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odilitime Board owner 11/18/2022 (Fri) 07:01 [Preview] No. 18267
So let me tell you about the recent outage of about 40mins

This post made about 3 years ago
https://endchan.org/nc/res/1.html#2

Triggered this email today


Hello,

We have created a support case on your behalf.

Subject: [Cybertip.ca Report #XXX] Notice Pertaining to Sexual, Harmful and/or Abusive Material of a Child
Message:

Cybertip.ca is Canada’s national tipline for reporting the online sexual exploitation of children. Cybertip.ca has become aware of content depicted on your service that is sexual, harmful and/or abusive involving a child. A child is defined as a person under the age of 18. We believe the content is abusive and/or harmful to the child in the image, and violates the child’s basic right to dignity, privacy, and safety, rights that are afforded to all children under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC). The content may also satisfy legal definitions of illegal material in some countries. It is our position that it is not in the best interests of the child(ren) depicted for the content to remain publicly available and we are requesting that you remove it from your service.

To enable you to quickly locate the content that is the subject of this notice Cybertip.ca is providing you with the following information:

hxxps://endchan.org/.media/6c586e369a300ce1064b1cd79576b1b3-imagejpeg.jpg

SHA1: RDXVG6SX3D5HEISZE75CLW24QBSYXWRC







(http has been replaced with hxxp to prevent accidental exposure)

We would also like to inform you that the content that is the subject of this notice pertains to a child who is either a victim whose child sexual images or videos that are known to police, or a victim who has been assessed to be under the age of 18 by our analysts who are trained in assessing signs of child development and sexual maturation. In either case, our position is that the content is harmful due to the context or location in which it is being made publicly available.

Should you have any questions regarding this notification, please contact
Cybertip.ca at [email protected]

Thank you for your cooperation.

This notification originates from Cybertip.ca, Canada's national tipline to report the online sexual exploitation of
children. Cybertip.ca is a program operated by the Canadian Centre for Child Protection Inc., and has been operational
since 2002. Cybertip.ca's role in Canada is to receive and analyze tips about potentially illegal material, namely child
sexual abuse and exploitation content or “child pornography”. This notification has been sent as it is believed that the
recipient has an interest in being informed about the nature of the content that may be depicted on the recipient’s
service and because the child depicted in the content may suffer damage from its continued availability. To request that
future notifications be communicated in a different manner, or to decline future notifications, please contact
[email protected]

Please take inform us if an action has been taken within the next 12 hours.


After a long conversation with Abuse, sounds like we've got them to change their policy when dealing with the Canadian government.
Edited last time by odilitime on 11/18/2022 (Fri) 07:03.


Anonymous 11/18/2022 (Fri) 18:56 [Preview] No.18268 del
>...our analysts who are trained in assessing signs of child development and sexual maturation
kek wtf


Anonymous 11/18/2022 (Fri) 19:04 [Preview] No.18269 del
>>18267
though, if you're not aware, the girl in that image is a famous CP star. the picture itself is likely part of a set that includes CP.


Anonymous 11/18/2022 (Fri) 20:09 [Preview] No.18270 del
>>18267
Why isn't the image deleted?


Anonymous Admin 11/19/2022 (Sat) 09:06 [Preview] No.18272 del
>>18269
Well, now we know.

>>18270
It's a girl standing there with a paper in her hand, and the context of the thread doesn't change that in unwanted directions. It didn't look anything for us.


Anonymous 11/19/2022 (Sat) 22:30 [Preview] No.18277 del
>>18272
>It didn't look anything for us.
I understand that it is as you have described in the context of that image. But it has since been clarified that it was a child who experienced abuse after that image, and the match to the image hash in the report further confirms it as being part of a child abuse collection. What's going to happen if the US Government sends a similar notification?


Anonymous 11/19/2022 (Sat) 23:24 [Preview] No.18278 del
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>>18267
>our position is that the content is harmful due to the context or location in which it is being made publicly available.
Interesting opinion, given Endchan administration's demonstrated hostility to CP. While there has been some cat and mouse games from CP raiders and suchlike, it all clearly shows Endchan stance. As said, the context of the thread and board show it was not a CP advocacy discussion.
That one post does feel like a drive-by cat and mouse troll though.
I think I'll fall back on my earlier reasoning regarding violent content posting on Endchan. I appreciate Odilitime stance and approach to free speech content. However, Endchan has a lot of other users and content that should be protected over and above one meaningless drive-by post.
>>18277
On the other hand, if he chooses to leave things be, it's probably best not to publicly commit to a course of action until someone pulls that trigger. Meanwhile, he could just point to the site's rules and history of active CP suppression, invite further user discussion, and wait.


Anonymous 11/20/2022 (Sun) 14:23 [Preview] No.18279 del
>>18277
>>18278
If you don't mind I don't separate my replies.
If our users wish the image deleted we aren't against it. On a quicker chan, on a more active board it was probably already gone.
It is still up, because the aforementioned facts still stand: the photo doesn't depict anything illegal, and the context of the thread and the posts around don't make it suggestive or "obscene". The intent of the poster might have been trolling, but trolling isn't illegal either. We don't promote csam with keeping it up, and if anything with this discussion started we might be able to raise awareness of existing problems.
Great example would be the cp spam Endchan is regularly attacked with - which we never hesitate to remove - , and from what I saw, read it seems other imageboards are effected by it too. I highly doubt any of our users interested in clicking those links, someone still run that spam again and again, for years now.
For now the image remains, the input from users are welcomed, basically any comment about the topic, if it should be taken down and why, or about the contents of the mail (>>18268 yeah, wtf; also >>18269 "cp star" wtf), or this organization which sent the mail, etc.
>US Government sends
Cybertip.ca doesn't seem like an institution of the Canadian government, what I can gather from the about pages, it looks like it is run by a private organization (although it is acknowledged and supported by Canadian govt. - so they claim, to what extent, it is not clear from a superficial read).
From us the US Govt. can sleep peacefully, we got their backs covered and do our job. I believe if we aren't quick enough, or a post with actual csam falls through the cracks, and don't get deleted in a significant amount of time, our users will make reports.


Anonymous Admin 11/20/2022 (Sun) 14:23 [Preview] No.18280 del
>>18279
Forgot role signature for validation.


Anonymous 11/21/2022 (Mon) 10:18 [Preview] No.18281 del
That's Masha. Do not image search her. You have to be familiar with CP to know she's involved in CP. Any idea from our Russian bros for what the sign says?


Anonymous 11/23/2022 (Wed) 21:53 [Preview] No.18282 del
>>18279
>basically any comment about the topic, if it should be taken down and why
My additional concerns are the further identification of what could be the victims name, potential location of the victim, and how to potentially find more content using a resource hosted by this site (>>18281). It is disgusting.



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