into the apartment and he didn't trusted his answer that noone in there maybe he didn't see it as an option to just walk right up to the door where he was laying. Still they don't look like someone who have armed to the teeth friends hiding and waiting to strike and ambush policemen.
Now I'm just rambling coz I can't make sense of that video.

>>20310
Yeah, the officer definitely had some sort of anger issues or authoritative complex. During the internal investigation they found his service rifle had YOU'RE FUCKED engraved into it.

>>20310
In order for such a situation to flow smoothly, a degree of trust between the policeman and the approached is required. 70 years ago that would have been possible in America, but now it is a low-trust society. That police unit was likely used to facing genuinely dangerous individuals and acted in an accordingly paranoid manner. Such is life in a low-trust society: well-meaning people are prevented from being helpful and innocents get harmed.
Even then, a sane and professional cop could perhaps have overcome pressure, interpreted the situation and realized he wasn't facing a threatening individual. But this man's unstable mind tipped the scales and made it a tragedy.

>>20325
>>20327
My thoughts are returning to this video time to times and things comes to my mind such:
1. How confused/scared was the dude it took a while to him to decide which one is his left leg.
2. At the end he really put his right hand behind his back, or at least he started to. Why did he do that? And previously he put both back. Hindsight we know he hadn't had a gun so why did he do it? I guess he had some vague notion - from movies for example - how an arrest goes down, so he might been put his arms back because he waited to be handcuffed, and in the end as well. He thought he can lay down the ground and they will put on the cuffs.
3. Many people really can't follow simple instructions or can be perplexed with simple things. I have two experience with this.
3a. In school I witnessed many times that a teacher asked something extremely simple or obvious from a student who couldn't answer and it felt like he can't believe the teacher asked that and suspected some trick in the question.
3b. Not long ago I saw aquaintance telling his kid to do something who didn't because he didn't want to and the dad left his kid to do what he wanted to and didn't forced his own will on the kid. Then I interjected for a moment and asked the kid - I confess, unkindly but angry - why he doesn't do what his father tells him. His only job is to do just that. Then the kid started to cry and asked forgiveness from his father, that he was sorry. Still in the end he didn't have to do what his dad asked (which was really a simple thing, like "pick up that can!"). Many times I see such scenes when kids shat on what their parents say who left the whole thing at it. No consequences. At one level ofc this way the kids learn to be disobedient and at another level they learn not to follow simple instructions.
4. When was this? Before or after the Las Vegas hotel shooter? If after could this generate some excitement/fear in the cops as they could assume they will confront another one?
5. stuff
Extrapolate your onions.

>>20396
Badass.

What is school shootin?
Here's a list:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html
Just started reading and I found:
>A person was shot on the campus of Savannah State University and taken to a nearby hospital where he later died. Neither the victim nor the shooter were university students
>A 15-year-old boy was shot in the head and a 15-year-old girl shot in the wrist at Sal Castro Middle School in Los Angeles, officials said. Two other students were grazed by bullets. A 12-year-old girl was booked for negligent discharge of a firearm in that shooting, which was considered "unintentional," Los Angeles police said.
>A fight led to a shooting in the parking lot of Lincoln High School, fatally wounding a 32-year-old man.
It's liek when that police shooting statistics includes instances when the officer committed suicide. "Hardly the case what we're talking about!"

>>20435
Oh the criterion are just in the beginning. All right. The list's parameters are inadequate to define an acceptable category of school shooting.

>>20586
Fact: This webpage looks like it was setup up by the gun lobby

>>20587
It really does look like.
This is why I was curious about the sources. It is only one source I examined but chosen somewhat randomly and that one looks all right.

>>20590
Now am lying, because I was curious as the informational was taken from /k/ and those dudes are really love their raifus.

>>20587
Maybe it was just made by activists fighting for their gun rights.
According to their "About" page, it receives no funding from organizations such as the NRA.

>>20591
/k/ can be very serious and meticulous at times. When an engineering topic is under discussion, it's common to find at least one poster with knowledge in the specific field.

>>20610
My favourite line on that site can be found in the "Children and Guns" section under the "Myth: Guns in America spark youth violence":
>Thus we have a violence problem – not a “gun” problem.

>>20623
>Thus we have a violence problem – not a “gun” problem.
Honestly there could be some truth to that. We have the same "youth violence" problem in London right now but with knives instead of guns. That's more of a black people problem, though.

>>20669
Have similar problems with Gypsies. Back in the state socialism a group of typical violent crimes (or the method how they were committed) were belonged to a category of "Gypsy crimes" because almost exclusively were committed by gypsies. Now it's banned as it's not PC, also it's illegal to record by the cops the criminals ethnicity...
Frankly Hungary would be much, much safer without them.

>>20676
I didn't think you'd have the same problems thanks to le based totally not cucked Orbán. I guess us h'wite people are all the same in the end.

>>20678
Problems are the same, the name is different. I would say at least they are Christian - some of them at least - but it doesn't really reassure me.
In the communism work and having a job was mandatory, so back then Gypsies had to work too. All right it was an alibi work, everyone had to show up but noone made a sweat but at least they weren't at home or on the streets, this prevented crime and at least kept the settlements safer. And their numbers were low. But since then a new generation grew up who didn't work and could make money out of making kids, even further: making retard kids, because that payed more there are ways to ensure the newborn turns out "handicapped", alcohol, nicotine, paint thinner huffing, beating the mother's stomach etc, and they did it liberally. Getting all kinds of social help sometimes even free housing what they destroyed, sold what's sellable, burn for heating what's burnable Beside that they stole what wasn't nailed down so they could live quite comfortably what counts as comfort for them. Meanwhile they outbreed us. There are certain places, young Hungarians move to western Hungary or Europe, old people remain and the growing number gypsies. We knew this and see this, while the media doesn't talk about it.
With the Fidesz there are some changes, the money they can get free is miserable, harder to get the gibsmedats they are mostly forced to work again, or at least show up and 15 do a job what 2 could in the same time. At least they don't do crimes 8 hours per day. But not all of them have to, they still breed like rabbits and still no real talk about the problem. A bunch of euphemism were invented to substitute Gypsy. Great result.
Oh yeah, raised the number of cops and civilian security organizations for the localities were created at some places.
Funny how the media behaves and hard not to pin it onto some kind of central command. For decades they didn't show faces of criminals and shorten their names when published and they all said: to protect their privacy rights according to the law. No such law were in force ever. Now I think this changed somewhat I'm not sure I only read news to post something here.
I know when the kuruc.info showed up. This is a news site, became close to the Jobbik right at the beginning (one leading member is the owner, or rumored to be), it uses a language which makes it unreadable, repulsive, but back then - about 2005 - started to cover stories about Gypsy crime. Thanks to them many outrageous events could be known and couldn't be silenced. This news site is among the reasons I don't follow the media anymore. I can see what's going on around me in my little world I don't need frustrating news I cannot do about jackshit and frankly noone is willing to do.
There were the infamous "gypsy murders" - reported by every media outlet - when some Hungarians with hunting rifles walked up to some of the poorest gypsies' houses at the end of villages and shot some of them down. People were arrested the case is stretching to this day, sometimes I hear something they were released and/or cleared I don't know what's the latest. There were speculations of course that these were red flag operations. Nevertheless killing a few of them terrorist style doesn't work, even the idiots can see, things have to change on institutional level, but until we play ostrich politics and don't talk about the problem, we can't sit down and do something about it.
Oh time fly by I have to go.

>>20679
>But since then a new generation grew up who didn't work and could make money out of making kids
Sounds pretty much like our Irish """"""""""travellers""""""""""
>there are ways to ensure the newborn turns out "handicapped", alcohol, nicotine, paint thinner huffing, beating the mother's stomach etc, and they did it liberally.
The idea that people are willing to purposely make their own children retarded for some gibs is pretty fucked up, man.
>killing a few of them terrorist style doesn't work, even the idiots can see, things have to change on institutional level
This is something I think is true about the immigration crisis, too. Immigration itself isn't the problem, but it's a merely a symptom of a much larger problem.

>>20684
>pretty fucked up
They do/did all kinds of dirty tricks to maximize the cash they can get from the state. That's the dirtiest for sure.
They also give/gave their kids into state care and then adopted by some relatives (who lives next door anyway) because for every kid the adoptive parents can/could get a nice sum last time I heard about it it was very close to the minimum wage[spoiler] for every [spoiler]for 4 kids they could almost get minimum wage * 4 per month.
I don't know the most recent regulations so this is why I write in present/past tense.
>merely a symptom of a much larger problem.
Very true. To both case, immigration and Gypsies. We can let migrants in or erect fences to stop them as much we want it won't solve anything.
I'm not sure what would be the best in the case of Gypsies. For my heart, I would really just deport them. Push them out of the borders and force them to go wherever they want. Once a bunch of them went to Strasbourg to cry how oppressed they are on the Hungary. They stayed there but after a bunch of theft and cons they were sent back with the first train... But I really would let the westerners get them and enjoy their colorful and rich culture.
However this isn't really a solution. Maybe integration could work for some degree but what I have in mind on that front - serious segregation, selection, regulation of having children (basically eugenics), strict education, forced labour, clean life etc - the sensitive liberal heart couldn't handle. Also could take a few generations.

>>19362
Amerigans just keep getting shot.

>>20687
>>20687
turan gang for deporting unwanted elements of society.

>>27016
I wish.

Brice of Freedum.

>>19362
Amis sind und bleiben eben Untermenschen.

>>30768
hate when people get shot by retarded cops, aren't they suposed to be fucking trained for theese things, but when the moment of truth comes they act like that nazi german shooter did a few weeks ago shooting random people in the street, even if they were white, wich he was supposedly defending

>>30771
>>30772
Additional information: he had a realistically looking BB gun. So it's all justified.
America's doing good, they just recruit all the violent extremists in the pawlice force, so all the shootings will be legal now.

But to be serious for a moment: how they don't see it, that the US doesn't have gun problem or "imageboard problem". She has violence problem. They should solve that and all the other will go away.

>>30768
He'd be alive today if he just complied with the Police orders, and didn't act like a retard

>>30782
The US has a mental problem, with the police.
Most people that join the police or atleast this type of units that have assault rifles go there "to be badass and kill the bad guys", this of course is a completly ideotic idea, but it makes them scared of the guys who they are detaining/whatever they were doing with the poor hobo, because they don't consider him a human being, they only see a possible bad guy who will hurt them because thats what evil people do.
So they didn't went to him to detain the hobo, they went to him to kill the bad guy, "but if he complies we might detain him instead".
2-Population: 7,1% of the population has depression, and since in burgerland

>>30787
>2-Population: 7,1% of the population has depression, and since in burgerland
wops
>>30786
>He'd be alive today if he just complied with the Police orders, and didn't act like a retard
It's sad that this is the way they think, IMO police should never shoot if they are not shoot before, when you join the police you accept that you can get killed so deal with it, if he takes out a gun try to de-escalate the situation don't just fucking kill him, most humans don't whant to kill another human and most likely he's just scared as fuck

>>30788
vid talking about most people not wanting to kill another human being https://youtube.com/watch?v=QwyrgQrRjvY [Embed]

>>30782
americans have fucked up physcology. even if you take their guns, they will find a way to fuck up. it's saddening they have the world hegemony and our idiots imports their shit.

>>30790
American hegemony is starting to crumble, we can already see this with their failed coup in venezuela and the protests against the us-backed Chile's goberment

>>30786
Maybe.
Is the punishment of not following orders death?
But that's not why he was shot, the bb gun was in his pants and it seemed he reached for it. He might just wanted to fix his pants or whatever but that was enough. I think the officer was pissed for the dude not doing what he said, and that was an excuse to shot him.
There was no intention in the policemen to diffuse the situation. They were just bad.
In vid related on other hand... hats off to them, this is more than patience.

>>30789
Haha, Lllloyd. We have a whole thread just about that topic here: >>8950
There were many pictures with an illustration for the text here and there, but due to faulty database they're all gone now. I believe the book is on Library Genesis, but I think I can upload it if it's needed.

>>30792
>the protests against the us-backed Chile's goberment
Do you have any proofs on the Chilean government being backed up by the US, or are you just assuming because they're capitalists they're an US colony?

>>30792
>>30807
It's Cold War again.
Finally, I can post this pic.

>>30814
It's cold war but replace the USSR with China.

>>30792
>American hegemony is starting to crumble

But their cultural influence only getting stronger. I mean, their popular culture is everywhere, all these spidermans and other comics things, black and wannabe-black rappers, SJWs and other moral crusaders. It is hard to avoid this not only in English-speaking communities, but even locally nowadays.

>>30822
correct

>>30822
>all these spidermans and other comics things,
Don't kid yourself. American media is more likely safe and trite so every culture already believes anything they peddle. I saw Captain America: Civil War and none of my friends even understood the position of Cap, it was too nuanced.

>>30826
>government oversight and surveillance bad!
>too nuanced

Do Scandinavian countries just find it hard to swallow in general that people do not trust their government? I find this a common trend in the likes of Sweden and Norway, it's almost adorable how naive some of them are about the nature of Big Government.

>>30807
I meant to say that the US was friendly towards them, looking back, it wasn't the best choice of words.
>>30814
jej
>>30822
American culture replaced european culture many years ago, besides the influence of these things (SJW and shit like that) is generaly exagerated in the internet by /pol/ in order to sell their world view, as a person who has lived in many provinces in spain I haven't many SJW irl, even thou Spanish /pol/ says that they are everywere

>>30849
That's really not even the same question as with you federalists who already surrendered to an EU-style "big government" and inherit your entire world view from that kind of context. When our high-tax states have to spend their time managing the public spending instead of pressing a button to decide who in the private sector it should be subsidized to, they have little time to target individual citizens with bureaucratic bullshit. The additional top layers in federal governments on the other hand seem to exist to have nothing but time in their hands.

In Scandinavia you don't usually get vindictively punished for saving a life at the cost of breaking the law, which is what Cap does to harbor a fugitive (Bucky) who's about to be killed by a foreign operator (Black Panther) on American soil. We can probably assume Cap isn't going to go hang for it in the movie either, but his position is to do the crime in the first place. What I hear from moviegoers is commonly along the lines of "sucks, but he should obviously just let Bucky die".

>>33626
Wow that's a lot of familiar names. I'd like to know who the attacker was and what was his motives but from what I see now it's unknown.
You think that was some kind of revenge or just someone memeing?

>>33626
>Church of Christ (Christchurch, New Zealand)
>Tarrant county (Brenton Tarrant)
>Elevation 666 feet
FAKE!!!

>>33630
>>33631
It's all just happenstance. It was just a random white bum ofc.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/texas-shooting-hero-jack-wilson/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/texas-shooting-keith-thomas-kinnunen-profile/index.html
I like how this topic is covered by Mr. Amir Vera. And the reading suggestion at the end of the BBC's article. Was journalism reporing the facts ever?
>Kinnunen it was the Finns

>>33640
Oh, this is genius.
Look at the header of these and the previous two CNN articles, timestamps and authors. How they smuggled Mr. Amir Vera with time among the authors of these articles. He's just the perfect man for the job, black and Muslim (or Amir/Emir is that popular name among non-Mulsims).
I can just imagine how these companies are just having these guys around with these diverse background to throw into the fray when it's necessary. The battle of opinion forming, the great struggle of our time.

>>33642
The previous two is also on the list actually.

>>33640
>Kinnunen
Oh fug he's Finnish.

Here's the nigga, who got shot.
What I don't understand those three cops around why couldn't they restrain him, why did they let him walk around the car? All of them jerking out their pistols, why can't they hit his thigh muscle with a baton instead? They had to learn techniques to restrain people, no? Here policemen do. Srsly, wtf?

>>39518
Btw, he is alive, but paralyzed. They shot at him seven times, four hit him.

>>39518
I cant help to think of technocracy about all the police things. I've heard from several sources about "citizen police" aswell. My guess is, in a technocratic society police aren't of any use since AI controls everything and is the police, judge and law. So this is just propaganda, to make people feel this vitriol disgust against the police.

Same with politicians and bureaucrats. There is no room for them in a technocratic tyranny.

>>39523
>technocracy
That depends how a technocracy would be constructed. And also how we define technocracy.
>AI controls everything and is the police, judge and law
As for now one entity cannot fill all those shoes, srsly tyrannical and people wouldn't agree on that. Protip: the govt telling you wear your fucking mask on public transport isn't tyrannical, the abolition of the separation of power is trannical.
But in this context how do you define law? The legislation?
I think the base police force in the US is undertrained thugs or worse undertrained and undereducated civvies in uniform who can't handle themselves (and definitely not others) in a stressful situation.

>>39524
In a civilization money power rules it all. When coins and paper cash is gone, and everyone has a chip to pay for things there is no need for any external force.

5G is there to connect everyone with everyone else, the hivemind. You might argue that we are already living in a hivemind, and in a way we already are. I was drinking my (raw) eggs and milk today for breakfast and my colleagues were worried I might catch salmonella. I asked if salmonella is a town in Italy. They didn't see the humour in that. So everyone is thinking the same, dresses the same, acts the same. What if they also (with a brainchip or altered DNA/RNA) feels the same? What if they can feel the starvation of a niglet in africa and thus thinks that rationing of the food is a perfectly sensible thing to do?

>>39529
Saying you're gonna catch salmonella is just a routine thing. You can tho, not from the raw egg, but the chickenshit on the shell. Although stuff can get through the shell it isn't insulates hermetically.
The others with the brainchip and stuff I won't comment, it's pure fantasy. Oh I just commented.

>>39562
>it's pure fantasy
Why do you think so?

>>39564
Because I could tell you a bunch of things gonna happen tomorrow but no matter how sure they will happen they would be just stuff I come up with and right now they only exist in my heda.
What you wrote is similar, except it contains more assumptions.

Anyway, my point was originally, that the US police is underfunded, they should spend more on them to get better human material to pick it as a career and to give them better training.
I don't think even in a possible future when all payments will be digital (I refuse to believe in chip implants, it's easier to do it with some gadget, like smart phones) simply penalization via the ability to make payments will result in the abolishment of the police force. Criminals don't give a rats ass about retribution, and those who commit crimes because they get agitated (eg. someone gets pissed at another and punch him in the beak) also don't give a shit in the heat of the moment. And even if solely digital payment will exist, there will be ways to get around of it.

>gets prop gun
>shoot people
Sadly no video. Is LiveLeak still alive?
https://securebooks.in/2021/10/22/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-live/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59005500

>>45350
no video for it me thinks

>>45367
No, no videos in the links, just articles.
I think the "live" meant: live updated of the story.

Stolen from Bernd.group.
Nice little addition.
Okay, he's got a knife. Okay he brandished it. Maybe he can walk just decided to roll, so counting on him staying seated isn't a 100% bet. Maybe if he entered it would have been harder to diffuse the situation.
But in that fuckin moment, how is it not possible to use a non-lethal way of dealing with him?
Just grab the baton and hit his hand so he can't drive that mobility chair on and disable lel him to use his knife with one action.
Or taze him.
Or something.

I bet all the officers train with gun with religious fervor, and spend little thought on practicing other ways of handling people.
That neger with the knife who got shot (and survived) and the event caused the Kenosha riots also could have been neutralized differently. I have no doubt Hungarian police could have dealt with the situation - and I don't have too much regards toward them or have overinflated trust in their capabilities. But I do believe they are thugs enough to beat up people who would use knife against them, without themselves being harmed.

>>45765

People who work in some profession often have thing called "professional deformation". For police it is specifically valid: when everything in your life is filled by pretty specific kind of people, you start to expect everyone be like them, and often begin acting like them (because there is no other way). It requires serious amount of will to prevent yourself from becoming thug when every person you interact is a thug who rarely understands anything except force. Especially considering that people who go to police already aren't big humanitarians either.

American police has specific local problem: they work in environment full of armed people who don't care about prison sentences and may shoot on sight just for fun, especially in some ghetto regions. So they already have deformed enough personality that forces then to shoot first and think later. It saves them in most cases, but when case is different they just can't act in other way.

I think any amount of training would be useless for US police until they'll fix their complex system problem with crime-ridden regions, but there is no reasonable solution in sight.

>no doubt Hungarian police could have dealt with the situation

I guess that if you fill Hungary with large amount of weapons and people who don't afraid to use them everyday, your police also would transformed to something like this in few years.

>>45768
>For police it is specifically valid...
That's true.
>specific local problem
>especially in some ghetto regions.
Sure. But in this particular case above, that person did not look like a gangbanger preparing for a drive-by in his mobility chair.
>crime-ridden regions
This is important, not all areas are Detroit, or south central LA. The real gun crime ridden parts are localized.

Maybe there is one more component of the problem. What I see these videos that they seem precarious in the beginning, they let the thing spiral out of control to the point where they have to use deadly force. Here's the shooting that triggered the Kenosha riots (and the Rittenhouse case) >>39518
Maybe their uncertainty comes from the general disdain projected towards the police and the feeling they have to cover their asses, and they are afraid to do what's necessary early because they might be afraid of being called out for police brutality (even tho it would be just a beating what they do). Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

>I guess that if you fill Hungary...
Maybe. I don't hear much about shootings, even tho we have plenty criminals, and criminal elements who arm themselves, so something must happen.
It's not that hard to get weapons legally (sanity and background check essentially - sames in the US), but probably the prices are high in comparison to wages (last time I heard complains from a pal that hunting rifles are expensive, no idea about other weapons).
Criminals have their own channels, especially in organized crime.

Can this theory of professional distortion apply to this as well?
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=VG0wfPMMR4k
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=1iuuyg94-yI
>73 years old woman with dementia and "sensory aphasia" leaves a store with ~$14 worth of items (candy bar, detergent, t-shirt, "be less white" soda), she gets thrown to the ground several times, "are you ok? it's ok, the blood is hers", her arm is twisted behind her back, arm fractured, shoulder dislocated, "here comes the pop! hear the pop?", then handcuffed to a cell for about 5 hs.

She wasn't shot, unlike that wheelchair man, but can a pig really confuse a tiny babushka in bright daylight like this with a tough criminal in a dangerous situation?

>>45828
>but can a pig really confuse a tiny babushka in bright daylight like this with a tough criminal in a dangerous situation

I think it is no about confusion, but about mindset. They see people not as humans but as potential criminals and "work material", and see themselves as people who have power to do everything they want.

I.e. they do it because they can, and they have no problems with it. Even those who don't really have official power, like commercial security in shops or offices, often act similar way. Maybe it is about seeing yourself not equal than others in some perverted way, or just basic monkey instinct to use violence to establish yourself in hierarchy.

That is why it is better to avoid people who works in such professions (police, prison guards, etc) when you can, even if it is informal situation and they aren't at work - who knows what happens in their heads. I guess exceptions surely exist, and there must be good and humane policemen, but there is no way to distinguish between them and other types.

>>45828
Watched the firs vid until they put her into the car at 5:10. Where's the beating starts?
Because up until that point, that's not that bad. Ofc the policeman isn't a doctor or anything who could tell she's not right in the head (and criminals do play that card) and doesn't look like he uses much more force than the situation required, and he also can't judge if her bone structure can't bear that.
Way better than thinking the phone or the candy bar is a firearm and shoot her.

Anyone else here listens to psytrance/chill?
New Óperentzia album is out, last track is a banger. They fuse the psy-electronic with guest musicians doing Carpathian and Balkan folk music.
https://operentzia.bandcamp.com/album/biohack

>>45872
Do you mean American cops should listen this and chill? Or accidentally in the wrong thread?

>>45874
What the fuck, this is hella bugged.
I tried posting this in the music thread, first time it just created a new thread, then this.
Wtf.

>>45891
End never had such issues.

>>45895
>End never had such issues.

Dunno fam. Sometimes the site acts a little random.

I've had some issues when posting before just like Slov >>45891 has

>>45834
Ok, so you were talking about a mental "unbalance", or out-of-norm out-of-place "balance", resulting from the professional conditioning. Of course, that makes sense
Actually, this explanation is probably within the orthodoxy and in some cases it might be a deliberately sought-after state, just like how part of the military training is to remove from the/some trainees potential reservations that they might have, possibly born out instinctive senses (something like "empathy"), in order to make out of them more effective extensions of the commander's will. Similar training no doubt also is imparted to police, specially considering the growing militarization of civil forces.

>>45837
The videos don't show any "beating" (as in punching, kicking, etc.) but if you skip around in the videos you can hear and also read subtitles which show that he did realize he harmed her because he makes comments about it. Like asking where some blood came from, or in the video showing the police-station office he asks "did you hear the pop?", they all watch the dude's worn camera and he expectantly announces "here comes the pop!" and "I love it!", he also looks at some documents in his computer discovering that she's 73 and might have mental issues yet the old woman would remain several more hours handcuffed to a cell with an injured arm and shoulder. Seems like he also didn't really need to drop her into the ground again to apply that leg restraint because he says to the fatso something along the lines of just being very eager to finally be able to use it on someone
Of course, way better than being shot 8 times Lol

>>48137
Is he okay?

>>48155
Dandy. He is kinda dead, but in the good way.

>>48137
Fucking lmao
"overkill"

A wyman with a badge shot her partner accidentally, freaked out somehow thinking (or pretending) the shot came from the suspect on the floor and shot him twice, killing him.

So we see and hear about all those f ups police in usa and it made me think: how are places where only sheriffs exist doing? I heard opinions those places are much better and safer. Perhaps defunding the police is the way after all. Sheriffs are voted into the position by the local community, no?

>>48416
I meant to add pic related

>>48417
wtf it wont upload

>>48309
Bunch of uneducated psychopaths.
You have any link to share to an article or something?

>>48416
I'm not exactly sure what a sheriff does or how his office differ from regular police.

>>48425
Thanks.
Bloke pulling a gun while that many officers manhandling him doesn't sound plausible. One fucking up and negligibly discharging his/her gun is more like it.
>1st vid
Couple of bullets really can make an uncooperative person placid. I bet they have several classes on this in police school.
>2nd vid
He played too much vidya.

Bloke stabbed three cops with a knife. One dead.
They shot him in the leg and arrested him...
https://index.hu/belfold/2023/01/14/rendorgyilkossag-tamadas-keseles-ujbuda-rendorseg-buncselekmeny-budapest-baumann-peter/

>wrestles gun from officer
>get shot
I'd really watch the whole thing spiraling out. That cop whose gun was taken looks incompetent, how he let that happen? Obviously there is more to it.
Then the dude walking up towards the arriving cop cars, calm as a cucumber. Did they just blast him, or did he went for a shot first? The branches covering the scene.
Tried to search about this but who knows when was this taken.