>>9058
Religious Amerilards who refuse to see that everyone matures differently as well as the fact that most sluts in the US loose their virginity during High School. Ironically a disproportionate amount of those Amerilards are sluts themselves who lost it during High School.

Kids of these days are so infantilized if they started sex in the age of 25 it would be still early.

>>9061
>Hungary

I doubt feminism and nigger music is much of a problem in your side of the world. So why are you saying this?

>>9062
I think teenagers are detached from reality.
Back in the "good old days" about hundred years ago and earlier kids grow into the reality of life. While they had time to be kids they were involved gradually into the life of the family, they gradually learned to handle responsibility. They had their parents, grandparents and any other older members of the family as an example in all kinds of situations. The whole adult life played in front of their eyes.
Now parents are working where they cannot see them, they spend only brief time together daily, grandparents live elsewhere or in nursing homes. The kids tucked into schools too long with other clueless kids then they go home and watch tv or hang out on the internet and get the examples from there. Usually the wrong examples.
And so on and so forth.

>>9058
why fuck these 13yos when you can fuck 25yos with the same kind of body

>>9063
>Now parents are working where they cannot see them

Yeah, this is a big problem in the US too, shitloads of irresponsible adults have kids without having the financial means or family support to do so. This results in both parents working while the kid is in a daycare or the grandparents act as parents. The results of this in the US are spoiled brats, or dysfunctional kids due to corporal punishment, or just total lack of any form of discipline.

Sometimes however it's just straight up shit parenting here in the US, which leads to lazy parents expecting Schools and TV to parent their kids. This leads to kids getting exposed to feminism and nigger music.

>>9064
>25 yos

Here in the US they've been through the cock carousel, while in Europe they've been raped and mentally scarred by Abdul and Mohammed.

>>9065
There is literally nothing wrong with nigger music.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MSRY3xvL7R0 [Embed]

>>9073
Age of consent is 14 here. Divorce rate: 60%.

>>9077
fug :DDD
we have 16 here, I wonder about divorces

>>9073
>le infographics
all nice and fine, but let me tell you something that might be a hard pill to swallow:
it's not fucking around that makes women whores, it's women being whores that leads to them fucking around.
force a whore into monogamy, she's gonna be just as miserable as she currently is when she's fucking around.
the problem with your statistics is that it postulates direct correlation, when in fact both variables are caused by another underlying factor: shitty personality. and you can't change that with rulefaggy public morality laws.

>>9079
I checked: wiki says 36,7% for year 2013

>>9080
>it's not fucking around that makes women whores, it's women being whores that leads to them fucking around.
Akshually the opposite is true xD She's not a whore until she fuck around, analogically no one is a murderer until actually murder someone.
>force a whore into monogamy, she's gonna be just as miserable as she currently is when she's fucking around.
that's what le infographics show xD
>and you can't change that with rulefaggy public morality laws.
I'm not so sure about that, certainly lowering age of consent is not going to help.

>>9073
>>9080
To expand on your point Kraut is that he doesn't understand that in western societies bullshit like Alimony and feminism enables whores to act like whores. In a traditional society without welfare and alimony for whores with healthy doses of slut shaming, a woman is forced to be monogamous. You take away alimony and welfare for whores and the whores stop whoring, and go for more stable partners. Because they know once they fucked up it's back to the streets or living with their parents like a failure.

>>9080
If it's acceptable to jumping boat just like that then people will choose that because it's easier then working out the problems.

>>9082
I actually think it's better to let women be whores because this makes it less likely that you accidentally marry a whore (because she won't be exposing herself)

>>9085
We live in societies that let women be whores though, and as you can see it CLEARLY hasn't been working out. Since the whores are easily manipulated and white knights even more so. It's why slutwalks were and continue to be a thing in western societies.

>>9085
Maybe in short term and for individual it's better, but it may be hurtful to society.

>>9058
Who is the tattooed arm with green hair?

>>9091
Some feminist landwhale

>>9092
I thought that's a dude. But now that I observed it's clothes with more attention you might be right.

>>9093
It's not just the clothes, but the way the fat is distributed.

>>9088
Exactly, it mostly hurts stupid people. It looks disgusting yeah but in an even longer term their percentages should decrease.

>>9095
>their percentages should decrease

No, they won't they will stabilize as long as you have education institutions telling them that feminism and whoring around is good.

>>9100
Guess what, cultural marxist institutions or feminism seem to be incapable of indoctrinating a remarkable amount of people. There's shitload of people who thanks to indoctrination believe whoring around is good, however, they don't do that. Hmm?

>>9101
>however, they don't do that.

Then why are absurd divorce rates and women losing their virginities at absurdly low ages so common in the West, and even more so in the US?

>>9103
>why are absurd divorce rates
because marriage itself the way is put is a joke, especially with husband and wife slaving away most of their days, no wonder they can't keep an emotional bond
>women losing their virginities at absurdly low ages so common in the West
lol ever heard of gypsies
or niggers

>>9104
Don't know about Yurope, but in the US 60% of our women loose their virginities during highschool. And good luck finding a virgin amongst women in the age group 20+.

>>9105
You really believe it's ever and anywhere not been like this?

>>9106
There's a few places where it's not like this in present times. One popular example is the country of Weeaboos and Nips. If they were able to maintain chaste, why can't we?

Because of whores being manipulated by Kikes plus internationalists and those whores manipulating white knights.

>>9058
They have such ugly ant like faces. If it was legal and they were actually hot, maybe, but life is already too tiring and I am too old now to go chasing anybody. When I was 13 absolutely, but over time I realised that nutting is pretty much the same no matter who you nut it to. Not to mention all that effort for 10 seconds of reward.
I guess what I really wish is I be 13 again and fucking, not fucking a 13yo.

>>9112
>ugly ant like faces

I for one like soft chins and big ol' eyes. Fuck horse looking sluts m8, I will never like big manly chins with small eyes. Those sluts posted in OP are attractive.

>>9105
>60% of our women loose their virginities during highschool

Just go hundred years back and you'll see that most people lost their virginity at same age as current American high school. And got first kid at 20, often earlier. Actually, it always was like this, because no one cared about age, only about puberty, that is different for different people. Marriage pattern changed, but this is another thing.

Only Victorian morals of 19th century were different, and this isn't any traditional thing at all, but some invented concept. And it mostly existed in high class society. Same shit like "children are sacred and innocent beings who couldn't do any wrong". And many others that counted as "true western" now, like tolerance for everything (another late 19th century invention).

Thinking that this modern moral chimaera is a basis for Western civilization is laughable. It isn't even a proper conservatism.

>>9113
Which one? The one with horse teeth and a 5 heard or the one with tiny cigarette burn holes for eyes on point nose and cheek bones.

>>9114
Look m8, it's not so much the fact that they're fucking that annoys me. It's the fact that they're fucking without thinking about reproduction and having a stable home. It's the fact they're fucking with wreckless abandon and becoming the town's bikes.

>>9115
Get your eyes checked, or preferably your standards for women checked.

Younger looking = better

>>9101
>There's shitload of people who thanks to indoctrination believe whoring around is good, however, they don't do that. Hmm?
Smart people will stay at the same numbers, while stupids and whores will not stabilize like you said but expand explosively, that's the issue. Your contradicting argument is a fallacy of proportions.

>>9116

I just point that thinking about morality and degeneracy of modern world is wrong way. Modern world surely have degradation, but sex in teen age is the last thing people must care.

>It's the fact that they're fucking without thinking about reproduction and having a stable home

It also was always like this, just because teens are stupid. In past they chose family life not because they thought that it is good, but because they were forced to do it by their family and societal pressure. Then they grow and get it by themselves, but it always required some time. This thing rarely work now, and it is mostly parenting problem.

>>9117
That's not an effect of estrogen, that's an effect of living in a frigid bubble. You need to go out and trust any snese other than just sight.

>>9119
>they were forced to do it by their family and societal pressure.

Duh, it's been my point this whole discussion. You can't let whores just be whores, since most women are whores. Checks have to be put in place, however those checks are now all gone thanks to government welfare and alimony plus the lack of slut shaming.

>>9107
hahahahhahahahahahhahahahah
>he actually believes that
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GuDBvcwwxVo [Embed]

>>9117
Younger looking = better, but looking like that at 12 is worse than looking like that at 25. Because first means they look older than their age, latter means they look younger.

>>9124
umm you heard of contraception right?

>>9125
You heard of government stats right?

http://www.ipss.go.jp/ps-doukou/j/doukou15/doukou15_gaiyo.asp

>>9126
>government surveys on family life and birth rates
Okay, now show me government surveys on extramarital sex in Japan.

>>9123
If the grill isn't an idiot who piles on shitloads of make up it's possible for her to remain that young looking. Now mind you, there are some manly looking women with strong features I like, but they're really rare. Pic related, I consider this an old looking, but still attractive face.

>>9128
Yeah that's called the G*rmanic squarejaw.

>>9127
Literally the 2nd part of the report

http://www.ipss.go.jp/ps-doukou/j/doukou15/NFS15_report4.pdf

>>9129
I don't like it, it makes women look older and manly. Very few women who have it are cute in my eyes. I like round, soft faces, big titties is a plus.

>>9117
>Younger looking = better
A great doctrine to ensure you'll be grooming women to be sluts, marry idiots, and birth wageslaves to support a tiny minority of cabbalists who educate themselves and control everything from behind the scenes. It's so short too, ready to be recited without thinking.

>>9130
Fuck me sideways, where. Admittedly my jap is shit but all I see is data on marriage/relationship age, birth rates, contraception, employment, child care, shit like that.

>>9133
I'm retarded I linked to the wrong part of the report, here's the text, and the report

性経験のない未婚者割合は上昇に転じる
異性との性交渉の経験がない未婚者割合を図I-2-4に示した。性経験がない未婚者割合は、
男女ともに1990年代前半までは減少傾向にあった。しかし、この傾向は男性では1990年代後半、
女性では2000年代初頭から歯止めがかかり、その後、性経験のない未婚者割合は上昇に転じて
いる。今回調査では、30代前半の男性を除き男女ともにすべての年齢層において、性経験がな
いと回答した未婚者の割合が前回よりも上昇した。

http://www.ipss.go.jp/ps-doukou/j/doukou15/NFS15_report3.pdf

Also the virginity rate is actualyl 36.2% for ages 18-34 for women, and 18-34 for men is at 38.7%. So yes, Jap land is full of virgins, and ROUGHLY 40% of their populace are virgins. However they're a very chaset nation because of this since just as the virginity reports suggests, Japs aren't too keen on fucking. Hell I think this same part of the report states that only something like 18% or 20ish% know enough(???) about contraceptives to use them.

So their fertility problem isn't contraceptives at all, it's just their just too focused on other aspects of their life to fuck like the govt. wants them to. Apparently a replacement level of 1.21 is not good, it's supposed to be something like 2.31. Which is bullshit in my opinion since very few countries have a good enough economic status to support such an ambitious replacement rate.

>>9136
>>9133
It's specifically page 14 of the report. And no, my Jap is not good enough to fake the text I posted, that's why I'm telling you the page number.

I have now swallowed the weeaboo pill, it's now time to learn Jap and go no hymen no diamond.

>>9138
They're virgins not because of their purity, but because they either don't like fucking, or the environment their in doesn't allow for it. Remember Jap houses have REALLY thin walls. Not just that but people over there get super autistic about their jobs, hobbies, and children.

What I'm saying is that prepare to enter a potentially sexless marriage if you marry a Jap in Jap land. I've been jacking off with my hand for 11 years now, ever since I discovered jacking off as a teen. The potential in me to tolerate a sexless marriage is definitely in me. Nice oyakoudon you have there, something about an older attractive mother and her daughter being girly together turns me on.

>>9139
>their

<they're

Fix'd that shit

>>9139
And the problem that married couples don't have sex.

Now for some more data let's look at
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/japan-sex-statistics-by-sagami
especially if you look at average age of losing virginity it's still below 20 years, compared to US where it's about 17 it's about 19 in Japan.
And that the average Japanese woman in her 20s has had sex with 5-6 men. Let's compare this with >>9073 – in US context that would mean 40% divorce rate. Now in Japan, apparently it just means no sex because muh sanctity of marriage?

>>9143
>>9143
>sexless marriages

Yes I already addressed that plus warned that anon about it to. Also no, it's not really because of "muh sanctitiy of marriage!" The reason why is because alimony in Japan doesn't exist in any shape or form.

Ownership of goods in a marriage is 50% but only if you decided to share it officially. Anything that's yours before the marriage is yours. Anything that's EXPLICITLY yours during the marriage and doesn't have her name on it is yours. Anything else that has both of your names or you bought for the both of you is up for grabs in divorce court.

Meaning if you're a dumbass cuck you can get fucked by a woman if you decide to have her name on your bank account, the percentage is automaticaly 50% and you can't do anything about it. Otherwise if you're smart you can decide to go your seperate ways and decide how much cash you want to giver her, if you're a dick, or she was just a huge bitch you can decide to not give her jackshit, and no court can force you to give her anything. If necessary divorce court is there to settle how much of certain pieces of shared property you can get or she can get.

The only thing a woman can get a hold of that is yours alone via divorce court is your pension, but that's when you're both old farts and practically useless for the workforce. Which in my opinion is fair, you really can't expect a 60-70 yr old woman who only knew how to be housewife to be of any use in the workforce. Can you? I couldn't, but I may be a beta wimp for old women.

>>9147
Forgot to mention A REALLY IMPORTANT issue about divorce court in Japan. And that's the fact that just like the West, women will always get child custody. Unless the woman is an absolute shit parent and you have proof that she's a druggy, abuses the kid or some other shit, she gets to keep it by the sheer fact she has a vagina. So yeah, before you swallow the weeaboo pill beware of sexless marriages, and bitches stealing your kids in a fit of rage.

Remember, whores will be whores, and women will be women no matter where you go, or what race you decide to stick it inside in. It's societal pressures that keeps them in line, it's that pressure that keeps them feminine and demure, nothing more, nothing else.

>>9152
>those teeth

I love how Jap ladies look, but once they open their mouth those teeth man, what's wrong with those teeth?

>>9153
>for her intelligence
sadly as a connoisseur of serious discussions I lose interest in a woman who is incapable of debating metaphysical questions with me
as a consequence I rarely make it past first date

>>9154
It's an islander thing.

>>9155
You have to get over it m8, women will never be our equals, specially us imageboard users who are autism to its core.

The parents should not dress their kids in these skimpy little outfits and let them tan. If she wasn't tan she would look younger. You shave their heads and stick them in a fema camp there wont be much to look at in sweatpants and blue sweatshirts.

>>9159
Tanning actually causes the skin to get much more wrinkly.

>>9160
yea and if she was pale her face would look younger

>>9162
If she was pale I'd get a boner TBH, I think she's attractive, but if she was pale, automatic boner without even touching myself.

>>9163
They need to start twerking as a form of taxation.

>>9165
L-l-lewd, do YOU WANT to give me the vapors here?

>>9153
>all of sudden talking about marriage
Yeah, that's almost as cancerous as you marrying your fap pictures from the internet.

>>9177
Its one thing to even imagine fucking them but marrige is creepy.

>>9177
Never said I'd marry them, they're obviously people who might as well be imaginary for all I'm concerned. However I can, and will appreciate their beauty. What are you? Some sort of ugly fat feminist woman?

This thread turned out to be pretty good.
Also those grills in OP look Jewish. Mostly the stripey one.

>>9192
Truly some KC tier discussions I must say.

>>9193
And very tiring for every participants it seems.

>>9114
I might not call it Victorian morals, it's moar liek Victorian prudeness that made sex taboo, filthy and mysterious. The morals was the same: Christian morality, it just get some coating on the surface. Previously sex lots of times was in the open (for example peasant family in a small crowded house wouldn't get much choice on the long cold winter evenings) then they made it all hush-hush which then turned society to obsess with it as people very like secret and mysterious stuff.

Opportunity is changed too with urbanization. In a village of 3-500 people where everybody knows everybody and everybody knows everything what's happening there's not much chance of fucking on the side and not many people to choose from. Maybe sometimes when soldiers march through the land and stop at a village for a night or two.
But now with metropolises where noone knows each other and with lots of potential partners things are different. For example if I lived in New York it would mean potentially I could have sex almost the same number of women Hungary has.

>>9198
>Previously sex lots of times was in the open (for example peasant family in a small crowded house wouldn't get much choice on the long cold winter evenings)
I think I read something somewhere a long time ago that evidence says that in Europe most of sex happened outdoors; in cities this meant back alleys and in the countryside this meant in the bushes.
But I would need source.

>>9202
People had sex wherever they could. A nice haystack sure was pleasant (not great for privacy tho) but in freezing weather indoors are better.

>>9203
>haystack
Oh right, in Slovenia we used those hayracks. The upper floor actually gives great amount of privacy.

>>9204
We have/had hay dryers too. You should keep in mind those weren't necessarily used 200, 500, 1000 years ago. Their form could change also.

>>9205
They certainly were considered traditional already in 17th century when Valvasor described them.

>>9213
People also stored hay above stables sometimes even in the attic if the structure made enabled it.

Welp... you're right, they're sexy as fuck. They also happen to be a living ticket to hell, aka prison and later, sex-offender status. That's how we know Satan really does rule the earth.

>>10564
In the US it's the ugly ones who are the biggest sluts.

>>10566
That's true in Finland too, I don't know what finnbro is on about. The funny thing is the only place anywhere I've heard the opposite about has been America
<--

That's a black, a white and two jews I think. In most of the world good women are just good and there's no way to cheat the system.

Never mind, I don't disagree with the other Finn after all, Murrica took it to a weird place for me. The chinese proverb means she's good at home because she compensates looks with skills, it's not about cheating.

>>9061
>Kids of these days are so infantilized if they started sex in the age of 25 it would be still early.
>>9062
>I doubt feminism and nigger music is much of a problem in your side of the world. So why are you saying this?

I'm being surprisingly consistently on topic when I'm just butting in and sperging.

>>9103
Because the more attractive the woman is, the more likely she's going to have sex regardless of her age. The 13 year olds in the video I posted aren't going to have sex with 100 men because they slept with someone at 13, they're going to have sex with 100 men because thousands of men find them attractive.

>>10564
>virgin n ugly
>trusty
No connection between the two. Here below average fat chicks can be very slutty in a pushy way for example (just like average and above average fat chicks). This is actually quite logical in an unusual angle: they love to eat which is both a sensual and a consuming sin (Lust and Gluttony) so it's obvious they like to fill their other orifices too.
However I can imagine ugly chicks tend to have less partners because, well, less people want to put their penis into them. So you're logic might be right.
However the fate of a relationship doesn't depend exclusively on sex. Or rather largely doesn't depend on it. In a long relationship it's inevitable the partners will got bored with each other no matter how great was the sex in the beginning and how much they were attracted to each other.
If that ugly chick is fed up with your person she will dump you no matter she has no other options for sex.

>>10564
And of course what if she does not want you in the first place?

>>10675
I remember a Finn who wanted to or actually did grow weed in the woods. I can't remember if I exchanged words with him on KC main or 8/kc. Are you the one?

>>10677
I don't post to kc nor 8/kc, I only hang around end/kc/ and ernstchan because I prefet post quality over quantity.

>growing weed in the woods
That is dumb because it might affect the surrounding ecosystem either positively or negatively if we talking about letting this plant to grow in the actual nature, not inside on specific growing complex.
I think weed or drugs in general is stupid hedonistic thing to do. I want to feel good but it's illegal, what is the point then? Anime is my only drug and because I watch anime with computers, I can add my GNU/Linux autisms to it. I believe in 80s commercials where "winners don't do drugs".

Oh well, who am I to judge those who use drugs. If I can make money by dealing drugs then I would do it while acknowledging the risks. That's the high tech, low life in the dystopian future we live in. I still want to condemn those who use drugs.

I want a society run by hard cold logical machines. Humans make errors and use emotions to make their decisions, which is fun but also very dumb. I too have flaws, because I have addiction to buy old used computers even if they don't actually have use.

>>10680
>growing weed in the woods
If you go to Macedonia it's fucking everywhere.

>>10680
>I only hang around end/kc/ and ernstchan because I prefet post quality over quantity
>quality over quantity
I can imagine.

>That is dumb because it might affect the surrounding ecosystem
It's just hemp which is grown even in Scandinavia for centuries. Or millennias.
>in the actual nature, not inside on specific growing complex.
I don't remember the specifics.

>I don't post to kc nor 8/kc
It was a year ago or so. I would bet it was on 8/kc but I didn't paint Finland on the map for some reason so maybe it was on KC and then it was 2 years ago... Now I'm wondering when Slovenia appeared first or regularly.
Never mind. When I read your posts and now I'm assuming you're the Finn who writes here time to times but then who is he >>10567 ? the first thing comes to my mind is:
>smoke weed erry day, 420, blaze it
Nevertheless I'll think this >>10675 through.

>I think weed or drugs in general is stupid hedonistic thing to do.
Then I can recommend radishes.

>>10681
Are you telling me you're the rude FYROM dude too?

>>10680
>"winners don't do drugs".
I smoked weed almost everyday for six years but stopped recently for about a month now. I don't feel like a winner. Maybe that will come a little later. I just don't have as much to look forward to in my day.

I don't know how growing pot in the woods would really be bad for the environment. I don't think it really is competitive. Not sure how your local authorities view it though so maybe you'd get in trouble.
Hemp food products are supposedly good for you. They don't get you high. I think you'd have to cultivate a lot though.
I heard part of the reason it became illegal in the US was due to the logging and publishing industry that would have dropped prices dramatically if hemp was adopted for paper products.

>>10681
Oh boy. Well, lets see if it affects the surrounding ecosystem by anyway. It can be dangerous to let plants do whatever they want.
>>10687
>It was a year ago or so
>then it was 2 years ago
Hmm, I'm not too sure but I might have seen pictures about it on ylilauta and this issue also have been on the news as well. Very vague picture but of course, it was bound to happen when you can order seeds with no problems at all.
>who is he >>10567
I suppose there is at least 2 different Finn poster or more.
>Then I can recommend radishes.
Huh? Is there something particularly different on this plant? On wikipedia, it is said to be good crop to have because its chemicals repel pests. And it also is said to be healthy on finnish side of wikipedia.
>>10688
Weed can be cool for the first few times because it brings a rush for doing something that is "wrong". I'll assume that it will be same as with alcohol and sex. If you do it daily or often, it will lose it's interest and all you end up with is a addiction and a impulsive acts aftermath.
>I heard part of the reason it became illegal in the US was due to the logging and publishing industry that would have dropped prices dramatically if hemp was adopted for paper products.
Money talks.

>>10691
>Is there something particularly different on this plant?
Definitely. I posted my radishes here before some Arschloch flushed the whole board with spam. That particular thread started with a weed post by a Germball but he said we can post gardening stuff too so I did.
DUDE
RADISHES
LMAO
GRAZE IT!
Anyway they're healthy and tasty.

>>10688
>Hemp food products are supposedly good for you.
Yeah, hemp is the rare plant that has all the essential proteins and yeah it's used for protein powder for this reason.

So, what's there name

So what's their name?

>>10953
Prisão and Porvocê

>>10954
Means "Prison" and "for you" although por voce should be two separate words

>>11036
Yes. I was joking.

Steam is banning lolicon games because of people like (you)

>>12528
>necrobumper
>torfaggot
checks out

>>12529
It's surprisingly difficult to sage properly on this board. I dunno why. I always make the same mistake as well.

>>12529
>>necrobumper

This is not a forum you nigger, it's an imageboard, bump just to piss your autismal ass off.

It's funny how so many conservative types want people to marry and be monogamous but then cry "pedophilia" when someone wants to marry a young teen, so instead the young teens end up turning to their peers for relationships and sex and then become the town bicycle before they reach the age of consent, then no one wants to marry them.

>>13814
I'd fuck them. I see hot girls around 12 or something playing soccer at the park most weeks. If only they weren't surrounded by their faggot parents and bystanders could I pick them up.

t. gonservidive nadsi

>>13814
>>13854
I'd gladly kill both of you scumfucks with my bare hands. Post your address chickenshits.

>>13855
Do you have a problem with consensual sex between a man and a 13 year old girl?

>>13859
Please excuse my retarded compatriot, he's one of the ones who got away from Planned Parenthood.

I've never understood the whole paedo/hebe thing tbh, teenage girls are the most uninteresting people you'll ever meet

>>13870
Maybe their seeming or apparent innocence. Which is basically equals to boring.

>>13870
Pedos are emotionally stunted and mentally at the level of a 10yo, at least from my experience.

>>13876
I had similar thought that they have some childish properties. I don't think I've ever met one and those on imageboards aren't necessary real pedos, one probably should check real cases. Like Polansky or I dunno.

>>13870
>comparing pedophilia to hebephilia

Great difference between wanting to fuck a prepubescent girl and a fertile young woman.

>>13874
So what do you want in a woman? A bimbo? A slut? A SJW with piercings tatts and problem hair? II don't know what's the situation with women in Hun-Gary but here in the US as it has been said, women are fucking whores obsessed with nigger music. Sure they don't burn the coal like the false propaganda claims, but that still doesn't do away the fact that 50% of all marriages here end in divorce, nor the fact that 70% of all divorces are initiated by them.

This gets invariably worse and worse as they age and proceed to get dicked further down the line. The fact is, at least in the US, that if you want to do no hymen no diamond, and don't want to be paranoid about being divorced and raped in divorce court you have to go for a teen. You just have to, unless you feel extremely lucky and think you can find the mythical 10% of women ages 18-30 who are not whores, and to find one who is not a hamplanet and a feminist as well becomes EVEN MORE astronomically lower.

>>13876
From my experience pedophiles are just mentally ill in general, they don't see cute things like normal people do. The straight ones see a cute girl and just want to tear her hymen open for some reason. The gay majority see little boys as play things and get off on the thoughts of corrupting them and dominating them, some even like the whole sissy play emasculation shtick.

>>13880
>Great difference between wanting to fuck a prepubescent girl and a fertile young woman.
You're right that the physical properties are different, but mentally teenage girls aren't much different to children if the ways they speak and act are anything to go by

>>13883
Women are eternally immature and susceptible to Jewish tricks. Which is why it's super important to find one that hasn't been kiked.

>>13884
if anything younger girls are even more susceptible to that as they spend most of their time using (((social media)))

>>13885
The more dick a woman gets, the more likely she is to divorce you. Multiple studies prove this.

>>13887
[citation needed]

>>13888
Found the feminist newfaggot, what a waste of trips.

>>13883
>mentally teenage girls aren't much different to children if the ways they speak and act are anything to go by

Large part of human population of both genders aren't much different to children mentally. Other part is even worse.

t. misanthrope

>>13880
>Great difference between wanting to fuck a prepubescent girl and a fertile young woman.
This: >>13883
>>13884
>Women are eternally immature
There's a huge difference between a 13 years old's immaturity and a 31's. If you make an effort to talk with a 18 and 21 you'll find they have different perspectives on things. Well, given they have similar mental capacity and maybe social background.

Back to this post: >>13880
>So what do you want in a woman? A bimbo? A slut?
Not just sluts and nuns (little girls in our case here) exist. At least in Hungary [spoiler]despite the fact that we have 60% divorce rate - however those who divorced once they divorce easier further on, worsening the statistics[spoiler], and I'm sure what you wrote is a hyperbole for a certain degree.
>70% of all divorces are initiated by them.
Are there a statistics on why they initiate divorce? The reasons can be numerous and many times their husband can be faulted. Here - in my experience which not necessary reflects statistical facts - usually cheating is in the background of divorces and initiated by those who were cheated on. Many times men can't keep their dicks in their pants.
Let's say you're right and more dicking makes women less faithful. Lowering age of consent as I noted above somewhere ITT here it's 14 doesn't solve the problem, it just stretches the window of opportunity to getting dicked more. 11-14 years olds' minds aren't made for relationships, they have nothing to give on that field. Their virginity would be snatched by dudes with routine in getting what they want and then they would be discarded, leaving them heartbroken and broken.

>>13887
I would argue that age isn't necessarily a good indicator of sexual partners. You could have fucked 10 guys by the age of 15 or you could still be a virgin at the age of 25.
Maybe what you should really be looking for is an autistic KC tier gf, lel.
>>13890
>t. misanthrope
I've felt that way too recently, feels edgy man

>>13870
>teenage girls are the most uninteresting people you'll ever meet
So are women in general. but that's no reason to not find them attractive.

>>13874
>apparent innocence
No. Sexual attraction, the same way you find women attractive. You can't find someone attractive based on their innocence. And for your information, these girls are as innocent as you are.

>>13876
Sleeping with people older than you doesn't mean you're intelligent, and sleeping with people younger than you doesn't mean you're dumb.

>>13887
>>13889
>>13891
I already explained this before. The more attractive you are, the more sex and partners you're able to have. >>10571

>>13897
>There's a huge difference between a 13 years old's immaturity and a 31's
Women are dumb as fuck. The whole "mature woman" thing is a myth. And lastly, this isn't even taken into consideration due to the fact that someone's intelligence does nothing to influence their attractiveness. Nobody goes, "Wow his IQ is 120, he's so hot".

>Their virginity would be snatched by dudes with routine in getting what they want and then they would be discarded, leaving them heartbroken and broken
Who cares? What are you going to do? Make tinder illegal? Make one night stands illegal? Sex with anyone outside of marriage or a relationship being illegal doesn't change the fact that you may find someone attractive.

And if anyone wants to persist with the "You're not allowed to find this attractive because she will be more mature in the future", refusing the fact that women are immature idiots for the rest of their lives, take a look for yourself what grown women talk about

https://lolcow.farm/g/
>eye makeup
>abortion
>their vaginas
>relationship advice
>skin care
>masturbation/sex toys
>fetishes
>makeup products

compare that with what we talk about here. There's your "intellectual and mature women". And if you go to their fetish thread, you will see many of them saying they developed their fetishes when they were younger (10-11), so much for your "young and pure innocent beings"

>>13897

>muh mature womyn

As the anon poster said, women are immature regardless of their age. Compared to a man a woman will always be an emotionally compromised idiot. If you're going to be around an emotionally compromised idiot, why not be with one who is young, fertile, and is still developing mentally so you can groom her into a proper slightly less idiotic woman?

>are there statistics on why they initiate divorce

Does it really matter when we Amercans live in a society where alimony always favors women? Does it really matter when we Americans live in a society where a false rape accusation can destroy your life? Does it really matter when here in the US live in a society that UNIRONICALLY believes there's a wage gap due to sexism? Does it really matter when child custody laws favor women who constantly brag on twitter, facebook and other social media about using their child's alimony checks to buy new shoes?

>muh womyn dindu nuffin and never cheat

Here in the US 90% of the populace has lost their virginities by their mid 20s while marriage rates have gone down close to 70% with some thinking it is down 70%.

https://www.bentley.edu/impact/articles/nowuknow-why-millennials-refuse-get-married

As the statstics I posted above show it directly correlates with the amount of men and women fucking irresponsibly throughout the years. It also directly correlates with the amount of abortions, and contraceptive methods available as well as the lack of social pressures we have against whoring. By the way the CDC study on Family Growth that I've cited actually states that around 47% of marriages have the wife have MORE THAN ONE sexual partner at a time. So yeah, women get around more and whore around more. This is why Japan doesn't have anywhere near as many whores as the West despite there being contraceptives and abortion without restrictions available.

>>13907
> already explained this before. The more attractive you are, the more sex and partners you're able to have

And I already explained before and showed statistical data on it that there are societies where men and men don't whore around, as well as the fact that the US used to have less cheating, used up roastie whores going to divorce court. Yes whores and manwhores will always exist, which is precisely why society has to shame these philanderous degenerates. But sadly in western society thanks to feminism it has become acceptable for women to whore around due to contraceptives, child support alimony and so forth.

YOU WILL NEVER GET AROUND THE TRUTH, SEXUAL LIBERATION OF WOMEN WAS A MISTAKE! THE NANNY STATE FURTHER AIDING THESE WHORES WAS A MISTAKE!

>muh single motherhood houses dindu nuffin sure they're parasites on society but not much else bad comes from it

Here in the US and Canada single mother houses produce the highest amount of criminals irrespective of race.

>>13911
>This is why Japan doesn't have anywhere near as many whores as the West despite there being contraceptives and abortion without restrictions available.

Had a brainfart there, meant to type

>Societal shaming is the reason why these whores continue to whore and why Japan doesn't have anywhere near as many whores as the West despite there being contraceptives and abortion without restrictions available.

>>13911
>>13912
To summarize my point

Having a young partner here in the US AUTOMATICALLY means you have a less used up whore. Having a younger partner also automatically means you're less likely to be divorced due to the less amount of whoring the partner has participated in, if at all any whoring has been done. Statistics show this, sadly statistics are a good representation of what reality is, it's not a 100% faithful representation, but it's a good indicator of the bigger picture. You can apply all the bayesian scores you want, but you will always get very similar results, at least when it comes to the ABSOLUTE STATE of the US.

With that out of the way I'd like to add the following, just because you're less likely to get cheated on and so forth doesn't mean a younger partner is ideal. Ideally I'D LOVE to have a virgin partner who's my age and can identify with the memes, movies and culture I grew up with. Really, I really would, I'm still young enough that if I were to get a partner my age she wouldn't give me downies or autistic children. But sadly it's not possible here in the US, women here are whores and we men thanks to jewry enable this bullshit.

Additionally I would like to reiterate further that while it may seem I have a 10% chance of finding a non-whore, virgin woman here in the US I also have to take other factors into consideration. Said factors are obesity, how feminist she is, health factors as well and religious background. This means that my chances here in the US of finding a good partner is actually lower than 10%, we're talking single digits territory.

>>13914
Too brain scattered today since I'm shitposting while studying Chemistry right now. I'm obviously talking about the statistical chance of finding a partner within my age bracket. Since the statistical data that shows that 90% of the populace has lost their virginity is only for the 18-30 crowd, but not 17-14 year olds.

With that said I should have saved that statistical data since I now have to dig through the CDCs shitshow of an archive for that.

>>13911
>implying Japan doesn't have whores
lol
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GuDBvcwwxVo [Embed]

>>13905
I wrote:
>seeming or apparent innocence
But feel free to omit anything from my post to fit it into your agenda.
Just because they are young that doesn't mean they don't have sexual thoughts. During our lives childhood is the part when we learn how to live. To put it in terms you might understand: consider growing up as a tutorial of a vydia. We got a bunch of information from the outside world, some of those will be sexual in nature because sex is part of our lives. Even our body give us signs which at that time could puzzle us, and yeah maybe little girls feel funny when think about a boy or another in class (and boys vica versa) but it's a far cry from what a 31 thinks or feel about men (not to mention the behaviour). Even after they learn about the technicalities first time from their parents or in biology class.
>these girls are as innocent as you are.
Oh now I'm blushing you think I'm so innocent but I can assure you I already held a grills hand.
>these girls
You mean the grills in OP webm? I thought the topic are grills in general.

>>13907
>Women are dumb as fuck. The whole "mature woman" thing is a myth.
Well then they are a perfect fit to men as men are dumb as fuck as well.
>someone's intelligence does nothing to influence their attractiveness. Nobody goes, "Wow his IQ is 120, he's so hot".
You put that entirely wrong.
Attractiveness isn't only based on looks. Bunch of things can be off putting and bunch of things can be huge turn on. Behaviour for example or things one say. And changing our behaviour based on the feedback we get from other people's reaction to us needs lots of intelligence, consciousness and will.
If Bernd would be really smart he could figure out what to say to women to build in them warm fuzzy feelings toward him.

>Who cares?
The original premise here >>13880 was something about how hard to find acceptable material for relationship/marriage. Supporting the possibility to fuck younger and younger pussies will just deepen the problem.
If you don't care you are part of the problem.

>>13908
>And if anyone wants to persist with the "You're not allowed to find this attractive because she will be more mature in the future",
1. Wow, you told us so hard previously noon will dare ever persist with anything.
2. Did you actually read anything what we wrote? Noone said you ain't allowed. The birtbong said they are uninteresting and I said they are boring.

>grown women talk about
>lolcow
Women. On an anonymous imageboard? How much of them actual women?
The topics you listed... aren't immature at all. Those are legit adult topics. By default 0 kids are talking about those things.
Yes girls sometimes put on their moms clothes or smear some lipstick around their faces and make poses in front of the mirror. But that's just monkey see monkey do. With miming the behaviour adults do they learn how to behave in the future. It's practice. So they are the ones doing mature things and not adult women immature stuff.
But all right go to KC main and see Bernd talking about "mature" topics. Or feel free to check 4chan.

>>13911
>As the anon poster said, women are immature regardless of their age. Compared to a man a woman will always be an emotionally compromised idiot.
Judging by your and the other Bernd's posts - which clearly tells me you can't tell a difference by their talk and behaviour between women/grills of different age and you cannot actually write anything beside sperging out that "all women are whores" - you two are the ones who immature. I'm really sorry but after reading so much idiotism, and short-sightedness this is what I can conclude.
>when we Amercans live in a society where alimony always favors women? ...
I agree that since WWII lots of societal changes happened and none of them favours classic family life and values which is really sucks because families are the basic building blocks of society and broken families will produce broken people and broken society.
For the divorcing misery men could answer with marriage contracts with precise specification for the case of divorce.
>>muh womyn dindu nuffin and never cheat
Never said such thing. Pleas don't strawman I've had enough of that with the other Bernd.
Correlation isn't causation. The reasons why women in those statistics having sex with lots of different partners are the reasons behind the divorce rates. For example - what even you mentioned: lack of social pressure - the general acceptance toward sleeping with lots of peeps. But other things like crappy family background.

>>13914
But again if we allow younger women into the game it will just worsen the situation: >>13897
>it just stretches the window of opportunity to getting dicked more. 11-14 years olds' minds aren't made for relationships, they have nothing to give on that field. Their virginity would be snatched by dudes with routine in getting what they want and then they would be discarded, leaving them heartbroken and broken.
Actually todays 14+something year olds minds still aren't made for it as I mentioned here: >>9061 and here >>9063
Btw the 25 was just a number I pulled out of my ass. So don't try to prove with my words that a 14 and a 24 are the same immature grills.

Oh god I really didn't want to spend this much effort on this thread.

13 year olds learn sex from other 13 year olds, like its lord of the flies.

AS IT SHOULD BE YOU PEDOS >:(

>>13928
you know IT by Stephen King? at the end of the book when the kids beat the clown, they all decide to have a graphic mass orgy so they can form a deeper connection. shit's fucked.

>>13930
why is my flag uk when it should be norway?

>>13931
Maybe Britain stole my idea. They need your resources.

To the previously discussed:
Maybe the difference between our viewpoint is that I don't expect women to be man. I know it's double standard but the reality is we are different.
One more thought why I think little grills are seemingly or apparently innocent:
Their hopes and dreams are entirely different from older grills and women. Their naivety, their inexperience makes their views on men (boys), their fantasies and their opinion different and yeah more innocent (which could make them endearing for a normal person and sexually attractive for a pedo). It's sad youngsters' of our age first experience with sex is porn. Why? Because porn ain't real, you know. Or fake to be more precise. Incorrect behaviour which turns into role model.
Moreover individual children grow, develop differently. Some could have minds "full" of sexual thoughts at 11. Some only years later. Lowering age of consent would also put more pressure on them at earlier stages where they don't really need them.

>>13933
How about remove age of consent and just prosecute on evidence of the exact same damage that justifies age of consent laws in the first place?
Unless the whole point is to prosecute rape without evidence just so that all rape can be prosecuted similarly without evidence.

>>13936
How about just control your fucking degenerate impulses and not fuck 12 year old girls you worthless piece of shit? Do you not realize how fucking abhorrent you are to normal people? If you think it's normal for adult males to fuck 12 year olds you should be drawn and quartered in public so that the rest of your pathetic kind gets the message. You've spent far to long lingering on chans where you're paraphilia is normalized. In the world of sticks, stones, bones and flesh, you are seen rightfully as predatory sickfucks, and deserve to be ruthlessly beaten and broken. Kill yourself, seriously, I hope you consider it, because if you act upon your urges you will get beaten and raped to death in jail. Take the easy way out.

>>13937
>TL,DR: the point is to prosecute rape of adult women without evidence as if they were children, but let's shout down the reasoning that exposes this
Complete non-sequitur, contain your Americanness, please, peanut gallery.

Every woman I've dated has been raped by 13 year old as a 13 year old because of westernized morals. Not the same as western morals, but wersternized, like Americanized honeybee is a fucking cunt of an animal even thoug American bees are not always psychos and American people are not always retards.

>>13936
>without evidence
I'm not sure how things are going in the developed west but here one can't just waltz into a police station and get someone jailed just with an accusation not even in the case of rape.
The victim always counts as a witness but the case needs other evidence for example a testimony of a forensic practitioner (I dunno how it's called in English, basically a doctor with an offical paper that his opinion is more legit then a simple doctor's) that he/she examined the victim and found proofs (or lack of it).
The bad thing however that here you are considered guilty by the police until you prove your innocence. By the book it's the other way around ofc, you are innocent until proven otherwise but in practice it's don't. The police gathers evidence which supports the victim's version and you have to spoon feed them with your evidence. Also they rather believe the vic than the accused as the accused has reason to lie.
However police have some experience with those kind of people who goes to them, vics, perps, baseless accusators and they gained the ability to tell them apart, and as I said they really need more then just one supposed witness (the vic).

>>13917
>le pua meme video defeats government statistics

Read the thread or fuck off faggot

>>13920
>write anything beside sperging out that "all women are whores" - you two are the ones who immature. I'm really sorry but after reading so much idiotism, and short-sightedness this is what I can conclude.


Right because statistics that show that women are whores in the US don't exis- Oh wait they do and I posted them.

>Muh Correlation isn't Causation

It is when Bayesian scores and Standard Deviations show a trend in NOT JUST ONE ARENA related to the data sets, BUT MULTIPLE FUCKING DATA SETS I POSTED. Again are you a closet SJW? Or are you a butthurt woman?

>>13921
>It will just worsen the situation

Never said that we should lower the AOC RIGHT NOW, I'm just stating the fact, that if you want a good woman in the US you have to go younger. If you don't you'll automatically have a 50% chance of divorce, and as the CDC studies cited multiple times shows, a roughly 47% chance your wife will be fucking a guy behind your back. Woman's sexual liberation was a mistake as was the AOC laws, however the biggest mistake is sexual liberation. In a society where women are not shamed for being whores said women will act like whores.

>>13945
I'd like to clarify SMS47 without disruption includes kids with border line, or actual high functioning autism. SMS32 is the pure tests that grabs mentally normal kids and compares the genders in a completely level playing field.

>>13945
You seem to be the closet SJW. SJWs insist on judging women and men on the same terms just like you with that comparison. I bet you would even make them compete in the same category during sport events.
Btw that difference is nothing, sure men will put that IQ difference in good use when standing at the asm line 8 hours then buying their food in the tesco then watch shitty soaps on telly for 40 years then die.
>b-but muh research analysts

>>13946
You yourself claimed only correlation I just posted that as clarification to point out there's an underlying cause.

>>13949
>I'm the SJW when I show that women are on average less smart than men
>I'm the SJW when I show that women's g factor distribution is lower than men's despite their higher means in g factor
>I'm the SJW when I show that even with disadvantages such as mental illness men don't lag behind women as a whole and only stray behind 1 IQ point at most

Okay buddy

>heh 1 IQ point is nothing!

Are you retarded? When you're talking about IQ distributions 1 point is everything!

Even on an individual by individual basis it has significant implications. IQ is not some LINEAR metric of intelligence you fucking nitwit.

https://mh19871004.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/income-inequality-and-iq-charles-murray-1998.pdf

>>13949

>You yourself claimed only correlation I just posted that as clarification to point out there's an underlying cause.

Because correlation is causation in this case! That shitty argument of yours only applies when there's related data sets that directly contradict each other!

IF you're not going to put in effort in this thread maybe you should stop posting in this thread all together.

>>13945
BTW here's IQ distributions as seen here in the US between the genders. So maybe American women are trash after all...

WTF when I post from the EU domain my flag is colgate!

>>13908
I now see what you're talking about

https://crystal.cafe

And in fact lolcow's women are so intolerable they now made their own website. A website where 1/3 of the time they're bitching about /pol/.

>you're an SJW
>no you are
Did I just come to /pol/ by accident?

>>13957
/pol/ this, /pol/ that. Are you an SJW?

>>13957
SHUT UP FAGGOT I'LL ELECTROCUTE YOU

>>13944
I'm quite sure I fetched government statistics from Japan showing that teens in Japan have just as much sex as in US for end/kc/ before

>>13983
Until you post statistics that contradic this, you're shitposting, stop shitposting.
>>9136

>>13961
>>13963
get out of here you filthy CIS white males

>>13950
Bruh, it's not even certain that such thing as IQ exists.

>>14000
Great claims require GREAT amounts of proof

One thing I would ask is are intelligence (IQ) and maturity necessarily the same thing? I've known people who never went to school and were far more mature than some of the clueless students I met while at university. I would argue that maturity is determined by experience rather than intelligence.

>>14028
Smart and dumb are kinda plastic concepts, no wonder they choose "intelligence" as a name for the subject of measurement which is still not an exact concept. And yes, maturity is a different category from these.
It feels kinda philosophical. Being smart or dumb isn't just mental sharpness and dullness, knowledge and vocabulary, rather making in real life situations good or bad choices. Which also problematic with the ages old discussion on what's good and bad. A seemingly bad choice could lead to something which cab be evaluated as good in retrospect as well. And our choices are inherently influenced by our feelings, temperaments, emotions. For example Mensa members: why they take their test? Lots of them choice is influenced by their pride, lots of them want to feel they are belong to an elite club of smart people. What's more some of them do it for the bragging rights. High IQ people can make bad choices too, hooooo, many, so researchers rather try to associate IQ with jobs.
Maturity is similar, and yes it does seem depending on experience which makes it similar to wisdom. Also I would say taking responsibility for our acts (or even other people's or animals acts as our acts can arch over those) is belong to maturity.

If a woman isnt married and knocked up by 16 she's failed her biological imperative

>>14149
The development of medicine surpassed the need for that. Women can give birth safely for 3-4 children so they don't need to start early.

>>9136

I firmly believe the endocrine system, neurotransmitters and other signaling agents of the human body are being manipulated via technology under the control of jews.

The lower birth rates of certain groups is IMHO the result of interference which can only be speculated on, but within reason the kikes could be randomly inserting sterilization agents in every 10th vial of the flu shot or some similar formula to gradually reduce fertility without raising flags.

In Israel they out right sterilized black "jews" via vaccination.

It's possible oxytocin or some similar thing is being lowered in the japs to make them less likely to bond with members of the other sex.

And of course none of this factors in the psychological conditioning and "new norms" that are being created in these different lands.

>>14149
18 is the ideal prime age, 14 is too young and BEGGING for complications.

>>14192
>modern medicine

Unless she's freezing her eggs before she's thirty, or paying a fertility clinic to vet her eggs and artificially inseminate them you're talking straight out of your ass. Multiple studies have shown that for women, age really is a MAJOR contributing factor for fertility. Remember women FOR THE MOST PART have a set limit of eggs they can produce.

Now to be fair men in their 40s+ take a huge hit to their fertility as well.

>>14397
A women in our age don't need to give birth to 10 kids to make sure at least 4 stays alive.
Let's say the ideal number of kids is 4 (3 is fine but the following example works better with 4). 4 pregnancy takes 3 years. Let this woman rest between pregnancies, let's say 2 years for each gap. That's 9 years in total for giving birth to 4 kids.
She can do this in her years of 20-30 or even 25-35 safely. She doesn't need to start it when she's 16.

Please don't try to misrepresent my words and suggest that I implied anywhere she should give birth after she's 40. Thank you.

>>14415
>25-35

That's where you're wrong, once you reach 30s as a female it's game over. There's a reason why whores suddenly want to marry a man once they reach their late 20s. Again prime age is 18, you can start them younger but that doesn't change things.

>>14418
What do you mean "game over"? My mother gave birth to me after she was 30. And my sister in law had a baby after this age, too. They had other kids earlier though.

>>14418
>That's where you're wrong
No. U.

>>14418
Stop writing all that crap. Noone will read it.

>>14415
>A women in our age don't need to give birth to 10 kids to make sure at least 4 stays alive.

Irrelevant, we're talking about fertility, not reproductive success based on the mechanisms of sexual selection.

>Let's say the ideal number of kids is 4 (3 is fine but the following example works better with 4). 4 pregnancy takes 3 years. Let this woman rest between pregnancies, let's say 2 years for each gap. That's 9 years in total for giving birth to 4 kids.

Well if we talk about replacement levels, the replacement levels economists like the most is 2.15 kids per household. However from a biological standpoint this is actually hard to determine since it varies on your population size and demographics. It also depends on what type of population distribution you want for specific alleles. If your sole purpose is to say replenish something like say, the US's white population then a model that promotes growth instead of normal replacement levels that maintain the current Hardy Weinberg Equilibrium is ideal.

You can't just BLINDLY say that 4 children is the ideal without stating why m8.

>25-35

That's where you're wrong, once you reach 30s as a female it's game over. There's a reason why whores suddenly want to marry a man once they reach their late 20s. The biological clock is real and without expensive medical treatments it's very dangerous to have kids in such a late stage of life. Again prime age is 18, you can start them younger but that doesn't change things at all.

My stance on the thread in concerns to finding a partner, at least in the US, is not that AoC should be abolished, but rather that younger is better for stability of the relationship. Reproductive success is something else entirely that while important, doesn't necessarily talk about a relationship's success, but rather the individual's evolutionary fitness for their environment.

>>14420
Outliers don't make or break the rules m8. Also for all we know you could be low functioning autistic, but you're just masquerading as an average anon.

>>14424
You are the one who makes utterly baseless claims. Also I have to note that everything you post radiates blind hatred against women. And now you might spit toward me all kinds of crap but you'll be wrong in that as well.

>>14433
>the rate in which autism appears nearly doubles once she's 30+
>but it isn't really high in absolute numbers

You're still putting yourself at double the risk of a child with autism, at that point you might as well fuck your own cousin. Plus it's not just autism there are other issues to take into account when discussing how a woman's fecundity severely affects the health of her offspring. If you'd like I can provide some additional data on it since you already did for 'tism.

>>14431
Bernd, whatever, don't get your panties in a knot.

>>14429
>baseless

You sound like a butthurt roastie right now.

>>14436
Here's some data I found

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0068976/pdf/PubMedHealth_PMH0068976.pdf

As it shows, a woman's fertility goes down as she proceeds through her 20s and the decline gets noticeably sharper as she enters her 30s.

>>14436
>the rate in which autism appears nearly doubles once she's 30+
>You're still putting yourself at double the risk of a child with autism

It is still 4.5 in 1000. And in 20 it is 1.5 in 1000. In both cases, it is very low chance.

>Plus it's not just autism there are other issues to take into account

Yes, it is. As far as I remember, Down syndrome is more serious problem for older mothers than autism, it is near 4-5 in 100 at 45+, ten times higher than any autism (and much worse for kid).

Of course it is better to make kids in 20s than try to solve bunch of problems in late age, but 30+ isn't really a full game over. But what you can do when modern society works in other way?

>>14456

Attraction is a process that evolved over billions of years to guide individuals to the best mate to procreate with. It follows rules that aren't going to change just because modern society expects them to.

Men have evolved to be attracted to women in their late teens/early 20's and that isn't going to change no matter how many middle aged, single roasties are out there.

Women need to deal with the fact that if they haven't got a man by their mid-thirties they're not going to get one.

>>14470
20 year olds still won't want to have kids, in general. society will still fuck you over, regardless.

>>14471

That's why Bernd needs to look afield for his women, into Eastern Europe and Asia.

This is why Western society is finished though. Women can't comprehend that they can't both have a career and play the cock carousel.

The only way a woman can have a career and a family is if she locks down her relationships and has kids before she starts a career.

>>14473
>Asia

The only Asian country worth a fuck if you want first world living conditions is Japland though. Not that Jap land is bad, but I don't think they'd take it kindly if they saw an invasion of white men.

>career woman meme cancer

I've seen this meme infect my younger female cousins. Absolutely dreadful, I know most of them have whored around and only one still hasn't, or at least I hope not. Regardless I do agree western society is collapsing and in fact "sex tourism" as asshurt feminists have called it is becoming widespread.

What's really unfortunate though is that our western men are also hopelessly infected as well. The highest divorce rate in Japan is that between a white man and a Japanese woman. Worst of all is that many site because there's not enough sex, and because they want their woman to work and have a career.

So yeah, it's not just our women who are broken, but our men as well. They actually swallowed the feminist propaganda and travel the world trying to convert people into the fold of such bullshit. They have it bad enough with the UN and other Globalist organizations bitching about "rights for women" they don't need western goyim marrying and dirtying their women with the porpagandist bullshit of feminism. A plague I know most of you know not even Israel wants within its borders.

>>14474
>site

cite*

>>14474

Do you have any sources for your claims? I'll bet the divorce rate between a white man and a Jap woman (as opposed to a westernised Jap) is still lower than a white man and a white woman.

All azn countries have attractive women, you just have to find them.

I agree that men share some of the blame though. Video games and porn have destroyed western men. The only solution is for men to become breadwinners again and women to stop trying to be men.

>>14477
Whoops, I'm actually retarded, I misread the data, the exact oppposite is true. Foreign females are more likely to be divorced by Jap men than foreign males.

www.mhlw.go.jp/toukei/saikin/hw/jinkou/kakutei15/xls/27toukei.xls

This infographic explains the numbers, here's a link to the study. Granted this is only for the year 2015, so one has to observe the trends throughout the years to gain a clear read and bead on the situation. Also apparently American Women and Men are less likely to be divorced by a Jap male or Female!

Regardless though, the divorce rate for foreign males is still worrying, as you can see it's at a 50%. However, how many of these foreign marriages are to western men and women? I don't have that answer yet, I have to sleuth around web search engines because I'll be honest my Jap is pretty sloppy, as this mistake clearly shows.

>>14479
>>14477
Okay this yielded an interesting result, and clearly BTFO out of the water the idea that all Asian cultures and races are compatible to each other.

They're clearly not...

>>14480
>>14480

Are those marriage stats?

It makes sense when you account for the fact that women like to marry 'up'. Korea, China & the U.S are roughly economically similar to Japan so men from those countries would most likely be educated & higher status men, but the looking at the other chart Thailand and the Phillipines women are poorer countries so the women who marry Japanese men are most likely not high status or educated.

>>14481

Having said that, we're getting completely off topic. My point was that if a western man wants a successful relationship with an attractive, traditional wife he should look abroad.

>>14482

And to be honest, my first choice would be an Eastern European woman anyway.

>>14481
Yes they're marriage stats.

>>14477
Please excuse my autism, but I forgot to reply to this post...

>All azn countries have attractive women, you just have to find them.

The thing is that not all Azn countries are first world and have ideal women. Sure South Korea exists, but it has to deal with the shitty feminist cult Daughters of Megalian. Hell just recently they overthrew their batshit insane female president who sacrificed people's lives in the name of her feminist cult. Then there's parts of China, which are only first world in name only...

Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but I can't imagine any first world Asian countries that are not shitholes aside from Japan.

>>14483

Hopefully not from Russia then...

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/hiv-epidemic-in-Russia-56214

>to this portion of the post
Fix'd that for me

>>9058
Sauce? Who are these bitches?

>>14484
>>14484

Why does it matter if they're countries are first world?

this is sad, 13 year olds shouldn't dress like sluts and wear make up

to hell with this degenerate society

>>14520
It's both the sexual liberation of women, and the infantilization of teenagers that got us to this point.

>>14496
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV4-Zc1YqAy4McmWaPXxuiA

Brazilian teen celebrity and her group of friends.

>thread about lolis
>207 posts engaging in fierce debate
>57 images, mainly emotional reaction images and charts and graphs

That’s my Bernd.

>>14517
>>14481
>>14483
>>14484
>>14485
someone ban this poltartds please, your virgin theories are driving me nuts

btw the reason for japanese men marrying chinese and philipino women
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2002/01/08/national/foreign-brides-fill-the-gap-in-rural-japan/

>>14594
>ban things I don't like, he's a virgin
At least put up an argument as to why he is a virgin, virgin.

>>14517
Do you eant to live in a slum? Or a country where utilities can poison you? A country where muggings and high STD rates are the norm?

>>14594
>instead of arguing with facts and reason you put into question the Bernd's virginity

You sound like a whore with beef curtains

>>14559
Thanks, downloaded her whole channel. I saw that she sometimes doesn't wear bra under her shirt, other times she wears totally see-through stuff. Are there some leaked nudes or something more fapworthy?

>>14614
And you give an absolutely manly reply of:
>REEEEEEEEEEE WOMEN

>>14616
Wearing bras is a (((capitalist))) ploy.

>>14618
>statistics and facts backed up by studies is reeing

Okay beefcurtains chan. Tell me, how many chads have fucked your sloppy seconds joe hole?

>>14625
There's actually quite the debate going on right now on whether wearing a bra too much can cause sag or if wearing it too little can cause sag... Both proponents make sense though, breasts are not just adipose fat but muscle as well. I'd link to papers but I'll be honest it's a total clusterfuck full of contradictions. Additionally I'm a biochem student, not a medical one so I don't know which sources are more anatomically correct.

One thing we could do, the both of us, is look at how the sample size was collected for the studies if you like.

>>14656
we need to conduct a proper study and make a bitch wear a one tit bra for a few years

t. science goy

>>14669
One thing is getting a roasty, another is something like that, I'm just not Chad enough Anon.

>>14616
What I'm really interested in is if there are videos where she does both of those things at the same time. I don't give a damn about a see through shirt if the bra is covering everything. Might as well be wearing a bikini at that point.

>>16128
Noone can stop you checking that out.
But most likely the producers of that channel don't allow such thing when they make decisions what she should wear during a shoot.

God fucking damn this girl is top model tier. A 13 year old girl looking better than any roastie I've come across. Too bad that the channel isn't her's, but rather her friend which just shills a phone app all day.

>>16151
Most of westeners who plan to make a living in Japan leave it after a few years. There's a reason behind it.

>>16158
They failed to adapt to racist Japanese culture, oooh how scary.

>inb4 muh karoshi even though the practice is now becoming uncommon due to new labor laws

>>16151
It's very easy to win against an enemy who doesn't exist. Because you are cearly an autist psychopath who doesn't understand implications I will spell it out: there are no feminists on this board. Me personally I just fed up with all the bollocks this virgin rage produces. If you want a discussion with "real enemies" then stop inventing enemies for yourself here and please take you fallacious reasoning to sites where feminists actually frequent, I'm sure such subreddits exists. Good luck, and post results.
Three points want to address here fast. I'm not sure you posted those, so in this section I won't address you personally.
The chart about the IQ tries to prove that men "smarter" than women (anyone, feel free to repost it). Firstly "being smart" is not an exact thing - only one component is the IQ - and cannot be measured conveniently. Second only a tiny proportion of men actually smarter than women, discounting them women are up to most men. Trying to feel superior on other men's achievement (well the happenstance they born with high IQ) is kinda pathetic thing to do.
Women with more sexual partners tends to divorce more. On the other hand men with more sexual partners do the same.
I actually already wrote this: people don't divorce beacuse of the number of their sexual partners. The reasons behind the divorces are the same what's behind their promiscuous behaviour. Correlation != causation.
Now I end this here because I promised to be concise and I have better ways to allocate both IRL and on this board my resources time and energy than arguing over nonsecial stuff with a retard or a troll if the ad hominems and the strawmanning is intentional and not doing the latter is always a win, never a lose.
This is my last answer here to you, you shouldn't bother with any more replies, but that part will be up to you.

One more thing. Judging by those videos on the channel posted above, these girls are so boring and even annoying that they are everything but attractive. They still need some time to build up any sexual air around themselves (which will be labeled by some of the posters of this thread as whorish, and they would be somewhat right because these girls will never learn how to be attractive otherwise).

>>16150
she's a disgusting thot, I've seen 25yos who look younger than her

Good old Florida thread

Is this the most autistic thread in /kc/ history?

could someone please provide a link to OP's webm? asking for a friend

>>16214
You can find the video on the youtube channel someone posted little above.

>>16161
>muh correlation doesn't equal causation

What is normalization, standardization and a bayesian score of slutty behavior seen across all census in regards to chastity? Seriously nigger these are all statistics that correlate with each other and they were posted multiple times. Also I'm not attacking all women as I have praised Japan's women for not being vapid cunts.

>muh IQ doesn't determine intelligence

Go have a baby with someone who has an IQ of 70 then, or even better a Down's syndrome inflicted person. Put your money where your words are:^]

>Hurr the deviation of IQ isn't that high it's just a point

As it was proven in the thread IQ is not a linear measurement it usually has exponential effects.

>I'm not a feminist WAAAAAAAAH

Yet you continue to attack your fellow posters'chastity, continue to argue without any evidence or statistics for your claims.

>>16232
>Go have a baby with someone who has an IQ of 70 then
Reductio ad absurdum

>>21210
well this is not forum afterall..

>>21210
Liek it was yesterday. At least we gained a fine banner.

>>21211
Many great thread died ded. I think the Time Travel for one.

>>21210
The gift that keeps on giving.

>>21210
Here's how she looks like today.

>>21773
This girl is 13?

>>21775
Well, I guess now 14 or 15.

>>21773
What a manjaw.

>>21776
Yes.

>>21778
What can explain it?

>>21780
The manjaw? We should look at her parents.

>>21780
She eats raw meat everyday and her jaw is keep getting stronger.

>>21780
Germanic genes, maybe.

>>21785
Or she's a Robust Australopithecus >>21737

>>21790
Or this.

Or maybe just the angle is bad and make her jaw look big and square.

>>21792
Another pic. Perfect jaw. If I had a kid with her, I'd name him something manly. Smitty Werbenjägermanjensen.

>>21804
How old are you and where do you live in?

Every few years or so I find a girl that is completely beyond the rest in terms of good looks. Yulia Lipnitskaya (2014) Mara (2015) and Now Lella (2017).

>>21805
Mid 20s, and in the US.

Come on, man. Yulia was MUCH prettier than this project of a slut. Really no meaningful comparison IMO.

>>21818
Disagree. I don't know how Yulia looks like anymore, but I doubt that it's better than this.

OwO what's this bread about?

>>21804
>>21807
>>21808
>>21819
Stahp. That's enought. I see how my words could be misunderstood, but don't misrepresent it.
She has a manjaw. Now post her parents.

>>21820
Pedoposter posted a webm with some kid celeb/e-celeb, taken from her yt channel. Then spiraled out to women are whores. You can read the thread but all the media on Endchan was lost during the migration of the server and with it the images of this thread too. It's just the same IQ and whoring statistics usually posted everywhere tho, so yeah.

Plot twist:
Because Endchan is duckduckgo searchable accidentally we found out this was the first hit for a while when one duckduckwent "Krautchan". So we maded a banner out of it, if you're lucky you can see the screenshot of the search result in the banner (or just go to the banner thread here: >>17660).

This is the original webm in the OP before a bunch of the files got deleted.

>>21819
Well, we disagree then. anyway it's irrelevant how Yulia looks today because your comparison was to 2014 Yulia

>>21824
>br
So where are the bunda pics?

>>21828
>So where are the bunda pics?
Not in this thread. Bring your degeneracy to other boards, preferably on other chans, pedo.

>>21824
When I was twelve I would be fucking kidding myself thinking I could get with these girls and wow them with my lack of performance.
In my mid-late teens I could impress them because I was older and attractive.
In my twenties I started to feel that looking at a girl that young was inappropriate but I wasn't "that" old and it was probably natural to want to look and it would go away as I got older.
I am now in my early thirties and while I cannot deny these girls are attractive, when I look at them all I feel is old and sad that my time has passed.

I feel like the centaur, raw animals instincts constantly in conflict with my cool reasoning. How can I want to fuck but not want to fuck at the same time? Would I be happier as Genghis Kahn or Mohammed, simply raping everything I like the look of or would I be happier becoming a eunuch and moving far away into the mountains to never to look upon a female again? Strange world.

>>22046
Depending on the grill same age guy has decent chance. If they are in same school maybe even class, and probably live near to each other. Even if grill 9/10.

Well, that's life. Frankly it's not a thing to be sad about.

>>22051
But maybe its actually interesting.
15 might seem to be a good pussy but they mostly are useless as a partner on a long run. Then one could say who needs a relationship with them, one ride and say goodbye. But then it's a fine way to set her on the road others bitching about in this thread above. If she starts out with such experience she'll most likely to be railroaded to grow up to be a ho, especially if she has daddy issues as lot of grills these days.
So one might see it he is only responsible for his own self, but actually we are living in a community and we are responsible for it and the others sharing that community.

>>22052
Wow, very deep. I need to think on this. One question, would viewing yourself and the world as a community change the way people view sex and experience sexual urges? It's sounding a little like that book, brave new world.

>>22064
Well this might fit better in a politics or philosophy thread but I also have other thoughts to continue the previous so, here we go.
The world isn't a community. Can be one? Or can we make it one? I dunno, maybe in the future, making and keeping a nation as a community is hard in itself, everything above that is a new challenge. I already wrote about this in other threads previously, I suppose you are the CSS Brit and not our resident philosophy Brit. Anyway I might write about this again in a thread more fitting.
But yes people's views on sex can change. Right now and egotist, consumerist view seems to gaining ground - for a while now -, the pleasure of the individual matters and partners are viewed as consumer products, have one and when done with it get a new one. This actually hurts many people and cannot cope with it, they still keep continue participating it because they don't know else. And it is very bad time for communities, they are nonexistent or in the breaking down. So a new zeitgeist would change how people view sexuality, yes.

So the additional thoughts for this: >>22052
So one can decide not to pick that particular flower (for whatever reasons) but then there will be other who will do. Damns sure will. Maybe a dude of her age who is the most clueless about everything, or a little bit older one, 18+, 20+ who believes himself to be the center of the universe and fountain the knowledge. Will her life turn out better? Would be better if someone would pick her who now has a little bit more wisdom about himself, others and the world? But then most people couldn't form a healthy thought by themselves not even when they are 60, just regurgitating banalities and parroting misconceptions. Life experience my ass.

>>21828
>So where are the bunda pics?
Here's all I have.

>>22085
Indeed ready to breed!

>>22085
>>22086
1. Samefag.
2. Srsly? We don't need this here, it doesn't belong here, I don't want it here and probably most of us feels the same judging by this thread: >>21339 Here we expressed our opinion in this question. Even what you post isn't sexually explicit material still can potentially lead to undesired attention for the board, could raise unneeded difficulties and even could lead to real life consequences. Do you do this in purpose? Do you want to put an end of this place? Do you want to harm other posters in some way? Do you want us having complications?
If your reply is:
>hurr durr jsut use Tor
Then no, I don't want to use Tor. This an international imageboard with the feature to recognize nationality of the posters. If one doesn't want that, there's all the other boards. What are you doing here anyway if you disregard that feature? You don't really engage any discussion (I could guess the few other Torposts is you but it might not so) you just leave unwanted material here. Make your own board and upload whatever you want there but there are many others you can do that freely.

>>22089
To be honest I dont want to see anything about women at all. Bernds go went full horny or they go full thai swede. They seems to can't find balance.

Imageboards are overall terrible place to talk about women, sexual things and similar contents.

>>22093
There's truth in that. This board is fine without any broads be them any age, so we don't need /s/ threads. However I'm not sure about the discussion, there are things that can be touched. But I also see how can said discussion turn into r9k screeching.

BO needs to put "NO GIRLS PERIOD" at the top of the board.

I also agree, beyond talking about my painful need to masturbate and general sexual frustration, I have zero interest discussing women let alone sharing pictures and videos of them. I see these posts on other boards and before long dominate discussion as lonely men spiral out of control in female obsession.

Here's a piece of advice to those obsessed with getting a young virgin. Just find a woman you can bare to be around and get a baby in her. You are only getting older and uglier with each passing day, get what you can and start living.

Why embrace hornyness when you could be discussing the industrial output of the Ottoman Empire in WWI?

>>22116
>>22116
>However I'm not sure about the discussion, there are things that can be touched
It's not that bad to talk about it right now about certain things, but if we get considerable immigrants from other boards, it will be unmanagable as you said.

>>22123
>BO needs to put "NO GIRLS PERIOD" at the top of the board.
It remind me wizardchan rules about women, I see even them don't make autistic screeching as much as kohl, because of no talking about rule.

I personally don't want to see constant autistic screeching so I get to read a few interesting blogposts about no gf or similar things. You can disagree with me of course.

>>22123
>I see these posts on other boards and before long dominate discussion as lonely men spiral out of control in female obsession.
I feel bad for people with that mentality, they seem like victims of the hypernormie culture we have today which dictates that a person absolutely NEEDS a sexual partner in order to be happy. In reality they would probably still be depressed even if they did actually find a gf.

>>22136
The new, soul draining state of imageboards make avarage bernd much more unhappy, compared to nogf feels.

I thought about this and my opinion for now that it's kind of a non-issue. We just continue posting what we usually do, it wasn't a problem before, isn't now and if a larger mass of new poster arrives for whatever reason we cannot do much, BO could pin a sticky with soem directions for Newbernds.

Eh I don't want to make any hard restrictions as for now.
When we last had refugee influx I did pin some directions and it was mostly okay iirc. I don't think I banned anyone then.

Today is her birthday. She turns 15.

Don't find her attractive in that pic too much head and too much teeth. Reminds me of Terry rest in peace Davis.

>>22432
I need to impregnate her so that my kids will have her jaw, and they can represent my homie Terry Davis RIP buddy

>>22431
>>22434
Wow, Terry mk2. Also, found pic.

>>22066
>Right now an egotist, consumerist view seems to gaining ground - for a while now -, the pleasure of the individual matters and partners are viewed as consumer products, have one and when done with it get a new one.
>So a new zeitgeist would change how people view sexuality, yes.

You make the point that taking the virginity of an immature youth (mentally) and discarding her is to her detriment. I assume further that you say this is not healthy for any woman. I believe the natural process for both males and females is to copulate, make children and raise those children. I'm not trying to dictate what a father should be, essentially the role is defined by the needs of the moment. However, a woman without a child to care for or a man to support her in that endeavour is an understandably miserable creature. So to use women in such a way is not only selfish but cruel. That's a very logical view of sex.

Now in contrast we get to mans basic instinct, which is reflected in the animal kingdom, more primitive cultures and in mans history. A mans instinctual drive is to pick women up left and right and fuck them, like the ram does with the sheep or really any other mammalian species. Ram1) "I want female, I fuck now." Ram2) "No, this my female, you can't have" Ram1) "Then I kill you and take all your females." In a civilised society we view this as pure savagery, not only because there would be constant killing but also because we can look at the misery of others and not want it to happen to us, we empathise with what would be our enemy. So we all agree killing and raping is bad and we are better off not doing it to each other. This however still leaves men with the basic drive to constantly fuck, regardless of how much self control he has over his actions.

Now the current situation where we have womens 'liberation' where men pick women up and put them down freely comes after generations of the church enforcing marriage, where men would be shamed for acting too instinctively. If a mans wife wouldn't have sex, he's left with either beating and raping the mother of his children or having sex elsewhere (in other cultures as another wife.) However the church seemed to merely introduce shame and force people to act instinctively in private, I believe what is public knowledge of affairs and church related sex scandals isn't even the full picture.

So in my estimation, while I agree with your ideals and can agree you may be able to force them upon people for their own good, I struggle to see how you can change the way people view sexuality.

Sorry it took so long for me to reply.

>>22431
>>22434
Looks like a trap tbh fam.

>>22437
>So to use women in such a way is not only selfish but cruel.
It's also about learning. How she starts out learning a relationship containing sexual aspect. She already has to have some knowledge about it via seeing her parents - not everything ofc - but now they time has come for her to gain knowledge on her own experience. For starters it would be important getting in a relationship which would gain her long lasting attention from a desired partner, opportunities not just to satisfy her personal needs (not just the lowest level physiological-sexual but higher ones as well) but learn she has to make an effort in order the gain affection, get to know the other and keep the relationship alive, but instead her first experiences will teach her that behaving whorish she could easily gain instant but short spanning male attention and satisfaction of sexual urges. She doesn't learn how to be a desirable partner just how to be a desirable cunt. And later when she might get in a real relationship she won't know the first thing. On occasions it might turn out all right, but more often than not won't and she will be alone again wondering where are the good guys and such.

>Now in contrast we get to mans basic instinct, which is reflected in the animal kingdom, more primitive cultures and in mans history.
There's an oversimplification here that I saw occurring other parts on the internet as well, the myth that the man's natural instinct is just sowing the seed and move on get someone else to sow into and drawing an equation with the animal kingdom as you put it. Yes some species do that, maybe bears, where the female is left alone after mating. But at other species this is not the case liek at wolves and homonidae. In their case the cycle is more complex, you yourself wrote above:
>copulate, make children and raise those children.
Or how I would put it: make the baby, see it to born and raise it until mature enough to repeat the cycle on it's own. Yes, a male can do that with several females but on the other hand humans even capable of live in a community with other families (on the more basic level with blood related ones, in a greater/extended family, gens or clan, but even with families which aren't blood related).

>men pick women up and put them down freely
The problem isn't only this, but it works in reverse, women do the same.

>the church seemed to merely introduce shame and force people to act instinctively in private
Nod really sexual behaviour is part of morality which is public matter and the church pressured people to remain moral even behind the closed door of their bedroom. Ofc enforcing is another matter, but preaching and extorting confessions then giving out punishments worked for some extent.

>I struggle to see how you can change the way people view sexuality.
It changed once with the zeitgeist, you yourself wrote:
>womens 'liberation' [...] comes after generations of the church enforcing marriage...
When the zeitgeist change the views on sexuality will change again.

>>22448
OK. First, I appreciate your clarity. Thank you for the response. In the most part I completely agree. However:
>sexual behaviour is part of morality
This is where I fail to understand. My question is, how can you explain a mans constant need to fug? Could environment have that much of an effect on who a man WANTS to fug and how often? Notice I said wants, indicating he may be able to act against his urgings if forced to. It's my understanding the constant need to fug, even with just one wife, is unchangeable instinct. Hence why monks remove themselves from women, despite their morality, because they would need to fug them.

>>22529
>Could environment have that much of an effect on who a man WANTS to fug and how often?
I think this is probably the case. Look at for example how in ancient Greece and Rome bisexuality was the norm. Also I heard about some African country before where everyone likes fat women for some reason.

>>22559
>>22559
>Look at for example how in ancient Greece and Rome bisexuality was the norm
maybe 500 years later people would think being gay was the norm due to overrepresantation.

On the most basic level the need for sex (not just men but women need it too) is the same physiological need like eating, sleeping, drinking, breathing and excretion. With the exception that we would literally die if we wouldn't satisfy those so while the latter five is about self-preservation the sex is for the preservation of the species, but beside this it's just the same in that regard that we feel the urge to satisfy the need when it arises, it isn't really a constant need. Or at least a healthy person's thoughts are not constantly revolving around sex. With stimulation the need can be aroused ofc. A good looking woman should grab the attention of a healthy man, but I can say similar to a delicious food, if you step into a kitchen where a slice of meat is fried it easily can start the saliva flow. Nothing bad about it.
How we act on these urges, how to satisfy our needs, what our behaviour is like is a different matter. Since humans aren't live their lives in absolute isolation, what we do and how we do it will have an influence on others. And here comes the morality which basically makes it easier to live together or beside each other, morality is kind of a social lubricant. Ofc certain cultures have different morals but there were always some taboos. For example - to see an extreme one - I don't think there was ever a society where killing could have been done just liek that as if was like taking a breath, such society would have fall apart very fast. Without morality they are. Fun fact: in our modern society there aren't any morals, there's no "official" source that would regulate it, and remind us what's good and bad. Even our laws don't say killing is baed mkay, just if you kill someone you have to give some years from your life, basically bartering them. Some crimes can be payed in money, they have a price. I can punch someone for 100 €. Is it bad? No, just a bit expensive. Frankly I really would buy a season ticket so I could punch others. People now are just flying on autopilot because our societies got used to it to have morals. Meanwhile we are bombarded with information that contradicts these earlier judgments.
Even if our acts isn't played in public, like - generally - sex, still will have influence on the public. Since our behaviour is part of us, we bring it within ourselves into the public. The act can be left behind closed doors, but our nature cannot. In our nature some things are instinctual, some learned unconsciously and some formed consciously (one can cultivate a habit), so our behaviour can be inherent even if it isn't genetically "coded". And ofc as you pointed out it can be based on decisions (but our decisions many times pre-decided by our nature, by our feelings, and not based on clear judgment of the facts).
So we bring our nature with us among other people and our motivations will be the same there what was behind closed doors. Only maybe our consciousness regulates our actions more. Or not.
Would you trust a man who can be bought with a cake? To take another example, eating. One would consider obesity kinda harmless to society. It's bad for that person's health sure, but does it harm me? Well... he overconsumes, and a burden on the resources. But there's more, because his urge to eat is a weakness. If he sees the source of satisfaction in danger, or one offers a way so he can satisfy his needs more easily or secure it, he could chose to act in a way that endangers others or the community itself. We could say it doesn't matter how he gobbles in the privacy in his dining room but he is the same person when he comes out there.
Temperance is a virtue. But when is it praised nowadays? Maybe in relation of an "exotic" eastern philosophy. But not so long ago the church itself propagated to the whole society.
Now I'm not sure where I'm going with this, started to ramble, maybe you find some answers in all this.

>>22578
I meant as a reply to him: >>22529

>>22578
You've exposed me to considerations I'd not thought of before. I will have to spend time in reflection on this. Thank you.

>>22578
>he could choose to act in a way that endangers others or the community itself. We could say it doesn't matter how he gobbles in the privacy in his dining room but he is the same person when he comes out there.
I'm not going to become a sex addict fixated on 13 year old girls once I get my first taste of underage pussy, someone who would then go on a violent crime spree if others were to take that away from me. What you're speaking of applies way better to hard drugs. Heroin users will for sure steal from others to fuel their habits once their own money runs out.

She's dating some swarthy BR. Fucking kill me.

>>27179
ok

Well, this still can give some discussions.

Sorry, but that was a delet.
If you wish to discuss things it's fine, read the thread and add your opinion.

I made this thread back when I was 22. I'm 25 now.

>>31926
And now she's babushka, living alone with dozens of cats and knee hanging breasts.

snapchat: oli.pozsari
instagram: Olipozsari

>>32045
Nah she still looks fine. We'll see how long this lasts.

God damn this is depressing

What was even changed on her nose?

>>43137
Looks like maybe they snipped a bit from the point of her nose. Less bulbous. Otherwise with makeup they can manipulate the light so their features look different. Plus filters applied to photos matter too.

>>43137
Now you can post her on >>>/rapport/.

Bam. Problem solved.
Made me remember I have to make a hat for Ecuador or Columbia.

>>51562
Happy Birthday, Bernd!
I see you moved on...

>>51562
>>51562
>>51563
>I see you moved on...

He still creepy though