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QTDDTOT Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 01:09:01 [Preview] No. 2603
Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 01:19:32 [Preview] No.2604 del
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Any thoughts on http://blessyahowah.com/
(Has to do with deliberate mistranslations of God's name in the New Testament)

>Their Own Threads
*Their Own Thread

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 06:36:33 [Preview] No.2609 del
>Participation in any religion makes one God's enemy.
<pushes a religion
>The Creator Himself personally condemns by name the self-proclaimed "apostle to the Gentiles" and founder of the Christian religion, Paul, aka Sha'uwl of Tarsus.
<denies much of the New Testament
>There are three possible destinies for the human soul, not just two, as the most popular religions teach.
Chapter and verse?

Looking around their website, it's oozes of cult like behavior, like say insisting that the name of God is a pronunciation and therefore those that believe in a different name in a different language is not the same God despite being a valid translation. A name to God can only describe an attribute but not God in and of itself that is beyond descriptions. In a similar sense, God is not bound to one specific religion. What kind of an evil "God" would grant salvation to only one specific tribe? The reason why many Christians and even Jews insist that at a certain point humanity was of one people and one language via Babylon under Nimrod which Abram (brahma) fled from, as well prior to the flood which Noah escaped from. In a sense, escaping destruction is always their theme, which the rapture concept is also a sense of escape of destruction which can only be done through the escape of their own "sins" which also can only be done through blaming it on the blameless one which Jesus Christ represents the sacrificial atonement practices in imputing one's sins into an innocent animal to psychologically accept their own failures as not a part of who they are for it's dead. This is also why Catholics rationalize the passover feast communion bread to be the literal body of christ whom they perpetually keep him dead on the cross, so that they can then also justify their own incompetency to Jesus Christ. This blame game had been shifted to blaming the Jews in /pol/ as their means of their existential "salvation", therefore, justifies murdering of Jews since it would make their immediate physical lives better, so the means to that physical salvation is also justified for the "greater good". The blame cult cannot build society based on the foundation of all that is true, because they still think that there needs something to be blamed for the mortal condition when in reality, their very existence is without cognitive blame, nobody can really blame others for existing just as they can't really blame themselves for also existing. There is no "original sin", no prima causa. There's no condemnation to those that seek to make babies as much as there's no condemnation to those that can't make babies from a divine viewpoint, though there is a practicality blame put onto others like saying that it's impractical to not make babies if we want to have a sustaining population with an equally sustainable culture and ideals that was cultivated through time.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:10:16 [Preview] No.2610 del
>blaming it on the blameless [...]
>This blame game had been shifted to blaming the Jews in /pol/ as their means of their existential "salvation", therefore, justifies murdering of Jews since it would make their immediate physical lives better, so the means to that physical salvation is also justified for the "greater good".
Are you implying that Jews are blameless? Also most honest people on /pol/ do not blame Jews* simply for being Jews, it's just that Jews are almost always over-represented in movements, agendas, groups that seek our demise (Communism, Cultural Marxism, Usury, etc.). Most of the people on there only identify the Jew as a (big) problem, plus killing Jews is not on most of their agendas nor was it on Hitler's or National Socialism's agenda.

* What I do think is irrational is blaming Jews for being born Jews, they cannot change the fact that they're considered Jews even though they have distanced themselves from the religion, the cult, the "Jewish State", the Jewish agenda.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:22:06 [Preview] No.2611 del
>The blame cult cannot build society based on the foundation of all that is true
Agreed, it also doesn't give one hope.
>nobody can really blame others for existing just as they can't really blame themselves for also existing.
Right, but you can blame other's for seeking the demise of other peoples. Blame doesn't have to be irrational.
>There is no "original sin", no prima causa.
Agreed. But you have to understand, the Talmud teaches exactly that, that non-Jew is inherently "sinful" and you are allowed to enslave them, deceive them, rape them, murder them, they consider a non-Jew lower than an animal (or cattle).

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:24:05 [Preview] No.2612 del
Where's your brain?

>In a sense, escaping destruction is always their theme, which the rapture concept is also a sense of escape of destruction which can only be done through the escape of their own "sins" which also can only be done through blaming it on the blameless one which Jesus Christ represents the sacrificial atonement practices in imputing one's sins into an innocent animal to psychologically accept their own failures as not a part of who they are for it's dead.


Most honest people on /pol/ that are truly "red pilled" will say that if they were a Jew, they would kill themselves for being one because they hate the Jews that much. Most dishonest people that aren't red pilled wouldn't ever go out of their way to kill a Jew under any circumstance besides immediate self defense reasons for as long as the current system doesn't go full on overt race war mode which nobody knows for certain what would really happen for the case of a country like the US.

There are no such thing as a good Jew under any circumstances according to real /pol/ which this chan does have and does reflect that sentiment.

So are you going to go out of your way to kill a Jew in hatred?

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:39:29 [Preview] No.2613 del
Any rationalization of hatred to justify your actions is a failure to kill someone without any attachment to them or without any self destruction placed upon yourself in burning up your own vital force. The evil Jews will be weakened by sheer divine necessity, but what the hell are you going to do with the self hating Jews when Zionism which was a movement that was started by self hating Jews became co-opted by religious zealots that are bent on decimating a foreign land that never was theirs as they systematically take over Palestine? With the pretext of being anti Jewish, they push pro Jewish movements, infiltrate various organizations, and get people murdered like GLR. Can you really do them a favor to kill them even if they don't want to die just because who they are associated with are generally evil all without harboring hate? I doubt it.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:40:11 [Preview] No.2614 del
>Most honest people on /pol/ that are truly "red pilled" will say that if they were a Jew, they would kill themselves for being one because they hate the Jews that much.
Guess you have been interacting with shills too much. Let me say this, I don't like the "every Jew is bad" thing, I know it is not true and it is a retarded statement.
>There are no such thing as a good Jew [according to real /pol/]
I don't think there's a real /pol/ nor does /pol/ define itself as anything but "Politically Incorrect" which is how I see it, politically incorrect. But I know and every well-thinking person knows that there are good Jews.
>So are you going to go out of your way to kill a Jew in hatred?
I don't have hatred first of all, and I wouldn't kill anyone.

But then again, do not dismiss the fact of their over-representation in movement, groups, or systems that seek our enslavement and destruction.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:45:09 [Preview] No.2615 del
Uh no, AdolfHitler isn't a shill, he's a good Board Volunteer.

>I don't have hatred first of all, and I wouldn't kill anyone.
Passive tolerance is what's going to destroy the white race.
>But then again, do not dismiss the fact of their over-representation in movement, groups, or systems that seek our enslavement and destruction.
I never did, you just don't get it. The Jews use spies and assassins, yet taking the high road through the ZOG system won't get rid of them.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:55:13 [Preview] No.2616 del
>Passive tolerance is what's going to destroy the white race.
So what are you suggesting me to do, hate and murder?
>taking the high road through the ZOG system won't get rid of them.
Agreed. Though, I guess I don't have a good enough picture of the "ZOG system" in order not to take their "high road".

The only reason I visit /pol/ or /horror/ is because I seek knowledge, and dislike censorship. But I do not endorse /pol/, the platforms that host /pol/ boards, its moderators, or its regulars. I haven't found a good substitute platform for discussing the Jewish conspiracy against humanity (Freemasonry is Jewish as well).

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:56:33 [Preview] No.2617 del
To protect what you love is not done through harboring hatred against your enemies. A concept that is lost in the modern world.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:58:44 [Preview] No.2618 del
>discussing the Jewish conspiracy against humanity
Then again, discussing only problems facing us isn't constructive, and doesn't give hope. You need an identity in order to fight for your people or yourself, otherwise you have no reason to defend yourself.
Precisely, I understand what you're getting at.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 14:59:28 [Preview] No.2619 del
I'm not suggesting actual hatred, but murder isn't automatically hatred or evil. Is killing Communists evil? If so, you are not a warrior but a coward.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:00:53 [Preview] No.2620 del
Sure, being attacked and not fighting back is cowardice.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:11:50 [Preview] No.2621 del
If you even remotely love your nation, by even nationalism itself you can justify the murder of infiltrators that seek to undermine your nation as long as you've got the proof of conspiracy of them plotting against you, you can "disarm" them from carrying out that act before it happens one way or the other, which the other is of course have a higher risk of death. Treason is what many "evil Jews" are wholly guilty of and many times get away with, but then there's the question of how much are you willing to risk for your own country assuming that you are placed in this very situation in having the paper trail and intel and all the proof in the world that this would go down, as well as the means to prevent it from happening. Of course it's not really a relatable situation for most people, but some people had similar experiences well in a different context in dealing with bad people, but I had people gang up on me before and I've prevented certain things from happening in my life howbeit not like death threat levels but still, my point is, can you attack them before they attack you even if you didn't have much to go by but enough to go with your instincts of survival?

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:18:50 [Preview] No.2622 del
In the flipside, I really do think that Jews are going by instinct in trying to take over what isn't theirs. Why is it evil if we REALLY act on our instincts when from ((their standpoint)) it's self defense?

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:23:16 [Preview] No.2623 del
Much of what people think are morals are really without much perspective in the grand scheme of things and I really do think that the Jews have shoved down sensitivity brainwashing at a way too early age that makes more pacifists and tolerant people thinking that's a virtue when that is really a crippling vice that's abusing authority, credibility, and appealing to immediate short term emotions that doesn't matter in the long run.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:30:13 [Preview] No.2624 del
>Jews are going by instinct in trying to take over what isn't theirs.
I do think so too, it's dishonest to say the least. And it is very clear to me that they are simply changing their own "laws" in order to make things work for them.
>can you attack them before they attack you even if you didn't have much to go by but enough to go with your instincts of survival?
I'm not that courageous, never was ... though, if attacking means spreading information then I can do that, hah.
Shortsightedness and thinking a sense of something is the same as the reality is definitely destroying us.
A sense, like having a sense of control without actually having control. (Most, or all?) people don't care as long as they have a sense of something, no matter if it matches reality.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:30:53 [Preview] No.2625 del
All I'm saying here is that if you're not remotely willing to kill others that deserve death for aiding the enemy even if they're controlled by proxy, even if they're related to you, are you really someone that people can trust in?

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:32:30 [Preview] No.2626 del
Sure, I don't consider a Jew doing the same evil as a non-Jew to be worse or better than one another.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:36:01 [Preview] No.2627 del
So do you treat ALL JEWS as EQUALS to your own race?

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:39:16 [Preview] No.2628 del
A better question is why would you even trust a "good jew" when they in turn help the enemy in being used as an example that not all jews are bad, ergo, jews are not bad argument, which then give leeway into convincing people that all jews are not all bad, ergo all jews are good.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:47:12 [Preview] No.2629 del
Since Jews themselves as a collective treat foreigners as trash, why shouldn't the race that founded their own nations also seek to treat the Jews as trash or at least, second class citizens striped of the same rights as the first class citizens? You cannot be anti Jew without being a promoter of a racial caste system that favors the real nation's people's DNA over the DNA or foreigners that bring in foreign ideas incompatible to our way of living? Equality by sheer virtue is a delusion.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 15:48:10 [Preview] No.2630 del
*...over the DNA of foreigners...

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:15:05 [Preview] No.2631 del
I certainly prefer my own.
>>2628 >>2629
The problem with (most) Jews is that the identity they have developed or is developed for them is one that has contempt for non-Jews, and sees their own as superior to all other races, and is essentially based on lies and deception, as well as perceiving yourself as the victim while actively attacking other peoples.
I'm not really consistent on this one, and haven't made up my mind to be honest.
>Equality by sheer virtue is a delusion.
No race and no individual within ones race is equal.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:24:16 [Preview] No.2632 del
If you prefer your own race, take back what you've said in >>2626 because you aren't as consistent as you think you are though you did admit you haven't made your mind so you probably won't take it back. It's really not the "same evil" that a foreigner does to your people verses your own people doing against itself, while it's also not the "same evil" when say, YOU yourself seek to undermine the Jews, no different than seeking to undermine Communist regimes. There is no equivocation of evil that you're insinuating.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:37:11 [Preview] No.2633 del
Right, that's a problem as well, the fact that the Jewish community is so tightly nit and controlled. And whenever a Jewish person is against the way things are going, he is smeared, ousted, or killed off very quickly.
I will take it back, I had my doubts about posting it. I'll try to reformulate it as:
If a someone outside my race does the same evil as someone within my race they deserve an equal punishment for it. That is not to say I perceive them as equals.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:42:57 [Preview] No.2634 del
>same evil
As in, if the net result of a crime committed is the same. For example, someone within my race or someone outside my race rapes a child, they deserve the same punishment. Or am I not making sense here, should someone outside ones races receive lower punishments for the same crimes committed than someone outside their race? Again, all this is not to say I perceive them as equals and having homogeneous societies simply works better for all of us.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:45:24 [Preview] No.2635 del
>should someone outside ones race receive lower punishments
*inside ones race, not outside

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:48:49 [Preview] No.2636 del
How can there be equal punishments when different nations have their own laws concerning certain things? Human laws are not Nature's laws are not Divine laws, though people treat human laws to be generally in line with nature and the divine but that's all bullshit, for every culture has its own conception of what's good, so their approach to that good is expressed differently.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 16:53:21 [Preview] No.2637 del
Right, that's a problem.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:01:26 [Preview] No.2638 del
Here's an objective way of thinking about this. Say there's a civil war between two political parties of what was one race. One side loses the war by surrendering as the victor accepts that defeat. Do the losing side that had given up suddenly then get murdered by the winning side? If the winning side's barbaric, then sure, full on genocide for disobedience, but if not, the former leaders of the losing side will not die a terrible death, and will not die for relinquishing to the enemy. If it's a war between two different races, there's less reason for sympathy of the other when defeating them, which is why slavery and war tributes and such become a thing as the victors gain at the expense of the losers to pay for the mess. A foreigner that seeks to undermine a nation does more damage than genuine internal infighting within the same race. The foreigner would be the enemy of both sides of the civil war in this case.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:07:21 [Preview] No.2639 del
In the modern era, slavery is done through industry, making the people work for a foreign company. This is called "neocolonialism" by some. Every technologically advanced nation does this to other countries that owes them favors, regardless of the validity of those favors are.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:15:00 [Preview] No.2640 del
And a foreigner that undermines a nation while pretending to be on their side, and appears to be of the same race as you does even more damage.
>making the people work for a foreign company.
And a foreign currency, of course.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:22:58 [Preview] No.2641 del
Are you getting it now? This isn't a "racist" argument at all, it's just sheer logic that happens to be in favor of protecting one's family and extended family/race. There can never truly be a justified equal punishment for what a foreigner does to a country verses its own people doing things against itself, not to mention that foreigners seek to help one side to gain their favor while destroying the other side, they get to kill and later enslave through trying to seep into the power structure of the winning side of the civil war. The more practical way to do this to ensure getting the full support of the enemy is to fuel both sides of the civil war through proxy organizations and even proxy nations at least on one side of the civil war while being somewhat open to helping the other side of the war.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:29:40 [Preview] No.2642 del
I think so, race is essential to ones identity, and you cannot have a well-functioning society with a multitude of races whom all have different interests and affiliations.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 17:58:04 [Preview] No.2643 del
Can you then really blame kikes for being kikes, niggers for being niggers, spics for being spics, chinks for being chinks in seeking to promote their own interests against the expense of others when any other race or nation should seek to strengthen their own interests also at the expense of others? There is inversely some blame to be put onto those that enabled them to begin with, to have them intermingle and change your people's culture and way of life, some of those consequences being put upon the shoulders of multi generational mixed offsprings that simply cannot merely unmix their mixed genes, but that isn't to say that there's then nothing that can be done. The inevitable and practical solution is to make more babies and to raise them up right, for if it's a genetic turf war, you will win through out breeding the race mixers and the race traitors while establishing a system that keeps them down while keeping your own in power.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:03:10 [Preview] No.2644 del
Of course that's the passive way, the active way is through laws and through force of which not everyone has the balls nor the brains nor even the right connections to do it right. I'm not going to tell you to join a specific group or anything like that, you should find things out for yourself concerning that and don't talk about it on imageboards unless if it's negative stuff that needs to be exposed, maintain OPSEC.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:24:20 [Preview] No.2646 del
>Can you then really blame [races] in seeking to promote their own interests against the expense of others when any other race or nation should seek to strengthen their own interests also at the expense of others?
Promoting your own interests doesn't always have to be at the expense of others though.
> There is inversely some blame to be put onto those that enabled them to begin with,
Very much so
>The inevitable and practical solution is to make more babies
Yep. Though I'm not sure if its already too late for that...
>maintain OPSEC.
I already failed at that by using the Internet, using Tor, using untrusted hardware, firmware, and software.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:35:24 [Preview] No.2647 del
>Promoting your own interests doesn't always have to be at the expense of others though.
Mutual agreements are never kept for long as what was thought to be fair at first ends up being "unfair" later on at the expense of one party's interests against the other. There's no really objective fairness in say, trade deals, for a country wants the best deal that they can get at some level of expense of the other which Canada used to have too good of a deal under the old NAFTA. A nation's goals and interests change in time so there's never really a static view concerning what seems to be mutual at first becoming detrimental later on.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:44:11 [Preview] No.2648 del
As laws change as well as how the laws are interpreted also change, there's no impermanence in political policies that's "perfect" for everyone. Perfect eternal human laws will never be a thing, for the people will inevitably bypass them.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:45:18 [Preview] No.2649 del
>there's no impermanence
*there's no permanence

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 18:45:53 [Preview] No.2650 del
>>2648 >>2647
No you're right, in the end there's always one side that benefits more or less from a certain action.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 19:12:06 [Preview] No.2651 del
Any good nor evil physically lasts forever although both can be potentially perpetuated for a very long span of time, it won't actually last too long beyond the brink of extinction of all life even if our species might one day be doomed, it's still an end to evil as other life forms get a chance to evolve and become self cognizant enough to affect their own environment without using much of their body but using their brains instead.

Anonymous 10/05/2018 (Fri) 19:13:41 [Preview] No.2652 del
*Any MANIFEST good nor evil won't physically last forever

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 15:45:50 [Preview] No.2680 del
The non-linear (?), or metaphysical explanations for magnetism, light, gravity, electricity et cetera appear all logical and I think it is much closer to reality than whatever modern or popular theories on it have to say about it.
Though I asked about the soul and its difference between the mechanism controlling emotion (and thus animating the body).
I admit I haven't read anything about the subject of the soul besides your comments on here, I'll read the articles you referred me to and come back later.

Anyway, whatever the "soul" or "spirit" might be, why do you think it is important to know, to give one hope? That not all is lost when one dies? Or does it help explain why people behave in a certain way?

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 15:50:43 [Preview] No.2681 del
Read this short book while you're at it.

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 15:52:05 [Preview] No.2682 del
Whoops, forgot that I've already posted this (under a different name). Sorry about that.

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 15:53:50 [Preview] No.2683 del
>>2682 >>2681
Thanks, much appreciated.

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 16:03:14 [Preview] No.2684 del
Physics is nothing without metaphysics. Magnitude is magnetism, which is "Xaos", while the "human soul" is the "aether" in between body and spirit of which is also the same "aether" that is the medium of the field which everything within the manifest cosmos is a field modality of the medium which seeks to be at metaphysical "rest", inertia (not the conventional concept of inertia) of which is what causes dielectric acceleration to begin with as that return to the unmanifest potential source is also the Absolute, yet it's invisible.

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 16:11:34 [Preview] No.2685 del
I've posted a youtube video link in the webm thread about what Ken thinks is the source of life (and I agree with his conclusion that the scientists didn't grasp the QUALITATIVE difference between a dead body and a living body). It might get your mind to understand something very important that you're not really getting. He also talks about other things tangentially related to the nature of the soul and such.

Anonymous 10/08/2018 (Mon) 17:42:09 [Preview] No.2687 del
If true metaphysical ontology isn't something that interests you, yet if you keep on obsessing to reinterpret it in terms of the kosmos aisthetos, you will never grasp the kosmos noetos, nor would you ever understand higher principles. Top down logic isn't bottom up "logic". Using anagogical means to convey something beyond the physical from the physical does not help those that have never ever understood retroduction/via negativa methodology for they then make the error in conflating the physical as means for the non physical which is a sign of an ignorant mind that doesn't grasp that which is of noble ideas. The very decay of society is due in part of the people failing to understand the means to come to the truth itself without using the inductive nor deductive methodology that the physical brain/"mind" thinks by default. The noetic understanding of the noble truths are not done by mere memorization and regurgitation. These things are a "mystery" to many, for many never learned how to learn, let alone, sought to find for themselves the truth since all that they care about are immediate concerns with their physical existence demands of them, like a gluttonous buffoon looking for food, can only think of in terms of looking for food, misinterprets what other people say about things into some tangent about food while ignoring anything else that isn't food, so lives out its life for the sole purpose of eating more food.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 15:49:29 [Preview] No.2690 del
>Manual, System, Philosophy, Teachings, Universal, Particular, Seeker, Disciple, Master, Soul, Synthesis, Analysis, Divine Hypostases, Mysticism, Good, True, Beautiful, Truth, Immortal, Idealist, Divine, Philosophic Religious Mysticism, Cause of Truth, Saint, Heavenly Father, Godhead, Mystic, world of Sense, world of Spirit, Service, Man, Matter, Supernal Nature, Supreme Deity, The Order, Spiritual, Material, The Origin, Destiny, Nature, Evil, The Means, Attaining Deliverance, Perfection, Unity, Harmony, Universality, Adequacy, Primal Unity, Goodness, Yonder, Here, Soul Principle, Body, Appearance, Reality, Absolute, One, Supreme God, Spiritual World, Spiritual Life, Essence, Over-Soul, World Soul, Human Soul, Sensible World, Creative World, Divine Creative World Soul, Great Soul, Will, Itself, Nous, Below, Above, Divine Matter
(stopped at pg. 13)

I'm sorry but the amount of new concepts and capitalized words is just insane and I'm thus unable to understand this new language. I'm quite certain that everything that's being talked about is translatable in normal language, though I think it wouldn't seem so special anymore and people would actually understand it.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 19:05:59 [Preview] No.2693 del
>giving up at page 13
That book is the abridged simplified version, the original is convoluted even in Greek while its translations are faulty yet a "cliff's notes" version of that is too hard for you. Plotinus is Plato's Plato, too hard for most people. Read the Indians or Christian Neo-Neoplatonists. Try the Upadesa Sahasri or the Periphyseon. Pretty sure I've uploaded the Upadesa Sahasri, though not yet the Periphyseon.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 19:10:06 [Preview] No.2694 del
You can go the normie way out by reading Algis Uzdavinys' books as well as Ananda K. Coomaraswamy's "Metaphysics" book, though those are much longer books than what I first recommended.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 20:29:20 [Preview] No.2698 del
It's not that I think he is not making sense, I can develop a feeling for what he was trying to say, but I don't think it is necessary to use so many new concepts to explain things that are simplex.
And I am quite sure if one can provide the attributes, features, descriptions, functions of the Soul it can explained in a physical sense (e.g., brain functions.) But that's my take on it, I simply don't like whenever people use complicated lexicon for stuff that can, in my opinion, be easily explainable.
Same with modern-day Psychology, they're all scratching the surface of human behavior and there still isn't a single theory in the field of Psychology that considers the role played by emotion in human behavior, and the mechanism controlling emotion itself (which I think is what the Soul is).
There are of course some who fully know mechanism controlling emotion, and thus human behavior and are abusing that knowledge to control, deceive, manipulate the masses.
And of course a very good way to corrupt and control human beings is to hijack the mechanism controlling emotion, with drugs, deception, disinformation, pornography, NLP, suggestive programming, or actual stimulation of areas in the brain which release a certain emotional response based on the stimuli.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 20:46:42 [Preview] No.2699 del
>though I think it wouldn't seem so special anymore and people would actually understand it.
That's not the case, it's not special just because it doesn't use the profane vocabulary that people use and corrupt which the dialectic language relies on strict grammar to convey nuances not understood by many. The truth itself is banned by both religious/creationist and secular/nihilist institutions, seen as "heterodox" when people are exposed to the claims without understanding the methodology itself is neither inductive nor deductive. Say anything true to religious or secular academics and they go berserk, for they have been co-opted by idiots.

These concepts aren't new, they're only new to you, yet the truth itself is timeless.

The attributes of the soul is not the soul, neither does it make up the soul. Conflating the brain with the soul is the materialist fallacy.

Descriptions are not explanations, while even if I just tell you what it is, you have frequently denied and failed to understand it, it's beyond physicality itself.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 21:18:33 [Preview] No.2700 del
"Simplex" isn't merely "simple". A rock is simple, but the truth is simplex. The way I use that word cannot be understood by those that haven't mastered the via negativa methodology which is the means to come to the simplex, just as the dielectric acceleration is drawn towards metaphysical inertia, likewise when one masters this abstruse methodology, it takes no "force" to assimilate the truth as well as recognize what's true without using memory or feelings or any other physically bound means from the false self that can never know the true self. A child can know these truths yet it takes an adult much more time to get it through them. People can have a high IQ and acquire vast amounts of empirical information, unlearn lots of disinformation, but they will still struggle to accept ancient monism which isn't "idealism" in the way academia describes it, there is no hard separation between the manifest and the unmanifest realm. Of course being somewhat healthy is helpful, but even with the best diet (low carb adequate protein high fat high nutrient density raw carnivore diet), the best genes, the best gene expression (epigenetic factors tied to nutrition of the parents as well as the environment), none of that is by any means a guarantee that person would understand what the spiritual elites understands that the false elites had corrupted and suppressed.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 21:31:41 [Preview] No.2701 del
>"Simplex" isn't merely "simple"
Haha, I shouldn't have used that word, I don't even understand it.

Regarding the Soul I don't think I'm willing or able to understand it because I do not see the importance of doing so nor do I see why there must be a non-physical explanation for human behavior.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 21:40:34 [Preview] No.2702 del
Simplex is "single". A similar word is "advaita" or nondual. There's no dualities, it's called "monism" for a reason, though holism/hology is closer to what ancient monists actually understood.

All the cult BS that goes on in the world is due in part from the failure to be able to think, and you are no different to me than anyone else though I'm used to being the few that understands these abstruse things.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 21:47:03 [Preview] No.2703 del
>failure to be able to think
Fully agree, though what has the Soul to do with it?

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:10:17 [Preview] No.2704 del
You either have a low attention span or you just have zero noetic awareness like a nihilist.

By "failure to be able to think" is in context with everything else I've said about the via negativa methodology that is akin to dielectric acceleration towards metaphysical inertia; which that was an anagogical example, although I don't know for certain how much you understand about the dielectric field modality of the ether, let alone, even understand what the ether is so that had probably "went over your head". It's a burden for me to deal with someone as metaphysically nescient as you are (which is mostly everyone you might come in contact with physically). These eternal, timeless truths are not something to be remembered trivially as a statement since it can be as easily forgotten as fast as it was remembered, while it can only be known for one self. If you cannot get it, you won't get it. Just live on your lives of blissful ignorance if you don't even want to read and understand the nuances to these matters if you had already given up. If not, read the Upadesa Sahasri, just the first chapter. It won't even make any rational sense to you, for the truth is both intuitive and rational but not intuition and hard logic by themselves.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:15:49 [Preview] No.2705 del
>low attention span
Probably. I'm of average intelligence and I have a bad memory, which is why I need to reduce things to its essence in order for me to understand things.


Sorry, different topic, have you (or anyone) read this (from 2011): https:/archive.fo/qERv5 ?
It's either someone LARPing as a Rothschild or actually a Rothschild, whoever it is he has certainly an interesting perspective on things, it will take some time to get through all his responses to the questions posed, but it might be an interesting read (I'm 5% trough it now.)

Also available here:

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:28:22 [Preview] No.2706 del
He literally spent multiple days answering every question he got, and so far I couldn't find obvious signs of LARPing or disinformation.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:35:08 [Preview] No.2707 del
Here's the file. I edited the HTML file so there are no 3rd-party requests made.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:43:00 [Preview] No.2708 del
Even assuming if it wasn't a LARP (not a convincing LARP) that person's an asshole.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:52:35 [Preview] No.2709 del
Quite an asshole, yes.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 22:58:43 [Preview] No.2710 del
>If all mankind evolved from the same ancestor their blood would be compatible. Where did the Rh negatives come from? If they are not the descendants of prehistoric man, could they be the descendants of planetary travelers?
Yeah... a LARP.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:07:23 [Preview] No.2711 del
Some tid-bits
>[Anon] Have you ever met Marius Romanus or St. Germaine?
>[OP] Imagine a reality where things aren't named. That you "know" someone intuitively...and all that is known is apparent to you without explanation.
>It was those Egyptians who came up with the need to name everything! It was so much simpler before!


>[Anon] How much Tesla Technology do you have hidden away?
>What is the newest secret tech invention or breakthrough?
>[OP]Hidden in plain sight!
>There is a wealth of information available on Tesla's techniques. Ironically, few take the time to read them.
>Very, very few.
>Almost none. And Tesla's patents lay out a great starting point. But like your great aunt leaving a key ingredient out of her prize cake recipe, some work must be done.
>Tesla was the real genius...not Einstein, not Edison.
>Tesla had the "keys to the kingdom" within his reach! It was thus necessary to change the lock.
>[Anon] Very Interesting
>Thanks for the answer and the ideas it will generate!
>[OP]Tesla's patent attorney conducted a three day deposition in conjunction with a patent he filed on wireless energy transmission! The attorney was concerned that the patent language was insufficient to capture the genius and potential of Tesla's ideas. Read that, if you want some thinking material!
>I have a scan of the original (containing some margin notes in Tesla's hand) and consider it one of the great works of the era. A true genius.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:10:57 [Preview] No.2712 del
Veganism won't sustain a population for more than five generations, many wouldn't be able to make a third generation vegan. That's a hard empirical reality. This Rothschild never knew WHY Tesla was a genius, he had read Roger Boscovich's Theory of Natural Philosophy which was partly inspired by the Periphyseon which the Periphyseon was written by someone that had looked into the writings of the Neoplatonists. The Rh negative theory was a very popular theory back eight years ago, but it's full of crap. Rh negative blood isn't correlated with those that have the genes that doesn't use heme-iron but instead, copper as the basis for the "red blood cell" that's physically blue, but having physically blue blood that uses copper doesn't mean that they can't eat animals product and byproduct. If anything, they would have to eat more liver or eggs or bivalves to have a bioavailable form of copper. This guy's an idiot.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:14:44 [Preview] No.2713 del
Literally everyone that knew anything about Tesla had already known about these things yet many of these people that had heard about these things of Tesla doesn't know how he had done what he had done. Nikola Tesla wasn't the only one that understood electricity. Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, James Clerk Maxwell, everyone that had understood Electrical Theory knows the nature of Dielectricity, knows also the necessity of the Ether to be real.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:16:32 [Preview] No.2714 del
I had already posted the "Tesla Said" pdf here, read that if you really want to have a glimpse of what you don't understand about Tesla.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:19:37 [Preview] No.2715 del
Mhm, right. Seems like infotainment for me, he isn't really consistent as well.
I've downloaded the books you posted, though not read them yet. I know what he said is (not even) scratching the surface of what Tesla was.

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:29:50 [Preview] No.2716 del
>[OP] The universe does not necessarily serve us, but it provides all which is needed...and more.
>Someone posted a thought about the amount of energy between ambient and absolute zero is nearly infinite. The energy contained within an atom is beyond human comprehension!
>Read of Tesla. He is the real deal! Don't waste time with the hucksters on the internet, although tere are a few who acknowledge and are trying to continue Tesla's work...one hundred years later!

Anonymous 10/09/2018 (Tue) 23:43:02 [Preview] No.2717 del
The fundamental particle: hydrogen-1, the single proton, is a dielectric condensate. https://youtube.com/watch?v=dd6IsYLCOZc [Embed]

Imagine light (which is an ether perturbation) going around and into itself as the dielectric Z-axis compounds into itself bound to itself to a cartesian coordinate which then gains the attribute of "mass". The means to destroy an atom to release its light is expensive and inefficient as means for an energy source.

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:05:55 [Preview] No.2718 del
In the video Ken makes a mistake in saying helium. In other videos he says hydrogen which is obviously logically what he meant to say since helium comes after hydrogen.

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:08:13 [Preview] No.2719 del
Oh he says hydrogen at the end, oh well, made that post and this post for no reason then.

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:13:34 [Preview] No.2720 del
No problem, by the way messages have a few minutes delay.
Also, do you have other places you regular on the Internet, or is end/horror/ the only place you go (besides 8/pol/).

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:18:45 [Preview] No.2721 del
I don't post on 8chan. There are others besides me that are very interested in the stuff Ken had brought back into the public conscience but I don't know of them personally but they never claim to be Ken and Ken himself doesn't post in imageboards though he does post in a certain electrical forum occasionally. I generally lurk on specific Youtube channels and I do have an account on Twitter (mostly shitposting) and Diaspora*, though I won't go out of my way to dox myself though.

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:26:39 [Preview] No.2722 del
>though I won't go out of my way to dox myself though.
Expected response and that wasn't my intention.

Anonymous 10/10/2018 (Wed) 00:58:11 [Preview] No.2725 del
If you want to try something different, have a go with this https://solid.inrupt.com/

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 02:00:03 [Preview] No.2737 del
I'm sure you remember the video of the cult ritual at CERN. What was the "official" story behind that? And did anyone ever find out what it really was?

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 03:31:11 [Preview] No.2739 del
I remember that video it came out I belive it could be real. I don't remember exactly either they said it was done by visitors and not staff or they did not have an official explanation. They always talk about satanists in graveyards and that video even if its fake it shows candid satanism in that context of which I am sure that kind of thing is going on and its an underground epidemic apparently. One of the big criticisms is that there is flood lights and that is not very good for staying hidden.you can hear them chanting which suggests they are not trying to stay hidden it kind of sounds like dogs barking but they are chanting. The willingness of the victim suggests she thought she was just going to lie there and maybe they worded it in such a way she thought she was going to do a simple wiccan ritual. Or that its faked. Maybe she was in a drug induced trance. That is the most puzzling part they all walk in formation and is disrobed and lies down as if they rehearsed it beforehand. The reaction of the cameraman is the best part of that video.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 04:13:33 [Preview] No.2740 del
The video is very strange, and things don't add up. If they were trying to be secret, why did they do it in the middle of a well lit courtyard that could be seen from countless windows? If they were trying to be secret, they must have known that no on was (supposed to be) inside the building. Why was no one but the person filming in the building? CERN must have SOME security, where were they? Why didn't the person filming call security or call the police? Are they CERN staff or not? If they aren't CERN staff, how did they get there? Is there no fence? Did they break through a fence? Were they invited in and then left unattended, or did CERN staff allow them to do it? How would they have known no one was in the building? Was it a prank or was it a real Satanic ritual? Why would someone do a prank like that if it wasn't intended to be recorded and put online? If that's the case, and it is a prank, then the person recording must be in on it. The fact that the recorder tried very hard to show that they were at CERN was suspicious. If he was in on it, and they aren't CERN staff, how did he get inside the building? If they are CERN staff, did the people in charge at CERN know about it? It just doesn't make any sense no matter how you look at it.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 05:41:18 [Preview] No.2742 del
I am the BO and while there may be points that I disagree with or would not stress the person/people doing the answering is basically right. That usually goes without being said in these threads but if its about what deserves a thread this is a good thread and I just wanted to make that distinction after reading some of the back and forth in this thread. Also >>2625 the wording of
>All I'm saying here is that if you're not remotely willing to kill others that deserve death for aiding the enemy even if they're controlled by proxy, even if they're related to you, are you really someone that people can trust in?
I was confused who that was aimed at I do not advocate violence but I advocate military tribunals and deputization of citizens if need be. I do not like the civil war advocation and that is what a lot of the problem is with divide and conquer. I am trying to wake people up and get the masonic corruption part of this public conversation on institutionalized corruption so that people blandly yelling white privilege have something to complain about the actual masonic (and related cults)privelage that comes with being a kept slave to the lodge.so that the anger that is being wasted on kavanaugh and timely bullshit can be used to call out and protest the actual corruption and so on so that there is not a civil war or any kind of conflict like that. I did not read the whole thread but Good job guys. Pic unrelated but kind of related in the overall spiritual battle of good and evil playing out in the world.
It would make sense because it seems like it was at at least midnight when there is usually no one there.maybe word got around that people where doing that and that explains why the cameraman was there.They must have been doing it regularly or more often. The lack of official response leads me to believe it could be real because they would love to say it was a prank done by visitors and not real but they did not respond as far as I know.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 05:50:38 [Preview] No.2743 del
I also believe in what I loosely understand as "natural law".

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 07:01:52 [Preview] No.2744 del
According to CERN's spokeswoman, it was a prank done by scientists there without official permission. Seems legit. Everyone knows there's nothing funnier than a human sacrifice ritual in the middle of the night. Who were they pranking? Clearly not the rest of the scientists that work there since it's the middle of the night. People on the internet? Why in the fuck would they put their career and the reputation of their workplace on the line for a joke? If it was a prank, then that means the cameraman was in on it. Why did the cameraman act (act?) so surprised, and why did he make sure that people watching the video would know this was at CERN? (the video on that website conveniently doesn't show the end of that video, which had the camera pan up to a large mural of the particle accelerator.) I can't tell if the woman is really being stabbed, but she does jolt a little bit when it happens. Could this maybe be a hoax in order to discredit CERN? Anyways sorry to bring this up like 2 years after happened but I randomly remembered how fishy it was.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 14:04:55 [Preview] No.2745 del
The cameraman was wearing a black robe, revealed near the end when the reflection of the window exposed that reality. It always was a full blown hoax to discredit those that are spooking gullible people on the whole CERN is opening a portal to hell by creating a black hole to rip open the fabric of space (bullshit quantum physics). Then these insane scamming Youtube charlatans making money from ad revenue and selling merchandising linking affiliate links. The people at CERN had put that Lord Shiva statue there as a symbol of conquering ignorance itself which is the strive of science(though all they get from splitting hydrogen atoms is light, while what they get from combining radioactive atoms are super unstable atoms, they will not understand the true dielectric nature of a "black hole" by bumping particles). https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Lord-Shivas-Natraj-form-shown-to-dance-standing-on-a-babys-body

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 14:36:12 [Preview] No.2746 del
>I do not like the civil war avocation and that is what a lot of the problem is with divide and conquer.
You haven't really grasp the full context, so here's the summary of what I meant: having a civil war is a "lesser evil" than going against a foreign evil that seeks to undermine their enemy (us), usually through internal takeover which inevitably creates civil wars to begin with.

Kavanaugh is the person behind the Patriot Act, he's pro abortion too. He is anti 4th amendment and pro 2nd amendment. An anti 4th amendment judge might be necessary to evade the privacy of evil parasitic systems but that too will backfire in evading innocent people's homes. Some say (people like the Jewish Henry Makow) Kavanaugh is a Freemason but I think he hates "liberal" women so much because of that psychotic psychology professor as well as the CIA since she is of a CIA family. Representative Democracy is a slow process which these kikes had taken over and had done too much damage from creating the Republican ideal of actually treating blacks and whites as one people at a equal footing which is unfortunately been messed with and destroyed by Democrats and the Jews that wants to maintain the false dichotomy against black.

The rationality taking over the minds of SJWs are really inverted racism, as strange as that sounds, but for Jews, they don't fall for the same SJW mentality collectively speaking. Freemasons on the other hand, are both racist and not racist, accepting only their in group with whatever stupid fucking ritual greetings they do even in public. For the most part, Freemasons are no different than any other public cult having their own way of communicating with each other, but the reason I think it's "cringy" is because they themselves are ignorant and they pride themselves in it without knowing why and are given a false reason why like salvation or some other excuse taken out of context of the original sources of the very cults that they ripped off of but never contextually understand those religions individually, so they also don't understand why Christians are against Freemasonry, especially if they call themselves "Christian Freemasons", for their ultimate priority overrides their Christian obligations for Freemasonic ones. Freemasons have adopted the psychosis of kikes, but various other religions also adopt a similar disloyalty to their actual flesh and blood family and extended family as Protestants and Catholics fund Zionists and Jews among their own institutions and abroad, making people dependent on money received by these charities at the cost of allegiance to a religious ideal instead of promoting self sustainability. I can't trust most charities even if they're nonreligious since secular charity devolves into a religion of gibs me dats no different than state welfare. If I had enough know how and wealth, I would only do charity all by myself all without destroying myself in the process which of course there's a very thin line between charity and enabling.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 14:53:21 [Preview] No.2747 del
(372.45 KB the_name.pdf)
Here's a different Messianic talking about the name issue

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 14:56:42 [Preview] No.2748 del
Oh wait, this is about the name Jesus/Yeshua/Yehoshua

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 15:17:13 [Preview] No.2749 del
Thanks anyway. I'm not sure what's up with Christianity and its many New Testament corruptions.
One question ... are ethnic Europeans the Chosen People of the New Testament, if not who are the Chosen People of the New Testament?

Here's Brother Nathanael's take on it:
Jews Are NOT The "Chosen People"
Christians Are God's Chosen People NOT Jews!
Christians NOT Jews Are God's Chosen People!

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:22:30 [Preview] No.2750 del
"Chosen People" in what context? From a Christian Theological standpoint, only God knows who is His people while even Christians themselves only speculate that others have an APPEARANCE of godliness (AKA doing things that Christians do) but no one can say for certain at a truly individual level who is saved, while what Christians claim is that those who are within a congregation who are godly people who affirms the doctrines of God and various other things pertaining to faith are treated as if they are saved, among each other, represent a physical body/group/organization of Christ meeting at a location. In other words, nobody is saved via genetics nor by works nor could even know if they themselves are saved if they really want to be systematically correct. However, once saved always save is a concept that goes beyond the minds of most people, since works can't deny nor confirm one's salvation, therefore, ASSUMING that God really did "saved" someone of which the proof of that salvation is through confession of their sins to God as well as testifying to others your conversion has happened, no amount of works would negate one's salvation even if they become a soul denying atheist degenerate that ends up destroying their body. However, the only real motivation for Christians to be Christians is for the Christian community in having a LIKENESS of being in a heavenly community WHILE on earth among like minded Christians at external value, as well as the speculative life after death in rewards in heaven (which is the dominion of God) which in the Book of Revelation, in the New Creation, Heaven and Earth will be one (after sending all wickedness into the lake of fire to burn forevermore), is also when Christians affirm to the PHYSICAL resurrection of all Christians into incorruptible bodies. In other words, Christianity is the desire to establish an ideal community on earth and the means to that ideal is also "Christian". However, it's a lie to say that only Christianity sought after a sort of "Platonic Ideal" of a pure society with only one ruler that understands true metaphysics.

"Brother" Nathanael promotes Putin, a half kike so I don't care about his political perspective.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:32:46 [Preview] No.2751 del
To add to this, Christian communities kick out those that "appear" to be "ungodly" regardless of if God actually saved someone, of which God doesn't say so except for a few special instances but generally speaking no mortal can know who's saved according to Christianity but the fact of the matter is, there has always been controversy as to trying to determine who's lying and who's not, who hates who and who's trying to get rid of why and for what reason. The Salem Witch Trials is partly due to food poisoning from bad rye crops that causes epileptic symptoms, but there were also some African hoodoo influences and deception going on from people that's taking the opportunity to blame others for being a witch so it's a myriad of factors beyond so called magic (the only magic that's real is deception, all else are illusions, falsehoods). The rise of secularism within the colonies was an inevitable outcome as an alternative option against religious speculations, but the means to it is a materialistic cult.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:35:21 [Preview] No.2752 del
>"Brother" Nathanael promotes Putin, a half kike so I don't care about his political perspective.
Right, I knew about that and I do not endorse the person itself but he sometimes has good information. I can probably find other people talking about this subject.
>"Chosen People" in what context?
As in those who God considered to be a "Light upon the Nations (peoples)"

Also the New Testament isn't entirely oblivious to race, and God in the NT doesn't seem to liked what happened in Babylon (racial mixing):

>African hoodoo influences

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:45:18 [Preview] No.2753 del
Insisting the New Testament isn't oblivious to race is cherrypicking. Timothy for example, was a Judahite-Greecian whom Paul himself personally circumcises so that Timothy can be accepted among some Jewish community. Again, you have a low attention span, reread what I've posted, because there's ultimately no genetic people that are "God's people" by blood. Much of the sources used in that article is using the Old Testament to justify a Christian nation mostly comprised of one race of Christian converts, but if they are really a Christian nation, they cannot deny marriage to a Christian of another race if two of those people really loved each other (lust isn't love) and are of good faith, God Himself doesn't condemn it just as salvation isn't limited to a specific race, so is miscegenation is allowed under specific circumstances.

It was called hoodoo in many old books, it's been changed to be called voodoo these days. The voodoo religion is an African syncretic cult.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 16:53:58 [Preview] No.2754 del
>Insisting the New Testament isn't oblivious to race is cherrypicking.
Isn't entirely oblivious to race. But yes, it is cherry-picking and the NT doesn't really seem to see it as important, even though it is.
>Again, you have a low attention span, reread what I've posted,
Yes, sorry. I should read more before having an opinion, most of the time I'm simply guessing at the truth ...

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:02:28 [Preview] No.2755 del
By the way, Moses married an Egyptian, while his sister, Mary/Miriam had gotten leprosy for being against his wife children, yet Moses himself was spooked by God to get his child circumcised. It's really all there in the bible, but it's just not worth the time for most people to sit through and read much of these things.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:04:01 [Preview] No.2756 del
Interesting, thanks.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:17:15 [Preview] No.2757 del
The end goal of the book of Revelation is the creation of one purified, immortal physical race (no need for sexual reproduction though) by God, even though racial distinction of the spirits within certain scenes in heaven is noted by John/Yochanon, there's absolutely no descriptions of physical differences in the incorruptible bodies in the New Heaven/New Earth. This is also in line with Paul's statement in Galatians 3:28 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A28&version=GNV There is neither Jew nor Grecian: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is the same Paul that spoken against circumcision as means for salvation (yet circumcised Timothy so that he wouldn't be bullied by the kikes), the same Paul that called the Cretans liars.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:20:17 [Preview] No.2758 del
>There is neither Jew nor Grecian
Isn't it: "There is neither Judean nor Grecian" ?

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:21:25 [Preview] No.2759 del
In this context, it's JUDAHITE. Judean is literally anyone within the Roman providence of Judea controlled by Pontius Pilate.

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:29:12 [Preview] No.2760 del
Seems correct.
Gal 3:28 [Textus Receptus]
οὐκ ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ἕλλην οὐκ ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος οὐκ ἔνι ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ· πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς εἷς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ

From Ῐ̓ούδᾱ (Ioúdā) +‎ -ιος (-ios), from Biblical Hebrew יְהוּדָה‎ (yəhūḏāh, “Judah”).

Anonymous 10/12/2018 (Fri) 17:33:49 [Preview] No.2761 del
By the way, all of the Pharisees and Sadducees before the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem were of one of three Israelite tribes: Levite, Judahite, Benjamite. Paul was a Benjamite Judean Pharisee that had converted to Christianity which you could read that for yourself in the book of Acts. The Greeks at the time didn't know the difference between a Judahite and a Benjamite since they both lived among each other.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 00:44:32 [Preview] No.2787 del
Right now the socio-political climate is one that calls for much discernment that's for sure.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:17:33 [Preview] No.2788 del
Knowing the enemy is not enough for action against the enemy, for it's one thing to know what's wrong, it's another thing to undo the mess without making a mess yourself. "Discernment" is a meaningless term these days, it's a buzzword used by many pastors to imply that they have discernment of the scriptures of which they really don't have true discernment, since to discern what's true requires no institution to tell you what's true but it does require platonic retroduction of which none of you guys had demonstrated to grasp that methodology to come to the truth via negativa which isn't inductive nor deductive despite having attributes of both.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:29:11 [Preview] No.2789 del
>[...] platonic retroduction of which none of you guys had demonstrated to grasp [...]
What is the best place to start learning about that?

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:40:31 [Preview] No.2790 del
I agree there are some issues that man can not understand from certain vantage points but I have learned that there is a term "eyes to see and ears to hear". God is showing things to people randomly all across the earth in a great awakening and it is not mans job to stop it. That is what the media is doing showing literal news as if they are pretentiously assuming the official declaration of what is going on in the world. Its why there is dialectical barriers but god can show us truth. If god shows you something it is then up to the individual to employ discernment. And sure there is wickedness in high places but its a small world after all and its not our place to comment on such things making a mess of it but its better than what we see being done left and right just clumping things together in political statements that we have to then pay attention to like the kavanaugh manafort 70s coctail bar nonsense that just transpired with the npc storyline

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:40:31 [Preview] No.2791 del
Read any non christian neoplatonic writing. If you're unable to understand how they think, you don't get it. If you do know how they think, you do get it. There's no book on this lost methodology by itself, doesn't exist. Even the very person that had invented the word "retroduction" (Charles Sanders Peirce) doesn't get it.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:46:52 [Preview] No.2792 del
>There's no book on this lost methodology by itself, doesn't exist.
Odd. Is it that it so hard to understand?

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:53:26 [Preview] No.2793 del
If you're the same person that I've talked to in this very thread, then yes, it is. If you're someone like me but 2 years ago when I was a Christian, also yes. If you're an atheist, you are handicapped more than I was. To say it simply, even the translators of Plotinus had failed to properly convey what he meant yet their translations by themselves are too hard for normal people to wrap their minds around.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 01:59:04 [Preview] No.2794 del
Then I'm not so sure about if it is the best way, I don't think it needs to be so complicated.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:06:20 [Preview] No.2795 del
It's complicated to those that obsessively try to physically explain nonphysical concepts through physical descriptions like the very idiots that try to define a field through a quantity when a field is not a quantity, unquantifiable. Just as there's no mathematical formula for love, just as you can't get a mechanical calculator to suddenly gain sentience, it's "hard" when you think in your old ways.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:08:50 [Preview] No.2796 del
This is only a mere beginning to Retroduction: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=xBw9jC8SvLw

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:13:30 [Preview] No.2797 del
>the very idiots that try to define a field through a quantity when a field is not a quantity, unquantifiable.
That is a very simple and uncomplicated explanation. Much more simple than the explanation modern-day science has for it.
I think everything can be condensed to its core and explained simply, even though the quantity of simple things can make something complex, neurons, fields, molecules, et cetera.
And the same goes for human behavior, and thus concept like love.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:16:07 [Preview] No.2798 del
Sorry, field.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:20:54 [Preview] No.2799 del
Nobody however can't come to the implications of any truth without the wisdom to negate ALL that which is false by means of inductive nor deductive method, just impossible. That was just an example of what comes AFTER understanding, it's NOT the means to understand the ROOT of all things. You confuse epistemology with ontology, so for as long as you confuse the two, you will not understand true wisdom, you would only recognize something to be good but unable to act upon what is good without someone else telling you what is good, but then that's to admit you don't know for yourself how to come to that which is good on your own.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:25:25 [Preview] No.2800 del
see >>2796 if you haven't already

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:26:00 [Preview] No.2801 del
>That was just an example of what comes AFTER understanding, it's NOT the means to understand the ROOT of all things.
Right, that's true.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:34:49 [Preview] No.2802 del
How important do you think language is in all of this. To me it is pretty clear that words and concepts are one the most important things in adopting this way of thinking.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:40:24 [Preview] No.2803 del
Language is not as important as mastering grammar. For example, when you look up a dictionary, a shadow is treated as a noun. A metaphysician will denounce that description to be false, for a shadow is less than a noun, it is dependent on what's real, so shadows aren't real in and of themselves but are an attribute of something else.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:48:09 [Preview] No.2804 del
I think you can compile a great list of things that can be improved in the way people think about things by simply altering the language itself.
Like instead of 'shadow' being a thing, make it clear that it is simply the absense of light, call it 'nolight'.
Besides metaphysics language is used to control people's thoughts, and this is very logical, since I don't think people are able to think without language. And corrupting language means corrupting thought.
"Dark matter" being one such example.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 02:53:52 [Preview] No.2805 del
In fact, we are using language right now (really?) to attempt to communicate ideas and concepts.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 03:01:18 [Preview] No.2806 del
Language itself is a means to understanding but is not cognition. A baby can experience and understand many things before it can even speak. I don't always think in English yet I can't describe that mode of thinking in words alone.

Conventional understanding of words and the metaphysical reconstruction of the understanding behind the words have two different "descriptions", though the conventionally derived definition being dependent on context, the metaphysically arrived explanation being denotative and connotative not truly dependent on context. A restructuring of this magnitude is something super autistic metaphysicians can tackle but it's not really my forte to do something like that though I would consider it.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 03:13:01 [Preview] No.2807 del

Another book recommendation from Ken Wheeler

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 03:13:42 [Preview] No.2808 del
>A restructuring of this magnitude is something super autistic metaphysicians can tackle but it's not really my forte to do something like that though I would consider it.
You mean giving explanation and descriptions for existing concepts and words such as light, shadow, et cetera?

>Language itself is a means to understanding but is not cognition.
Right, but communication of concepts and ideas is a why we have language. Without that I don't think one could efficiently communicate ideas and concepts to other people.

Anyway, besides the metaphysics, like I said, I think (English) language is being corrupted has been corrupted over the last 200 years with the introduction of new concepts and words and the changing of definitions of existing concepts and words. Language is extremely important I think.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 03:33:48 [Preview] No.2809 del
"of this magnitude"

As in, fixing the whole goddamn dictionary

Yes there's multiple levels of changes in English into what it is now, but Old English (not even close to Elizabethan English) is incomparable to current English. I don't know if there's a list of old words in this book though I have a physical copy of it but some of the words used here is lost in time and "it's a shame" that we don't normally use them. (skip to page 1347 for the glossary)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 04:10:41 [Preview] No.2811 del
There's probably a much better list of middle English words out there, just used that as an example.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 15:51:41 [Preview] No.2815 del
Thank you, maybe is this something:

A dictionary of the first or oldest words in the English language: from the semi-Saxon period of A.D. 1250 to 1300. Consisting of an alphabetical inventory of every word found in the printed English literature of the 13th century

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 17:31:07 [Preview] No.2816 del
Those by themselves wouldn't help me much since the fact remains that all of the Celtic high class of their metaphysics were never fully written down. The Celtic people were the Scythians of which Siddhartha Gotama Buddha Shakyamuni was of that "Aryan" race but then the Romans, the Normans and some Christianized Vikings took over the British Isles before it was known as such, so whatever strains of truth held by the Celtic cult is hidden behind a Christian facade of what they express nobility and a social order behind it. However, I am absolutely not a fan of the modern (post Magna Carta) legal system that they've overly complicated into an utter mess, which all former and current Crown colonies (all Prime Ministers of the Anglosphere are still representative rulers for the Queen) had adopted and also further globalized through various means.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 19:15:17 [Preview] No.2818 del
Useful info, thanks. I'm watching the lecture now.
(For others, the title of the video is "Barry Cunliffe - Who Were the Celts".)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 19:38:19 [Preview] No.2819 del
Have you read these books written by Laurence Austine Waddell:

The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots & Anglo-Saxons (1924 - 1st. edition)

Aryan Origin of the Alphabet (1927)

The British Edda (1930)

Egyptian Civilization: Its Sumerian Origin and Real Chronology (1930)

The Indo-Sumerian Seals Deciphered (1925)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 19:50:45 [Preview] No.2820 del
I've read some of those (I promoted the first link to people at least a year back) but I don't see the Phoenicians/Zidonians as some evil entity that people in the wholly retarded "Saturnian cult" sense that many brainlet armchair syncretists are insinuating.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:02:33 [Preview] No.2821 del
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>but I don't see the Phoenicians/Zidonians as some evil entity
Me neither, though I haven't read much on it yet.

Pic attached is the origins of the Hebrew language and Hebrew people which are also of Phoenician origin (?)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:10:52 [Preview] No.2822 del
I'll transcribe those pages to TXT after watching the lecture. Bit easier to read/share.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:23:08 [Preview] No.2823 del
Also book can be downloaded here: https://archive.org/details/Hebrew.is.Greek (100MB)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:31:02 [Preview] No.2824 del
I was also one of the first people to share the Hebrew is Greek thing. I don't know if people (or even you) had got that shit from me or they're just pretending that they've found it by their own via search engine.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:33:04 [Preview] No.2825 del
I've found it myself and created that image. Though ironically I have not even read it entirely.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:38:41 [Preview] No.2826 del
>found it myself
Not entirely of course, by proxy at least, I found it on a YouTube channel called "Hidden Human Story" by a woman named Rita Jean Moran, I'm not sure about her, her channel, or her books, though she sometimes shared some interesting tid-bits which the "Hebrew is Greek" book was one of them.
I have not read her books, which I'd love to have since it is only available on Amazon by buying it with fiat money and shipping it to your address (which I'm not going to do)

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:39:13 [Preview] No.2827 del
Academia had recognized an even older theory of the alphabet. See the first video here >>2568

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:40:21 [Preview] No.2828 del
Sure, but every historical point is worth noting and investigating.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:41:03 [Preview] No.2829 del
It's a long video before it even gets to the alphabet part so be patient.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:41:49 [Preview] No.2830 del
Not an argument.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:42:59 [Preview] No.2831 del
If there was a connection with the Phoenician alphabet and ours, then that's worth noting. If the Phoenicians got it from someone else, that's worth nothing as well.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:44:24 [Preview] No.2832 del
Stating that isn't necessarily an argument for nor against the Hebrew is Greek theory.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 20:57:57 [Preview] No.2833 del
I'm not defending anything, I only shared it because I thought it was interesting and relevant.
If you want a defense of the "Hebrew is Greek" theory you'd need to read the 710 page book on the subject (>>2823). I haven't read it yet, only some quotes and pages.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 21:04:16 [Preview] No.2834 del
The problem is that the information in that book and the claims made isn't in light of up to date archaeological findings. However, I'm not going to get into that until after you've watched that long video that I don't know if you could sit through but when you do go through it all, you may get why Hebrew didn't come from Greek

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 21:05:45 [Preview] No.2835 del
>I don't know if you could sit through
I have no problem watching hour-long videos.

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I think he's making very clear that he doesn't give a fuck about his viewers. Pics are screenshots only 1 minute and 10 seconds in, I'll try to watch it though.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 21:25:02 [Preview] No.2837 del
I think your paranoia is unjustified in this context.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 21:51:56 [Preview] No.2838 del
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Here is David Rohl's blog and books (attached pic) by the way.
>I think your paranoia is unjustified in this context.
Possibly. Still watching.

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 22:00:41 [Preview] No.2839 del
Sorry, forgot the blog URL: http://davidrohl.blogspot.com/

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 23:49:31 [Preview] No.2841 del
So I finished watching it, the interesting part starts at 1:12:12
His conclusion and his explanations seem logical to me, though I'm still unsure who caused the Israelites to be enslaved, what caused the famine (natural causes?) and who took over Egypt in the Hyksos period (or after it).
Also since you're no longer a Christian, do you consider the New (and Old) Testament to be an accurate historical account of events, in general?

Anonymous 10/14/2018 (Sun) 23:58:49 [Preview] No.2843 del
I don't trust most people's analysis as to the means of interpretation, they have to have serious proof which would take nothing less than someone as brilliant (or honest) as David Rohl. However, not everything can be understood, nor should it even be understood in a literal, historical sense, which I can tell if people are bullshitting in that regard concerning trying to synchronize existing chronologies with events in the bible. I don't care about what cannot be understood which takes extraordinary proof to back up the extraordinary claim, but many don't have that extraordinary proof most of the time.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:01:27 [Preview] No.2844 del
If you don't know the story, basically, Joseph and the rest of Jacob's family moved to Egypt and became very powerful for their contributions to Egypt, but in due time, that history was lost as the events of Moses begins over 400 years after.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:03:12 [Preview] No.2845 del
Just read the first six books of the old testament if you want to get what these Egyptologists are trying to wrap their minds around.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:06:08 [Preview] No.2846 del
>However, not everything can be understood, nor should it even be understood in a literal, historical sense
I guess much of the anologies, tales, vagueness in the NT (and OT?) is due to either misinterpretations, mistranslations, or corruptions of the original source of the NT (and OT?).
>that history was lost as the events of Moses begins over 400 years after.
What do you mean, that Joseph wasn't considered as important as Moses, so they neglected him?
I might. Thanks.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:12:41 [Preview] No.2847 del
Take the first goddamn chapter of Genesis. God creates light, but then on the fourth day (after inventing time which is by itself a metaphysical fallacy) God creates the sun and the moon. The only kind of conclusion people could make that isn't literal is more of a primordial means of days (24 hour cycle) that is without physical light to have existed prior to the first day itself. This is what I meant by not taking things literally.

In due time, the Egyptians enslaved the growing Israelite population as they've seen them as a threat that might one day take over their way of life. The Israelites were clearly Asiatic, they didn't look racially Egyptian. It's more of a racial instinct really, can't really blame Egyptians for being suspicious of other people.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:15:42 [Preview] No.2848 del
>Egyptians enslaved the growing Israelite population as they've seen them as a threat

>Take the first goddamn chapter of Genesis.
Though why make it so vague, why not tell people literally what happened.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:17:17 [Preview] No.2849 del
There's actually two creation stories in Genesis. Most Christians will try to weave the two together although in the other creation story also in the book of Genesis, God made man on the first day.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:18:32 [Preview] No.2850 del
I think a day can mean any length of time, not literally a day, right?

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:24:00 [Preview] No.2851 del
There's a very specific Christian Chronological reason as to why it has to be 24 hours, since Adam was born on the first month of year zero of the world in the Hebrew luni-solar calendar system. Here's a whole book on "biblical chronology" (if the author finds out that there's a copy of this book floating around, he'll get mad so please don't contact him that you got it from here although this version is not the most updated version, nevertheless)

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:26:55 [Preview] No.2852 del
By the way, ctrl-F david rohl on that pdf and he mentions him twice.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:37:53 [Preview] No.2853 del
So, if 'days' are to be taken literally, how old would that make the Earth?
And do you yourself take 'days' literally?

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:39:49 [Preview] No.2854 del
>In the charts, down the left side of the page, are the years B.C. (see charts, column “A”). The first year is 4139 B.C. The creation was in the spring of 4139 B.C. This makes the world 6174 years old at the next Jubilee in A.D. 2035. Some creationists, while affirming that the world was created in six days, wish to allow history to stretch out to 10,000 years (or more) citing possible gaps in the genealogies or by using the Septuagint. However, the Hebrew Masoretic Text is the best source available. In addition, an additional 4000 years of world history will not help creation- ists to fit geological successions into world history.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:40:27 [Preview] No.2855 del
To put it lightly, I don't believe that any "biblical chronology" works in conjunction with other chronologies that's older than the Hebrew cult without making the biblical chronology false in the christian worldview. This is where I differ from many stupid Christians who are stuck in those mindsets. It might be useful to try to pin certain events to an even more elaborate chronology that goes beyond the context of the bible which is already false but it cannot rely on the bible's chronology all the time. Certain events like the Great Flood for example, happens AFTER the formation of the first Egyptian dynasty yet Christians insist that Egyptians didn't exist prior to the flood. The earlier the events in the bible, the less reliable it is with other chronologies.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:42:51 [Preview] No.2857 del
If you were to force the whole a thousand years for every day interpretation, God planted plants but didn't create the sun until a thousand years after. That means all the plants died out. If you make it even more longer like most old earth creationists force it, it is even more impossible.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:51:22 [Preview] No.2858 del
I have recommended this book before in regards to Biblical chronology and the story of creation, namely:
"Pre-glacial man and the Aryan race" (1887) by Lorenzo Burge
The author thinks that the original source of the NT is far older, and has been misinterpreted, mistranslated or corrupted by the people who were tasked with translating or communicating those older sources.
But I only have read the first few pages (I have a habit of not finishing things ...) so I'd need to finish the book before recommending it.
Might there have been a far older source for the bible itself, you think?

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:54:58 [Preview] No.2859 del
Watch the second link in >>2568 as to where the Hebrews think of "Heaven" has more to do with the Sumerian cults that created the Neolithic movement itself of which I'd say that the Hebrew cult are among those that had left the neolithic civilization in Edin of Ararat.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 00:57:53 [Preview] No.2860 del
Alright, will do.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:01:17 [Preview] No.2861 del
In an extremely strict analysis of Christology (Academia's attempt to understand Christianity without the theological implications), Jesus Christ was a significant figure of which had existed and undeniably a prominent figure among the Judahite believers that didn't back down from their faith that he was a real person. Anything else concerning miracles and such are speculative.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:04:25 [Preview] No.2862 del
Forgot that I already watched it. So the chronology or the story of the Bible cannot be applied to a different time frame than whatever >>2851 defines it as, right?

Yeah, sure.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:06:21 [Preview] No.2863 del
What I'm saying is that the post flood events on that is useful, the pre flood events is not useful in a secular context.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:11:26 [Preview] No.2864 del
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So is this flood the same flood as the flood myths in many ancient texts? I'm not exactly sure where those ancient texts place the floods at, but I remember it being places at 11,500 B.C. multiple times corroborating the sea level changes occurring around that time. The book itself seems to place the event of the flood around that period as well.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:12:52 [Preview] No.2865 del
no it doesn't, read carefully.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:14:27 [Preview] No.2866 del
Sorry, should've clarified that I meant "Pre-glacial man and the Aryan race"

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:16:59 [Preview] No.2867 del
Though of course, there wasn't a single flood in the entirety of history. So, whatever.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:21:07 [Preview] No.2868 del
In the "biblical" chronology, the deluge happens at 2483 B.C. The bible insists that it was a world flood. Some of the more archaeological people say it was a local flood. For some context, the first Egyptian Dynasty starts around year 2773 BC if I'm not mistaken so the bible is just inaccurate, the evidence is against the bible's chronology that it gives out. This is why for a rule of thumb that "biblical" chronology is useless for pre flood crap, but not for post flood events with interactions with other civilizations which can be aligned to make a good theory.

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Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:32:13 [Preview] No.2871 del
Generally, David Rohl's research is nothing to be lightly dismissed about, and any refutation would require very serious information at an immense magnitude which I don't think it would ever really happen since he gets too many things make too much sense. It's best to just give up on trying to think the bible has strict literal value before the events of Abraham. I don't think it makes any sense to claim that Aryans were Hebrews or anything utterly insane like that.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:32:17 [Preview] No.2872 del
Nice timeline, thanks.

What do you think of this, from Diodorus Siculus - Library Of History (LCL279):
>23. The number of years from Osiris and Isis, they say, to the reign of Alexander, who founded 331. b.c. the city which bears his name in Egypt, is over ten thousand, but, according to other writers, a little less than twenty-three thousand. And those who say that the god was born of Semelê and Zeus in Boeotian Thebes are, according to the priests, simply inventing the tale.
@ page 73

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:35:09 [Preview] No.2873 del
>"And those who say that [...]"
Is irrelevant, only the dating part is relevant.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:37:26 [Preview] No.2874 del
>331. b.c.
Accidentally copied with the text ...

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:40:02 [Preview] No.2875 del
The Mesopotamian society pre-existed before the formation of the Egyptian society which the Mesopotamians directly influenced the creation of the Egyptian hieroglyphs, you could even say that they've became the Egyptians. Much of that info is explained more than two-thirds into https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=BjluH0eNt5Y

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:44:04 [Preview] No.2876 del
>[...] for from the latter time to the present the Egyptians reckon more than ten thousand years, but from the Trojan War less than twelve hundred.
@ page 77

>The son of Alcmenê, who was born more than ten thousand years later and was called Alcaeus at birth, [...]
@ page 77

>The priests of the Egyptians, reckoning the time from the reign of Helius to the crossing of 334 b.c. Alexander into Asia, say that it was in round numbers twenty-three thousand years. And, as their legends say, the most ancient of the gods ruled more than twelve hundred years and the later ones not less than three hundred. But since this great number of years surpasses belief, some men would maintain that in early times, before the movement of the sun had as yet been recognized, it was customary to reckon the year by the lunar cycle.
@ page 83

Will stop there because really the whole book is worth reading ;)

Will watch the video.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:49:19 [Preview] No.2877 del
I don't take classical historians literally either, it all needs to be worked out against actual archaeological findings to see what they had missed and what they had gotten correct.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:51:56 [Preview] No.2878 del
Right, and you'd need to create a timeline from the writings of these classical historians to see whether it fits with certain archeological finds, or if it corroborates with the literary works itself.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:54:09 [Preview] No.2879 del
Though, you cannot date carved rock. There needs to be organic remains near the site in order to date it, right?

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 01:56:27 [Preview] No.2880 del
Then again pre-existing sites can be utilized by peoples completely unrelated to the people that created it in the first place ...

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:00:20 [Preview] No.2881 del
It always depends on context if it's necessary or not, if there's certain artifacts at the same level of the excavated location that might already correlate to a timeline, etc., but carbon dating is like the last resort type of deal which gets more and more unreliable the older something actually is.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:04:39 [Preview] No.2882 del
Right, that's true.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:09:25 [Preview] No.2883 del
Aren't you concerned about censorship, cover-ups, or corruption of archeological sites or finds?
I think there have been some, though I'd need to do some research on it.
There have been several times DNA testing and carbon dating has been prevented by the United States Gov. because it had to do with "sacred" Native American sites or skeletal remains (Kennewick man, Lovelock cave)

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:13:48 [Preview] No.2884 del
Those who are afraid to tell the truth haven't told the truth enough to as much as they can to as many people they can.

Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:20:21 [Preview] No.2885 del
Are you aware of any attempts at creating some kind of time-line of the ancient historians regarding this "pre-historic" dating?

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Anonymous 10/15/2018 (Mon) 02:40:19 [Preview] No.2887 del
There is this dinky thing but besides this, no, not aware of a comprehensive dating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_prehistory

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Anonymous 11/09/2018 (Fri) 16:22:34 [Preview] No.3123 del
I missed out on the whole pizzagate fiasco (I was off the chans)
can I get a QRD? I sort of understood that it's the elites masquerading pedophilia terms behind pizza but is there more to it?

Anonymous 11/09/2018 (Fri) 19:43:10 [Preview] No.3125 del
Hard to summarize, but here's something: >>>/pizzagate/
It's mostly people flaunting with them abusing children, I think.
This was a UK government funded 'Art' project >>1969

Anonymous 11/10/2018 (Sat) 06:19:49 [Preview] No.3130 del
Spirit cooking was an artistic sort of satanic ritual. This lead to james alefantis who hosted a pizza party for hillary at comet ping pong. Once on the comet ping pong instagram we saw what was basically like a dexter-esque candid look at an elite satanist. Eventually after people had staged protests outside james alefantis was false flagged so that a gunman came and shot a hole into his computer and nothing more. Then the worldcorp videos came out where skippy (podesta's alter ego) was filmed at comet ping pong scolding a child with water while singing the themesong to caillou. There is also speculation of hillary filleting a childs face off at comet ping pong and there is a screenshot of cctv footage of hillaru laying on a ping pong table at comet ping pong laughing that was proven not fake. I found a photo of obama wearing an occult moloch transexual headdress on instagram and there are satanists in art communities reviling in instagram

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Anonymous 11/10/2018 (Sat) 06:27:37 [Preview] No.3132 del
Hillary had also the servers which she emailed from and during the campaign she had an aid smash over 5 cellphones with hammers. Also people talk about the wikileaks emails of podesta quoting the pizza emails. John podesta also said he was in a "torture chamber " and busy. He also spoke of hillary's "poobah" friends and what they would think about something.
Also james alefantis is said to be james rothschild and one of the richest men in the world as an adrenochrome salesman. Adrenochrome is made by torturing children and extracting the adrenolized blood through the back of the neck with a syringe. He was ranked 50th in the top influental people in washington dc and he owns a pizza parlor and an outdoors goods store.

Anonymous 11/10/2018 (Sat) 06:45:25 [Preview] No.3133 del
I don't doubt they are abusing children but as far as the posts its more of a depraved mock satanic ritual art that suggests actual cult behavior.An over-saturation of symbolism.Its satanism mixed with depravity of all kinds.

Anonymous 11/13/2018 (Tue) 16:09:45 [Preview] No.3150 del
>John podesta also said he was in a "torture chamber " and busy.
No that was his brother Tony Podesta, he said he was still in the torture chamber. Tony also has a underground cinema were he shows films to certain people (I don't think it is your typical Hollywood movie)

Anonymous 11/14/2018 (Wed) 16:00:12 [Preview] No.3163 del
I'm looking for something really specific that I remember posted here:

Does anyone have footage of guillotine test footage? When masonigger used to post webms, there was tons of footage of guillotines. There also used to be a banner of a really low poly guillotine animation. Please help me find this footage, it's urgent.

Anonymous 11/14/2018 (Wed) 17:48:49 [Preview] No.3164 del
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thanks, ill dig into all of it. is this also related to these videos?

Anonymous 11/18/2018 (Sun) 00:41:58 [Preview] No.3179 del
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I think these are them
You also might be thinking of this https://youtube.com/watch?v=VKpQljw6dd0 [Embed]
The reason I don't post webms often is because I have gotten into the habit of trying to make longer videos and what would be a little clip is added to a bigger video.That also makes me put it off and I havn't even started on the next one but that doesn't matter because I already Know what I am gonna do I might make something soon.

Anonymous 11/18/2018 (Sun) 01:03:37 [Preview] No.3184 del
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This is probably the webm your thinking of

Anonymous 11/18/2018 (Sun) 03:28:41 [Preview] No.3186 del
Yes I found that on instagram and its never ending.

Anonymous 12/16/2018 (Sun) 07:35:11 [Preview] No.3231 del
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Might have been this too.

Anonymous 12/26/2018 (Wed) 01:21:40 [Preview] No.3233 del
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This might be it. Forgot I made this lol.Its very simple to do in blender just basic shapes and key-framing.

Anonymous 06/27/2020 (Sat) 17:47:51 [Preview] No.4007 del
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Seeing a lot of black sun imagery. Curious to what it means in occultism. As it is also called sol niger in alchemy. Kind of odd. I try not to think about it but it seems important.

Anonymous 06/27/2020 (Sat) 18:23:34 [Preview] No.4008 del
>Sol niger (black sun) The dark side of light. The nigredo, the initial black stage of the alchemical opus, has been considered the most negative and difficult operation in alchemy. It is also one of the most numinous. Linked to Saturn and Yahweh, the primus anthropos. For the most part, sol niger is equated with and only understood in its nigredo aspect. For untold ages men have worshipped the great god who redeems the world by rising out of darkness as a radiant light into the heavens.

Anonymous 07/08/2020 (Wed) 20:06:34 [Preview] No.4017 del
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Spotted on 5th street and 2nd ave in Manhattan. Any significance to it?

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 00:19:20 [Preview] No.4021 del
I have seen the scissor thing in my area. Not good. Not good at all. Not saying its a kill room but there is nefarious people in Manhattan for sure. Like an American psycho guild spray-painting their turf. Underground access too possibly. They always use the symbolism.

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 00:22:01 [Preview] No.4023 del
fuck its a vape store. Look vaping and adrenochrome. Anything in common? No except maybe for the little glass vials

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 00:24:14 [Preview] No.4025 del
adrenochrome sold or made their under the table.

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Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 01:12:26 [Preview] No.4028 del
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Yeah I thought it was strange that a vape lounge would have barber scissors and a razor in their logo. Also it's bolted and there's a security camera out front. Does anyone know the meaning of the letters on the gate?
I used google maps this time. Looks like this is it when it's open.

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 01:13:58 [Preview] No.4029 del
Actually it looks like I see a barber chair on the inside.

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 01:19:29 [Preview] No.4030 del
seems to be a parlor. will dig more into it there is something here

Anonymous 07/12/2020 (Sun) 01:33:00 [Preview] No.4031 del
Seems strange if there's a lounge where people vape while getting their hair cut, but this is New York.
Pictures of inside and outside:

You can see from these the full phrase on the gate is "linus ragg sculpi" which means nothing as far as I know.

But the same address in google also gives this:

Inside looks completely different. Is that a back room behind the barber shop maybe? Also, it's certified kosher heh.

Another article about the vape lounge:

Anonymous 10/17/2020 (Sat) 09:41:41 [Preview] No.4137 del
possibly a brothel.

Anonymous 10/21/2020 (Wed) 00:40:00 [Preview] No.4138 del
actually most likely a portico to hidden areas and or something in conjunction w/ kill rooms. maybe even adrenochrome.

Anonymous 02/09/2023 (Thu) 13:19 [Preview] No.4722 del
How to recognize masonix handshakes? Few of them seem as ordinary ones to me.

Anonymous 02/09/2023 (Thu) 13:49 [Preview] No.4724 del
Doesn't make a lotta sense. The whole point of being in a secret society that is secret. Why would they give it away?

Anonymous 02/12/2023 (Sun) 03:12 [Preview] No.4725 del
squeezing x amount of times during the shake

Anonymous 09/13/2023 (Wed) 12:30 [Preview] No.4744 del
what can I do if my great grandfather was a stone mason. like what do I look into to learn more about this topic?

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Anonymous 09/18/2023 (Mon) 06:10 [Preview] No.4749 del
pick carpentry instead

Anonymous 12/03/2023 (Sun) 03:29 [Preview] No.4756 del
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few years back, dont remember if it was 2020 or 2021, there was a thread here or on another chan about a man who was wanted by the police for "kidnapping" his daughter. After this news came out there was a video of his supposed daughter who claimed she was "alright and nothing is wrong." lot of anons were speculating the videos of her were AI generated and she probably didnt exist in the first place. I remember there being screenshots of it being posted on 4chan but they would get taken down everytime, cant really find any info on this anymore and wasnt really in the habit of saving things at the time, anyone remember anything like this?

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