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15th of November - Republic Day Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 01:56:56 [Preview] No. 20613
Today we celebrate and glorify Pedro II's overthrow in a military coup 129 years ago, marking our transformation into a banana republic. The strongman who led the coup is even in every 25 cent coin.
As typical, Temer spoke about the virtues and strength of liberal democracy even though the Braganza were more liberally democratic than the following regimes.

Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 06:31:38 [Preview] No.20615 del
Happy Republic Day! May you experience many more merry coups, Brazil!
>As typical, Temer spoke about the virtues and strength of liberal democracy even though the Braganza were more liberally democratic than the following regimes.
This is what you get when people mix up republic with democracy, monarchy with dictatorship.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 11:32:28 [Preview] No.21021 del
Numismatic thread?
curious ones >>>/librejp/136119

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 13:21:57 [Preview] No.21023 del
I don't have much experience with rare coins myself, but a friend of mine who worked in a supermarket once found one of these in his register, swapped it for a coin of his own and then later sold it online for like £100. I'm still jelly to this day.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 17:00:14 [Preview] No.21028 del
I had some hyperinflated Hungarian banknote from the end of WWII, before they changed to HUF. Also some good pre-war ones. I should still have them somewhere I dunno where tho.
I'm not much of numismatic enthusiast.
These >>21021 seem clever but kitsch.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 17:26:52 [Preview] No.21029 del
it's murrican, checks out
Although I would think those are 'pop' coins not state minted (still the one with the sword and the Graal graving is nice, kitsch and all)

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 17:42:58 [Preview] No.21030 del
Maybe they were ordered by a lodge or something. Especially the second one have such symbols but the grail on the first one could also be considered as a sign.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 18:18:52 [Preview] No.21032 del
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Let's get some more obscure ones in here.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 20:46:33 [Preview] No.21036 del
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Truly the predecessor of the pure-blooded Daco-Romanians.
Wikipedia says those coins were discovered in stashes which means we can't be sure when they were minted, by whom and how they found their way to their place of rest. No wonder several theories exist for their origin.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 20:47:44 [Preview] No.21037 del
gold is valuable commodity indeed.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 21:02:40 [Preview] No.21039 del
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Howdy, new-germanic servant! Check it out, I'm made of döner!

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 21:05:13 [Preview] No.21040 del
>Check it out, I'm made of döner!
Speaking of that, I'm suprised we still didnt make a statue made of döner.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 21:09:13 [Preview] No.21041 del
Wouldn't be too hard to whittle one from that stack of meat. But then, it would go rancid fast, not a good material for sculpting.

Bernd 12/05/2018 (Wed) 21:44:30 [Preview] No.21043 del
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Oh, coins. I have some, although they aren't really rare.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 06:31:20 [Preview] No.21048 del
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Rushka using rubble as currency. How fitting.
A well traveled gentleman I see.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 08:24:08 [Preview] No.21049 del
in long gone days I used to keep a small collection of coins from countries our family visited on vacation
if I recall correctly (doubtful) it may now lie in a box my brother and I use to keep buried in a sekrit location in the back of the old family house now sold

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 10:07:41 [Preview] No.21050 del

Yeah, it has relatively same value.

Main theory says that word "ruble" is related to "rubit'" (рубить, to chop). Like it was chopped part of grivna (old Russian money, that name remained in Ukraine). Ruble also have folk name "wooden".


I've never been in countries where these coins are made, except Bulgaria (and Russia of course). That's from old times of family.

Most coins are not rare souvenir rubles from USSR times though, only these on photo are relatively rare.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 13:11:19 [Preview] No.21051 del
>When, long ago, the gods created Earth
>In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
>The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
>Yet were they too remote from humankind.
>To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
>Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
>A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
>Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
What did he mean by this?

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 15:01:39 [Preview] No.21052 del
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>Maybe they were ordered by a lodge
/horror/ would surely have things to say about those
>the grail on the first one could also be considered as a sign
could also? it is probably among the original ones, if eco's pendulum is anything to go by

coin unrelated

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>It is a mistake to allow Jews to mingle with Aryans as social equals. I have
>never been forced to do this, & at high school I drew the colour line at Jews as
>well as negroes, though of course there is no racial comparison between the two
>classes of undesirables.

>But I, thank the Gods, am an Aryan, & can rejoice in the glorious victory of T.
>Flavius Vespasianus, under whose legions the Jewish race & their capital were
>trodden out of national existence! I am an anti-Semitic by nature, but thought
>I had concealed my prejudice in my remarks concerning Isaacson. I showed him
>every consideration in my article, carefully saying that I attacked not the man,
>but the ideas. However, if Jerusalem wishes to start trouble, he will find in me
>a new Titus, eager to inscribe on my eagles the triumphant legend IVDAEA CAPTA!

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 15:41:35 [Preview] No.21054 del
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>But I, thank the Gods, am an Aryan
Kek, classic American

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 16:48:32 [Preview] No.21055 del
He meant negers should sit at the back of the bus.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 16:50:45 [Preview] No.21056 del
Do you have the Mexican version of picrel?

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 17:16:41 [Preview] No.21059 del
Isn't this it already? :^)

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 17:24:41 [Preview] No.21064 del
There was another version of that meme right there, but instead of an American LARPing as a "Wiking" and worshipping Thor, it's a Mexican LARPing as an Aztec and worshipping Huitzilopochtli.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 18:48:11 [Preview] No.21065 del
And there's another version with a Turk attempting to worship Tengri.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 19:05:04 [Preview] No.21067 del
I haven't seen that one. Maybe you'd have more luck asking on one of the other more populated KC boards or something.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 21:06:01 [Preview] No.21076 del
Speaking of that, it's ironic that Americans always LARP as "Wikings" and sperg about "my ancestors!" all the time, even though the reason they're in America is that they're literally descended from the puritans.

Bernd 12/06/2018 (Thu) 22:38:00 [Preview] No.21082 del
Well assuming that's true, a mistake going on for a few hundred years won't going to erase the thousands of years tradition and belief. homewer neo-paganisms are flawed mainly because they are neo, european paganism tradition mainly die out.

It would be very logical to assume, paganisms and their splitoff local beliefs were represantor of the peoples lifestyles, by lifestyle I mean pretty much everything not glamour and fashion. So when you revive a thing you must both interconnect with your ancestors(assuming the person is into it) also it has to fit the present age as paganisms were mostly not dogmatic.

This is for neo paganisms of course, people dont show attention to already existing paganisms simply because they are not hype and holywood don't bastardized praised them for their own likings, made them another buyable tool, it's kinda similar to new age buddhism hype actually.

Bernd 12/09/2018 (Sun) 07:41:02 [Preview] No.21113 del
Oh, where did the fillér go? It's the change of the HU Forint they retracted (or how you call it) it years ago. And then the 1 and 2 HUF. Now the smallest denomination is 5 HUF. Shamefur dispray.
I've never seen this type of coin. When I was a kid we had 10, 20 and 50 fillér.

Bernd 12/09/2018 (Sun) 23:25:36 [Preview] No.21137 del
>european paganism tradition mainly die out.

They didn't die, but pretty much incorporated into Christianity nowadays. Even concept of saints is more pagan than Christian (considering original Christianity), although church already fixed all problems with theological works and transformed itself. Superstitions and folk traditions also are pretty pagan things.

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 01:10:03 [Preview] No.21139 del
>(considering original Christianity)
it's an original christian concept

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 06:47:10 [Preview] No.21140 del
By dying out I mean their tradition mostly archieved by christian priests and nowadays paganism as paganism, not as tradition dieded out. I want to mean that, not saying it vanished out of nowhere.

And saintdom I think more related with ancestor worhsip/veneration, arguably even older than paganisms, if not the oldest concept in paganism.

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 07:09:19 [Preview] No.21143 del
>it's an original christian concept

It depends on form and scale. Some protestants considering this as idolatry for reasons.

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 19:05:32 [Preview] No.21164 del
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Got that one.

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 19:08:47 [Preview] No.21165 del
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Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 19:42:35 [Preview] No.21170 del
Fun. Had a giggle.

Well, the coming up of the idea of saints is original thought of Christians. But I think it was a way of accommodating pagan practices and wasn't part of the core ideas of the early Christians (I think in the Apostolic Age). Might be wrong. When was St. Peter canonized?

Bernd 12/10/2018 (Mon) 20:54:29 [Preview] No.21173 del
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ebin xDDD. we don't call call it tengri btw, we call it tanrı. the 'g' in tengri is not actually 'g' it's 'ng' the stress is on n not g, so the g has fallen out in western Turkic languages.

Bernd 12/13/2018 (Thu) 23:54:34 [Preview] No.21257 del
I'll still use this thread for important historical dates.

Exactly 50 years ago, on the 13th of November, 1968, General Costa e Silva, elected President by Congress two years earlier, decreed the fifth and last of the military regime's Institutional Acts, legally establishing press censorship, arbitrary arrests, federal intervention in state and municipal administration, the temporary dissolution of Congress, a ban on unauthorized political public meetings and a presidential right to sack disloyal public officials.
After four years of dictatorship with most civil liberties intact, this act cemented central power and the position of hardliners.
It was passed amidst a crackdown on a wave of opposition activity. Although most of the population passively endorsed the regime, dissidents were getting very vocal.
What followed was the zenith of military rule: although hundreds (on both sides) died in political violence, hardline dictatorial rule was strong and stable, with a successful propaganda machine and sky-high economic growth. Only by 1974 did this wear off and the existing political and economic model begin to show its contradictions, with the opposition making major gains within elections for the (powerless) Legislative which also shows elections weren't rigged and government victories in 1966 and 1970 were genuine. Moderates won back power in the same year and commenced a very slow thaw, revoking all five Institutional Acts in 1978.

Journalists and intellectuals are all talking unanimously about how this event was a massive setback for the nation and we need to revoke amnesty and hunt down and arrest every senile officer involved in political repression.

Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 23:50:34 [Preview] No.21686 del
I want to shoot anyone who claims certain Turkish foods are foreign. Even if their origin and name %100 Turkish they just claim it, I don't get it, why cant they just come up with their own shit? I hate them and I hate their media power and I hate people believe anything as long as it's repeated enough.

god damn motherfuckers.

Bernd 12/31/2018 (Mon) 07:52:53 [Preview] No.21779 del
Your post looks strangely off topic. Considering you posted the sarma on the same day coincidentally... I wonder what's the background of this.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:52:57 [Preview] No.24146 del
Precisely 55 years ago General Olímpio Mourão Filho (former Integralist intelligence agent) ordered the 4th Infantry Division to march south towards Rio de Janeiro. Forces initially loyal to the government refused to fight their brothers. The 1st Division moved from the city for a clash, but instead joined forces with them. (My father witnessed the moving columns and mentions there was talk of civil war). The 3rd Division considered fighting but gave up. Naval and aviation elements wanted to fight but the loyalist leadership did not want a standoff against the U.S. Navy which was ready to support the insurrection.
High ranking officers intended to act a few days later, but Mourão Filho was hasty. Newspapers ran articles against President Goulart. He fled to Uruguay, and even before he had left the country, the head of the Lower House had temporarily taken over the Executive. Congress then elected Chief of staff Castello Branco as President. The Democratic Revolution of 1964 (or coup, if you wish to call it so) was complete.

Bolsonaro has a glorified view of the events and ordered the Armed Forces to organize celebrations of the events. The military itself never called for anything of the kind and would rather keep quiet, it was the Presidency's initiative. After a lot of controversy and legal objections only some events were held.
Bolsonaro has been accused of attempting to rewrite history. But history is written by the winners and he happens to be the loser: vengeful oppositionists created the current image of what happened back then and Bolsonaro is a nostalgic, frustrated representative of the other side.
I could be called a 64 apologist but not from Bolsonaro's mythicized perspective.
And politically this is a stupid move and needlessly creates friction. He should change the image of the past in more subtle ways.

Bernd 03/31/2019 (Sun) 17:56:44 [Preview] No.24147 del
Newspapers have devoted several pages to tell readers what they're supposed to believe and that it was a very sad day. Other news are about how streets named after the period still exist. This is a bit hypocritical given that the 1930 military coup is politically correct and acceptable (every city has an avenue celebrating Getúlio Vargas, who also brutalized dissidents, and eminent institutions are named after him) and the 1889 coup is even celebrated as a national holiday.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 04:53:33 [Preview] No.24621 del
Is this a one time thing or they are making it an official celebration repeated every year (not necessarily a national holiday)?

Maybe 1930 and 1889 counts as long time ago in Brasil and for many people these events are now politically neutral habbenings. I can't see how but maybe it is.

Bernd 04/09/2019 (Tue) 22:42:54 [Preview] No.24650 del
>Is this a one time thing or they are making it an official celebration repeated every year (not necessarily a national holiday)?
Given the negative repercussion and the fact that the Armed Forces themselves never asked for it, it won't happen again.

>Maybe 1930 and 1889 counts as long time ago in Brasil and for many people these events are now politically neutral habbenings. I can't see how but maybe it is.
To a large extent, yes, 1964 is still seen through emotional lens of vengefulness or nostalgia. But 1889 and 1930 are more than politically neutral, they're politically positive or mixed. Each event's remembrance depends on the propaganda of political regimes and the size of the old regime's followers after the fact.

On 1889 Pedro II had broad popular support but elites were united against him. The nation's entire symbology with aesthetics dating back to pre-colonial times was replaced with Republican symbology and the Republic was worshipped unyieldingly in public rhetoric. Monarchists were just fringe far right groups with no signifance. The new generations gradually assimilated this and came to see the Empire as a "wrong" state of affairs.

1930 has both positive and negative images. Vargas was charismatic and had a brilliant propaganda machine. On 1945 he was pushed out of power by liberal officers and civilians but politics in the next 20 years were defined by the conflict between his supporters and detractors. Both the main populist party and the main centrist elitist party were in his camp, and he was still hugely popular and managed to win the Presidency through the popular vote. At the end, facing a crisis, he left behind a pompous note ("I leave life to enter history") and killed himself, making him a martyr. So a positive image of Vargas lingered on, though it's not unanimous.

1964 was initially popular and had its own propaganda, but the regime began to lose support. Most importantly, despite censorship oppositionists slowly expanded their presence in the intelligentsia. The government itself didn't notice or didn't act on this, and one general working in the intelligence service had a "boiling pot" theory that opposition sentiment should be allowed to vent out through peaceful means so it doesn't grow explosive. So now the intelligentsia overwhelmingly hates the military and in the new democratic political climate only fringe elements like one unknown Rio de Janeiro alderman with a military background defend the regime.

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