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Bug Reports (and Feature Suggestions) Anonymous 03/26/2021 (Fri) 23:05 [Preview] No. 11577
>Issue 1
Having some trouble with linebreaks spreading out. Seems to do it sometimes but not others, not sure why.
>>>/cumg/36 >>>/cumg/37

>Issue 2
Code tags seem to escape into greentext when $ is used.
>>>/cumg/16 >>>/cumg/15 >>>/cumg/19

>Issue 3
The captcha button has no reload button in the reply pop-up. It doesn't always reload automatically, in turn causing the user the need to refresh the page.
>During the refresh, they may lose their text, however it seems to stay but the file they had attached gets unattached.

>Suggestion 1
Consider wrapping the site with IPFS for archival/resiliency.

>Suggestion 2
Consider adding support to KurobaEx. The current most popular FOSS image-board app on Android. A fork of Kuroba.
I know this isn't exactly an Endchan thing, however it would be beneficial to Endchan end users and allowing more people to use it easily on mobile.
>inb4 phone-posters.

Anonymous 03/26/2021 (Fri) 23:07 [Preview] No.11578 del
also please delete my duplicate post in >>>/operator/>>28

Anonymous 03/26/2021 (Fri) 23:08 [Preview] No.11579 del
I'm going braindead

Anonymous 03/27/2021 (Sat) 07:25 [Preview] No.11580 del
>Issue 2
Thanks for reporting this issue. The code that interprets posts and applies colors should be disabled inside CODE tags, because sometimes the source code gets interpreted as markup for changing colors like in >>>/cumg/15 .


Anonymous 03/28/2021 (Sun) 14:09 [Preview] No.11582 del
> The code that interprets posts and applies colors should be disabled inside CODE tags
I'm a bit confused on what you're trying to infer.

Is this a fix you are suggesting? Or are you simply stating that it is currently a bug and you guys need to fix it?
If it is a solution, please provide an example as I don't entirely understand.

 tags if enabled by board owner
I notice that has no closing code tag, is that intentional?

Anonymous 03/28/2021 (Sun) 14:10 [Preview] No.11583 del
Lol the code tag screwed up the bottom greentext, but I was quoting the code text from that page

>CODE tags if enabled by board owner
>I notice that has no closing code tag, is that intentional?

Anonymous Admin 03/28/2021 (Sun) 15:28 [Preview] No.11584 del
As far as I can tell noone had this issue. Maybe the problem is on your end.
Yeah, that's the text color formatting. This >>11580 post isn't mine, looks like someone from the staff, I'll ask. Also if we can do something about it.
Use the reload button at the form on the top of the page. Yeah it's kinda defeats the purpose of the Quick Reply window... but only when captcha is enabled for every posts. Normally it isn't. If you are a BO, enable when necessary (and the lack of reload feature might just annoy those who made you enable the captcha).
Most likely nay.
I think Kuroba support was asked earlier, then we are in the process of considering it. It isn't a priority, other projects go first.
These phone-posters, srsly...

Anonymous 11/15/2022 (Tue) 22:17 [Preview] No.18261 del
This is relatively fresh.

Anonymous 11/24/2022 (Thu) 19:07 [Preview] No.18284 del
The .net and .gg domains aren't working at all. Every time I input any of them, it takes me to the .org domain. Pls fix

Anonymous 11/24/2022 (Thu) 19:48 [Preview] No.18285 del
It says the file size limit is 350 MB but I get entity too large error on a 140 MB file.

Anonymous Admin 11/24/2022 (Thu) 19:53 [Preview] No.18286 del
Due to the relentless dickspam we had to redirect the traffic of .net .gg to .org, which is behind CloudFlare which helps mitigating it.
We are trying to find a solution, and return back to the original setup.

Disable JS.

Anonymous 11/24/2022 (Thu) 21:25 [Preview] No.18287 del
I disabled JS, that's how I know that it is "413 Request Entity Too Large" and not some bullshit meaningless "Connection failed." message.

Anonymous 11/24/2022 (Thu) 22:31 [Preview] No.18288 del
Cloudflare has 100MB limit, so if you're uploading more than that, You'd have to use tor.

Anonymous 12/06/2022 (Tue) 22:16 [Preview] No.18298 del
>Due to the relentless dickspam we had to redirect the traffic of .net .gg to .org

I'm pretty sure it's just the same guy who spammed /pol/ for a while. And the guy who almost killed sportschan. You may want to talk to each of the board's owners to know what you're dealing with here/

And yeah that guy's crazy. Don't try to reason as to why he keeps doing the same thing over and over again. For half a decade at this point I think

Anonymous 12/31/2022 (Sat) 07:08 [Preview] No.18330 del
Another question about file sizes. I want to publish an archive of messages from another image board. It contains sqlite3 database files with text, and, according to my estimate, it will be about 600 MB. Can I attach this to a message for easy access, or is it better to upload to a file sharing hosting to respect Endchan's hard drives?

Anonymous 01/09/2023 (Mon) 15:44 [Preview] No.18334 del
why no https redirect?

Anonymous 01/25/2023 (Wed) 18:11 [Preview] No.18355 del
better for older browser support. Some people can't update their browser or their root SSL certififate.

Anonymous 01/27/2023 (Fri) 21:48 [Preview] No.18358 del
I need to add a board volunteer, but there's always a chance they will delete everything while I'm sleeping or something. Do you guys keep backups? Would it be possible to rollback an entire board?

Anonymous 01/28/2023 (Sat) 14:24 [Preview] No.18361 del
Admin, >>18358

Anonymous Admin 01/28/2023 (Sat) 14:51 [Preview] No.18362 del
No. If something gets deleted, it's deleted.
Getting a vol is always a risk, I suggest be transparent with the users, tell them, another mod joins your team, and everyone should make sure they have everything saved they want to have. Give them a couple of days maybe.
You could archive some threads beforehand, try these:

Anonymous 01/28/2023 (Sat) 14:52 [Preview] No.18363 del

Anonymous 01/30/2023 (Mon) 09:04 [Preview] No.18364 del
How to lock thread for bumping, but not for posting?
How to autosage thread?

Anonymous Admin 01/30/2023 (Mon) 09:12 [Preview] No.18365 del
Here's what those options do:
Lock: prevents posting in the thread.
Pin: sticky, pin the thread to the top, so no matter which thread gets bumped it will stay on top of the first page
Cyclic: never tested this, so not entirely sure, something liek keep the thread forever going, it never reaches bump limit, it gets pruned from the beginning (perhaps)
When a thread reaches bump limit, which is 500 posts, it gets autosaged, new posts won't bump the thread. This can be customized by the BO by setting Reply Limit, description says:
>autosage after this number, lock thread after twice this number
That's it.

Anonymous 01/30/2023 (Mon) 20:00 [Preview] No.18366 del
I know this options very well.
>That's it.
It is autosage by reply limit, nothing surprising. But i need moderation installable "autosage" option for threads.
I want to use it for bad threads which i won't delete.
Maybe we can recieve this option in the future?

Anonymous 01/30/2023 (Mon) 20:10 [Preview] No.18367 del
I see.
We'll see.

Anonymous 01/31/2023 (Tue) 21:22 [Preview] No.18368 del
Any chance there will be an option NOT TO strip metadata from an image?

Anonymous 02/06/2023 (Mon) 12:19 [Preview] No.18370 del
I suggest adding the board option to generate user IDs for tor posters the same way it is done for clearnet users.
Right now /polru/ suffers from an influx of government-hired shitposters and the moderation is overwhelmed (appointing new moderators is a trust problem here).
So this functionality would allow users to hide tor shitposts (or it would force shitposters to spend their time changing circuits and filling captchas all the time, good for me).

Normally I'd opt for more persistent solution for user IDs, not reliant on ip address. But with tor browser no cookies policy and it actively resisting js fingerprinting I'm not even sure what could work apart from dumb shit like proof of work auth that no one would want.

Anonymous 02/06/2023 (Mon) 18:19 [Preview] No.18371 del
We need regular expressions filters and more limits (20 isn't enough) and for more length.
We need to get rid of paid kremlin trolls. Their agenda is pure evil.

Anonymous 02/06/2023 (Mon) 18:19 [Preview] No.18372 del
We need regular expressions filters and more limits (20 isn't enough) and for more length.
We need to get rid of paid kremlin trolls. Their agenda is pure evil.

Anonymous 02/06/2023 (Mon) 20:05 [Preview] No.18374 del
why? I don't see a legit case use

Will look into it

Anonymous 02/10/2023 (Fri) 01:08 [Preview] No.18375 del
Are you around?
Hop on IRC, asap, please.

Anonymous 02/10/2023 (Fri) 01:29 [Preview] No.18376 del
Never mind, took too long.

Anonymous 02/14/2023 (Tue) 21:59 [Preview] No.18384 del
Stable Diffusion threads for example. The generated pictures store generation info (prompt, seed, model, etc.) into the metadata. This metadata of course gets stripped when the picture is uploaded to Endchan, so if another anon wants to check out the prompt he has to ask the poster to upload his picture to some file host. That is rather tedious.

/ca/ board Anonymous 02/17/2023 (Fri) 16:31 [Preview] No.18385 del
Why i don't have Name field in posting form on /ca/ board?
Only: Email, Subject, Comment, Password, Drawing, File(s).

How to use role signature without Name?

Anonymous 02/17/2023 (Fri) 16:33 [Preview] No.18386 del
BO's can disable it.

Anonymous 02/17/2023 (Fri) 16:37 [Preview] No.18387 del
If you can use role signature, you must be the BO. You can enable the Name field then.
Btw when you log in, there is a checkbox in the account which says:
>Always use role signature
You could temporarily enable that to make a post in your role.

Anonymous 02/17/2023 (Fri) 16:41 [Preview] No.18388 del
i found, unchecking "Force anonimity" option fixed this

Anonymous 02/17/2023 (Fri) 16:41 [Preview] No.18389 del

Anonymous 02/20/2023 (Mon) 05:42 [Preview] No.18390 del
> Issue
When creating a thread, if I solve captcha and press enter in input form there is an error "No image attached" or something like that even though I attach them. But if I use the "New topic" button, the thread will be created as intended.

> Suggestion
Post count in thread.
It is annoying to look a post count in catalog or on the board page.

I'm sorry if I didn't explain clearly. My english is lame.

Anonymous 03/03/2023 (Fri) 03:11 [Preview] No.18394 del
Ah ok, I'll look into allowing this somehow...

Anonymous 03/07/2023 (Tue) 09:27 [Preview] No.18402 del
Can you guys add ability for board owners to bump-lock/put threads into autosage (like the anchor that 8chan used to have)

also the ability for board owners to view post history by ip hash would be helpful

Missing pictures?? Anonymous 03/12/2023 (Sun) 09:24 [Preview] No.18422 del
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All the non-OP images are missing from these threads:

The catalog still says stuff like "R: 94 / I: 112" but they do not appear in the thread. Please fix.

Anonymous Admin 03/12/2023 (Sun) 09:26 [Preview] No.18423 del
Yeah. Still assessing the situation. Many images were lost on some boards. I fear there is no way back. We'll see.

Anonymous 03/21/2023 (Tue) 15:28 [Preview] No.18441 del
Is there a way to sort pinned threads and keep the one with the board rules always on top even if another pinned thread receives new posts?

Anonymous Admin 03/21/2023 (Tue) 16:49 [Preview] No.18442 del
I'm not aware.
You could try adding the rules into the board message. Can format it with custom CSS.

Anonymous Admin 03/21/2023 (Tue) 20:51 [Preview] No.18443 del
Another thing. On the top of the page just below the posting form there is that...
>Remember to follow the rules
That contains board rules you set in board management under...
>Manage rules
You can keep board rules there and make that line more apparent with CSS.
We're gonna try to make it more obvious for users by default so maybe no custom CSS will be needed.

Anonymous 03/22/2023 (Wed) 20:47 [Preview] No.18444 del
Posts on a hidden board do not show up on the Latest Posts list on the front page but images do. Is this intended?

Anonymous Admin 03/23/2023 (Thu) 07:42 [Preview] No.18445 del

Anonymous 05/04/2023 (Thu) 14:30 [Preview] No.18488 del
Can I report CP spam without JavaScript without having to open the thread first?

Anonymous Admin 05/04/2023 (Thu) 14:47 [Preview] No.18489 del
You just did! Thanks for the report.
Also you can hop on to IRC and report there (or Discord and Telegram). Link is on the navbar at the top.

Anonymous 05/04/2023 (Thu) 19:25 [Preview] No.18491 del
Without JavaScript, yes, but without opening the thread, no. On overboard or catalog page there is no report form and even if there was, as there is on individual boards, is it possible to identify which post or thread to report? It could be legally problematic if you knowingly open a thread containing CP, even if you do it for reporting.

Anonymous 05/28/2023 (Sun) 13:33 [Preview] No.18521 del
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Pictures don't load half the time, at least on /polru/.
I'm getting error
Browser - Chrome, tried both Russian and Estonian IPs - doesn't matter.
Right click -> Load image fixes it, but not always.
Asked in a thread and apparently I'm not the only one with this problem.
pls fix

Anonymous Admin 05/28/2023 (Sun) 14:06 [Preview] No.18522 del
.gg and .net struggles with thumbnailing in large threads.
I'll pass it on, and will discuss with the rest of the staff.

Anonymous 05/28/2023 (Sun) 16:14 [Preview] No.18523 del
Hello from chipmunks from /polru!
Can you add some features against pro-putin spammers?

1.Tor and lokinet users id derived from session to see different users, because all tor and lokinet users looks same and spammers using it.

2.Proof of work captcha and detect or something to use real browser to avoid batch spamming with curl and bots.

3.More limits and more replacements in admin panel to fulfill needs of this battle against pro-putin spammers.

Anonymous 05/28/2023 (Sun) 16:15 [Preview] No.18524 del
Putin's government want to find out anybody who against it, so we need real things like tor

Anonymous 05/28/2023 (Sun) 16:23 [Preview] No.18525 del
4.Spam filter which reacts on keywords and combinations and mark blockBypass as outdated and all messages removed.
Like 2 messages with pro putin websites or combination of hate speech = blockBypass banned and messages is deleted.

Or better: replace to something like glory to ukraine and putin suck cocks.

We need some kind of defense against this cancer.

Anonymous Admin 05/28/2023 (Sun) 18:32 [Preview] No.18526 del
I see lots of deletions in the logs on /polru/, and I mean a LOT. We can't do much about trolls. I understand that the userbase do not like to read specific opinions, but accepting the existence of some could cut back on the need of moderation work.
Partially we can't do much because of technical constraints of the imageboard's engine. Here I have to ask how would you guys implement the suggested features? The source code of InfinityNow is available, check bottom of the home page.
In other part it's an arms race, trolls adapt to new tools, and will continue on, which leads to placing in more restrictions, which will be again and again avoided. So all the work is pointless.
Imageboards weren't designed to be restrictive anyway.

>Or better: replace to something like glory to ukraine and putin suck cocks.
There is a wordfilter feature that changes the text.
I would also suggest to create your own tools. If you want to automate detection of unwanted posts it can be done in different ways, liek Greasemonkey, python, or even bash scripts. Deletion can be automated too, problem is with false positives (like someone quotes an unwanted post). Liek a Greasemonkey scipt that runs when you open a thread and click a custom button added and do whatever it does could be a hueg moderation help. But be careful with automation please so you won't DoS our site with flood of billion requests per second accidentally or some such.

Anonymous 05/29/2023 (Mon) 22:41 [Preview] No.18528 del
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I want to have an ability to go from the middle of the thread to the board, meaning from https://endchan.org/polru/res/210357.html to https://endchan.org/polru/
Right now it's impossible because there isn't a single link that goes there and I have to manually edit URL or scroll up or down.
Why doesn't the header contain the link to go up to the board?

Anonymous 05/30/2023 (Tue) 16:11 [Preview] No.18529 del
It's, actually, not a opposite opinion, but a few monkeys from 50 cent army who just manually wiping.
In any case, thanks a lot for adding features and fixing the problems. It's glad to see that's legacy version is not abandoned.
So, if I get it right. If we find someone who shall implement our suggestions you could add it, am I right?
Ah, and about wordfilter. Is there a possibility to add a regexp for it?

Anonymous 05/30/2023 (Tue) 21:54 [Preview] No.18531 del
> Is there a possibility to add a regexp for it?
Yes please, regexp would've been amazing.

odilitime Board owner 06/02/2023 (Fri) 01:31 [Preview] No.18533 del
We're looking at adding some JS to help with this.

Easier said than done

Clicking on the board title/banner. Or "return" links at the top or bottom do this.

You can make PRs/MRs to the repo. InfinityNow is open source. However before we'll accept the change the changes needs not affect most of the other boards behavior. For example make sure certain behavior changes are board settings, so BOs can choose.

I'm looking into RegExs for filters.

Anonymous 06/02/2023 (Fri) 09:33 [Preview] No.18535 del
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haha fuck cunny

Anonymous 06/03/2023 (Sat) 07:28 [Preview] No.18536 del
Just to clarify, these aren't mere trolls. These are people employed by the Russian government, their task being to disrupt opposition resources on the internet by spamming and to spread official propaganda. The spam consists mainly of articles copied from Russian state media channels and gloating over Ukrainian deaths, although sometimes they post gore or porn. They primarily use darknet or large pools of proxies or dynamic IPs, specifically to avoid being banned. They can produce a few hundred posts of spam during the span of one shift.
We do not ban people for expressing different opinions, and we do not take sides in arguments between groups of posters with opposing views. There have been a few short 2-day bans for persistent shitposting and threatening other posters, but generally there are no rules besides global rules.

Anonymous 06/03/2023 (Sat) 11:34 [Preview] No.18538 del
>accepting the existence
It's just ruins normal conversation, it's designed to do it.
This opinions lacks real meaning.
It's like a virus, you will react to it, answer and spread it, and real messages will be faded by massive lie shitposting.


I see only one cure: explosives and executions.
Because this shit ruins lives and societies.

Anonymous 06/03/2023 (Sat) 11:44 [Preview] No.18539 del
>I'm looking into RegExs for filters.
This will help against a lot of spam.
This should be very long limits for strings and some special stuff like changing messages, removing it, bans, mark similar posts by rule like site or keywords (like sites) to group it by same poster and to clean.

I think, dollchan users with js skills can help.

Anonymous 06/08/2023 (Thu) 04:24 [Preview] No.18540 del
Is it possible to load ban messages (those displayed under the post) on thread auto-refreshing? As of now, you have to fully refresh (F5) the thread to see who's been banned

Anonymous 06/14/2023 (Wed) 23:56 [Preview] No.18545 del
You can add the board link to the header by clicking the star next to the board name on the boards page.

Anonymous 07/06/2023 (Thu) 06:59 [Preview] No.18603 del
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Sage option does not work on magrathea.

do something about this pedo Spanish pedo 07/07/2023 (Fri) 21:18 [Preview] No.18604 del
Im not spanish or live in spain. There is this pedo in Spain, Barcelona. Please do something about him.

C/ d'Aribau, 56-70, 08011 Barcelona, Spain

41° 23′ 19.64″ N 2° 9′ 31.64″ E

Anonymous 08/07/2023 (Mon) 13:03 [Preview] No.18713 del
"Enable realtime" not working, stays disconnected. Multiple days now.
Also when it was working, sometimes it would bug out and show what anons where typing before they posted it, causing various issues.

Anonymous Admin 08/07/2023 (Mon) 14:56 [Preview] No.18714 del
As far as I know it only worked on .net for some reason. And now .net is down.
Yes it should show what other users are typing live.

Anonymous 08/07/2023 (Mon) 15:43 [Preview] No.18715 del
It worked on .org as far as I seen as that's my normal route, but maybe with .net down is the reason its not working on org now too. Glad you're know about it.
Don't know if the read live typing was a bug or a feature, but at least you're aware of it.
Thanks, o7

Anonymous 08/09/2023 (Wed) 11:50 [Preview] No.18716 del
>Yes it should show what other users are typing live.

Ohh ok.
Well when E R was working on .org it would only show others typing sometimes, so it looked like a bug, plus it created issues where people would use it for the wrong reasons, copying posts, etc.
I just liked the feature of being able to see how many were on a Board and in Thread.

Anonymous 08/09/2023 (Wed) 16:51 [Preview] No.18717 del
When are net and gg coming back? Right now only org works for me.

Anonymous 08/10/2023 (Thu) 07:11 [Preview] No.18718 del
They are back. Typing this on .gg

Anonymous 08/10/2023 (Thu) 13:04 [Preview] No.18719 del
net is working.

Anonymous 08/10/2023 (Thu) 13:05 [Preview] No.18720 del
And sweet, Realtime is working again!

Anonymous 08/10/2023 (Thu) 16:04 [Preview] No.18721 del
(332.77 KB 566x800 praise the sun.jpg)

Anonymous 10/11/2023 (Wed) 16:12 [Preview] No.18780 del
Replying to post (click on post number) from board root does not work.
At least in /polru

Anonymous 10/13/2023 (Fri) 16:42 [Preview] No.18781 del
40 pages maximum when? /agatha2/ has reached the page limit. It needs more pages to keep older threads.

Anonymous Admin 10/13/2023 (Fri) 16:49 [Preview] No.18782 del
Endchan is an imageboard, imageboard content is ephemeral.
Couple of online services are available to archive threads:
You can also try simply saving pages File/Save Page As.. and keep an archive on your computer. It can be uploaded to online storage. Or even a VPS can be rented and the files uploaded where one could browse them inactively.

odilitime Board owner 10/21/2023 (Sat) 16:00 [Preview] No.18786 del
We have put a fix in for that. If you're still having problems let us know which Browser and version you're using.

Anonymous 10/29/2023 (Sun) 14:45 [Preview] No.18792 del
(6.00 B nigger)
Endchan doesn't offer a "strip filenames" option for file uploads, unlike some other chans which rename the file to its hash. Such functionality could be nice on Endchan, too. If Endchan doesn't support it, it could be possible to predict the filename without uploading it to Endchan. Looks like the filenames are generated with base64 and md5 from the file data:
    var toPush = {

title : file.name,

md5 : crypto.createHash('md5').update(content, 'base64').digest('hex'),

size : stats.size,

mime : mime,

spoiler : file.spoiler,

pathInDisk : location


Anonymous 10/29/2023 (Sun) 14:58 [Preview] No.18793 del
It's just the md5 of the binary file data plus a suffix which depends on the file type. A file with the content "nigger" became c35312fb3a7e05b7a44db2326bd29040-applicationoctet-stream.so
$ echo -n nigger | md5sum

c35312fb3a7e05b7a44db2326bd29040 -

BTW, md5 is insecure.

Anonymous Admin 10/29/2023 (Sun) 19:38 [Preview] No.18794 del
The hashes are basically identifiers we don't really secure anything with 'em.
We did not write Lynxchan.

Anonymous 11/05/2023 (Sun) 21:52 [Preview] No.18806 del
I can't watch or download most of videos.
I've tried chrome extension for stream capture, but best it can do is to show 99.9& progress which never succeeds.

Anonymous 11/06/2023 (Mon) 05:26 [Preview] No.18807 del
http://endchancxfbnrfgauuxlztwlckytq7rgeo5v6pc2zd4nyqo3khfam4ad.onion/ is not available
Details: 0xF0 – The requested onion resource descriptor was not found in the hash. The service is not available to the client.

Tor Backup is working.

Anonymous 11/06/2023 (Mon) 05:27 [Preview] No.18808 del
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Here ya go.

Anonymous 11/06/2023 (Mon) 08:16 [Preview] No.18814 del
Chan owner, this site will be destroyed with us laws if u dont gas the kikes in polru, they ban all anti-jewish posters, not muslims

Anonymous 11/06/2023 (Mon) 08:16 [Preview] No.18815 del
Chan owner, this site will be destroyed with us laws if u dont gas the kikes in polru, they ban all anti-jewish posters, not muslims

Anonymous 11/08/2023 (Wed) 11:26 [Preview] No.18844 del
Polru board owner must be changed to white
He is kike and has a team of kike mods
Polru is jewish nest now
I like their anti-putins themes but they denies jewish crimes, they ban and delete antijewish poster

Anonymous 11/08/2023 (Wed) 11:31 [Preview] No.18845 del
Аноньчик не сдавайся, я верю что ты добьёшься своего.

Anonymous 11/08/2023 (Wed) 14:48 [Preview] No.18847 del
Анончик, сдавайся, ты окружен.

Anonymous 12/06/2023 (Wed) 17:46 [Preview] No.18903 del
антисемиты пососут, как они сосут в жизни, только в интернете

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