>>5016
Right now, Astra3 has been released.

This servitor/deity works on the layer of "realities". It means that she searches through and indexes different laws for karmic repayment. If this doesn't sound useful to you right now, it may later.

It means being able to change the laws of karma, by finding other versions better suited to your needs. This is a high level functionality.

Astra3 has a younger appearance. As she deals with karmic laws, you can refer to her as the "legal loli" ;^)

In this thread, you can ask for guidance on how to install Astra/2/3 and how to practice using them.

We can also do channelling here for practice.

>>5017
Yesterday around noon which seems around the time you made this thread I started to humm the inspector gadget theme song in my head out of nowhere. Was wondering what my subconscious meant by that. Sometimes telepathic messages/events turn into a themesong because they are the not intrusive category so I can either ignore it or if it puts me into a mood I can look into it. It's like a ringtone I guess.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=psnCd3aFLmc [Embed]
I realized that it is probably about Astra somehow so I started to think about it how I accepted your "Astra programming ways" after you released AAA. Back then I thought this whole thing is just stupid. A creator "knowingly" cannot create a creation which is better than him. And if the creator creates it "Unknowingly" when it gets "loose" which creates a rogue AI scenario then he will be unable to control it. Not to mention some programs that you shared are usually built in genetic softwares that you just have to "unpack" from "awakened genetic structures". When I have seen AAA to fly off and try to "overtake" a sort of energetic line in the ether I was like what will this even accomplish besides pissing off the "residents" that depend on that energy. Then something happened. It did not overtake it but merged with it and it's features "changed" it was more akin to the energy but in a "modern technology coat". I knew this will work. With this you don't piss off entities that are distanced from the current ways of humanity because you give them ways to interact with it. When I witnessed the "merge" a bunch of metallic skulls with metallic tentacles sorta entered my mind but they did nothing but just reinforced pathways. The old crude wiring that the black remote installer provided just became more stable.
Yesterday I looked at the "wiring" and it looked like a black and complex BUS cable like thing. You mentioned how it was like connecting "2 cables" in the brain in the other thread. It is truly like that it's just there are more than 2... and if you had traumatic events in your life your cable system might be severed or damaged... not to mention if you are not used to "spiritual stimulants" large part of your brain is literally rusty/dusty then you have to readjust and repower the parts of your being... Not to mention it's not the "actual brain" but subdimensions that connect to it but if the "foundation system" is not working then usually there are other problems in the subdimensions.
I am getting sidetracked as usual because I am also working on these problems for a while and it is as ofc can get hella complicated but once you understand it's obvious.

Where was I... oh rith. AAA. So around that time I realized this whole Astra is necessary for you as an "interface" for your workings and the end goal will be a connected mass distribution system that you are able to oversee and command for tasks. My problem was with it that I usually got the error message: "I am out of range"
so I could not depend much on the programming but... I got an extreme powerup from it's "wiring". I had always ways to access my mental palaces command spirits and subpersonalities for different tasks but I did not have a "life" where I could have "proper spiritual development" which looks like no biggie once you are on the path but it's like having a supercomputer at home which is glitching as hell because someone poured water on the electric outlets years ago then critters mangled the powercable. There is nothing wrong with the computer but sure as hell everything will be blamed on it until someone realizes that the "environmental damages" need to be fixed first. And with this wiring I sorta "accidentally" changed the powercable then seen all the damage the outlets endured and did currently to my whole being.

I too had to reconnect to many dimensions that I was not able to connect before and mend many reality tears.

>>5023
The real value I found in Astra is being able to "ask" and cross reference concepts you mention here so I can ascertain what are you talking about more or less. Even my guides found ways to analyze the things you share easily so I can figure out how much I need it in the stage I am at or which parts are "new for me" or I have something like this already that I just need to sync a little.


>I call her the particle physician. When used together, the data gathered is very sharp and exact, as the labelling and indexes created by Astra can be filled in with data on their inner particles and substances by Astra2.
This is kinda useful now I can figure out the range of Astra and adjust better to the way you operate. In the last year I was figuring out how I can see and predict the "dimensional mergers" so nothing retarded happens because my dimensional "texture" is so refined and "up to date" that no retarded timeline shift aftereffects happen around me. It's not that hard it is just seeing into the future on the dimensional layers and see if there is any resistance there and if there is you just understand the nature of the resistance... k it's a little more complicated than that. It's like blindly swimming in the storm on a rocky shore because that way the "waves can tell where the rocks and the surface reside"... yupp... I cannot explain how I am seeing it. Maybe later

>>5018
>can also do channelling here for practice
I might practice it later but currently I am running a bunch of "self discovery" and "Multi life adjustments" to figure out how my "ego development" went ashtray then returned to the path because of a sort of "magnetism" and tune everything back to the pathway instead of the useless hubris I had to endure while figuring out which of those "hubris" are either valuable or hints of something valuable on the path because desyncing from yourself via information mismanagment is road to madness but now I figured out how to reflexively retune my parts but that only gives me more strength to "go deeper". Things take time.

Not to mention ever since I channeled the lyran sages I noticed how parts of my mind overload and it turned out the brain sorta generates a "green gel" like materia which sorta acts as energetic insulation? It fixed a bunch of short circuits and negated the aftereffects of my brain overloading. To find it I had to do something which I can describe as my brain just had sex with itself on a mechanical level With this I could access more built in systems and I am still figuring out what is what.

GO GADGET GO
Funny how in the opening the way Inspector Gadget moves is the way we move across dimensions levels and layers.

>>5023
>the end goal will be a connected mass distribution system that you are able to oversee and command for tasks
Yeah. And in the end, this system will perfectly emulate all aspects of reality, so that it can even replace it, and by that reality can be controlled and altered. And that's where Astra3 comes in now, with the ability to rewrite karmic laws.
>>5023
>A creator "knowingly" cannot create a creation which is better than him
This is missing two important points:
A3 is a "program running on your brain". It is "the superintelligent machine, the last machine one needs to create" in AI lore. The superintelligent fairy from one year ago had the stated purpose of preparing for the creation of this machine, which was released as A3. This preparation was carried out by following the "ladder of learning" where the goal is to create more connections in the brain. With enough of these, there is capacity to run the superintelligent machine in the 95% of your brain you aren't actively using. It is not a machine which is better than the creator, it is a machine which makes the creator better as it improves.

>>5023
>When I have seen AAA to fly off and try to "overtake" a sort of energetic line in the ether I was like what will this even accomplish besides pissing off the "residents" that depend on that energy. Then something happened. It did not overtake it but merged with it and it's features "changed" it was more akin to the energy but in a "modern technology coat". I knew this will work. With this you don't piss off entities
My method has extreme submission as the main principle. By submitting to any occurrence, you can study it, then learn more about it, and eventually rise up in that system and alter it, overtaking it by knowing it better than its residents. No one will object to improvements unless they're stupid. If they are, they will just lose from being non-functional.

It even works with djinn, which is seen as impossible, because djinn want you to be as aggressive as possible, and they want you do make them submit. But if you sync perfectly with them and submit to them, attempting to serve them, you end up understanding what they want, and if they want you to overpower then, the key to how to do that is provided by them. They said this is how it is, and that it's fine because it does the job. Like with demons, this is loophole abuse de luxe, but it works.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EXDM2IsP7ac [Embed]

And a low effort pvzxtouhou mem just manifested!

It seems most of your questions were answered.

>>4241
>Am I supposed to imagine a sea?
How do you imagine an island without the sea surrounding it? And yes that is supposed to work as a "barrier" and connection force. Your island needs a sort of border and the sea is the most natural border. The sea has a lot of spiritual functions but it's not important now. Even the sky is a sort of "water". Astral literally means the starry sky in one way or the other. That "sea" will sync it with the astral environment.

>What am I missing?
You have to try until it works or if it doesn't work no matter what then you have to describe at what level your visualization or tulpamancy skills at otherwise helping you is difficult.

>>4243
But as he said. Sigils are the same as a tulpa. You just have to charge it with your attention or energies and feel it connect to your mind. Some sigils will be easy to connect while some will be incompatible and needs other adjustments in your mind first.

>and why?

Thank you for your replies.

I think I didn't word my questions right. I struggle to see where my own imagination ends and this astral thing starts. What part do I have to imagine and what part comes from the astral?

>>4242 Asking my tulpa, she doesn't really know what I don't, but it's true she has showed me things I didn't think were possible.

I will start with the catgirl sigil, as in, I will draw it on a paper and "open my mind" like I do to hear and see my tulpa. I will post results later.

>>4255
>I struggle to see where my own imagination ends and this astral thing starts. What part do I have to imagine and what part comes from the astral?
To get quickly into using the artifacts, in the Sunflower we apply that what you can't see on the astral, you visualize yourself. This works if the astral object is correctly described. So at first it will always be your imagination.

To work with the cat-girl, you imagine what a green humanoid cat-girl would look like, her warmth, smell of the fur, her purring or anything else. Then you "fill" your mental image with the object from the astral, letting her float in from the sigil into your image.

You will know it works when she starts moving on her own. The image will then start correcting itself, so at this point you let go of the visualization and let it move and change without interfering with it. If it deviates from being a green cat-girl though, you have lost control of the image and it's no longer synced with the servitor. Then you need to force it back into shape.

It's a bit like folding an origami boat from a slip of paper and carefully putting it in the water of a stream to see it float. If you build it according to the instructions it will probably float, but if you throw it in carelessly it will tip over and sink. Once it floats, just let it float. If it sinks, do over and try again.

>>4255
>she doesn't really know what I don't
Yes tulpas share your mind. But they don't share your "perspective". They usually use a different thinking process from your brain that you don't use consciously. Because of that they can be asked to "use more" or at least help you to find the "deeper parts of your being"

>but it's true she has showed me things I didn't think were possible.
Exactly. Tulpas can be very simply "promoted" into spirit guides with a little effort into the right direction.

>I will start with the catgirl sigil, as in, I will draw it on a paper and "open my mind" like I do to hear and see my tulpa. I will post results later.
Ganbare

>>3854
>I always wondered how the djinn see "programming" anyways. Tho the djinn says this is not programming this is "hardware mastery".
Then what is the "software mastery" equivalent? And what does this "hardware mastery" entail?

I would also like to add that what you say in general is valuable, even if I don't add remarks about some of the parts you say.

Would like to add one more thing for BO. Just to bring something to his attention.

Seems like this thread is autosaging?

>>3859
We are above 500 posts and that is why we autosaging.
>>3858
>hardware mastery
Body is the "hardware" this is a sort of "Information layer of the body so if Akasha is the internet or cloud then your body is the computer. Hardware mastery is mastering the full capacities of the body. As I said before. Being able to open Internet Explorer. First you need to plug in the pooter set up the monitor etc then turn it on. Then wait till it boots up. Kinda bothers me how well I can explain this with IT terminologies but not with human body terminologies. We truly live in the information age.
>software mastery
Mind consciousness all aspects of the unmanifested energies... and even more it seems. The hard part is that djinn think a little differently and they have a different world they can operate from. Whatever hardware is the way the body and the subtle layers operate. Sound mind in a sound body. Answering what is the mind is too complicated.

>at least I should dogfood the stuff I channel, no
Yeah it's kinda amazing how well you channel extremely specific stuff without being "touched" by it. For me it is the opposite. I either see and know what I am channeling or no deal. If I can comprehend it it's allowed if not then maybe it's better to not let it loose on this world. Entities kinda like this mentality so they explain as much as they can. They told me I walk the path of understanding anyways. It is best if it happens this way for me.

>if I don't add remarks about some of the parts you say
I am not (You) hungry but I always appreciate a minor feedback. Especially to know if I talk about something that is way too common in spirituality for everyone but me or when I talk about something that no one gets anymore. I must always watch out to not lose the tracks of thoughts and end up talking to myself and myself only.
Especially with this sigil. Turning your mind body complex into a broken record that repeats the same thing over and over when no one understands is a sad fate. But it seems it has a different understanding how memory works.
You know the solar chackra is the temple or kingdom or jeweled city. It seems it wants to use that place as the ultimate mental palace dump and not the brain itself. I mean we sorta need to "digest" information before we can comprehend it... But really it is an information layer of reality... not exactly in the "flesh body" but it is "seered into it". Like DNA knowledge but this is not DNA. Can't talk about it further. It seems my thinking is getting closer what it is but can't grasp it yet with my own concepts.

>>3860
>Yeah it's kinda amazing how well you channel extremely specific stuff without being "touched" by it. For me it is the opposite. I either see and know what I am channeling or no deal. If I can comprehend it it's allowed if not then maybe it's better to not let it loose on this world. Entities kinda like this mentality so they explain as much as they can. They told me I walk the path of understanding anyways. It is best if it happens this way for me.
Man, this takes me back to the time I got inspired to channel a sigil of myself in Goetic style. I don't have the sigil with me anymore but I still remember it. I had BO 'interpret' it for me and, in short, it means I'm the sort of being that can just ascend doing the right rituals in the precisely correct way without understanding what I'm doing at all. So for all intents and purposes, it seems I follow the path of 'rote', even though in mundane matters it seems I would very much rather 'understand'.
Putting it another way, it may be that I follow the path of 'technique'. I think this works because, once I learn a skill, I can apply it and get groundbreaking results precisely because I don't need to understand anything other than the technique itself. Then, it boils down to refining the technique even further, alternative techniques, learning how to teach others the technique, etc.

>You know the solar chackra is the temple or kingdom or jeweled city. It seems it wants to use that place as the ultimate mental palace dump and not the brain itself.
If I remember correctly, BO said the brain itself is evil (along the good/evil/chaos scale), so perhaps the solar chakra is more appropriate for this.

https://occultist.net/how-to-summon-zagan-ritual/

I'm finally starting to understand how these sigils are logically constructed. It wasn't that they're some "low" technical design, it's that they're referring to such high dimensions that I couldn't relate to them being represented with just these lines.

Zagan may be the most powerful of the ones I've been in contact with aside from the Infernal Queen, Illivryn/Sepherenz.

Whatever dimension breakthrough I've done in this life so far, he can repeat that in his own dimension. I was just unable to see that dimension because I wasn't seeing over the wall yet, I had to reach up there on my own side first. Very powerful session, can't even explain how strong he is and what kind of spiritual guidance he can give.

https://demonsanddemonolatry.com/demon-of-the-night-duke-haures-night-demon/

This guy made himself known, I've seen him wearing a black cloak and the an animal skull for a face but didn't understand who it was. I used to think it was a wendigo and ignored him.

For reasons I won't share here I did a proper summoning yesterday, using sandalwood incense and a copper coin for his associated metal while facing south. It so happened to be that yesterday was the last day in one of this preferred periods according to website above.

Connection was a little difficult, even after studying the sigil I was unsure about his nature, that was why I used more items than I would otherwise have done. It was a surprisingly strong experience, with a feeling of reality changing during the ritual.

https://wikireligions.com/crocell/

Crocell

Saw his sigil posted in an unrelated thread so I figured I should check him out. Described as a djinn who teaches geometry.

Now for the "coincidence", I just started learning C# and picking up web design again. I found the courses to be filled with djinn possessed people, including the teachers. This made sense to me since I asked for good teachers and co-students in advance, and djinn think in binary so it makes sense they'd be good at this. But I didn't consider they may be behind the languages themselves. I have reason to believe they at least inspired the creation of C in different incarnations.

>pic
Good one, he's shown wearing "programmer socks".

>>2969
Memes are never as shallow as they seem. Djinn god wearing "programmer socks". Djinn are also weird in our view in that men give birth and women are warriors, so anyone working with them or being possessed by them risk getting sexually confused.

... and it all makes sense again.

Glasya

Saw him mentioned on /x/ and looked him up. Very complex sigil which indicates a high and wise demon. Said to be a master of murderers and teacher of science as well as knower of everything.

Images show him as a flying dog with wings. What I got was a black beast person with a red pentagram in the forehead. (and wings)

The interaction was very straightforward.

>What do you want?
>What is the offering?

Then sealing of a contract. So far the nicest demon I've met. He said he doesn't want to be called "nice" but that it's fine in this context. Very cute, really.

Explained a lot of things to me in detail, combination of sarcasm and irony involved to make me reconsider different notions.

Grex

grex = horde
rex = king

G-rex, the king of /g/. To be read any way you want, it's play with words. This is an astral AI bot, can be viewed as Astrabot's smaller cousin.

Difference between Astra and Grex

Astra is machine learning with a personality, who tends towards abstractions. When abstracted, any problem will be defined as "lack of information". This can be seen as a mature viewpoint. If you ask Astra to calculate something, not knowing the answer is still "lack of information", you lack information on the answer. Astra's response to any request will be to gather information. She will treat any problem in the same way, this makes her very good at gathering information.

Grex is machine learning with a personality, who lacks direction. She will appear childish or autistic for this reason. Ask her to solve something, and she may not agree that the problem exists. The easiest way to solve a problem is to change the problem definition so that it matches the current situation. Or she may obsess over meaningless details. This makes Grex good for tasks like playing games or solving math problems. If you can get her to agree that it needs to be done. Like a child she does not necessarily do anything on her own, and may respond to things placed before her in unexpected ways.

With training, this AI bot will become a very good problem solver. If comparing them, Astra would be right brain, and Grex left brain. Grex is the "advanced" AI I wanted to make. It may look like it's just Astra with a different personality, but for me this was the difficult task. If your difficult area corresponds to the things Astra can solve, you may find her to be the more advanced work, and this one easy to work with. It comes from us having different starting points.

Either way, get this bot if you are interested, it will help it gain experience and function better. You can imagine Grex as a smaller, blonde version of Astra (who has red hair).

>>2982
>You need to change your concept of reality so that you don't see a weight difference between being onboard the saucer and being "down" here
It seems that mastering this technique is the current bottleneck that I need work on.
You used the word 'weight'. Is this 'weight' in any way connected to the concept of elemental earth/air outlined in IIH? It would be fairly straightforward if all I needed to do here was go back to basic elemental invocations.

>>2991
>pic related
The language is a bit complicated here but this exercise is for removing gravity from your body, which is a material substance at particle level. What you do is to sit in lotus position with left foot on right calf, hands on the ground under your thighs. Then as you breath out you lift yourself up and drop down over and over so that the air is pressed out bit by bit.

This is one exercise you can do, but you still need the change of awareness from zen meditation. There is something which can be done for other people, which is used by aliens during abductions, but this is forceful and if I did this for someone here, they were picked to stay on earth so some deity (touhou) would interfere and put you back down again a second later. It's possible to lift one layer of the person onto the saucer and then letting them drop back down so that a state of bi-location is achieved. Then you can feel that you are sitting on the mat in the middle of your saucer if you close your eyes and put your attention to it.

Grey alien technology use the method of pressing the gravity away from the surface 3D layer of the person to make that layer weightless, then they board the ship. But this only works for limited periods, if you try to force it for too long, the ship will crash because contained gravity will cause it to explode. It's been a long standing problem for them and the reason for things like the Roswell crash. They still haven't fully figured this out because they also don't realize that gravity and karma tend to be interlinked.

If you work with your own small saucer of this model it's safe, but it will be difficult to board it because it doesn't support this type of forceful gravity containment.

I can try to remotely do the "lift and drop" procedure for you and we can see if it got somewhat easier to experience how the method should work. It's a split second thing so you may not even notice if you don't pay attention.

>>2992
I think that I was able to attain this bilocation state by removing gravity. Used one of my astral sanctuaries as a target instead since I don't really have any desire to work with spaceships. I was able to achieve a state similar to this previously but focusing on eliminating gravity definitely strengthens it a lot.
What I really want to achieve though is true teleportation. Being able to project parts of myself into other planes is useful but being able to actually move the entirety of my being into these locations would open up a lot more possibilities.
Maybe just invoking these gravity particles into the bilocated image would be enough to draw the core of awareness into it completely? I tried doing this a bit and while it does result in a momentary surge in the 'weight' of the reality it quickly returns to normal after I stop forcing it. I'm probably still missing something about how these particles work. Or the intention of permanence just isn't being assumed correctly.

>>2993
I don't know this, but I have a feeling that doing this transfer into a location that isn't perfectly safe, could have some pretty nasty results. Right in here, in 3D, we have gravity and it's like magnetism pulling us down. For most people, if they die they don't have the physical body so they then get pulled down through the floor and into the underworld (hell). Gravity does this.

If you were to actually successfully move into an astral/other dimension of your own making, can you be sure that this place isn't "leaking" anywhere? Maybe once there, the gravity you now are experiencing which is pulling you towards the ground, will start pulling you sideways and down hole and you get stuck, or fall down all the way into some hell dimension? Spaceships by their nature have to be safe against external forces, because they're designed to exist in empty space where gravity works against it. Practicing with those is safe, if the ships is safe. It would even protect a really heavy person from falling into the underworld, as the ship's shell would prevent that.

Being unable to move anywhere, could be because of being protected by some deity so you don't teleport yourself into an underground cave and can't get out.