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casual talk threda Bernd 04/20/2020 (Mon) 20:23:45 [Preview] No. 36100 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
what's on your mind
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Bernd 09/03/2020 (Thu) 04:21:48 [Preview] No.39729 del
>>39728
Bernds are not satanists. Stop this now.


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>>39728
>>39729
>dank You Lord for Sowtan


sage Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 21:09:28 [Preview] No.39778 del
>>39728
This is so lame


Bernd 12/07/2020 (Mon) 21:03:10 [Preview] No.41396 del
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Have you guys heard about these two countries? Brighton must be a Sub-Saharan African, Southampton probably is somewhere around Morocco.



Neandertals rule the world Bernd 11/20/2020 (Fri) 02:07:35 [Preview] No. 41080 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I watched this stuff a few years ago. some of it is fascinating but most of it is just nuts. Still I think it would interest perhaps a few bernds.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BJeg0zeoums [Embed]

I like this video most, its kind of like an unintentional asmr with the rain falling.
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Bernd 11/27/2020 (Fri) 18:50:57 [Preview] No.41213 del
>>41197
Those reconstructions have to be taken with a hint of salt tho.
>more sophisticated
Their tools were more crude. Well what we know about, stone tools. Large shortcoming of archaeology that only in special circumstances preserve organic remains. Certain building materials can disappear too (eg. adobe).


Bernd 11/29/2020 (Sun) 14:31:07 [Preview] No.41227 del
>>41120
>The possibility of using the biomass of animals that died naturally or were killed by predators for food was provided by a tough instinct that did not allow him to kill anyone.
This sounds familiar.
Since it's not the actual work of Porshnev it's little short on actual data (for example up to the 6th page - where I am now at the moment - zoological data is frequently referred to, but it isn't really there to know what is that data), and more on opinions, but an interesting read nevertheless. Now I have a little time, but not sure if I'm gonna finish, some stuff to do before it gets dark outside.


Bernd 11/29/2020 (Sun) 17:17:57 [Preview] No.41231 del
>>41120
good text im reading it


Bernd 11/29/2020 (Sun) 19:12:05 [Preview] No.41232 del
Read some of that google translated article but haven't reached much further. Some articles about primates and how they perceive death, some observed behaviour; posting it since they are related to the early humans and their possible cannibalistic tendencies (in the article about Porshnev's work it's part of the scavenging habits of theirs).
https://www.livescience.com/6335-chimps-understand-mourn-death-research-suggests.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/gorillas-appear-grieve-their-dead-180971896/
So while it is known that primates sometimes consume deceased adolescent specimens, but it seems it depends more on circumstances. Furthermore they differentiate between the ones belong to their own group, and outsiders. And even outsiders aren't necessarily considered as a food source (the gorillas - the examples of the second article - are largely herbivores).
And one about Neanderthals and nidal and their burials, and possible burials.
https://www.sapiens.org/culture/hominin-burial/

The whole thing made me think if the notion that death is sleep roots in some taboo that we shouldn't eat the dead belonged to our group. "Stop my son, don't chew on grampa's toe, he is just sleeping!"


Bernd 12/05/2020 (Sat) 15:39:10 [Preview] No.41341 del
Made a pdf from the Google translation.



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Communitarianism Bernd 07/23/2020 (Thu) 06:37:16 [Preview] No. 38756 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I want to have a thread about Communitarianism.

What is Communitarianism?

Thesis/Problem:

Monopolistic-Crony CAPITALISM-Corporatism-Mercantilism

+/vs

Antithesis/Reaction:

Judaic-Talmudic COMMUNISM-Cultural Marxism-Kabbalism

=

Synthesis/Solution:

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Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 00:22:13 [Preview] No.41146 del
>>41143
>Is that really a prison?
Sure.
>Without noticing and knowing the difference between being in the prison and not it would lose the meaning.
For you, and other prisoners. I presume that was the point: you won't even think about getting out if don't know you are in. And obviously Sweden implies that not everyone is a prisoner! So there are still those who can tell the difference, the jailers themselves for one.


Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 02:56:26 [Preview] No.41149 del
>>41143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

the panopticon is a good example I think.

"the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched means that they are motivated to act as though they are being watched at all times. Thus, the inmates are effectively compelled to regulate their own behaviour."

read the wiki page attila


Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 04:09:18 [Preview] No.41150 del
>>41149
No, that's different. Knowing there is a panopticon already tells you that you are a (kind of) prisoner.


Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 18:58:38 [Preview] No.41158 del
>>41146
The whole idea behind prison is to give feedback to the prisoner that he was a very bad guy. Crime and punishment.
A person can be captive without being in a prison, slavery is a good example for that. And maybe I would rather use that term for what Swebernd suggested.

>>41149
They know where they are tho. Well, what he said: >>41150


Bernd 12/05/2020 (Sat) 09:37:35 [Preview] No.41321 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAgE1UnqTTw [Embed]

Good video of what communitarianism is

I liked larks description too, its tyranny with a smiley face :)



Bernd 12/01/2020 (Tue) 09:56:26 [Preview] No. 41243 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Did you know that Herod the Great was actually an Arab? He wasn’t even allowed to enter the temple he build.
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Bernd 12/02/2020 (Wed) 06:40:29 [Preview] No.41272 del
>>41256
>Lepers
>Why
They hoped to heal. Also they probably begged for alms.

>>41261
>>41262
Gonna check it out.

>>41264
>is that the same herod
Will depend on the timeline

>>41266
Try Caligula. :^) Maybe Life of Blian.
Read Josephus. It's basically the Old Testament and then some. I remember something about the Jewish guerillas (sicarios), turns out Life of Blian is historically very accurate in the question.


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>>41272
>Try Caligula
>is a 1979 erotic historical drama
I want a movie without sex please.


Bernd 12/02/2020 (Wed) 18:57:15 [Preview] No.41280 del
What's the point of sex scenes in movies anyway?


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Bernd 12/02/2020 (Wed) 19:15:00 [Preview] No.41284 del
>>41280
That depends. In Caligula, that's the main plot, me thinks.
Maybe it caters to the voyeuristic nature of people, and/or maybe movie makers exploit this curiosity.
This might be related to the gossipy nature as well. People like to know stuff about other people, and talk about these stuff. And they would gossip about everything they saw or heard, all the aspects of others' life. Sex is part of that.
And while we at life and what it covers, artists deal in the aspects of life, especially with those which involve emotion and/or desire, and a subset of this is sex.
As previous commenter above somewhere said, you can jump over those, fast forward and that's it.



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Thoughts on The Existence of The Multiverse Bernd 11/26/2020 (Thu) 01:02:57 [Preview] No. 41175 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
>I've been sitting on this idea for a while, and I wanted to see what other people thought about it.

We know that space is constantly expanding in every direction. We also know that the universe contains reality itself, along with time and space. Then, technically, wouldn't time and space be expanding as well? If it is, then reality would be expanding infinitely along with time and space, creating alternate universes and realities in its wake.

This made sense in my autistic brain, and I just wanted to see if it made sense to anyone else.
(This is my first time posting on endchan, so please let me know if this was posted on the wrong board.)


Bernd 11/26/2020 (Thu) 01:24:35 [Preview] No.41176 del
jews are evil in every time line anon.


Bernd 11/26/2020 (Thu) 06:37:08 [Preview] No.41178 del
>I've been sitting on this idea for a while
uncomfortable, wasn't it? i recommend you clean your behind next time you poop one of these



THE NEWS Bernd 06/30/2019 (Sun) 11:52:12 [Preview] No. 27730 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Old one reached pmub limit.

Btw old. Instead of some news here's some olds, a bunch of photos found by a dumpster in BP - they were digitalized and uploaded to Fortepan (http://fortepan.hu/) I already mentioned in previous news threads.
https://index.hu/fortepan/2019/06/30/amerikai_fotok_alkotas_ut_kuka_dr_haas_lajos/
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Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 14:45:36 [Preview] No.41154 del
>>41145
>When Erdogan was friends with gülenists and PKK international media didn't care much about him, but then he switched gülenists for the military, as a prerequisite ditching PKK
Correct, it's just he didn't switch for lulz, something forced his hand, we can't know what exactly.

Something to add here not all more western leaning military are gulenists, it's just gülenists caused leakage of state secrets to USA. All military agents has been compromised.

>. As the military is less favorable to Western aims his international image was tarnished. Now he's drifting back towards PKK and away from the military, because of this his image improves.
Yup.

> And will his stance towards gülenists change?
Has to be. IF he pulls it of sucessfully.

> Where is his powerbase if he drifts away from the military?
That's the problem, end of the road.. If he tries to purge military to put back gülenists again well, gülenists are not in military position to pull of such purge anymore.

This last siutation we talk about kind of makes it complicated.

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Bernd 11/24/2020 (Tue) 18:07:49 [Preview] No.41157 del
>>41154
>busy lately but I will write
That's ok. Take your time.


Bernd 12/20/2020 (Sun) 11:26:38 [Preview] No.41691 del
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>>41157
Gülenism:

An American backed, Gladio-cultivated group inserted during the 80's coup as a fundamentalist religious cult neck deep in espionage, crime, assassination, extortion, terrorism, coup, social engineering and ideological indoctrination. Their ties with CIA has long been proven, if not explicitly disclosed by the USA itself.

This is the group that have been working tooth and nail to bring down the secular republic, the very foundation of Turkey. Republicanism in Turkey is not a political perspective, it's one of the main bodies of how the state works. Gulenists have been working for decades to bring down that pillar. Not only they are against the main existence of Turkey itself, but they act as pawns of the US. They remove their opponents, extort large business owners, get paid from very dark sources, insert their people into everywhere, from American colleges to Turkish state institutions. Lately I even heard about them having part in recruiting to isis.

When I say assassination I'm not exaggerating. The word itself is probably too light to describe the violent ways they use to get rid of journalists and political figures that often brought out their crap into the public. They also had a play in the assassination of the military researchers/engineers that take place in Turkey frequently, much like the assassination of Iranian scientists. They can hide themselves as anything, from progressive islamists to Turkish nationalists. In truth they serve to nothing but global neoliberalism and their own inner monstrosities.

They mostly based upon "moderate islam though" Moderate enough to be consumarist, pro-american laptog, islamist enough to be jihadi pawns of USA. Before AKP they were infiltrating, after AKP they were specifically placed in bureucracy. Under no circumstances assume these people have any kind of patriotism, they don't they only serve themselves to suceed they serve USA.

AKP: Erdogs party. They started their journey with liboş (Turkish liberashkas, "colonial elite" people) and "moderate islamist" gülenists. They were massively pro PKK, they even called their dead equal with Turkish martryrs. The only reason why the military didn't fuck them over with coup d'etad is general staff was secretly gülenist. It was one of the reasons why the military failed to counter PKK. Because of the "don't shoot if they don't shoot against you". Many of independent sources confirm this. Eventually AKP strenghten their pro-PKK positing due to consistent and intentional military failures, with the "don't let mothers cry anymore" rhetoric. While all of these were happening, the west celebrating our democracy while our constitution were repedeatly raped.

TSK: Turkish military forces. Elite of the elites of the republic. Every state that it worths their salt has a deep state that keeps the state together, in Russia it's the intelligence, in Turkey it's the military. TSK have legal status and responsibility to protect the constitution, because common rabble won't you can trust me on that. So coups are actually LEGAL.

With Ergenekon and Balyoz kangoroo courts, the military purged worse than what happened in france during french revolution. Especially navy forces got hit so bad. It was one of the reasons why Greece so easily working on their ways to de-facto blockade us from the medditerranean and create national threat against us thanks to traitors amongst us.

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Bernd 12/20/2020 (Sun) 11:28:32 [Preview] No.41692 del
>>41691
Cont

TSK is stauncly kemalists and they are the only institution that they got it right. They have pro-NATO and eurasianist officers but none of them are eager to leave NATO, it's not about liking Russia or anything like that it's just pragmatism, in 90's we had military with eurasianist tendency. Needless to say USA didn't like it when we fucked over PKK and make Abdullah Öcalan talk like a bitch. They stopped disliking our military after Iraq invasion, they started to vehemently hate it.

USA don't want us allies they want us as dominions that is checked with other dominions such as kurdistan. So of course they bitch about muh genocide even when our "invasions" are very gentle on civilian deaths. According to treaty of Laussane and international laws we have right to intervene when a non state actors (such as terrorists) run amok in next to our borders.

CHP: Atatürk's party but not so much nowadays. There are pro-PKK CIA assets in the party the most notable one is TR705. After 2010's head of CHP Deniz Baykal has forced to resign becuse he was banging a female parliment member and gülenists taped it. They replaced him with a "social democrat guy". Every secularists that has 3 digit IQ knows we are nothing without military because we're something like Ashkenazi Jews in germany(hence the "white Turks" term), without military we have no hard power so we can be easily opressed. But of course this massive retard claims they come with vote and will go with vote, he doesnt even mention about our constitution getting raped. Appereantly our constitution is there for shits and gigles and people can do everything with votes.

The parties are in Turkey are not elected by popular vote but with delagtes. Since the delagtes are alevis from Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's hometown, they mindlessly elect him despite consistent epic fails. The guy image amongst people, even amongst CHP voters is a fucking joke.
Before AKP most of our people were secular, islamist parties at best getting %15-20 of the votes. But CHP's weak attitude and letting secularists stuck in Thrace and coastal region is the thing that let AKP stays in power. CHP especially after 2010's intentionally tried to portray Atatürk as quasi libleft figure, as you can guess most people get Atatürk wrong, CHP's voterbase amongst anatolia has been diminished because of this. In 2018 presidental elections Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu most likely betrayed Muharrem İnce, there was massive fraud going on and the guy claims the party intentionally didn't place inspectors on voting boxes.

If you don't have balls you don't get votes from outside of the coasts. Compromising in Anatolia don't work. We have autocratic mentality, these retards are disconnected from reality.


MHP: Their predecessor has been created because CHP has been deviate from nationalism and Ataturk's ideals. This what Alparslan Türkeş claims, de-facto the founder of MHP. They are islamo-turkists, even though religion and nation still clashes in this nation, so being nationalist and conservative is not a realistic option here, you'll eventually disregard one of them. But of course MHP begs to differ.

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Bernd 12/20/2020 (Sun) 11:29:20 [Preview] No.41693 del
>>41692
Vatan Partisi: They got %0.22 of votes but why it is important? Because head of the party is an old KGB asset. He used to be communists but since communism is kys'd and eurasianism and EU sceptism is main ideology of Russia, he supports them. he guy used to get support of military staff that got purged with kangoroo courts but his support is kind of diminished. Massive eurasianists, openly calling to leave NATO. Despite they have meagre votes, they casually go meetings with Russia and China.
They are so eurasianists they call Uyghur Turks as terrorists and think CCP is right about them.

HDP: Pro-PKK party and don't even hide it. The only reason why they are not shut down because erdoğan scares half of the voterbase votes for CHP. They got higher votes for targeting hippie, left-liberals before that the predecessor party got %5 so they couldn't enter the parliment. Used to be Erdoğans best buddies.

İYİP: It was created as progressive MHP (dont take the word progressive as pidor WECTern word) then eventually turned into centre right since they purged elite ex military nationalists. It is rumored to become gülenist haven, but since peoples eyes have blinded by erdoğan hatred they usually disregard anything that comes from the other side.



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Markets/Economy thread Bernd 04/20/2020 (Mon) 18:56:17 [Preview] No. 36092 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
The oil price right now is in the negative holy shit.
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Bernd 11/20/2020 (Fri) 01:47:32 [Preview] No.41078 del
>>41077
is he also investing in eastern poland


Bernd 11/20/2020 (Fri) 06:46:08 [Preview] No.41081 del
>>41077
Never tried stock market so I dunno. The last football manager I played with is from about 1999-2005 not sure which season, might have lotta things changed. I can't really see how those things could be applied to stock market. Sure player prices change but does that enough of a parallel?
You can ask your friend to explain.


Bernd 11/21/2020 (Sat) 06:31:39 [Preview] No.41092 del
>>41077
I'm an amateur and have never played Football manager games either so take what I say with a grain of salt but anyway.


I guess it depends because there are two aspects to the stock market that sometimes overlap but not always. You have the real world company and it's operations and you have patterns on the share market. Many traders don't need to know about a company at all, they just look at patterns and act on those, this is particularly common for day traders and to some extend swing traders, day traders just check what shares are moving the most in the morning and then stare at a screen for hours watching for movements of the share price and when they expect the share is about to move in a certain direction based on patterns, swing trading is like this but has more of a basis in the real world as it's not just happening over one morning so can be impacted by global events. A game like football manager might have similar patterns and strategies that might help with this.

The other aspect is the real world company itself, and that takes much more research and knowledge about the global economy and the company itself but this is more for long term investment or for spotting opportunities to invest in a company that is cheap now but about to explode.


Bernd 11/21/2020 (Sat) 16:48:28 [Preview] No.41103 del
>>41077
Technicallies? Maybes? I mean, stocks are mostly random, like football teams. idk


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Seeing this thread made me regret not investing in crypto when the prices were down in the first half of the year. Genuinely feels like a missed opportunity and lost money tbh



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Why were the ottomans so successful? Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 02:19:32 [Preview] No. 39794 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
This is something that isn't logical to me. From what i've read, the ottomans was a bunch of nomads invading anatolia, tamerlane defeated them soundly, they managed to take Constantinople and then became the big threat to christianity. How did they do it? How could they raise so much men, hundreds of thousands, time and time again?

Doesn't really make any sense to me.
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Bernd 11/13/2020 (Fri) 13:38:49 [Preview] No.40960 del
>>40956
I know his hometown actually, quite far from my place, his city bordering syria actually.


Bernd 11/13/2020 (Fri) 17:05:54 [Preview] No.40962 del
>>40960
what do you think is the purpose for the syrian conflict? greater israel? cant be that many syrians living in syria now right?


Bernd 11/15/2020 (Sun) 11:59:04 [Preview] No.41005 del
>>40962
Israel has demographics problem. Palestinians would outbirth them if not for the orthodox Jews, who breed like rabbits. Not sure about the policies of Israel, but they are aware of this threat, and they are struggle with this since the foundation of the Jewish state. For their luck they got Jewish immigrants from the ex-commie states after 1990, but it is unlikely they'll get more from anywhere in the future, so they have to face the problem locally.
Getting more lands would mean getting more goyim which would tip the current balance of ethnicities. Besides more Muslims (since they would gain more Muslims) means security threat, they would gain more such people whom they want to keep out, more fundamentalists and Jihadists.
While there is the dream of Greater Israel, the reality is that it's a pipe dream.


Bernd 11/15/2020 (Sun) 12:28:43 [Preview] No.41006 del
>>40962
It was for american imperialism, while assad family is not the greatest thing in the world, its hardly justifiable to stir shit up in their land.

Before AKP we had several "offers" to intervene in syria, some offers were from muslim brotherhood and some were from Türkmens themselves, needless to say we didn't intervene, too much balkanization and destablized borders would eventually affect us, but current party needs to divert the attention to foreign politics and make neo ottomanist fools happy. That's why erdo insisting so much in syrian conflict.

You can also listen what the hungarian say, israel by nature is extremely revisionist state, their "promised lands" includes some parts of southern Turkey, so I would beware, but right now it's just a far future thing.


Bernd 11/15/2020 (Sun) 15:43:24 [Preview] No.41011 del
>>41005
>Israel has demographics problem. Palestinians would outbirth them if not for the orthodox Jews, who breed like rabbits.

Considering that Arab demographic pool is unlimited (because not only local Palestinians matter, but neighbors), Israel would lose demographic race even if they'll be on par with Arabs, just because Middle East is filled with Arabs anyway.

So, only solution for them are deportations, so they slowly trying to drive Palestinians away. And this works, at least for now.

But compared to other countries, Israel has pretty healthy demographics even without orthodoxes (i.e. non-declining).



Bernd 11/04/2020 (Wed) 11:18:10 [Preview] No. 40851 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Has any bernd ever been to the supposedly miraculous Holy Fire ceremony in Jerusalem? Is it true that it doesn't burn you for 33 minutes?
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Bernd 11/10/2020 (Tue) 17:56:24 [Preview] No.40934 del
>>40923
Ok. I understand now.
I think it's easy to hide somewhere a lighter somewhere. But that's modern technology. How did they do it previously when even no matches existed?
There are options ofc, a magnifying glass conveniently placed where the sun can shine through, but when they do this process? But doing it with firesteel and sparks isn't that easy, or making friction fire, that would have been noticed. Well, the easiest to light a fire is with another fire. So I'd assume a burning candle must be somewhere.
What material that could be?


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>>40934
>I think it's easy to hide somewhere a lighter somewhere. But that's modern technology. How did they do it previously when even no matches existed?

Using an oil lamp or similar thing. They can be pretty compact and small.


Bernd 11/13/2020 (Fri) 17:24:35 [Preview] No.40963 del
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Fire
>The ceremony was marred in 2002 when a disagreement between the Armenian and Greek bishops over who should emerge first with the Holy Fire led to a struggle between the factions. In the course of the scuffle, the Greek Patriarch twice blew the Armenian's candle out, forcing him to reignite his "Holy Fire" using a cigarette lighter, while the Greek Patriarch was despoiled of one of his shoes. In the end the Israeli Police entered the premises to restore order.
εβιν

>>40958
Yeah, they could place an oil lamp somewhere hidden, maybe there's some secret shelf so it don't lit the room.
The wiki article talks about blue flame. Gas? Like will-o'-the-wisp?
Tried to find a video on 'tube, naively thought finally we surely have some good footage of the phenomenon. No.
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Bernd 11/13/2020 (Fri) 19:02:50 [Preview] No.40967 del
>>40963
>εβιν

There are plenty of stories about that fire and that place overall, they often pretty ebin, just because these guys (Greeks and Armenians) are funny people by themselves.

One story in Russian internet (with several links to different books, but without easy googlable sources) says that in 18th century, after long dispute and conflict with Greeks, Armenians lost and were forced to eat human feces from large stone container near that church:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://diak-kuraev.livejournal.com/2409028.html

>The wiki article talks about blue flame. Gas? Like will-o'-the-wisp?

Some sources speculate that combination of boric and sulfuric acids with specific cloth gives same effect - low-temperature flame with blue or green color.


Bernd 11/14/2020 (Sat) 20:28:07 [Preview] No.40995 del
>>40967
Heh. The true believers of the past of any faith went through such ordeals for their fate it's unbelievable.
>without easy googlable sources
So many things aren't digitalized yet. Or don't have a translations to different languages.

I'm also thinking about alcohol, those also burns with bluish flames. But spirits are fairly new inventions.



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Bernd 10/31/2020 (Sat) 17:14:59 [Preview] No. 40802 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Polish bernds, explain, IMMEDIATELY.
>According to United States Congress Joint Immigration Commission which ended in 1911, Polish immigrants to the United States born in around Kraków reportedly declared themselves as Bielochrovat (i.e. White Croat)
Why would Polacks call themselves White Croats? Are Poles and Croats lost brothers???
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Bernd 10/31/2020 (Sat) 17:54:36 [Preview] No.40811 del
Okay so first of all I have never heard term Bielochrovat in my life, it doesn't even sound polish (unlike Krakus and Krakowiak which are well known).

I tried to google some info and of course wiki comes up first
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Croats
White Croats, or simply known as Croats, were a group of Early Slavic tribes who lived among other West and East Slavic tribes in the area of modern-day Lesser Poland, Galicia (north of Carpathian Mountains), Western Ukraine, and Northeastern Bohemia. They were documented primarily by foreign medieval authors and managed to preserve their ethnic name until the early 20th century, primarily in Lesser Poland (Lesser Poland is where Kraków is btw). It is considered that they were assimilated into Czech, Polish and Ukrainian ethnos,and are one of the predecessors of the Rusyn people. In the 7th century, some White Croats migrated from their homeland, White Croatia, to the territory of modern-day Croatia in Southeast Europe along the Adriatic Sea, forming the ancestors of the South Slavic ethnic group of Croats.

>Are Poles and Croats lost brothers???
It unironically might be. I was in Croatia and I found it very easy to communicate with them because their language seemed similar, in fact more similar than Czech. I also knew a Croatian dude on internets, we spoke primarily in english of course but sometimes we would start speaking slav for fun and it was the sames.


Bernd 10/31/2020 (Sat) 17:57:10 [Preview] No.40812 del
>>40811
The ease of communications with Croatians were also confirmed by all of people I know who had contact with them.


Bernd 10/31/2020 (Sat) 22:23:41 [Preview] No.40815 del
>>40810
no I'm from croatia, don't know why my flag is portugal
I haven't been on this board for a long time is this some joke


Bernd 11/01/2020 (Sun) 08:22:37 [Preview] No.40818 del
>>40815
>don't know why my flag is portugal
Probably because you use .org
Try .net, the geolocation is more precise, Croatia has nice hat.


Bernd 11/03/2020 (Tue) 21:09:21 [Preview] No.40847 del
Found something in Hungarian, short Abstract as intro in English.
http://www.rmki.kfki.hu/~lukacs/RUSYNS.htm
Seems to be a presentation on a conference, some historical stuff, but given by a physicist. Chiefly about Northern Hungarians and Rusyns, but a section is about White Croats.
The author also knows about that document mentioning ~100 000 White Croats (he gives a link where it is/was published, it seems it redirects to elsewhere now), emigrated to the US from around Krakow. He adds, that up to about 1860 the average Polish serf did not call himself a Pole, those were the nobles, but he identified himself as a local ethnicity. He does not mention how this Bielochrovat ethnicity could survive about a millennia without being mentioned anywhere, tho it isn't his point anyway.
In the Appendix some further info. About the founders of Kiev funny coincidence - elsewhere this was our topic, that they were Alans, and the Alans supposedly had three tribes: Serboi, Choroates, and Antae. Choroates seems to be the Croats. The Nestor chronicle preserved three names of three leader of the founders Kyj, Scsek, and Khoryv - in the third Croat was preserved. As elsewhere we talked about, a theory identifies them as Hungarians: Kő, Csák, and Geréb.
Croats being Alans originally would mean, they had Iranian language first, and they changed to Slavic later during their ethnogenesis (similarly how Bulgarians left behind their Turkic language).

Hungarian Wikipee also calls them - what I could transliterate as - visyan or vislan.