Both are toxic, no doubt, but if I am forced to cope with one or another, I'm always going to choose booze. Unless, that is, I get my hands on sedatives like barbiturates or benzos, I'm open to substituting booze when I can because it is so toxic. Fuck taking toxic shit like SSRIs that do fuck nothing to make you feel better by the way. If you are going to poison yourself at least have a reason to do so, to feel good.

Back in the day, there was ONE sole reason you took medication and that was the same reason people always drank booze: to temporarily feel good.

Now days tons of idiots are taking toxic low-grade pseudo-meds like SSRIs that don't make them feel good, hell even worse, dumbing down their brain so much they can't even think right.

If you are going to take drugs stick with booze, or the real stuff. Stop being sissies. Fuck this fake and gay medical establishment.

>>79943
have you seen the amazing tucker calrsosn interview with the professional patient laura delano? it would be right up your alley!

>>79956
Just jerk your weenie to even more porn.

Hemp derived weed is available pretty much everywhere and it's a much better alternative to booze, and a much MUCH better alternative to that psych med bullshit. I despise my dad's side of the family so much for being a bunch of weaklings that rely on that bullshit to drown out their real emotions.

>>79943
Going to therapy feels gay as hell. Even though it looks kind of cool in my animes

>>79962
The only problem I have with smoking weed is that, if you do it everyday for many years straight the THC builds up in your system and can cause legit schizophrenia just like doing too much acid or other hard substance. Not everyone experiences this but many do and have to quite smoking the stuff. I do agree it is a lot better than booze and psyche meds though.

>>79964
>can cause legit schizophrenia

i have heard this repeated many times but never by anyone who has even the slightest clue on how a human psychologically actually splits personality and why; even though i agree with not overdoing it generally consider it bullshit. all this talk about schizophrenia i don't see related to weed, people get schizophrenia because the related unconsciousness serves a utilitarian purpose in the life of the person.

a personality splits when a person is in denial about a reality and does not have the freedom to build distance to the reality, thus is forced to experience it even though intends to deny it. if you have to work with someone you hate and you are trapped in working conditions so non-consensual that you can not find a way not to work with that person than a normal person will invent a pretend personality to deal with the asshole.

weed might make it worse but regardless of weed, every 'normal' person not interested in mental health will be made mentally unhealthy by normality, it is as simple as that. normality is a mental unhealth accellerator.

>>79967
Again THC build-up does not effect everyone the same way. There are heavy smokers that have used for decades and just get a lot dumber and fatter over the years. A certain percentage get intolerance from too much THC and it can really mess with their minds and drive them into internal panic and paranoia. Honestly I think benzos would be better for those types of people who do start to experience schizophrenia. The problem is doctors no longer prescribe that to just anyone (like they used to back in the day). Now days any kind of sedative, no matter how mild, is overly fucking regulated, and doctors often discourage use of benzos or refuse to prescribe them. I was once willing to stop drinking and I wanted something to reduce the withdrawals and help me sleep for example. Doctor declined, so I told her I won't put down the bottle unless I have something to reduce the withdrawals and fix my insomnia. Her response? Basically didn't care, keep drinking, "fuck you" attitude. It pissed me off, so I no longer visit that doctor anymore. So yah, even if you have real problems anything that is worth a damn is basically out of reach for most people. SO you got weed, you got booze or you have to get something else illegally now, that's the options you have in this shithole third world "healthcare" system. They basically doom you to die, they don't care.

>>79974

thc is like a curious friend. it asks questions that you prefer not to answer because it wants you to be honest. when you are normality based mental gymnastics while you are involved in evil employment, the thc is gonna demand to have a word with you. that's all it is. the reaosn this does not effect me the same way is because i don't commit the fatal mistake of living a lie.

i am in love with myself and when i consume weed it feels like a warm hug from nature. like personal encouragement from the gods "hey i know everything looks like shit but keep going, luck will continue to be in your favor, no need to lose hope just because everything sucks."

>>79945
Fuck mental hospitals as well.

>>79963
Those are sadly fake. Even in music videos

>>79976
>>79977
If it works for you that's good. For me unfortunately, it's either booze or sedatives.

>>79978
Society itself is one big mental hospital today.

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>>79983
I was meaning: forced medicine down your throat, locked in a room, forced sedation if you don't do what the crooked nurse says.

>>79991
I'll be honest and say only the very worst people of society deserve such treatment, like mass murderers, serial rapists, arsonists who have destroyed lives and livelihoods, assholes who brazenly commit treason against their own populations too (some politicians would definitely fit this category). It should only be reserved for the worst of the worst inhumane treacherous bastards.

>>79999
>I'll be honest

AS OPPOSED TO HOW YOU USUALLY CHOOSE TO BE?!

>>79982
>If it works for you that's good. For me unfortunately, it's either booze or sedatives.

what else are your mental health efforts, tell me i will respond in good faith only.

i think the biggest mistake people do in mental health is not consider themselves the ultimate authority and try to fix themselves through their own experimentation. don't let yourself be seduced by typical group behavior and hoping for some expert to fix you, you have to be the expert!

>>80001
I don't see mental health to be a problem with me. That is the whole irony of it all, why do people equate drug addiction or alcoholism with insanity and mental problems? Is it really so "insane" being able to just fucking enjoy yourself intoxicated? I like it that way. In many ways I need it, it helps me cope and be a better person. I can be a real asshole when sober too long. I do not see anything wrong with a dude who needs to drink to relax, or someone who pops some "sleeping pills" to rest. Why is that a bad thing? What does that have to do with mental health?

>>80000
I never liked the idea of torture. As I get older I learned to realize there are people so fucking evil, so hell-bent and ill-willed.... it makes me consider otherwise sometimes.

>>80007
1/4
Everything became a mental health issue over the years because it's a multi-billion dollar industry to sell crap "medication" to the masses and gatekeep all the real drugs for the "elites" and wealthy privileged few. That is the true reason.

>>80007
>>80009
2/5
If alcohol was not so toxic that too would have been long banned and prohibited. The only reason it is allowed is because it culls the masses and makes a lot of cancer profits off abusers. It is a hard truth to swallow and what is worse is "no one cares" so nothing gets better.

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>>80010
3/5
Back when America really cared about personal responsibility, consumer choice, the free market, individual freedom, "the good 'ol days", you could buy cocaine and sedatives legally without a doctor prescription. In the 1950s they started to restrict it to a required doctor prescription although the ability to get drugs was still very lax and easy, most doctors wrote them out to anyone requesting for whatever silly reasons.

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>>80011
4/5
As the decades came and gone shit got a lot more restrictive, bureaucracies took over. Then, by the 1990s, shit started turning into a nanny state. By the late 2000s, forget it, all kinds of drugs are prohibited for all kinds of reasons, no matter you suffer from whatever. Now days? Broken leg? Too bad, go take some Aspirin and shut up useless eater. It is all about CONTROL. As with everything these shitty days of a dying empire.

5/5 tld glow niggers

>>80000
Meds now or rape.

Eggs, Fish, Turmeric, Yogurt, Ginseng, Kale, Mushrooms, nuts contain things your brain wants. Sugar is toxic. Saturated fats in animal products is toxic. Fructose causes cancer. Alcohol is toxic. Caffeine (only 1 cup or quit). Processed oils in packaged food could be inflammatory by the time you get it.
Vitamin C (250mg or less) will detox you from some metals. CoQ10, creatine, some herbs like Ginseng are probably going to work. People are lazybugs.

>>80015
I do take a lot of health supplements and vitamins and maintain a keto diet (limit carbs and totally avoid sugar). The only exception to sugar is alcohol, which I require now and then as a functional alcoholic. Yes I have confronted doctors about it being honest with them, willing to stop drinking albeit I'm going to require some form of sedative for the insomnia and withdrawals and none so far are willing to prescribe me what I need to get off the bottle. This 'healthcare' system is absolutely fucking broken. They'd literally rather me drink my liver away then help me get off the bottle by prescribing what the patient needs. Our "healthcare" system ABSOLUTELY SUCKS in modern America. Way too overly-regulated, sticks up all their asses, fear of their own shadows. So far the only thing I can do is try to limit how much I drink at night time, keep a healthy diet, take my vitamins and health supplements and PRAY I don't end up with liver cirrhosis. I can't tell you how much I hate this government, the politicians, the corporations and the institutions they have hijacked.

>>80014
>Meds now or rape.

bitch i am right, why would you point out that you are honest, that invalidates how you talk usually. there is no defending this just shut your whore mouth.

>>80007
>why do people equate drug addiction or alcoholism with insanity and mental problems? Is it really so "insane" being able to just fucking enjoy yourself intoxicated?

i don't equate it but alcohol is for idiots but i defend your right to be one.

>>80009
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6PdWKkyooCk [Embed]

watch this, this is amazing.

>>80010
>If alcohol was not so toxic that too would have been long banned and prohibited.

oh you don't know how bad things are if you have confidence in the system left...

I have never met anyone souped up on these shitty meds who wasn't an unsettling mess.

>>80029
No, alcohol is a legal far cheaper alternative to real drugs you cannot get easily or legally. It is a poor man's drug that has similar properties to sedatives. Just like smoking crack is a poor man's cocaine high.

why not both

alcohol solo is boring af, maybe if u low iq then u can enjoy it solo idk

>>79943
Just eat healthy and avoid heavily-processed goyslop; meat, veggies and fruits. Don't smoke, do drugs or drink alcohol, and please masturbate to a minimum, also clean your room.

>>80060
why clean room

>>80038

alcohol is garbage. it traps revolutionary energy. it makes you accept injustice. it ruins your health. you drink it in your own worst interest. it makes ugly, corrupt, unlovable, hostile-minded women of disgrace appear more human. it helps evil groups take advantage of idiots. it gives assholes an excuse to overstep other people's boundaries.

>>80060
You think I still live with my parents? No, I inherited the farm house. No one tells me what to do anymore, I'm a grown adult and decide what I will put into my body. I do eat healthy. Unfortunately I have an alcohol addiction. I'd be willing to give up the alcohol once I find a doctor willing to give me medicine for the insomnia and withdrawals. So far, so it seems, all doctors are distrustful fucking bitches and bastards. No one seems to trust an alcoholic even though I've been 100% honest about my addiction and wanting to stop and my need for medication to do so. The level of bigotry, discrimination and bias in this country is fucking incredible and very sad. I bet if I went to a third world country I'd actually get better care and the medicine I need lol.

it is the drug for people who are going to have a life not worth living. look at the old ones who drank it all their life. it is the drug for husbands, employees, henchmen and others who never found how to live life enjoyably.

>>80064
>I'm a grown adult and decide what I will put into my body.

grown adult tantrum

>>80066
So you rather me just drink than get the medicine I need to quite too? Yet you complain how bad it is? Which is it with you bigots?

One would fucking think, if doctors were really sincere, they would actually help people stop drinking by giving them medicine for the insomnia and withdrawals. But, ironically and hypocritically so, they say no and will not trust their own patients. So then, what is the point of going to a doctor if there is no trust anymore?

i agree with you that it is important to be an adult make the decisions in your life. still i mock you.

>>80068
> So then, what is the point of going to a doctor if there is no trust anymore?

i wouldn't go to a doctor, if you still trust doctors you are asleep.

>>80065
I really do believe people like you don't want others to quite. You are perfectly fine with people dying because of your bigotry and discrimination. Don't worry, you are not alone in this cruel world, many many people just like you out there who like to kick others when they are down. All too common in USSA Today.

>>80069
I can quite, but I need medicine to do so. Mocking does no good, it does not address the problems we have with the current 'healthcare' system.

>>80070
I wish I could, I wanted to. The problem is, they did not trust me even though I was 100% honest and polite as can be. I felt like I am in a room with some demon who has no mercy, no soul.

>>80071

don't make this about me. idiots are gonna harm themselves. why make it any more complicated or accuse me of anything. that'll change nothing.

"We really think you should quite drinking, alcohol is terrible for you, but NO we will not give you medicine to reduce the withdrawals or help you sleep without it, sorry but you're on your own, too bad for you!" Fucking assholes.

>>80072
>it does not address the problems we have with the current 'healthcare' system.

you can just be as healthy as you can.

>>80075
>you're on your own, too bad for you!" Fucking assholes

you are on your own, stop being a female about it and get good at being on your own.

>>80076
Yep, I'm trying to be, it's my only option after all. Best I'm gonna get in this failed state third world shithole.

>>80077
Well, they COULD help me out if they really wanted to, but in reality they do not want to help another nigger out. So whatever, fuck them.

>>80078

yeah that's your best option. find out how to be healthy and then do it.

>>80079
>Well, they COULD help me out if they really wanted to

no they just wanna act like they are your friends without being friendly so you keep falling for them.

>>80081
They are not supposed to be our friends, true, but what they are is physicians and physicians are supposed to TRUST their patients and prescribe medicine when needed. That is their job, the job they refuse to do these days. What in the fuck happened to our healthcare system?

This country has turned into a cruel joke. Nothing and no one to trust anymore. Glad I'm getting old, I'll be dead in the next 20 years anyway and good fucking riddance. Shithole.

>>80083
i've said it before, i say it again. stop being a female. the place you live in is a theater and you have to do the caring for yourself. many will pretend, nobody will do it.

>>80085
So then, what are doctors really for? Just another fucking racket and scam? Would not surprise me in the least. Everything today seems to be that way in the USSA.

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>>80091
It's working, dipshit

>>80096
everything is fake and gay in the no longer great ussa very true

time for your meds, anon